Autocross in Calgary! Aug. 7, 2016 - SASC YYC Event #1

[Joe-G]

***08/05/16 Update: Registration will be capped at 75 participants. A limit on registration has been introduced to ensure that we have a smooth, efficient, and safe day. No walk-up registration. More runs = everybody wins =)***.

Read Me!
We thank everyone for the overwhelming amount of registrations, but we will not be accepting any late, walk-up registrations. All registrations must be done through msreg.com, prior to the deadline.

Due to the popularity of this event, we have noticed an increased number of newcomers and novices. If you are new to the sport, please do not hesitate to ask around, or pm me about any specifics. We encourage ride-alongs throughout the day, and are always willing to lend a hand with navigating through the track, sea of cones, etc.

In order to make this event possible, autocross requires equal effort from all participants.

The gist of a successful autocross operation involves the following:

- All participants are required to work, and marshal immediately after completing all runs of their group - This involves marshaling for the next group, running to pick up cones, calling in cones, and watching vehicles for deviation of course, and other penalties.
- Efficient marshal turnover is a must. Please do not lounge around in the pits or leave early if it is your turn to marshal.
- In order to maximize the number of runs, everyone must be willing to put in the same amount of effort. Efficient turnovers = more runs for everyone =).


http://sascsolo.com/admin_images/SascLogo4.png

I. Registration Link:
http://msreg.com/YYC1

Autocross is finally back in Calgary! The SASC is holding the first YYC event of 2016 this upcoming Sunday, August 7th. Registration has now been made public. Please refer to the registration link for more information.

Please: No unnecessary revving of engines, driving, or stunting in or around the venue. Any participant/spectator not exhibiting good behaviour both on site and off site will be asked to leave and banned from future events.

II. Site Restrictions:

As motorsports enthusiasts, it is the goal of the club to not only host motorsports events, but to demonstrate that motorsports activities can be conducted in a responsible, sustainable manner that benefits the surrounding community, and participants everyday driving skills and behaviour. With this in mind, participants and attendees are reminded to be respectful of others, property and municipal ordinances, both on and off the event site. Racing, burning out, stunting, exceeding posted speed limits will not be tolerated.

No alcohol or drugs are allowed on site.

Washroom facilities: Port-a-potties will be available on site for participant use.

All garbage must be removed from site. Our goal is to leave the venue in the same, if not better condition than we found it.

Any participant not exhibiting good behaviour both on site and off site will be asked to leave and banned from future events.

All spectators on-site must also sign the waiver.

III. YYC- Budget Airport Sound Policy:

In an effort to minimize our impact on surrounding residences, the SASC will strictly enforce a 93 dB sound limit at all YYC-Budget location events. Any vehicle exceeding 93 dB, measured at 50 feet, or showing excessive tire squealing, will be required to stop running.

If you know your car is too loud, please do not register until the proper modifications are made. We cannot stress this enough!

*****All participants were given an opportunity to evaluate their vehicle’s sound level at the Fort Macleod event on the weekend of April 23rd/24th, 2016. After this first event weekend, any vehicle in excess of the sound limit will not be allowed to run until adequate sound modifications are made.*****










This is the first event at the old Park 'n Jet lot (YYC) in NE Calgary just on the north side of the Calgary International Airport (CAI - YYC). This event is not in the Club Championship series. Please check the SASC forum for more details. www.forums.sascsolo.com

Location: 2020 Airport Trail NE, Calgary, Alberta (Access to venue via 22 St NE)

Event Registration

All participants are encouraged to pre-register and pay online to help speed registration on event morning.

Members: $40 (includes WCMA/ASN/SCCA affiliated members). $50 for non-members.

NOTE: On-site payment is $50 members and $60 non-members (cash).

Membership cards are required and will be checked at registration.

A valid driver’s licence is required to participate and will be checked at registration.

