still no links to the prelims??

check out http://www.mmatko.com

Originally posted by JRSC00LUDE
The best part was that pussy Starnes calling people on to go fight in the parking lot after the match. My god, a 9 foot tall vagina would be less of a pussy than him.

If he really did that then it really goes to show how classy of a guy he is. That fight will forever haunt him. Hopefully GSP stays focused and keeps the belt for awhile.

awesome thanks man

this is the statement from Starnes

In my opinion, it was inappropriate to make public statements regarding my character and my future and so on the way that he has, especially without having the courage and the respect to call me up and speak with me personally,” Starnes said. “All of these comments come from a man that has never had a fight in his entire life who claims to be the ultimate authority on fighting and courage. I couldn’t be happier than to be released from the most oppressive contract I’ve ever been under in my life…. Dana White wouldn’t stand and trade with a guy [like Quarry] who had an 80 or 90 percent knockout ratio with injuries like I had Saturday night. He wouldn’t cross the street for $10,000. I don’t have anything to prove to anybody. I’m not about to stand there and get smashed to pieces. After I knew my foot was broken, I was trying to back up and work off the jab and keep moving so I didn’t get knocked out.

^booooooo, I agree with the Dana White comment, but I disagree with him not wanting to get smashed to pieces... There are tons of fighters who perfrom well when not even 100%, hell there's probably a selcet few that fight at 100%

Randy vs Gonzaga, fractured arm
Franklin vs The Crow, fractured right hand
Shamrock vs Le, busted arm
Griffin vs Rua, torn knee

Vera vs. Sylvia broken hand
BJ vs. Hughes 2 broken ribs
Franklin vs. Tanner broken hand

Its a shit ass excuse, he wanted out and now hes gone

fuck em, its old news.

Dana white does talk some pretty big game for a guy whos a former tai bo instructor.

Originally posted by Wildcat


fuck em, its old news.

Dana white does talk some pretty big game for a guy whos a former tai bo instructor.

no no, boxercise

^better then hip-hop abs any day.....haha

Cro cop signed to fight Lebanner in June

Goodnight CroCop

Originally posted by ecstasy_civic
Cro cop signed to fight Lebanner in June

Goodnight CroCop

for kickboxing or mma?

MMA


Edit: UFC 85 on Spike,
Hughes vs. Alves
Bisping vs. Leben
@ufc 85

that will be a good fight then, i think he has a chance in a MMA fight.

Its gonna be a slugfest, they dont like each other and neither have any type of ground game whatsoever, cant wait.

Just announced, HDnet to host the Dream OWGP

Go Alvarez

^^^ daymm!!

Crocop just has to learn the kneebar- game over

85 on Spike? Sweet, I hope so. Watching Leben is f'ing great. Hughes on the comeback trail, awesome.

UFC 85: Hughes vs. Alves
Date: Jun 07, 2008
Location: London, England
Venue: O2 Arena
Broadcast: Pay-Per-View (Spike in NA?)

MAIN CARD (TELEVISED)

* Thiago Alves vs. Matt Hughes
* Michael Bisping vs. Chris Leben
* Marcus Davis vs. Mike Swick
* Rashad Evans vs. James Irvin
* Brandon Vera vs. Fabricio Werdum

PRELIMINARY CARD (NOT TELEVISED)

* Martin Kampmann vs. Jorge Rivera
* Thiago Tavares vs. Matt Wiman
* Thales Leites vs. Nate Marquardt
* Luiz Cane vs. Jason Lambert
* Roan Carneiro vs. Ryo Chonan
* Jess Liaudin vs. Paul Taylor
* Antoni Hardonk vs. Neil Wain

Good read.

More money than meets the eye in the UFC
By Kevin Iole, Yahoo! Sports

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news;_y...o&type=lgns

One of my passions in life is technology. I’m obsessed with gizmos and gadgets and am all but in love with my iPhone.

A friend who knows about my obsession had a computer he wanted to sell on eBay and asked me what I felt it was worth. He went to a Web site that showed an estimated street value, one I felt was considerably too high.

He argued that his asking price was justified because this web site was made up of experts and they agreed with him.

True, I said, but something is only worth what someone else will pay for it. And when we went to eBay and looked at completed listings for a computer with specs similar to his, he was shocked. People were only paying about half of what he thought he could get.

And that same analogy is true when it comes to fighter compensation. There is a lot of debate in the mixed martial arts media over what the UFC pays its fighters. It’s easy to take the stance that the fighters deserve more pay.

