5,000 national guard troops will be there just in case anyone tries anything. Trump being like a nuke, you have to spend an incredible amount of manpower just for day to day normalcy.
I can imagine they have tanks and fighter jets on call too.
In the Roman days at the beginning of electoral senates, the politicians did not need much if any protection. By the end they were wasting crazy amounts of productivity on protection. History repeats itself.
01-09-2017, 09:35 AM
jacky4566
Also remember that Pierre Trudeau would openly walk in the park and talk with his constituents, anyone could just walk up to him. Minimal security and certainly no army.
01-09-2017, 09:43 AM
sexualbanana
Re: Trump inaguration.
Quote:
Originally posted by ZenOps
In the Roman days at the beginning of electoral senates, the politicians did not need much if any protection. By the end they were wasting crazy amounts of productivity on protection. History repeats itself.
Usually because they were the ones plotting the assassinations of their respective Caesars/Augusti
01-09-2017, 09:52 AM
J-hop
hard to compare roman times to now. It's a whole different ball game when you have weapons that can kill someone from blocks away with the squeeze of a finger.
As much as I dislike Trump I don't wish him to be assassinated or feel that would have anything but catastrophic effects on democracy in the US. You can't just go shoot a politician who gets in just because you don't like them. If I were american I would support the cost of the added security.
01-09-2017, 10:05 AM
Tik-Tok
I think the added security is necessary, regardless of who won. I think the bigger danger is from his fellow Republicans though.
01-09-2017, 10:10 AM
Nufy
They will be dressed in street clothes to make it seem like everyone wants to be there...
01-09-2017, 10:10 AM
01RedDX
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01-09-2017, 10:15 AM
DonJuan
Quote:
Originally posted by 01RedDX
... having Pence serve as acting president.
This is actually scarier than a Trump presidency.
01-09-2017, 10:21 AM
Tik-Tok
Quote:
Originally posted by 01RedDX
True, but it's not a lethal danger, it's clause 4 of the 25th amendment. They can very easily prevent a Trump presidency by having Pence serve as acting president.
Who wants to bet it gets used in the first 90 days?
I don't think they will. The amount of shit Trump would kick in the air would be insane. They know some nutjob will take him out eventually, and Pence will get right in there, with all the fear mongering they need, that comes with an assassinated president.
01-09-2017, 10:45 AM
01RedDX
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01-09-2017, 10:57 AM
ExtraSlow
North Koreans have the best hats, that is indisputable, and is my sole contribution to this thread.
01-09-2017, 01:39 PM
sexualbanana
Quote:
Originally posted by J-hop
As much as I dislike Trump I don't wish him to be assassinated or feel that would have anything but catastrophic effects on democracy in the US. You can't just go shoot a politician who gets in just because you don't like them. If I were american I would support the cost of the added security.
If we want to venture into the realm of conspiracy theories; a Republican -planned assassination attempt (successful or otherwise) would provide so much credibility to their platform.
01-09-2017, 03:19 PM
Sugarphreak
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01-09-2017, 03:22 PM
ExtraSlow
Betting thread?
01-09-2017, 03:50 PM
Disoblige
My Odds (picked out of my butthole):
Year 1: 20:1
Year 2: 15:1
Year 3: 12:1
Year 4: 10:1
None: 1:10
Wagers? :P
01-09-2017, 05:15 PM
rx7_turbo2
I think an attempt(s) on his life are almost a certainty, however I don't think they'll be successful and he'll make it to the end of his term alive.
01-09-2017, 05:19 PM
msommers
Obama and his family made it 8 years without being killed by some gun crazed KKK nutjob from the south.
Trump will be fine.
01-09-2017, 05:23 PM
killramos
^ :werd:
People have sure gotten dramatic of late...
01-09-2017, 05:25 PM
sexualbanana
Quote:
Originally posted by msommers Obama and his family made it 8 years without being killed by some gun crazed KKK nutjob from the south.