An ASN SoloSport Vehicle Technical Self-Declaration form is required at registration…

http://www.asncanada.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/ASN_SoloSport_Tech_Self_Insp_Form.pdf

Event Schedule

07:00 am Site opens, course setup, registration

8:30 am-9:15 (approx) course open for walking

09:30 am Mandatory Driver's Meeting

10:00 am Competition runs start time

05:00 (approx.) - competition over, course tear down

06:00 pm Site closes

Note: No unnecessary revving of engines or driving on site or in the paddock area prior to 10:00 am.

Site Restrictions

As motorsports enthusiasts, it is the goal of the club to not only host motorsports events, but to demonstrate that motorsports activities can be conducted in a responsible, sustainable manner that benefits the surrounding community, and participants everyday driving skills and behaviour. With this in mind, participants and attendees are reminded to be respectful of others, property and municipal ordinances, both on and off the event site. Racing, burning out, stunting, exceeding posted speed limits will not be tolerated.

No alcohol or drugs are allowed on site.

Washroom facilities: Port-a-potties will be available on site for participant use.

All garbage must be removed from site. Our goal is to leave the venue in the same, if not better condition than we found it.

Any participant not exhibiting good behaviour both on site and off site will be asked to leave and banned from future events.

YYC- Budget Airport Sound Policy

In an effort to minimize our impact on surrounding residences, the SASC will strictly enforce a 93 dB sound limit at all YYC-Budget location events. Any vehicle exceeding 93 dB, measured at 50 feet, or showing excessive tire squealing, will be required to stop running. No exceptions!

*****All participants were given an opportunity to evaluate their vehicle’s sound level at the Fort Macleod event on the weekend of April 23rd/24th, 2016. After this first event weekend, any vehicle in excess of the sound limit will not be allowed to run until adequate sound modifications are made.*****

Rules and Regulations Links

http://www.asncanada.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/ASN-2016-Autoslalom-Regulations.pdf

http://cdn.growassets.net/user_files/scca/downloads/000/013/596/2016-3-24_Solo_Rules_reduced.pdf?1458855434

[zieg]

VERY glad to see this! I've a family commitment in the evening but am hoping to race in the morning. Hoping for many more events!

[Joe-G]

Originally posted by zieg
VERY glad to see this! I've a family commitment in the evening but am hoping to race in the morning. Hoping for many more events!

I'll see you there! What will you be driving?

I'm pretty excited as well... :burnout:

[LilDrunkenSmurf]

Hype. I'd bring the mini out, but I'm helping my sister and her fiance move that day. I hope to see this continue.

[zieg]

Originally posted by Joe-G


I'll see you there! What will you be driving?

I'm pretty excited as well... :burnout:

Blue RX8. Sucks that I'll have to leave early, but I really want to show support/numbers for Calgary events. Any idea when the next one might be?

[A2VR6]

Man... it's been such a long time since we had a venue in town, super excited for this. See you all there.

[Twin_Cam_Turbo]

Damn don't think my car will be ready as I'm still waiting on my wheels to show up for my new tires...

[Sugarphreak]

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[94boosted]

Not going to wear out Hoosiers for a non-championship event but very excited for this venue. Thanks A2VR6 for letting me co-drive your car :D

[KRyn]

Looking forward to not having to drive 3 hours round trip.

[reijo]

Note that the lot that we are running on is about 1000' x 440 ' ... so there is no looping/doubling back of the course and large sweepers ala SCCA National-style courses are possible on this lot. Parking, grid and pits are SEPARATE from the lot the course will be set up on. For autox, this is a large lot. :)

For Sunday, we will be running a slightly modified version of the 2016 Packwood (Seattle) National Tour course. This is what we have only dreamed of ... 'nuff said.

See you Sunday!

Reijo

[NRGie]

Hey Reijo,

Never been to an auto cross event, I was looking at the safety checklist and it asks for a safety harness, but also has a box for seat belts. if my seat belts are fine but I have no harness can I still sign up? Also is this event beginner friendly?

