Does this type of dog exist?

[Mitsu3000gt]

I am wondering if this type of dog exists, or something close to it:

- hypoallergenic (or close to it)
- doesn't shed (#1 must-have)
- Isn't annoying & yappy by nature (certainly training and responsible ownership would influence that as well)
- Doesn't look like a poodle
- Not huge
- No serious, common, health problems (Maybe a mix or cross of something?)
- Easily house trained
- Generally friendly/laid back temperament

I realize that is quite the list and I am expecting to be sorely disappointed haha, but I thought I'd ask.

I thought Basenji's looked almost perfect, until I got to reading they may be hard to train, difficult off-leash, stubborn, high prey drive, etc.

Basically we want the personality of a Lab in a smaller dog that doesn't shed haha. No poodles or Bichon Frisé, I can't stand the way they look haha. Does this 'Goldilocks' breed exist?

[dirtsniffer]

wheaten terrier?

[HiTempguy1]

Doesn't shed... like at all? That'll be tough.

My sister has two bijon shih tzus, and I am allergic to dogs.

Zero problems with them allergy wise, and they hang out on me while watching TV during the family holidays and I honestly have never seen a hair from them (wikipedia indicates no shed, but requires grooming maintenance which makes sense). She does keep them pretty short (I say they look like rats with fooman choo mustaches haha).

They are the quietest small dogs I've ever seen, both of them. Winston (her older one) I didn't hear bark for years. Not easily excited, in fact, fairly laid back dogs. You can play with them a bit, they love to go outside and run around but they are no Lab. Kind of dumb, but I suppose that is part of their charm.

Honestly, I'm not the biggest dog person, but for someone who will have a dog in the house a lot and isn't super-health-freak, they are basically perfect. I've thought of getting one myself.

YMMV.

[Danaldson]

Australian Labradoodle.

Yes it technically has some poodle in it, but it doesn't have that super curly hair like poodles do.

My pup is super laid back, but fun an energetic. Doesnt yap at all. Hyperallegenic, no sheddin, house trained and pretty obedient. Super friendly to people, including babies, and all dogs.


https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5163/30200814665_0fe2d7ab54_c.jpg
https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5710/22538271994_66792fd746_c.jpg


We also used to have a wheaten terrier. Good dog, but much more aggressive than the doodle. He didn't like other dogs.

[LadyLuck]

The mexican hairless dog (Xolo) should take care of the shedding issue, hypoallergenic and is supposed to be: Protective, Alert, Calm, Cheerful, Companionable, Intelligent.

http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/images27/XoloitzcuintliXoloMexicanHairlessTepeizeuintliXoloitzcuintleRelic11MonthsOld1.jpg

[npham]

We got a Standard Schnauzer last year, and he checks off all the things you have your want list. However, they are very intelligent and require a good amount of training to control their impulse control and prey drive. I think any working class dog is going to be like this. He's high energy too, so you'd need to walk him a fair amount or give him mental exercises to tire him out.

If you were willing to move on the size thing, I'd get a Great Dane. Super chill dogs.

[lamp_shade_2000]

I just got a Miniature Schnauzer and so far she has been great. She doesn't shed, which means you do need to take them to the groomer. They are not a large dog, typically between 15-20lbs. Depending on how they are groomed, it will change their appearance quite a bit. Ours does not look like a typical Schnauzer and we get stopped all the time with people commenting on her appearance. She is a rare color being brown so that has a lot to do with it but the hair cut really changes the look.

In terms of how vocal she is, she is still a puppy at 20 weeks old but so far she is pretty quiet. She barks the odd time when she hears something outside but its rare. The main time I hear barking is when my GF leaves as she has a little bit of separation anxiety with only my GF but that is something we are working to correct.

For health issues, the main thing that is common with the breed is that they are prone to being obese. This is easily manageable with monitoring their diet and food intake. so far we have a healthy 12lb puppy that is on track to being large for her breed but still at a healthy rate. If you let your dog get obese, they can experience related health issues such as diabetes etc

She is almost fully house trained now and it was not too bad. We tried pee pads and stuff but she was more interested in playing with the pads vs using them for what they are designed for. She does like to explore with her mouth more than her eyes, ears and nose so she is a nibbler. She has gotten much better over the last couple of weeks and should be good as an adult. Lets face it all puppies will chew things.

