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Why don't people realize that in most cases, every city council vote is equal? Nenshi has veto power if there's a tie, but stop worrying SO much about the figure head and research your alderman too.

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The thinking was that bikers would go south into the U of C, but the west end of the U of C is a mess so no one goes that way. Not even cars go on the west side of the U of C because of all the construction.

Also all the richy-rich faculty live south of the U of C.

That road is so quiet that the city removed the lights on the overpass.



Ok so that is about 10 bikes that may choose that route so who else was this planned for

I love how the medians are so big that if you're driving a truck you have to hug the edge of the lane so you don't hit them. There is about 3 inches of clearance if you drive an f150 centered in the lane, any movement off centre and you'll hit the median.

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Ok so that is about 10 bikes that may choose that route so who else was this planned for

I love how the medians are so big that if you're driving a truck you have to hug the edge of the lane so you don't hit them. There is about 3 inches of clearance if you drive an f150 centered in the lane, any movement off centre and you'll hit the median.



Each of the NB and SB lanes is at least 10 feet wide - now I agree that the Northland situation is a ridiculous mess but if you have an F150 that is 9'6" wide, then you've done some pretty serious modifications to it.

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Each of the NB and SB lanes is at least 10 feet wide - now I agree that the Northland situation is a ridiculous mess but if you have an F150 that is 9'6" wide, then you've done some pretty serious modifications to it.



Nope right lane is not full width where the medians are. Go take a look the medians are covered in black marks

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Ok so that is about 10 bikes that may choose that route so who else was this planned for

I love how the medians are so big that if you're driving a truck you have to hug the edge of the lane so you don't hit them. There is about 3 inches of clearance if you drive an f150 centered in the lane, any movement off centre and you'll hit the median.

Not saying it made any sense, just outlining what the motive was.

Honest truth is that all this bike infrastructure has done nothing to increase ridership. I guess it's made existing cyclists happier but putting in anything would've helped with that.

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Not saying it made any sense, just outlining what the motive was.

Honest truth is that all this bike infrastructure has done nothing to increase ridership. I guess it's made existing cyclists happier but putting in anything would've helped with that.



Yea I agree with you was poking fun at druh's logic

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As I've stated before, Kerr the delusional bike dude has financial benefit pushing bike infrastructure. I'm sure he even doesn't believe all the BS he spews but if he started being reasonable he would start losing $$.

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Nope right lane is not full width where the medians are. Go take a look the medians are covered in black marks



Happened to be up there at Northland today and lo and behold, both through lanes in both directions are at least 10 feet wide. Scuff marks are most likely from CTS buses getting in and out of the far right lanes where their stops are but even they fit in one lane. Any F150's I saw easily fit in the lanes and had more than 3 inches on either side.

To this end, there's a Google Streetview picture from 2015 with what appears to be a 2005 or so Ford Ranger in it - that truck is around 67 inches wide (body width)and there's plenty of lane left for it. A 2016 Ford F150 s 97 inches wide with the mirrors extended which would still leave 23 inches of room in a 10 foot lane and the Google Streetview picture appears to show that both lanes are pretty much the same width.

I'd like to see the Ford F150 that only has 3 inches of room on either side in those lanes.

Now I'm not trying to be a dick but be realistic when making a statement. Is Northland Drive fucked up, hell ya. Could it be worse, hell ya, look at 12th Avenue - that is truly painful.

Whether we like it or not, bike lanes are here to stay but better implementation of them has to be done and where they are is important as well. Northland is the wrong place and 12th Avenue was implemented wrong.

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As I've stated before, Kerr the delusional bike dude has financial benefit pushing bike infrastructure. I'm sure he even doesn't believe all the BS he spews but if he started being reasonable he would start losing $$.

What's his financial gain? I missed that.

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What's his financial gain? I missed that.



He will not disclose his financial interest but rest assured there is ine. I've called him out before on beyond and he went silent afterwards. He either works for the COC directly on the project or is high up in the retard bike advocacy group making $$ while pushing this stuff.

No logical and sane person would put so much effort in to defending something that has been so flawed with poor decisions made at every turn. It's his job plain and simple.

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He will not disclose his financial interest but rest assured there is ine.



No, there really isn't.

I've called him out before on beyond and he went silent afterwards.



You're not going to accept me saying I don't have anything to do with the city or bike organizations, so why would I continue?

He either works for the COC directly on the project or is high up in the retard bike advocacy group making $$ while pushing this stuff.



How much money do you think there is in this stuff?

No logical and sane person would put so much effort in to defending something that has been so flawed with poor decisions made at every turn. It's his job plain and simple.



Yet it would seem weird that my position is not in line with the bike groups, who dislike Northland because it still has car-first turn priority and wasn't segregated from buses, and didn't remove entrances to the mall creating more situations for 'interactions' with cars.

Bike Calgary and the other bike advocacy groups do want these lanes to be better...by making things purposefully worse for cars. Not a byproduct, not part of mode-sharing, but that a necessary aspect of improving bicycle infrastructure is to inhibit the mobility of cars as much as possible, especially in a case like Northland (they have priority turn signals, MADNESS!).

So when you have people talking about "flawless" systems they're the delusional ones, because nobody has the same idea of what flawless is, and most of the time the ideas conflict with each other.

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So multiple news stories out this morning regarding a report that recommended that the mayor's salary be rolled back 6% - no big deal as I see it but I am amused that the news articles all point to Nenshi being affected when in fact, he may not even be our mayor come this fall election. Such dumb news reporting.

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A CBC news article on some of the 2017 mayor hopefuls - interesting that the CBC did not bother to include Larry Heather in their list, link to news article.

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For your continued entertainment???



http://www.larryforcalgary.ca/

A shipper/receiver and audio editor by profession - well, he'd probably be quite a treat to work with.

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