Thanks

[JDC™]

This sounds great, I am definitely going to try to make it out.

[reijo]

Originally posted by NRGie
Hey Reijo,

Never been to an auto cross event, I was looking at the safety checklist and it asks for a safety harness, but also has a box for seat belts. if my seat belts are fine but I have no harness can I still sign up? Also is this event beginner friendly?

Thanks

That box is for cars that have safety harnesses ... typcally full-on race cars (plus some others). If you have a street car with no such thing just mark N/A (not applcable).

There are a number of new people signed up and we will assign someone to work with you for a course walk and understanding some of the basics of how these events run.

The course is designed so you will not typically lose your way (recommend riding along with someone first to see it from inside a car ... maybe looks quite different and have an experienced person riding along for some tips etc. It is QUITE different than driving on the street and quite challenging at first so get all the hints you can and don't feel discouraged if you stink! :) ). We will help you as much as is possible in a day. This is really not an easy sport but that is also one of the aspects of the sport that makes it so endearing: It is challenging! It is one thing to get around the course but another to do it truly fast!

Note that the Calgary area has some very, very fast autoxers so if you have not done this before keep this in mind and do not be discouraged. There are people with very substantial experience internationally in Calgary ... with very good results from down south.

But, you know what that means? That you can learn a LOT locally about true high performance driving! It is an excellent, excellent opportunity!

Reijo

[EF9 Sedan]

Will there be other events scheduled in Calgary? I'm out of town this weekend :(

[reijo]

Yes. August 20 is the next one. We have not opened up registration for it yet although most of the pieces are together etc.

Stay tuned.

R

[rage2]

Sweet. Might have to come out. 7am, 6hrs of sleep, should be good to go haha.

Reijo, is this being run like a practice session? Meaning lots of runs?

[Darkane]

I'm in for aug 20th. I'm just worried about the Db.

A stock gt350R did 96 Db at Laguna seca during motortrend testing last week. Mine isn't the R but should be right around 92-94 Db. Hmm.

[reijo]

It will be like a regular autox for the most part but results are not official so I suppose like a practice.

However the big deal is that the lot is big (like the north lot in Red Deer in 2005 or before) and therefore without the course looping, we can send out cars more rapidly and still have a lengthy course ... and THAT is what translates into more runs. We can minimize the overlap.

SCCA Nationals sends out cars 20 seconds apart ... religiously. A single course can have 300 competitors and all have 3 runs each .... plus reruns means over 900 runs per course. That is attainable if we put our minds to it with a course like this.

Therefore with 50 entries, if we run just as efficiently, 900/50 = 18 runs each. Theoretically. :)

Reijo

[Sugarphreak]

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[LUV2REV]

Can one come out to watch ?

[reijo]

96db according to what standards is the question at laguna.

We measure according to the SCCA solo stds ... e.g. at 50' perpendicular to the track from the car in a place where we can expect it to be at full throttle. Don't think you can do that on a track.

R

[reijo]

Originally posted by LUV2REV
Can one come out to watch ?

Yes, just sign the general waiver and you can enter the area and even go for ride-alongs with others (you need a helmet to ride along, of course).

R

[A2VR6]

Originally posted by Sugarphreak


50 entries so far

Although if there is no track overlap, so we could be sending cars out at a higher frequency

My guess is 8 runs for the day?


EDIT: Just saw your reply

Wow, that would be pretty sweet if we can get 18 in!

Yeah I suppose at 20 seconds apart you could get a ton of cars through

We had about 3 cars on the course at a given time at Packwood so I dont see why we couldnt do that here if it's a similar course.

[Joe-G]

Originally posted by A2VR6


We had about 3 cars on the course at a given time at Packwood so I dont see why we couldnt do that here if it's a similar course.

Must have been a pretty efficient setup! I wonder if we could pull that off here? I think we would really have to enforce quick turnovers, and really emphasize the importance of marshal duties if that were to happen. ..