A lot of the items on your want list can be achieved with various breeds with proper training. We did a course with cultured canines that finished up last week and it was awesome. Everyone that has seen her from start to finish can not believe how much better she is now.

The last thing I will mention is something I did not know about before we got her and that is that Schnauzers have attitude and can be stubborn. Again like most of the above, she started off pretty bad and has become a great little puppy. The only issue we have with her being stubborn now is that when we call her to come, she will sit and stare instead. Again, she is getting better but I think this is going to take more work than some of the other commands she has aced with her course.

Stay consistent and take a course and you should have a great dog. Just like kids, results are not immediate and you get what you put in.

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w180/lamp_shade_2000/20160925_160913.jpg (http://s176.photobucket.com/user/lamp_shade_2000/media/20160925_160913.jpg.html)

[RX_EVOLV]

We have a Coton de Tulear and it checks off most of the things on your list.

Pros:
- average 8-13lbs (ours is 18lb for some reason... heard some are even 20lb+).
- Does not shed
- Hypoallergic (I'm allergic to dogs and zero reaction with her)
- Very friendly - loves people, kids and other dogs
- Easy to train - It was super easy to teach her tricks. < 5 days to teach her to play dead
- Very laid back. Doesn't go crazy if she doesn't get a walk for a day or two. Very easy going.
- No known health issue.
- Big dog attitude, alot of people say they are similar to the attitude of a Gold Retriever. Definitly has a mind of her own though and very playful. they are known for their 'clownish' personality.
- Ours is very good off leash.


Cons:
- Usually the waitlist at a breeder is long as there are only like 2-3 breeders in Canada and average litter size is like 3-4. I heard one of the breeder the wait list is ~ 13 months.
- Not a cheap breed.
- Her hair is very fine and requires alot of grooming, otherwise it get matted very easily. We brush her with 2 different brushes once a day. Needs a full groom once every 2 months.
- They are known to be a little vocal, like they will talk to you. Our doesn't. She just barks when there are strangers approaching the house.

This is not our dog. Just pictures off Google Image

http://www.coton-de-tulear-care.com/images/tips-for-coton-de-tulear-coat-problems-or-coat-changes-21657126.jpg

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/5e/38/50/5e3850b93574132a636a15f5d59adeef.jpg

[RX_EVOLV]

Here's a picture of our dog

[Xtrema]

https://www.homesalive.ca/blog/dogs-that-dont-shed-23-hypoallergenic-dog-breeds/

Of which I only have experience with Shih Tzu and Bichon/Shih Tzu mix.

My Shih Tzu was all that you listed but being pure breed they tends to have hip issues. I lucked out.

The Bichon Shih Tzu mix didn't hit the your list 100% and for some reason I'm allegic to it even the mix shouldn't be. Unless seller is wrong.

[Mitsu3000gt]

Awesome replies guys, thanks. I will have to show some of these to the GF.

[ercchry]

My grandma's dog fits pretty close to your needs (except it's a shit head, not by nature... cause it was spoiled and never trained)

It's a labradoodle but the poodle part was a toy poodle so it actually looks really similar to rx evolv's dog

[jacky4566]

Pet lizard?

[Mitsu3000gt]

Originally posted by HiTempguy1
Doesn't shed... like at all? That'll be tough.

My sister has two bijon shih tzus, and I am allergic to dogs.

Zero problems with them allergy wise, and they hang out on me while watching TV during the family holidays and I honestly have never seen a hair from them (wikipedia indicates no shed, but requires grooming maintenance which makes sense). She does keep them pretty short (I say they look like rats with fooman choo mustaches haha).

They are the quietest small dogs I've ever seen, both of them. Winston (her older one) I didn't hear bark for years. Not easily excited, in fact, fairly laid back dogs. You can play with them a bit, they love to go outside and run around but they are no Lab. Kind of dumb, but I suppose that is part of their charm.