Trump will be fine.
I think (and I base this on absolutely no evidence whatsoever) there were plenty of attempts on Obama's life, but Secret Service might've kept it under wraps.
There was also that dude that climbed the fence and got pretty close (maybe even inside?) to the White House. I can't remember though if that was meant to be a protest or an attempt on his life.
01-09-2017, 05:43 PM
msommers
Quote:
Originally posted by killramos ^ :werd:
People have sure gotten dramatic of late...
No, just Chinese peeps and a sniff of potential for gambling
01-09-2017, 06:18 PM
ZenOps
Yup, betting on nutjob offing Obama would be off limits. Doesn't matter much now.
But Trump is definitely bettable simply 'cuz white. Also doable would be what year impeachment.
01-20-2017, 09:20 AM
ZenOps
Live coverage on many networks now.
01-20-2017, 09:41 AM
nismodrifter
Nothing is going to happen. Overblown hype. Have been watching CBC since early this AM just to follow this event, the Donald should be arriving soon. Crowd looks very light vs Obamas inauguration.
01-20-2017, 09:48 AM
JRSC00LUDE
All the social media tears today are making me laugh a lot so that's good. :nut:
01-20-2017, 09:54 AM
Seth1968
Just clicked on Global's live stream to see Hillary looking like she was about to pass out.
01-20-2017, 09:56 AM
Mitsu3000gt
Nothing will happen. There was much more deeply rooted hatred for Obama and he did 2 terms without issue.
I heard on the radio that secret service won't be letting him out of his car (Obama got out apparently) but who knows. I suspect he will do whatever he wants.
Also people will have to attend his inauguration for there to be a threat :rofl:
01-20-2017, 10:12 AM
killramos
^ Libtards are picketting trying to prevent people from attending.
Somehow i don't see attendance actually being an issue. Remember damn near half of Americans voted for him...
01-20-2017, 10:14 AM
Antonito
If Trump gets assassinated it'll be because he doesn't listen to secret service, or if the establishment decides to take him out. If they tell him they've decided to reroute the parade he should duck
I really hope he isn't assassinated, that would rip the country apart possibly forever
01-20-2017, 10:22 AM
Mitsu3000gt
Quote:
Originally posted by killramos ^ Libtards are picketting trying to prevent people from attending.
Somehow i don't see attendance actually being an issue. Remember damn near half of Americans voted for him...
I know I was just poking fun at all the people who publicly turned down invitations, like all the performers haha.
01-20-2017, 10:54 AM
HiTempguy1
Quote:
Originally posted by Mitsu3000gt
I know I was just poking fun at all the people who publicly turned down invitations, like all the performers haha.
They just look petty. Like how apparently a lot of "fashion designers" publicly said they wouldn't do designs for the first lady.
:rolleyes:
The libtards are a bunch of shit stains. Nothing like this was going on when Obama was elected in 2008. No protests, no riots, no molotovs and riots breaking out.
Anyone that thinks Obama was some sort of miracle to elect needs to look at the USA (and world) and see that they aren't in better places.
01-20-2017, 10:58 AM
Stuart
Quote:
Originally posted by killramos ^ Libtards are picketting trying to prevent people from attending.
Somehow i don't see attendance actually being an issue. Remember damn near half of Americans voted for him...
In reality less than 20% of Americans actually voted for him, 63 million out of the 324 million population. Voter apathy, underage population and ineligibility takes the bulk of the population out of election. The best way to phrase it would be that nearly half of voters voted for him, any extrapolation beyond that gets very dubious.
edit: I'm not trying to discount his election but rather pointing out how few people actually vote for our leaders. In Alberta the NDP got 16.7% of the total population last election and Trudeau got just under 20% federally.
01-20-2017, 11:12 AM
Kloubek
So funny. When Trump speaks publically, gold jumps. Same held true during his speech as I type this.
I really didn't think we'd see this day. Let's see how it goes.