Of course they do. Getting punched in the face or kicked in the head is about as difficult a profession as one could choose. You only get paid when you actually compete, meaning an injury in training — by your or by your opponent — means you’ve worked two months for free.

So fighters deserve as much as they can get. I have always and will always advocate for the athletes in this sport.

But, when Kalib Starnes split ways with the UFC last week, he called his deal with the UFC an oppressive contract. He complained about his pay.

Clearly, the top UFC fighters don’t make nearly the amount that the top boxers make. But there is an incorrect perception that the other UFC fighters are being underpaid compared to boxers of the same level as well as fighters in the mixed martial arts community.

So I called the Nevada Athletic Commission and got the payment verification sheets for the last two major boxing shows (Bernard Hopkins-Joe Calzaghe on April 19 and Manny Pacquiao-Juan Manuel Marquez on March 15) as well as for the last major UFC show in the state, UFC 81 on Feb. 2.

According to state records, Hopkins and Calzaghe were each paid $3 million for their work. The next highest-paid fighter on that card was Audley Harrison, who made $20,000. There were nine fighters who made $5,000 or less, including two men, Marcos Mendias and Jermell Charlo, who made but $1,500.

Pacquiao made $3 million and Marquez $1 million for their epic rematch, but there were five fighters of the 14 on that show who made $3,500 or less.

At the UFC show, the lowest base pay for any of the 18 fighters on the card was the $4,000 that Kyle Bradley made.

The UFC also paid out $60,000 bonuses that night for knockout of the night, submission of the night and fight of the night. Plus, most of the fighters had bonuses for winning, so the opportunity was there for them to double their pay, which was not for the boxers.

And several agents, speaking on the condition of anonymity, have said the UFC occasionally pays its fighters bonuses it chooses not to announce to the public. These bonuses apparently go to fighters who perform superbly in a big fight.

Welterweight champion Georges St. Pierre reportedly received a $500,000 bonus and a Hummer when he knocked out Matt Hughes at UFC 65 in Sacramento, Calif.

Additionally, fighting in the UFC makes an athlete significantly more attractive to a sponsor. Frank Mir made $85,000 for the logos he wore into the cage for his fight with Brock Lesnar that night. Had he been fighting in another organization, there’s zero chance he would have earned half that in sponsorship money and he likely wouldn’t have gotten 20 percent as much.

So Mir that night earned a base pay of $40,000, a win bonus of another $40,000, a submission of the night bonus of $60,000 and then hauled in $85,000 in sponsorship dollars.

He’s not going to be able to retire after that bout, but bringing in $225,000 for one night’s work isn’t bad at any time, especially in this economy. A fighter like Chuck Liddell is making around $6 million a year between his salary and his sponsorships and was making at least $9 million little more than a year ago. He was getting $75,000 a month from Xyience and received $1 million for just two weekends of promoting the movie, “300.”

“The UFC will pay you if you perform,” said fighter agent Dean Albrecht, Mir’s agent. “It’s like in the NFL. They’re not going to rip up your contract after one great game, but if you perform over a period of time, they’ll pay you and pay you extremely well. In the UFC, if you go out and fight and put on a great show, believe me, they pay extremely well and they can make some of these kids rich.”

Albrecht said another of his clients, Joe Lauzon, earned $8,000 for his bout with Kenny Florian earlier this month on Ultimate Fight Night 13. He would have gotten an $8,000 bonus had he won. Albrecht conceded the pay was low, but it was mitigated by a $20,000 fight of the night bonus and $52,000 in sponsorship money Albrecht negotiated.

He said if Lauzon had been fighting in a regional promotion, he would have made $2,000 to show, gotten $2,000 had he won and may have picked up another $500 in sponsorship. Even in the best case scenario, then, he would have made less than $5,000.

The IFL is bleeding money and likely won’t last past its next show. Elite XC in its most recent SEC report also conceded it may not have the funds to last the rest of the year. If it’s not able to pull at least a 2.5 rating on CBS for its May 31 show, it may be in jeopardy of failing.

The UFC, on the other hand, continues to thrive. It will provide a place for the fighters to sell their wares long into the future. There is no other North American-based promotion that can say that now other than the UFC.

So while the UFC should bump up the salaries of the fighters up and down the cards, given the rising merchandise sales, gate receipts and pay-per-view revenues, you also have to remember that they’re the only ones who are thriving and can pay consistently. It’s a two-way street.

Nice find. True enough, it's good that the fighters have a stable job and work for a stable company rather than one that's in financial troubles and could go belly up anytime. No doubt White is greasy but I wonder who Starnes thinks will pay him more than what the ufc thought he was worth.