It might be a little tough with the number of 1st timers, rookies, etc?

[cream]

Signed up and looking forward to it!

Is it always a 60 second course? Looking to cross that 60sec barrier without errors haha.

[reijo]

Sure, we can do big style events here. Why not? Everyone is human and if we put our minds to it ....

Biggest factor is getting cars out quickly ... 20 seconds apart ... and when working people have to spread out and be near cones that get hit regularly (e.g. 2nd and 3rd cones of a slalom for instance) so they can replace them quickly (plus have spare cones handy to replace ones that are dragged away) such that we get few reruns. Working the course takes technique which we have not really focused on locally...

Quick change-overs on the fly are important also ... event should not stop for long no matter what.

That is how it can be done and is done at the big US events ... It is a known "thing".

Maybe we should experiment a bit with this on Sunday?

Want to get more runs? Work with us! :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX-hAJV3iNM

[Sprockett]

Originally posted by A2VR6


We had about 3 cars on the course at a given time at Packwood so I dont see why we couldnt do that here if it's a similar course.

Because of the amount of new people would be my warning. Not just newbies driving and but also working. At 20 secs apart things happen fast for the workers. If there are a lot of inexperienced people on course and working, I would personally be extremely cautious sending more then 2 cars on course at once.

Someone gets lost, someone spins, someone plows many many cones...not only could it be dangerous for workers and drivers that are inexperienced but the potential for flags and re-runs could end up eating into any potential gains in efficiency.

[94boosted]

*** We're going to cap registration at 75 max and not allow any walkups (un-registered) people Sunday morning ***

It's our first time running at this venue and we want to make sure everything goes off without a hitch.

[reijo]

Originally posted by Sprockett


Because of the amount of new people would be my warning. Not just newbies driving and but also working. At 20 secs apart things happen fast for the workers. If there are a lot of inexperienced people on course and working, I would personally be extremely cautious sending more then 2 cars on course at once.

Someone gets lost, someone spins, someone plows many many cones...not only could it be dangerous for workers and drivers that are inexperienced but the potential for flags and re-runs could end up eating into any potential gains in efficiency.

Back in the big lot days at Red Deer, we used to send cars out between 25-30 seconds no problem. 30 seconds is a lot of time ... you can walk for cones ... which is what I want to get away from if we are going to run any serious events here. (my hope).

Oh, and talked with Tom so we will be coming out with worker station assignments so newbs will work with experienced people ... 6 work stations ... sign up beforehand. Thanks, Tom! And, a novice coordinator for the day.

R

[rage2]

Originally posted by 94boosted
*** We're going to cap registration at 75 max and not allow any walkups (un-registered) people Sunday morning ***

It's our first time running at this venue and we want to make sure everything goes off without a hitch.
Fucker! I'm on a flight and my credit card is on the overhead and everyone is sleeping lol.

Edit - registered. Even got my old car number. Wonder how much rust I've got... Should be fun!

[Sugarphreak]

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[rage2]

Lexus isn't the ideal AutoX car. Doesn't change direction too well. I'd bring it if I wanted to do a drift show. Honestly, I want to see if I could still drive at a competitive level and the GLA is a well classed car for that.

[xnvy]

Nobody else in ES? Benyl coming in the wagon!! Benyl can I get a ride?!? :D

EDIT: Question also applies to Rage2 haha

[benyl]

Originally posted by rage2
Lexus isn't the ideal AutoX car. Doesn't change direction too well.

Pfffft. I'm bringing the F150. 6500 lbs on sport tires!

Edit: I've been outed ^ :cry:

[Sugarphreak]

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[rage2]

Originally posted by Sugarphreak
It does actually compete quite well in it's class

I don't think it has the cool factor of the Lexus though, plus I really wanted to see it go around the course!
I'll bring it next time. Hoping to be in town when it goes down. Travel has been nuts lately, I haven't even driven a car in 3 weeks lol.