01-20-2017, 11:22 AM
ZenOps
A little more religious than normal? Islam go bye bye?
01-20-2017, 11:24 AM
dj_patm
Short Sighted Protectionism for the win Mr. Trump.
:barf:
I'm going to move to a self sustaining island some where. Live off Bananas and Rum.
01-20-2017, 11:26 AM
sexualbanana
Quote:
Originally posted by HiTempguy1
Its funny, because Obama did not bring the US together, he only more bitterly divided it by forcing himself on his citizens:
I think he only exposed a bunch of that underlying discrimination closer to the top.
Similar to Trump, I don't blame him for the sudden transformation into "Trump's America" where racism, bigotry and discrimination are commonplace now. American culture of the last few decades has always had that undercurrent of institutional racism and discrimination.
The only difference in Trump's case is that seeing the President-elect spouting off the way he does gives people license to think it's okay, and that's why we see so much more of it.
Both Presidents show what representation can do to a society. Where many black Americans were inspired to see a man of colour hold the highest office in the country, Trump's say-anything-and-everything persona has inspired others to do the same.
01-20-2017, 11:29 AM
A790
Did he really say anything during that speech?
He said that America is at the brink of, or has dawned on... five or six times.
It was a speech of sound bites. Applause was weak throughout.
Sad!
01-20-2017, 11:31 AM
kertejud2
Quote:
Originally posted by HiTempguy1
They just look petty. Like how apparently a lot of "fashion designers" publicly said they wouldn't do designs for the first lady.
#Triggered
01-20-2017, 11:32 AM
Mitsu3000gt
Quote:
Originally posted by HiTempguy1
They just look petty. Like how apparently a lot of "fashion designers" publicly said they wouldn't do designs for the first lady.
:rolleyes:
The libtards are a bunch of shit stains. Nothing like this was going on when Obama was elected in 2008. No protests, no riots, no molotovs and riots breaking out.
Anyone that thinks Obama was some sort of miracle to elect needs to look at the USA (and world) and see that they aren't in better places.
Isn't Obama's approval rating like double Trumps, and the highest of any president? Trump also did not get the popular vote, he just won the key states.
Anyways a debate on who was/might be a better president is pointless because it will always be divided roughly 50/50.
Trump doesn't scare me nearly as much as the people he is appointing in key positions.
Personally I liked Bill Clinton.
01-20-2017, 11:32 AM
ZenOps
Basically he said America is shit right now, and he will make it slightly less shitty by making sure that people outside the borders have it shittier.
Which is pretty much exactly what was expected, at least by what he has said previously.
Its a good start if you proclaim that everything is shit to start with, no one really gets to complain.
Does make me wonder why Canada wants to associate itself with such a shitty nation, that will only be looking after its own interests for the next four years.
01-20-2017, 11:49 AM
HiTempguy1
Quote:
Originally posted by A790 Did he really say anything during that speech?
He said that America is at the brink of, or has dawned on... five or six times.
It was a speech of sound bites. Applause was weak throughout.
People crying racism, bigotry, and discrimination does not make it so, especially in reference to human rights terms.
Humans discriminate against each other all the time, its called thinking for yourself and having an opinion. Doing so may lead you to "discriminate" against others :dunno:
But actual rights violations? No. Its not an epidemic as some (the left) would like to make it seem. Does it happen? Sure, it happens to EVERYONE.
01-20-2017, 12:17 PM
Xtrema
Quote:
Originally posted by A790 Did he really say anything during that speech?
He said that America is at the brink of, or has dawned on... five or six times.
It was a speech of sound bites. Applause was weak throughout.
They just look petty. Like how apparently a lot of "fashion designers" publicly said they wouldn't do designs for the first lady.
:rolleyes:
The libtards are a bunch of shit stains. Nothing like this was going on when Obama was elected in 2008. No protests, no riots, no molotovs and riots breaking out.
Trump's brand is very negative and divisive. So I don't blame businesses (entertainment is a business) do not want ties with that.