Honestly, I'm not the biggest dog person, but for someone who will have a dog in the house a lot and isn't super-health-freak, they are basically perfect. I've thought of getting one myself.

YMMV.

I am mildly allergic to dogs, and I am a clean-freak with a house full of electronics, so shedding is a no-go. I expect the odd hair, I doubt anything is truly 100% shed-free, but we definitely want something that is considered non-shedding.

[spikerS]

Originally posted by Danaldson
Australian Labradoodle.

Yes it technically has some poodle in it, but it doesn't have that super curly hair like poodles do.

My pup is super laid back, but fun an energetic. Doesnt yap at all. Hyperallegenic, no sheddin, house trained and pretty obedient. Super friendly to people, including babies, and all dogs.


https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5163/30200814665_0fe2d7ab54_c.jpg
https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5710/22538271994_66792fd746_c.jpg


We also used to have a wheaten terrier. Good dog, but much more aggressive than the doodle. He didn't like other dogs.

I was going to come here to post just this. It ticks off all your wants, and isn't what I call a useless dog.

[Mitsu3000gt]

I do quite like Labradoodles, but I think it's too big. I read they can get up to 65lbs which I think is about double what we would want maximum. Are there smaller versions of them? I was definitely thinking more in the 15-20lb range.

[ercchry]

See my post

[nissanK]

Look up Havanese. We have one and he's great, quite a little ham but training him was a breeze.

We had all the same requirements as you with the addition of great with kids.

http://i.imgur.com/acHS3KN.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/SBoSUWf.jpg

[Joel_D]

Originally posted by Mitsu3000gt
I do quite like Labradoodles, but I think it's too big. I read they can get up to 65lbs which I think is about double what we would want maximum. Are there smaller versions of them? I was definitely thinking more in the 15-20lb range.

Labradoodles come in three sizes, Small(14 to 16 inches), Medium(17 to 20inches), and Large(21 to 24 inches). I'd stay away from 1st generation doodles (Poodle + Labrador) since they can't guarantee the dog won't shed, you can either get more poodle (curly hair) or labradore (Sheds). Instead go with multi-generation doodles (Labradoodle + Labradoodle), and you'll get a truely non-shedding dog. No dog is truly hypoallergenic since all dogs still have dander, some more then others. I've met a lot of people with all variations of Doodle, and most of them are 1st generation and they all seem to shed.

Our Multi-Gen labradoodle, is six months and is very smart. She's house trained, rings a bell when she wants to go out to Potty in her small dog run. In fact, she won't go any where else, even when we go out for walks. She's fairly laid back and barely barks.

Her's our medium sized Labradoodle:
http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/o483/JDL_511/14563554_10154631808756757_6524880987009593961_n_zpshilcff8h.jpg

[Skyline_Addict]

I just got two shih tzu puppies 2 weeks ago. Have pretty well all the same criteria as you for a dog.

[spikerS]

Originally posted by Joel_D


Labradoodles come in three sizes, Small(14 to 16 inches), Medium(17 to 20inches), and Large(21 to 24 inches). I'd stay away from 1st generation doodles (Poodle + Labrador) since they can't guarantee the dog won't shed, you can either get more poodle (curly hair) or labradore (Sheds). Instead go with multi-generation doodles (Labradoodle + Labradoodle), and you'll get a truely non-shedding dog. No dog is truly hypoallergenic since all dogs still have dander, some more then others. I've met a lot of people with all variations of Doodle, and most of them are 1st generation and they all seem to shed.

Our Multi-Gen labradoodle, is six months and is very smart. She's house trained, rings a bell when she wants to go out to Potty in her small dog run. In fact, she won't go any where else, even when we go out for walks. She's fairly laid back and barely barks.

Her's our medium sized Labradoodle:
http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/o483/JDL_511/14563554_10154631808756757_6524880987009593961_n_zpshilcff8h.jpg

Can you let me know where you got yours from? Baygirl and I have been tossing the idea of a dog for awhile now. Might be something we would consider.

