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The CTR "paint job" at the car show looked very much like a wrap to me, but you couldn't get close enough to verify.


Originally posted by Disoblige
Well, at least this would be one of the rare times that the production model looks like the "prototype", whether for better or worse.



Its true. I'll never understand why auto makers bring these absurd "prototypes" that never in a million years would a production car look anything like. Waste of space at the show IMHO.

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The CTR "paint job" at the car show looked very much like a wrap to me, but you couldn't get close enough to verify.



Honda rep said it was a wrap, not an official paint colour/from factory.

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Am I the only one that think it looks sweet? lol.

Engine bay is nice looking.... Nice slim design with fake carbon fiber and classic red cover.




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Im excited for this car. Not buying one and I think my Golf R is a better car but this Type R is nothing to hate on. At least Honda actually made a performance car for once. Still behind the times, I admit. But it is what it is.

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I don't mind the look, especially from certain angles, but it is definitely a little bit 'over the top'. No different than an STI or similar though really. Probably so fun to drive that you forget about the boy-racer looks pretty quick. I have a feeling they will have done some extremely impressive things despite it being FWD. Also if they are rating that motor the same way as the other Civics, it's significantly more powerful than the press materials suggest.

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Originally posted by Mitsu3000gt
I don't mind the look, especially from certain angles, but it is definitely a little bit 'over the top'. No different than an STI or similar though really. Probably so fun to drive that you forget about the boy-racer looks pretty quick. I have a feeling they will have done some extremely impressive things despite it being FWD. Also if they are rating that motor the same way as the other Civics, it's significantly more powerful than the press materials suggest.



Yeah, I agree. I like it but I don't love it. Everything is functional and unless it's x3 more msrp it's difficult to have everything in one package.

Speaking to the power level, the previous generation had 306bhp (Europe 98 Ron) and was trapping 105-106 in the quarter. That's hustling. This model should be good for another 1-2mph.

That's actually really impressive considering a mustang GT traps 110-112 and to put that into perspective, It'll likely be neck and neck at our altitude from a roll. That's retarded for a 42k fwd car.

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I actually quite like this iteration of the Type R. I just cant justify the cost. Would be nice as an AWD

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Still no news on the Si since Nov 2016, or did I miss it? I'm hoping it's around 240hp/210tq and ~$35K. Being toned down appearance-wise appeals to me a lot.

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Still no news on the Si since Nov 2016, or did I miss it? I'm hoping it's around 240hp/210tq and ~$35K. Being toned down appearance-wise appeals to me a lot.



I'm hoping the same, then I'll swap my current hatch lease for that in ~2 years.

I was thinking the same as you - if I can get more performance and avoid the "Type R" look, that might be a good compromise.

I haven't seen a shred of news except for that it will use the 1.5T and availability this summer. I don't even know if it will be available in hatch form, since the press materials show a coupe. No hatch = no interest though for me.

The Civic Sport already makes around roughly 205 HP / 218 TQ if you believe the dyno numbers, and weighs under 3000 lbs, so the Si will probably be a pretty fun little car if it adds another 20% or so power to that.

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I've only heard coupe and sedan for the Si, fortunately for me I'm a coupe man for life. Summer is in 3-6 months, I can't see them hitting that target unless again there are only like 2 per dealership that you had to pre-order at birth

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I imagine the Si will be build in North America and coupe/sedan only. Do any other markets outside of North America even get the Si? Wouldn't make sense to manufacture a North American only version overseas.

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I imagine the Si will be build in North America and coupe/sedan only. Do any other markets outside of North America even get the Si? Wouldn't make sense to manufacture a North American only version overseas.



You're right. No plans for a hatchback.

All Si's are built in Alliston I think. Proudly Canadian produced!

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how often does a car comes factory and it has enough aftermarket taste that you dont really need to tinker with anything. I think it looked better in person during the auto show last week.

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Nice little boy racer, will look good with some 'RIP Paul Walker' stickers on it

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I read today the Si is getting 192 lb/ft of torque, which is less than the base 1.5T (192lb/ft at the wheels for a non-sport on 87 octane), so either that number is similarly underrated (probably), or it won't be much of a jump from the Sport. If it only comes in Sedan/Coupe, I am secretly hoping it's not too much of a jump up from the Sport

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http://jalopnik.com/the-next-honda-...ue-f-1793635515

Interesting if they advertise power at the wheels.

Still kind of disappointed though considering these will go for $30k, the Type R at $50k.

GTI on a stage 1 flash alone is making 290whp/350lb-ft or something crazy as they come with a good factory turbo and the 2.0L displacement.

Fo'ST on the stage 1 Cobb will get 250whp/300lb-ft with its tiny turbo.

Both FoST and GTI put down ~270wtq stock.

Fiesta ST says Hi as well...advertised 201hp/220lb-ft (1.6T)

Cobalt SS turbo...260lb-ft, Speed3...280lb-ft, SRT4...265lb-ft

Elantra Sport, Veloster Turbo, Forte5 Turbo: 195lb-ft (that 1.6T they use)

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When you compare cars you have to go stock for stock. all your non-sense is completely irrelevant.

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When you compare cars you have to go stock for stock. all your non-sense is completely irrelevant.


lol I only put the modified GTI/FoST numbers because those are the only two that really interest me if paying 30k for a turbo FWD compact type car, good to know the out the box potential even if it's meaningless to most people. Maybe stir up some discussion on a car enthusiast forum.

Everyone knows these cars are going to get modified given the demographic of people buying them, and easy aftermarket access/availability. Maybe not right away, as some will want to keep their warranty.

Stock VS Stock GTI and FoST are putting down at least 270wtq, which is advertised twist for the FoST, slightly above advertised for the GTI.

But looking at what a junkyard Honda D15/D16 on boost can do, I don't doubt a Honda with small displacement and "Earth Dreams". An EX-T Touring I drove was very nice, very refined. Better than some current model BMW's I've driven especially comparing the $ spent more just for status symbol.

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