The Lexus has been tweaked to the point where it's really sensitive to tire pressures and temps. Will need to figure out how to get and retain heat in those tires haha.

[94boosted]

Originally posted by rage2

Fucker! I'm on a flight and my credit card is on the overhead and everyone is sleeping lol.

Edit - registered. Even got my old car number. Wonder how much rust I've got... Should be fun!

Lol sorry, it was filling up a lot quicker than we expected.

[Sprockett]

http://www.scca.com/downloads/16768-2016-7-25-appendix-a-reduced/download

Link to classes in the rules. If you aren't sure what class register in, please take a look and even ask here. If you ready registered incorrectly, there's still time to update it. It will speed up registration.

[Sugarphreak]

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[zieg]

Alright, since we are almost at the registration cap I've decided to change my plans. I'm not going to waste a spot on myself when I have to leave halfway through anyway.

Instead, I'm going to show up with my camera and take pics. I always wish I had some action shots of myself, assuming others would too. I'm no pro, but have a decent camera, a long lens, and know what most of the buttons do. :P

Also gonna bring my gopro and external mic setup. The mic is awesome because when you put it on the back of the car there's zero wind noise, purely exhaust and tire noise.

Example:
9bMTmd86go0

Anyone wants to borrow it for a run let me know. I'm probably gonna want a ridealong though. ;)

[JDC™]

Originally posted by Sugarphreak
Sweet, I see a Focus RS signed up


I am in a class all by myself too... the lowest class too, guess I am the underdog for the event :)

Yea it will be my first time out at an event so don't expect Ken Block or anything :rofl:

[Sugarphreak]

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[Joe-G]

All 75 spots have now been filled! Thank you for your interest!

[LilDrunkenSmurf]

I thought it was limited to member's only?

[zieg]

That lasted about a day.

[xnvy]

Originally posted by LilDrunkenSmurf
I thought it was limited to member's only? I bought a membership based on that and then they opened it up :(

[94boosted]

Originally posted by xnvy
I bought a membership based on that and then they opened it up :(

Originally registration was only open to SASC members and members of other WCMA affiliated clubs, however people weren't signing up quite as quickly as we would have liked and we were beginning to worry we would take a loss renting this venue (it's not cheap). So the decision was made to open it to the public. Apologies for the troubles this caused.

As a bonus though, you do get $10 off all SASC and CSCC events as a member :thumbsup:

[georgemagana]

Originally posted by zieg
Alright, since we are almost at the registration cap I've decided to change my plans. I'm not going to waste a spot on myself when I have to leave halfway through anyway.

Instead, I'm going to show up with my camera and take pics. I always wish I had some action shots of myself, assuming others would too. I'm no pro, but have a decent camera, a long lens, and know what most of the buttons do. :P

Also gonna bring my gopro and external mic setup. The mic is awesome because when you put it on the back of the car there's zero wind noise, purely exhaust and tire noise.

Example:
9bMTmd86go0

Anyone wants to borrow it for a run let me know. I'm probably gonna want a ridealong though. ;)

I wouldn't mind borrowing the mic! :)

[reijo]

Note that registration on-site closes at 9 am sharp. They need course walks too!

First thing you should do on arrival is sign the general waiver and get checked in/on-site registration. This is necessary for everyone so we know you are in the timing/scoring computer etc.

R

[benyl]

it's a wet one.

http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd364/bwinkelm/82B924FC-92C0-4D54-98FA-86C7FF52892A_zpspkpnqir6.jpg (http://s1216.photobucket.com/user/bwinkelm/media/82B924FC-92C0-4D54-98FA-86C7FF52892A_zpspkpnqir6.jpg.html)

[rage2]

Well that was a blast. Still shaking off the cobwebs, almost spun once, and 2s slower than the other gla45.

Thanks again reijo for securing a Calgary venue! Going to try to make it out to more of these!

[JDC™]

Really great first time experience for me! Choked I had to miss the second set of runs. I'll have to come out more often as there are some very cool people to hang out with and I have lots of time to shave off my laps.

