NDP trying to unionize engineers

[Seth1968]

Originally posted by JRSC00LUDE



As ustual, that guy has absolutely no idea what he's talking about. He makes shit up, ignores anything that counters his opinion (no matter how factual) and avoids being challenged by deflection and misdirection.

He doesn't have a fucking clue. He's the smartest person he knows though so I guess that's worth something?

Trudeau and Gestalt have the exact same persona. That is, a young deer in headlights.

Gestalt ignores any rational rebuttal to his claims. There's many examples of that, but mine is the teachers thread.

Trudeau has the tenacity to answer a rebuttal, but it goes like this:

AH, this government, AH, is committed to, AH, Bombardier, and diversity, AH, and diversity.

What a fucked up so called Democracy we have. Quebec has all the perks that Albertans don't have, but our kids pay for it.

Separation NOW!

[zhao]

Originally posted by JRSC00LUDE



As usual, that guy has absolutely no idea what he's talking about. He makes shit up, ignores anything that counters his opinion (no matter how factual) and avoids being challenged by deflection and misdirection.

He doesn't have a fucking clue. He's the smartest person he knows though so I guess that's worth something?

Yup.

He posts like he's a 3rd or 4th year university student. He probably knows 3 tradesmen, 3 office workers, 3 educated people, was told a few things by 3 successful people, etc, and has formed all his opinions based on very limited exposure to each topic.

He acts like everything is fresh, new, etc, because he hasn't been around long enough to see all his ideas are old, and have been either disproven, or viewed as no better or no worse than a lot of other arguments on that topic.

He's the guy that when management says they are introducing some new fresh awesome plan that's going to revolutionize the company and make everyone rich buys 100% into it, because he has no clue the same recycled idea has been sold as fresh 5 years ago, 10 years ago, 15 years ago, etc.

All that is fine, if he was actually learning from his mistakes..... but he's also a giant broken record. He's polishing the same turd arguments over and over, never realizing you can't polish a turd.

[Gestalt]

Originally posted by JRSC00LUDE



As usual, that guy has absolutely no idea what he's talking about. He makes shit up, ignores anything that counters his opinion (no matter how factual) and avoids being challenged by deflection and misdirection.

He doesn't have a fucking clue. He's the smartest person he knows though so I guess that's worth something?

I'm not very School smart, bit am good with my hands, and good at problem solving. That's why I'm a mechanic.

My wife is far smarter than me. I have no problem with it. I'm used to it. But you guys pretending this regulation change is the end of the world and the work of satanists are some serious drugs.

So if I'm clueless, God help you here.
Keep making stuff up, it's a fun ride between oil changes.

[ZenOps]

Meh, I took rocks for jocks. I don't know that anyone really needs power of signature or a union to say "dig here".

[Seth1968]

Originally posted by ZenOps
I don't know that anyone really needs power of signature or a union to say "dig here".

They shouldn't, but here we are.

[Type_S1]

Originally posted by Gestalt


I'm not very School smart, bit am good with my hands, and good at problem solving. That's why I'm a mechanic.

My wife is far smarter than me. I have no problem with it. I'm used to it. But you guys pretending this regulation change is the end of the world and the work of satanists are some serious drugs.

So if I'm clueless, God help you here.
Keep making stuff up, it's a fun ride between oil changes.

With no education you try to discuss complex financial/economics/social topics...almost like if someone came into your shop with no mechanical experience and told you how to change a timing belt. Man you are a joke....

[Seth1968]

Originally posted by Gestalt


I'm not very School smart, bit am good with my hands, and good at problem solving. That's why I'm a mechanic.

My wife is far smarter than me. I have no problem with it. I'm used to it. But you guys pretending this regulation change is the end of the world and the work of satanists are some serious drugs.

So if I'm clueless, God help you here.
Keep making stuff up, it's a fun ride between oil changes.

Troll, or someone who needs a slap

[Gestalt]

Originally posted by Type_S1


With no education you try to discuss complex financial/economics/social topics...almost like if someone came into your shop with no mechanical experience and told you how to change a timing belt. Man you are a joke....

Im sorry, I though everyone here was an engineer, not an economist or political scientist.

[rx7_turbo2]

Originally posted by Gestalt
Im sorry, I though everyone here was an engineer, not an economist or political scientist.

You "though" wrong.

[ZenOps]

Political science seems strange to me. I mean, you can't really teach good policy can you?

All they can really teach you are things like spin, how to get elected regardless of what you believe in, and the stupid amount of paperwork you have to fill in to get a cup of water at the watercooler.

[Feruk]

Originally posted by Gestalt
Engineers arent as critical for strike as doctors. No one will die if engineers strike. Work might stop, but that's the point. And no one is forcing anyone to do anything, rather fundamental rights are being restored.

An engineer's duty to public safety has nothing to do with going on strike... It's got everything to do with making sure the bridge you drive on doesn't collapse or the natural gas pipeline in your back yard doesn't explode.

[ExtraSlow]

Originally posted by Feruk

An engineer's duty to public safety has nothing to do with going on strike... It's got everything to do with making sure the bridge you drive on doesn't collapse or the natural gas pipeline in your back yard doesn't explode.

Or that the petroleum reserve numbers that determine the value of your investments (and your RRSP, Pension etc) are accurate.

People overlook that one, but it's one of the most critical things that has potential for huge abuses, and is critical for and effective economy.

[ickyflex]

Originally posted by Gestalt


I'm not very School smart, bit am good with my hands, and good at problem solving. That's why I'm a mechanic.

My wife is far smarter than me. I have no problem with it. I'm used to it. But you guys pretending this regulation change is the end of the world and the work of satanists are some serious drugs.

So if I'm clueless, God help you here.
Keep making stuff up, it's a fun ride between oil changes.

Not Smart...explains everything

[Gestalt]

And that has what to do with Union? I would thin your only leg to stand on at being "forced" into a union is life threatening situations if they go on strike.

Otherwise, no difference, probably better pay, and more benefits, lift the whole industry, even non union.

[rx7_turbo2]

Originally posted by Gestalt
I would thin your only leg to stand on at being "forced"

Well that clears that up

[g-m]

Originally posted by Gestalt
And that has what to do with Union? I would thin your only leg to stand on at being "forced" into a union is life threatening situations if they go on strike.

Otherwise, no difference, probably better pay, and more benefits, lift the whole industry, even non union.

I'll negotiate my own pay thank you very much.

[Gestalt]

Originally posted by g-m
I'll negotiate my own pay thank you very much.

That's what I said.

But you undertsand as an indivuidual, your bargaining power is limited. there's strength in numbers obviously.

[rx7_turbo2]

Originally posted by Gestalt


That's what I said.

But you undertsand as an indivuidual, your bargaining power is limited. there's strength in numbers obviously.

Anything look a bit off about "indivuidual"?
You've got this man, a spelling mistake free post is in your future I can feel it.

[g-m]

Originally posted by Gestalt




That's what I said.

But you undertsand as an indivuidual, your bargaining power is limited. there's strength in numbers obviously.

so all those people behind the numbers are equal? They all do the same quality of work, at the same speed? They all write and communicate equally well? They all have the same industry contacts and networks? They are all equally intelligent?

[Type_S1]

Originally posted by g-m
so all those people behind the numbers are equal? They all do the same quality of work, at the same speed? They all write and communicate equally well? They all have the same industry contacts and networks? They are all equally intelligent?

This guy wouldn't understand the vast difference in office worker quality or the reason why 2 guys with the same years experience can make $100,000 difference in salary. He likely has always worked a $/hour gig and felt the "big man" was taking advantage of the poor workers.