Protests are also fall out from that divisiveness. I'm sure if it were Geb Bush, it would be less opposition.
01-20-2017, 12:31 PM
HiTempguy1
Quote:
Originally posted by Xtrema
Trump's brand is very negative and divisive.
Obama's has been the past 4 years as well :dunno: Those that don't see that have blinders on. BLM has been the worst thing to come about for rights in general in years, and he supported them. Pitting social/economic classes against each other, pitting black people against police.
Always nice to see the left protest, cry and go home. :rofl: :thumbsup:
01-20-2017, 01:28 PM
OTown
Quote:
Originally posted by HiTempguy1
Obama's has been the past 4 years as well :dunno: Those that don't see that have blinders on. BLM has been the worst thing to come about for rights in general in years, and he supported them. Pitting social/economic classes against each other, pitting black people against police.
Completely agree. I liked Obama but that was so poorly dealt with on his part.
01-20-2017, 01:53 PM
Gestalt
Obama is the typical liberal. Say nice things, do the opposite. The middle east is not better now than under Bush. Tried to provoke Russia at every step. Lied about supporting ISIS in Syria. Didn't close Guantanamo. Commutes Manning who talked about Bush lies, no such luck with Snowden who exposes Obama's massive surveillance. Passed a health care law that punishes people for not being customers (forces them into a market), but does nothing to stop the costs rising. He failed, 100% at everything he did. Made Trump possible. I fell for some of it, but standing back and looking at results, cant help bu conclude he was a failure.
Trump speaks bluntly, no rosey picture to lie about. Ugly truth. But its truth.
01-20-2017, 02:19 PM
msommers
01-20-2017, 02:21 PM
Mitsu3000gt
Quote:
Originally posted by Gestalt
Trump speaks bluntly, no rosey picture to lie about. Ugly truth. But its truth.
Truths like how people shouldn't vaccinate their kids?
01-20-2017, 02:34 PM
ercchry
01-20-2017, 02:37 PM
A790
I hope that Trump performs well. I don't care for him personally, but I do care that he does a good job.
Let's see what he does. His turn, now.
01-20-2017, 02:41 PM
HiTempguy1
Quote:
Originally posted by Mitsu3000gt
Truths like how people shouldn't vaccinate their kids?
He didn't say that :dunno:
And while if there is one thing I am completely behind, its vaccines, even CNN had to actually report what really went on:
Damn, it was like all the women were ready to rip off my head and spit on my neck. Or was I reading that wrong.
01-20-2017, 03:34 PM
A790
Quote:
Originally posted by ZenOps Or was I reading that wrong.
... this might be a recurring theme for you.
01-20-2017, 03:40 PM
rx7_turbo2
Just finished watching the speech, I see the sniffing is still an issue :poosie:
01-20-2017, 03:57 PM
mr2mike
Quote:
Originally posted by jacky4566 Also remember that Pierre Trudeau would openly walk in the park and talk with his constituents, anyone could just walk up to him. Minimal security and certainly no army.
Clearly, you need a history lesson. Canada invoked a War Measures Act under his reign. Wasn't all roses and flowers.
In all fairness, context seems relevant in that case. I've read 85% of Canadians supported it at the time, and were impressed frenchy Trudeau was willing to stomp out the FLQ separatists the way he did.
01-20-2017, 04:06 PM
ZenOps
Quote:
Originally posted by A790
... this might be a recurring theme for you.
Heh. Seriously though, it was bad - and I've been doing my own grocery shopping for a decade now.
01-20-2017, 04:07 PM
A790
Quote:
Originally posted by ZenOps
Heh. Seriously though, it was bad - and I've been doing my own grocery shopping for a decade now.
lol you left the door open, had to walk through it... :)
I have felt no disdain from the ladies in my life today, though I haven't been grocery shopping in a while.