[Sugarphreak]

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[xnvy]

That was fun! Good variety of cars. A crazily built MR2 with comically wide wheels and no fender flares, Benyl in his awesome wagon, and then some NASCAR looking Camaro. If only I didn't fail so hard in the afternoon. Still did decent though.

[Sugarphreak]

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[jacky4566]

Is there any feedback from the organizers? Will this be an ongoing event now?

[Sugarphreak]

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[Joe-G]

That was fun day!

I heard of one car peeling out on the main road, probably after spectating. Heard it had a big GT wing... I recall seeing a 240sx? pull in earlier with solid aluminum GT wing risers. Assuming it was you?! :thumbsdow

[georgemagana]

It was a fun day but the decibel meter was for sure out of calibration. Seemed super strange to me they would only have 1 meter and then force people to either leave or drive at 4000 RPM based on 1 gun that is for sure not working right...

If they are going to be that strict, get at least a second gun to compare results. Decibel meter was only at like 30ft away instead of 50ft too.

Obviously, I'm not against it and also want to ensure we keep this venue no matter what but that gun was just not right.:banghead: :banghead:

[rage2]

Originally posted by Sugarphreak
I finally got around to ridding in a CLA... and I hate to admit this, but I should really stop trash talking MB, because I was shocked at how good it was. I had expected it to have a lot of body roll, and be lumpy with acceleration as power was added and then removed by the computer, all while the magic of traction control to somehow to careen it around the course. That is pretty much how my Q5 would feel if I tried to AutoX with it anyway. It wasn't anything like that though, it was direct and sharp with steering, really responsive and precise with the acceleration, and it just stayed nice and flat around the corners. If I had been blind folded an placed in the car, I would have guessed I was in a GTR or something.
If you thought the GLA45 was good, go test drive a new C63. Fucking thing felt almost as good as my old Black Series. Insane turn in, tons of grip, and no computer intervention as long as you turn off ESP. Technically, Elton was running in ESP Sport so TC was on, but his driving was way smoother than mine and probably didn't trigger any intervention. I ran with ESP off and almost spun in the afternoon. Had to save a wicked drift through the first slalom pushing just a little too hard haha.


Originally posted by georgemagana
It was a fun day but the decibel meter was for sure out of calibration. Seemed super strange to me they would only have 1 meter and then force people to either leave or drive at 4000 RPM based on 1 gun that is for sure not working right...

If they are going to be that strict, get at least a second gun to compare results. Decibel meter was only at like 30ft away instead of 50ft too.

Obviously, I'm not against it and also want to ensure we keep this venue no matter what but that gun was just not right.:banghead: :banghead:
I don't think the meter was wrong. We were on the far end of the course, and every car that failed was fucking loud. Every car that was called out for failing over the radio, we knew it would fail based on the noise level driving by the meter.

[Sprockett]

Originally posted by georgemagana
It was a fun day but the decibel meter was for sure out of calibration. Seemed super strange to me they would only have 1 meter and then force people to either leave or drive at 4000 RPM based on 1 gun that is for sure not working right...

If they are going to be that strict, get at least a second gun to compare results. Decibel meter was only at like 30ft away instead of 50ft too.

Obviously, I'm not against it and also want to ensure we keep this venue no matter what but that gun was just not right.:banghead: :banghead:

Not sure what comparison/experience you have to say so confidently that the measurement was incorrect? Do you just think the cars weren't 'loud' so therefore can't be 'illegal'? 93dB isn't that loud and that is kind of the point...Do you know what 93dB 50ft perpendicular at full load is supposed to sound like? I sure don't...

[Sugarphreak]

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[georgemagana]

Originally posted by Sugarphreak
The sound station is per SCCA standards, it is quite specific in how it is setup. I have a lot more confidence in the readings we get out there over other types of sound measurements.