[heavyD]

Originally posted by Mitsu3000gt
I am wondering if this type of dog exists, or something close to it:

- hypoallergenic (or close to it)
- doesn't shed (#1 must-have)
- Isn't annoying &amp; yappy by nature (certainly training and responsible ownership would influence that as well)
- Doesn't look like a poodle
- Not huge
- No serious, common, health problems (Maybe a mix or cross of something?)
- Easily house trained
- Generally friendly/laid back temperament

I realize that is quite the list and I am expecting to be sorely disappointed haha, but I thought I'd ask.

I thought Basenji's looked almost perfect, until I got to reading they may be hard to train, difficult off-leash, stubborn, high prey drive, etc.

Basically we want the personality of a Lab in a smaller dog that doesn't shed haha. No poodles or Bichon Frisé, I can't stand the way they look haha. Does this 'Goldilocks' breed exist?

I have a Basenji and he's a great dog but it's correct they have a high prey drive and can't be left off leash as once they get the scent of something they are gone investigating. You don't get a Basenji if you want to blend in to the background as they get a lot of attention due to their unique looks as we constantly get the "what kind of dog is that?" question. My favourite part of him that you didn't list is that there's absolutely no dog odour at all as he's even cleaner than our cat (they groom themselves like cats by licking their fur coat). He can be a stinker at times as he's smart and wants what you want so if you turn your back on him he will take your TV remote and run and hide. I don't think they are for everyone or first time dog owners but if you have time an patience they are one of the more rewarding dogs to own.

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk169/ddimar/IMG_9629_zpszp5q0bji.jpg (http://s280.photobucket.com/user/ddimar/media/IMG_9629_zpszp5q0bji.jpg.html)

[403ep3]

Wife had a bichon shihtzu for almost 14 years until he passed in December. He was good with learning where to go, liked to play, would never bite no matter what and loved people and children .

Had longer hair so was pretty much non shedding. I'm allergic to cats and shedding and I had no problem with him at all. He died of cancer, but that's all that came up in the years he was alive. Might get another one in the future

[KPHMPH]

Hypo allergic toy Yorker... train it right and it will be perfect.

[jwslam]

Originally posted by jacky4566
Pet lizard?
Or, much better:
http://static3.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_small/2/25453/588275-rufus_1.jpg

[R-Audi]

Keep in mind for the non-shedding dogs, if they have a lot of hair or you let the coat grow it will require a good amount of grooming. Whether you do it yourself or pay someone.

[lasimmon]

Originally posted by heavyD


I have a Basenji and he's a great dog but it's correct they have a high prey drive and can't be left off leash as once they get the scent of something they are gone investigating. You don't get a Basenji if you want to blend in to the background as they get a lot of attention due to their unique looks as we constantly get the &quot;what kind of dog is that?&quot; question. My favourite part of him that you didn't list is that there's absolutely no dog odour at all as he's even cleaner than our cat (they groom themselves like cats by licking their fur coat). He can be a stinker at times as he's smart and wants what you want so if you turn your back on him he will take your TV remote and run and hide. I don't think they are for everyone or first time dog owners but if you have time an patience they are one of the more rewarding dogs to own.

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk169/ddimar/IMG_9629_zpszp5q0bji.jpg (http://s280.photobucket.com/user/ddimar/media/IMG_9629_zpszp5q0bji.jpg.html)

Haha your dog steals your remote? Thats awesome!

[JordanLotoski]

My Dog is part poodle part King Cavalier ....17 pounds, and meets most of your criteria.

https://s16.postimg.org/c4q6xahgl/20160424_085857.jpg

[Joel_D]

Originally posted by spikerS

Can you let me know where you got yours from? Baygirl and I have been tossing the idea of a dog for awhile now. Might be something we would consider.

we got ours from http://www.prairiedoodles.ca/, there wait list is crazy, it's like 7 or 8 months.

[ExtremeSi]

We have a Havenese too and it meets all of the criteria, I just don't know if it's smaller than you're looking for or not. Ours is about 12lbs.
Super smart, doesn't shed, great with kids/babies, rarely barks, great dog.