"Like everything else about him, Trump's speech was indeed a break from established tradition, and nowhere was this more obvious than in the selection of words that had never appeared previously in any US inaugural address._ Some of them: bleed, carnage, depletion, disrepair, flush, Islamic, ripped, sad, rusted, sprawl, stealing, stolen, subsidized, tombstones, trapped, trillions, unstoppable."
01-20-2017, 06:14 PM
Xtrema
Quote:
Originally posted by HiTempguy1
Obama's has been the past 4 years as well :dunno: Those that don't see that have blinders on. BLM has been the worst thing to come about for rights in general in years, and he supported them. Pitting social/economic classes against each other, pitting black people against police.
All Obama's doing.
Obama's 2nd term is basically the doing of Republicans.
Obama reached across and compromises on a lot in the 1st term in hope of cooperation and progress, he scratched Republicans back and got nothing back. That's why he uses executive orders instead to get it done.
I'm not defending Obama but he is progressive and saved US and people who invested in US from the worst recession in decades.
I would also say to Trump hater that wait and see. As long as he can be reign in like Reagan, it shouldn't be that bad.
Originally posted by Xtrema
As long as he can be reign in like Reagan, it shouldn't be that bad.
Speaking of which, with a personality like Trumps, how do you know when dementia starts kicking in?
01-20-2017, 07:08 PM
Type_S1
Quote:
Originally posted by HiTempguy1
Obama's has been the past 4 years as well :dunno: Those that don't see that have blinders on. BLM has been the worst thing to come about for rights in general in years, and he supported them. Pitting social/economic classes against each other, pitting black people against police.
All Obama's doing.
But in other news :rofl: Bill staring at Ivanka
:rofl:
I couldn't agree more. Obama should go down as one of the worst presidents in history but the leftist media and activists are singing him praise that people forget he has been utterly useless. He skyrocketed debt, brought back race wars to the US instead of healing them, forced through a broken health care system that had no chance of working, screwed the energy industry and Canada under the fake guise of "enviromentalism" when really he was just protecting the investments of his strong supporters (ex. Buffet), did nothing to combat the extemism happening thoughout the middle east...he has made it worse, antagonized Russia over and over and over, the list goes on and on and on. I can honestly say the only good thing I think he did with his very social agenda was legalize gay marriage.
01-20-2017, 07:45 PM
Xtrema
Quote:
Originally posted by Tik-Tok
Speaking of which, with a personality like Trumps, how do you know when dementia starts kicking in?
When he starts to sound like Obama. :rofl:
01-20-2017, 08:07 PM
GingeRRRBeef
Quote:
Originally posted by Type_S1
I couldn't agree more. Obama should go down as one of the worst presidents in history but the leftist media and activists are singing him praise that people forget he has been utterly useless. He skyrocketed debt, brought back race wars to the US instead of healing them, forced through a broken health care system that had no chance of working, screwed the energy industry and Canada under the fake guise of "enviromentalism" when really he was just protecting the investments of his strong supporters (ex. Buffet), did nothing to combat the extemism happening thoughout the middle east...he has made it worse, antagonized Russia over and over and over, the list goes on and on and on. I can honestly say the only good thing I think he did with his very social agenda was legalize gay marriage.
You're a special kind of stupid
01-20-2017, 08:59 PM
msommers
Quote:
Originally posted by Xtrema
When he starts to sound like Obama. :rofl:
No bipolar :D
01-21-2017, 09:56 AM
FixedGear
Quote:
Originally posted by Type_S1
I couldn't agree more. Obama should go down as one of the worst presidents in history but the leftist media and activists are singing him praise that people forget he has been utterly useless. He skyrocketed debt, brought back race wars to the US instead of healing them, forced through a broken health care system that had no chance of working, screwed the energy industry and Canada under the fake guise of "enviromentalism" when really he was just protecting the investments of his strong supporters (ex. Buffet), did nothing to combat the extemism happening thoughout the middle east...he has made it worse, antagonized Russia over and over and over, the list goes on and on and on. I can honestly say the only good thing I think he did with his very social agenda was legalize gay marriage.