It is also because we have lost countless venues over sound complaints. This is the first event in Calgary we have had in years. We really have to work hard to try and keep it. Part of that is clamping down on excessive car noise.

For sure! Like I said, this venue is excellent and we should do everything we can to keep it. I was talking to one guy on a WRX and he also said they gave him different dB reading today than the ones he got in Ft Mcleod. The venue is deadly tho.

Sprockett, not sure what your taking about lol.

[Sprockett]

Originally posted by georgemagana
... the decibel meter was for sure out of calibration.

... based on 1 gun that is for sure not working

... that gun was just not right.:banghead: :banghead:


How are you so sure the sound meter was incorrect?

[k1l4m]

I was slightly over for my first 2 runs and it seemed in line with how loud (or ricer :)) my exhaust sounds. Fort Macleod is usually quite windy so I guess that may be the case for the variation.

All in all, it was a fun day and it was nice to see a bunch of different cars today.

[Cueman]

Originally posted by georgemagana
It was a fun day but the decibel meter was for sure out of calibration. Seemed super strange to me they would only have 1 meter and then force people to either leave or drive at 4000 RPM based on 1 gun that is for sure not working right...


From my experiences working on courses, the cars that feel painful/offensive typically measure 95db or more. There were a couple cars yesterday that were definitely in that range or higher.


Originally posted by Joe-G
I heard of one car peeling out on the main road, probably after spectating. Heard it had a big GT wing... I recall seeing a 240sx? pull in earlier with solid aluminum GT wing risers. Assuming it was you?! :thumbsdow

:thumbsdow

[Sugarphreak]

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[rage2]

I think the club was pretty lenient with the setup. That one GTR blew over at least 3x in the morning and it was still running in the afternoon. I don't recall anyone blowing over in the afternoon as the mic was setup much farther from the cars.

btw Sugarphreak, didn't get a chance to talk to you later in the afternoon yesterday, I got to see one of your runs, sick car, sick driving. Too bad you weren't in the other run group, would've liked to see more of your car out there.

[Redlined_8000]

Originally posted by Sugarphreak


That isn't uncommon though, mostly because of the wind

On days when the wind is blowing away from the homes on the runway there, you can't even hear the cars running

The sound station is identical in setup, and the equipment being used is solid.

The club logs all of the sound levels so that if somebody complains, we can show them that we are being proactive. This way it isn't just our word against theirs. We have proper measuring equipment and standards, and a log to prove that we are in compliance with local sound bylaws.

The rule is if you blow over, you get a warning and you are supposed to make an alteration to your car again before you run to rectify the issue. If you blow over twice, you are done.

I think we did a pretty good job of keeping people informed on their sound levels at this event, and generally I think most know what the expectations are for the next one.

So if you hit high DB twice in a row and are "done" that means you are done for the day or done for the year or that particular car is done until you modify it??

[Sugarphreak]

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[94boosted]

In the morning we couldn't quite figure out where to set up the sound station, where it originally was there was concern that it was picking up sound from other cars on course at the same time. And where it got moved to after there was concern we were picking up ambient noise from airport trail.

Ideally I think we'll set it up somewhere in the NW corner of the lot for future events and we definitely won't be as lenient with cars that blow over.

[NoPulp]

Good to see a successful event in southern alberta. I need to make it out to an autocross event in fort macleod for pictures still this year.

Street wheelers just hosted Racewars (1/8th mile) at fort macleod airport on saturday. Really fun, but they didn't have any noise limit, I wonder if they got any complaints. A few vehicles were insanely loud and very uncomfortable to be anywhere nearby.

[Murray Peterson]

If my old S2000 exhaust was running at the event (on Gordon 's car I believe), you can use it as a check for accuracy. With the supertrap off, it blows between 82 and 86 dB, depending on the conditions and driver. Jo never got above 82 dB and I was almost always between 84 and 86 dB.

These numbers are at Packwood over quite a few years, with the SCCA official sound measuring setup.