[Danaldson]

Originally posted by Joel_D


we got ours from http://www.prairiedoodles.ca/, there wait list is crazy, it's like 7 or 8 months.

We also got ours from Prairie doodles. :thumbsup:

[T-Dubbs]

We have had two Portuguese Water Dog's and loved them.
They are super intelligent and meet the criteria, but they need DAILY exercise, because of their energy levels.
They are very loyal. Great with kids and esp anything to do with water.
If you would like more info, feel free to PM me.

Be weary of any MUTT( any kind of doodle) usually you are not guaranteed to get what traits they advertise (non shedding, size, behavior and health)


A pure bred will guarantee the traits that you are looking for.

good luck!

[BigDL]

Originally posted by RX_EVOLV
We have a Coton de Tulear and it checks off most of the things on your list.

Pros:
- average 8-13lbs (ours is 18lb for some reason... heard some are even 20lb+).
- Does not shed
- Hypoallergic (I'm allergic to dogs and zero reaction with her)
- Very friendly - loves people, kids and other dogs
- Easy to train - It was super easy to teach her tricks. &lt; 5 days to teach her to play dead
- Very laid back. Doesn't go crazy if she doesn't get a walk for a day or two. Very easy going.
- No known health issue.
- Big dog attitude, alot of people say they are similar to the attitude of a Gold Retriever. Definitly has a mind of her own though and very playful. they are known for their 'clownish' personality.
- Ours is very good off leash.


Cons:
- Usually the waitlist at a breeder is long as there are only like 2-3 breeders in Canada and average litter size is like 3-4. I heard one of the breeder the wait list is ~ 13 months.
- Not a cheap breed.
- Her hair is very fine and requires alot of grooming, otherwise it get matted very easily. We brush her with 2 different brushes once a day. Needs a full groom once every 2 months.
- They are known to be a little vocal, like they will talk to you. Our doesn't. She just barks when there are strangers approaching the house.

This is not our dog. Just pictures off Google Image

Awesome dog, my boss has 2 of them. I known the first one since they got her as a little puppy years ago. Super friendly and for the most part pretty quite. Every time I see her she wants her belly rubbed, she would just run up to me roll onto her back and go belly rub please! I want one for myself some day.

[heavyD]

Originally posted by lasimmon


Haha your dog steals your remote? Thats awesome!

Yeah it's all fun and games until your $200 Harmony Remote gets broken. The last time he got a hold of it he bit one of the bottom corner buttons and for some reason it rendered all the buttons inoperable.:banghead:

My wife is a teacher and when she's doing stuff like report cards at the table he sneaks up and will steal a pen off the edge of the table and then run behind the couch. He loves to play the game of stealing your stuff and have you chase him. Depending on your mood this can be annoying. Basenji's aren't listed amongst the most mischievous dog breeds but ours certainly is.

[klumsy_tumbler]

^ I think that's a "Smart Dog" problem in general. They come up with the most hilarious (and sometimes annoying) ways to get out attention. Your basenji is really cute. Definitely don't see too many of those around!

As for OP's question: we had a mutt (yorkie x toy poodle) that was about 20lbs and never bothered anyone allergy-wise. Smart as a whip and very quiet and well-behaved. A lot of it comes down to training, from a behaviour perspective.

Are you set on getting a puppy, or considering adopting as well?

[Minimalist]

Originally posted by Mitsu3000gt
I am wondering if this type of dog exists, or something close to it:

- hypoallergenic (or close to it)
- doesn't shed (#1 must-have)
- Isn't annoying &amp; yappy by nature (certainly training and responsible ownership would influence that as well)
- Doesn't look like a poodle
- Not huge
- No serious, common, health problems (Maybe a mix or cross of something?)
- Easily house trained
- Generally friendly/laid back temperament



Kind of reads like a wish list for a wife.

[Mitsu3000gt]

Originally posted by Minimalist


Kind of reads like a wish list for a wife.

Haha it's true.