You clearly have no idea how US govt works.
01-21-2017, 11:09 AM
HiTempguy1
Quote:
Originally posted by Xtrema
Obama's 2nd term is basically the doing of Republicans.
No its not. Obama's 2nd term was his own doing. Typical progressive, "if we aren't enacting any changes, THINGS ARE AWFUL!!! WE'RE NOT MOVING FORWARD, EVEN THOUGH THAT MIGHT NOT BE A GOOD DIRECTION"
FFS.
In other news, 2 million people out of 7 billion apparently protested something worldwide. More people worldwide probably stand in line for iphones :rofl: but the media gears are churning.
This is the EXACT sort of thing Trump was elected because of. Divisiveness. If only these people had jobs to go to instead of protesting...
01-21-2017, 12:05 PM
Tenkara Way
Quote:
Originally posted by HiTempguy1
In other news, 2 million people out of 7 billion apparently protested something worldwide. More people worldwide probably stand in line for iphones :rofl: but the media gears are churning.
Do you seriously equate standing in line for an $800 iPhone to worldwide violent protests over Trump? School me on how they are the same.
Few will want a four-year-old iPhone, yet Trump will be here in theory until 2021.
01-21-2017, 12:53 PM
FixedGear
Quote:
Originally posted by HiTempguy1
If only these people had jobs to go to instead of protesting...
Ironic coming from a guy who spends all day ever day arguing and fighting with people on beyond... :rofl:
01-21-2017, 12:55 PM
A790
Quote:
Originally posted by FixedGear
Ironic coming from a guy who spends all day ever day arguing and fighting with people on beyond... :rofl:
Once his rally season starts up he'll be too busy to be posting :)
01-21-2017, 04:12 PM
rx7_turbo2
I'm not sure I understand exactly what all the protesting is about :dunno:
I've asked that of a few people. "It's about making Trump aware". That or some form of it seems to be answer. I think at this point it's safe to say he's aware, he just doesn't give a fuck about it.
01-21-2017, 04:28 PM
Gestalt
They dont know what they are protesting either. Was Ubering and Drove some hippies to Calgary's gathering, they said it was becsuse Trump said bad things about women. Need to keep my 5 star rating, so I just played nice.
But its not sexist voting for a corrupt woman, just because she's a woman. :rofl:
01-21-2017, 06:41 PM
FraserB
Quote:
Originally posted by rx7_turbo2 I'm not sure I understand exactly what all the protesting is about :dunno:
I've asked that of a few people. "It's about making Trump aware". That or some form of it seems to be answer. I think at this point it's safe to say he's aware, he just doesn't give a fuck about it.
Yeah, I seriously doubt Trump or anyone in the US cares about a few tiny protests in Canada or anywhere else in the world.
On another, unsurprising note, the Montreal protesters vandalized a bunch of stuff during their brief protest.:rofl:
01-21-2017, 08:51 PM
Tik-Tok
I'm sure most of you have already seen this on Reddit FP, but holy smokes, this is going to be a facepalming 'x' years.
^cause republican's are too busy working to stand around in a field all day on a Friday :rofl:
01-21-2017, 08:57 PM
Sugarphreak
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01-21-2017, 09:08 PM
Tik-Tok
Quote:
Originally posted by ercchry ^cause republican's are too busy working to stand around in a field all day on a Friday :rofl:
I thought they were all out of work, and waiting for Trump to move 'der jerbs' back to 'merica?
01-21-2017, 09:37 PM
googe
I am very confused about the womens rights protests. An anti-trump protest would at least make sense, but what does he have to do with women's rights? Which women's rights is he attacking?
01-21-2017, 10:12 PM
Type_S1
Quote:
Originally posted by FixedGear
You clearly have no idea how US govt works.
Please do tell. :rolleyes:
Did you take poli-Sci in university to make yourself an expert?