[Darkane]

Damn that sucks about the noise. I don't want to modify a stock exhaust to be quieter!

I might have to run the course at part throttle :(.

[LilDrunkenSmurf]

Originally posted by Murray Peterson
If my old S2000 exhaust was running at the event (on Gordon 's car I believe), you can use it as a check for accuracy. With the supertrap off, it blows between 82 and 86 dB, depending on the conditions and driver. Jo never got above 82 dB and I was almost always between 84 and 86 dB.

These numbers are at Packwood over quite a few years, with the SCCA official sound measuring setup.

Gordon put the Skunk2 exhaust back on.

[georgemagana]

Originally posted by rage2
I think the club was pretty lenient with the setup. That one GTR blew over at least 3x in the morning and it was still running in the afternoon. I don't recall anyone blowing over in the afternoon as the mic was setup much farther from the cars.

btw Sugarphreak, didn't get a chance to talk to you later in the afternoon yesterday, I got to see one of your runs, sick car, sick driving. Too bad you weren't in the other run group, would've liked to see more of your car out there.

Are you that was the same GTR? I went 98dB on my 1st run and closed the valves for the rest of the day and kept it below 5000rpm and they told me I did 78dB on my 2nd run and never heard back on the afternoon.

Maybe it was the other white gtr or the black one?

[Sugarphreak]

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[georgemagana]

Originally posted by Sugarphreak

Yeah yours was fine after you closed the valves

The black one is Paul's, aside from launch control it is stock, and it runs regularly, well under the limit I might add

There was another white one in the morning that was blowing over every run, but he ended up leaving for the afternoon. I am not sure if it was because of noise or if he had another commitment though.

Ahh ok perfect! Just wanted to make sure I wasn't going over and causing future issues :)

[ExtremeSi]

This is awesome that AutoX is back in Calgary! Hopefully I can make it out one of the upcoming weekends.

[benyl]

Originally posted by Sugarphreak

Yeah yours was fine after you closed the valves

The black one is Paul's, aside from launch control it is stock, and it runs regularly, well under the limit I might add

There was another white one in the morning that was blowing over every run, but he ended up leaving for the afternoon. I am not sure if it was because of noise or if he had another commitment though.

No way that black GTR was stock.

[Sugarphreak]

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[reijo]

Originally posted by benyl


No way that black GTR was stock.

Just asked Paul and he has modified the launch control so it does not go into limp mode after 3 launches. And he has a cold air intake ... Nitto tires ... that is it. So really it is pretty much stock. :)

[Sugarphreak]

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[reijo]

Originally posted by Sugarphreak


I noticed it got faster after he modded the driver this year at the SoloPro school

Driver Mod... What is that, DM class?

haha....indeed! The most effective! Must be a good time to put in a plug for the SoloPro Schools, eh? And, yes, Paul did drive well yesterday ... think he was 10th in PAX ... in an underprepared car for SM ... grossly so. He could run Hoosier A7's in SM and knock off an easy 2 seconds right away!

[reijo]

Here is Tom Fitz's video from yesterday. Thought he did a good job!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VwYyhqzM_w

[rage2]

Great vid! Love this shot of my car:

http://i.imgur.com/vlI4Zjm.jpg

[turbojohnsrt4gt]

Is there any date for the next Calgary Auto X?

[xnvy]

I believe I saw August 20th somewhere. Hopefully someone else can confirm.

EDIT: That's a Saturday so I'm pretty sure I just made that up in my head. Not to mention the 21st has a championship event in Fort Macleod I think.

EDIT 2: Yeah, I'm right! Thanks Reijo

[reijo]

Yes, the next one at YYC is Saturday, Aug. 20 ... (because CSCC has the Sunday and we do not want the conflict to happen).

We have not opened up registration but have the executive meeting tomorrow evening so it will be tomorrow night or following day when we open it up.

Reijo

[reijo]

YYC 2 is open now for everyone.

Will start a new thread on it.

R