Energy Efficiency Alberta

[Seth1968]

Originally posted by Hallowed_point
But... "it's free" ,,,,,

Yes it's free. The Gubments goin pay for it.

Seriously, I can't wait to see the final tally and how this all works out.

[ZenOps]

Save the electricity and sell it to Ontario for 20 pennies per kwh.

Win win.

[dj_rice]

They are pushing for this hard. I see it all over the news, on the radio

[FraserB]

Originally posted by dj_rice
They are pushing for this hard. I see it all over the news, on the radio

Probably hoping no one catches on that they are taking a few hundred million from carbon tax revenues and sending it to an Ontario company when there are tons of people in Alberta who would love the work.

[bigbadboss101]

Will sign up in a bit and see how it goes! I have old light bulbs for sale if you guys want them. $5 each

[rage2]

Originally posted by SKR

First thing I thought of when I read this.

Nobody's touching my high flow showerheads haha.

[bigbadboss101]

Too bad they are not offering to replace for free the toilets and older windows.
Save me $30 grand!

[Seth1968]

Low flow showers suck. If it's a requirement for the deal, I'll be re-installing my "real shower" shower heads as soon as they leave.

Does anyone know if they'll replace CFLs with LEDs? Reason being, CFL sucks too, so I'll replace those with incandescents to get LED. And they better be warm LEDs

[ExtraSlow]

I'll let you dudes test this out before I sign up. Don't want anyone fucking with my toilets or showers.

[ZenOps]

Peasants, I take full baths

[Seth1968]

Originally posted by ZenOps
Peasants, I take full baths

Followed by a long shower rinse

[Swank]

Originally posted by rage2

First thing I thought of when I read this.

Nobody's touching my high flow showerheads haha.

Did you get your hands on a Commando 450

[71/454]

Originally posted by rx7_turbo2

How is this program "helping the environment"?

Which part, the one where led lights use less electricity or the part where a programmable thermostat uses less natural gas?

[rage2]

Originally posted by Swank
Did you get your hands on a Commando 450

I was planning on getting something overseas but turns out our pipes doesn't flow that much water anyways and you can't fix the correction without replacing the pipes. Only pipes that go straight to bathtubs have true high flow. Not sure if this is by code or what, maybe someone with plumbing experience can explain better. Maybe it's not even the pipes but the faucet control itself, but I didn't want to rip open my walls to find out.

I ended up measuring flow rate for all of the tubs and showers with the head removed and timing how long it takes to fill a large bucket. Low flow showerheads just made things even worse, and I ended up removing the restrictor on some Waterpiks that also had a high pressure mode and it was able to match the maximum flow of the pipe with the most pressure possible but in a smaller spray pattern.

If anyone knows how to get more flow through existing pipes feel free to share. The bathtub has 2.5x higher flow rate than my showers, would love to get that flow rate to the showers haha.

[Gestalt]

No one reads?

Uses google?

The program will cost $21 million and is being funded by the carbon tax.

[Darkane]

Originally posted by rage2

I was planning on getting something overseas but turns out our pipes doesn't flow that much water anyways and you can't fix the correction without replacing the pipes. Only pipes that go straight to bathtubs have true high flow. Not sure if this is by code or what, maybe someone with plumbing experience can explain better. Maybe it's not even the pipes but the faucet control itself, but I didn't want to rip open my walls to find out.

I ended up measuring flow rate for all of the tubs and showers with the head removed and timing how long it takes to fill a large bucket. Low flow showerheads just made things even worse, and I ended up removing the restrictor on some Waterpiks that also had a high pressure mode and it was able to match the maximum flow of the pipe with the most pressure possible but in a smaller spray pattern.

If anyone knows how to get more flow through existing pipes feel free to share. The bathtub has 2.5x higher flow rate than my showers, would love to get that flow rate to the showers haha.

Technically, you can tie-in to your bath piping and if you're up for some quick demo/Reno run the line to a rain shower head up the wall, across the roof. I've thought about that.

[bjstare]

Originally posted by 71/454


Which part, the one where led lights use less electricity or the part where a programmable thermostat uses less natural gas?

It's a moot point. The environment doesn't need to be helped in AB - we have some of the cleanest air on the planet. Moreover, 100% of Alberta could stop using all electricity and gas -period-, and it wouldn't make a difference - our total carbon contributions don't even amount to a rounding error on the global scale.

[HiTempguy1]

Originally posted by rage2

I was planning on getting something overseas but turns out our pipes doesn't flow that much water anyways and you can't fix the correction without replacing the pipes. Only pipes that go straight to bathtubs have true high flow. Not sure if this is by code or what, maybe someone with plumbing experience can explain better. Maybe it's not even the pipes but the faucet control itself, but I didn't want to rip open my walls to find out.

I ended up measuring flow rate for all of the tubs and showers with the head removed and timing how long it takes to fill a large bucket. Low flow showerheads just made things even worse, and I ended up removing the restrictor on some Waterpiks that also had a high pressure mode and it was able to match the maximum flow of the pipe with the most pressure possible but in a smaller spray pattern.

If anyone knows how to get more flow through existing pipes feel free to share. The bathtub has 2.5x higher flow rate than my showers, would love to get that flow rate to the showers haha.

Bitch to the city about low pressure in the mains. You might be hooped though, sometimes it is what it is in certain neighbourhoods. Its amazing how many large leaks there are that go unnoticed, for instance, they cause sizeable pressure drops. I once buried a city truck up to its axle in a grassy median to do a fire hydrant inspection, the whole area was turning into a sinkhole it was leaking so much water. Would never have found it otherwise!

You aren't going to be able to do much in the house besides have as few restrictions as possible between your water header and the outlet point. Of course, if the house is built/drywalled, not much you can do.

Might want to see if your water header is undersized, it happens a lot and people don't realize that. Should be readily accessible in the basement. For tubs and showers, I think the actual control valves themselves have restrictors on them/built into them nowadays. Will be a bitch of a time to replace.

Source: I worked water distribution in Red Deer for years, as well as did plumbing before that time. Oh those were the days

[Gestalt]

Originally posted by cjblair


It's a moot point. The environment doesn't need to be helped in AB - we have some of the cleanest air on the planet. Moreover, 100% of Alberta could stop using all electricity and gas -period-, and it wouldn't make a difference - our total carbon contributions don't even amount to a rounding error on the global scale.

It's a closed system? There's a giant dome over Alberta? Are you including impact from our exported oil?

It's part of a shift in thinking that will spread.

They just announced a exciting solar credit or rebate that we are keen to look into since we need a roof.

Also, hoping to we get an electric car rebate. similar to Ontario.

It's a fundamental shift in human energy production and use, probably the biggest change of our lives.

I already ordered 5 Canadian Solar solar panels for the garage since the one roof faces south. Their suggestion is a Meter upgrade so we can sell back to Enmax, and grid tied micro inverters. That's my first 3 months of paychecks from Uber

Want to jump on this, because once the get enough micro producers selling to the grid, they will cap and grandfather, like some areas in the US.

[Seth1968]

Originally posted by Gestalt
No one reads?

Uses google?

The program will cost $21 million and is being funded by the carbon tax.

Who the hell are you referring to, as there was never any confusion about the cost or how it will be funded. In fact, some posters (including myself) sarcastically pointed out that "free-government paid" means taxpayer funded.