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SkylineAdmirer
10-24-2004, 12:37 PM
This was an actual letter sent out by the St. Mary's Church:

If Your Child is a Gothic, Reform Through the Lord!

Listed below are some warning signs to indicate if your
child may have gone astray from the Lord.

Gothic (or goth) is a very obscure and often dangerous
culture that young teenagers are prone to participating in. The gothic culture leads young, susceptible minds into an imagined world of evil,darkness, and violence. Please seek immediate attention through counselling, prayer,
and parental guidance to rid your child of Satan's temptations if five or more of the following are applicable to your child:

-Frequently wears black clothing.

-Wears band and/or rock t-shirts.

-Wears excessive black eye makeup, lipstick or nailpolish.

-Wears any odd, silver jewelry or symbols. Some of these include:
reversed crosses, pentagrams, pentacles, ankhs or various
other
Satanic
worshipping symbols.

-Shows an interest in piercings or tattoos.

-Listens to gothic or any other anti-social genres of
music. (Marilyn Manson claims to be the anti-Christ, and publicly speaks
against the Lord. Please discard any such albums IMMEDIATELY.)

-Associates with other people that dress, act or speak
eccentrically.

-Shows a declining interest in wholesome activities, such
as: the Bible, prayer, church or sports.

-Shows an increasing interest in death, vampires, magic,
the occult, witchcraft or anything else that involves Satan.

-Takes drugs.

-Drinks alcohol.

-Is suicidal and/or depressed.

-Cuts, burns or partakes in any other method of self-mutilation. (This is a Satanic ritual that uses pain to detract from the light of God and
His love. Please seek immediate attention for this at your local mental health center.)

-Complains of boredom.

-Sleeps too excessively or too little.

-Is excessively awake during the night.

-Dislikes sunlight or any other form of light. (This pertains to
vampires promoting the idea that His light is of no use.)

-Demands an unusual amount of privacy.

-Spends large amounts of time alone.

-Requests time alone and quietness. (This is so that your chid may speak to evil sprits through meditation.)

-Insists on spending time with friends while unaccompanied by an adult.

-Disregards authority figures; teachers, priests, nuns and
elders are but a few examples of this.

-Misbehaves at school.

-Misbehaves at home.

-Eats excessively or too little.

-Eats goth-related foods. Count Dracula cereal is an example of this.

-Drinks blood or expresses an interest in drinking blood.
(Vampires believe this is how to attain Satan. This act is very dangerous and should be stopped immediately.)

-Watches cable television or any other corrupted media
sources. (Ask your local church for proper programs that your child may watch.)

-Plays videos games that contains violence or role-playing nature.

-Uses the internet excessively and frequently makes time for the computer.

-Makes Satanic symbols and/or violently shakes head to music.

-Dances to music in a provocative or sexual manner.

-Expresses an interest in sex.

-Masturbates

-Is homosexual and/or bisexual.

-Pursues dangerous cult religions. Such include: Satanism, Scientology, Philosophy, Paganism, Wicca, Hinduism and Buddhism.

-Wears pins, stickers or anything else that contains these various phrases: "I'm so gothic, I'm dead", "woe is me", "I'm a goth".

-Claims to be a goth.

If five or more of these apply to your child, please intervene immediately. The gothic culture is dangerous and Satan thrives within it. If any of these problems persist, enlist your child into your local mental health center.

~St. Mary's Catholic Church

civicrider
10-24-2004, 12:43 PM
haha dumb fucking churches scared of goths, im against both goths are dumb queers seeking attention and that curch is just trying to sucker in more people to its cult haha nice letter though.

Shaolin
10-24-2004, 12:54 PM
umm, are you shittin me? where's this St. Mary's Church? what religion are they? I refuse to believe people who dress goth are actually suicidal and shit, they're more attention whores more than anything. I dated one about 8 years ago, and that was an interesting experience.

Skylinelover
10-24-2004, 01:02 PM
Eats goth-related foods. Count Dracula cereal is an example of this.

Hahaha!

Khyron
10-24-2004, 01:20 PM
Haha - some of the last ones are pretty good. Imagine the parents if they really did send this out.

Khyron

SmAcKpOo
10-24-2004, 01:23 PM
"expesses and interest in sex"


HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA wow, we all must be goths!

Skylinelover
10-24-2004, 01:25 PM
Lol, so true :D

EK 2.0
10-24-2004, 01:26 PM
Originally posted by SkylineAdmirer
This was an actual letter sent out by the St. Mary's Church:

If Your Child is a Gothic, Reform Through the Lord!

-Frequently wears black clothing.

-Wears band and/or rock t-shirts.

-Shows an interest in piercings or tattoos.

-Associates with other people that dress, act or speak
eccentrically.

-Shows a declining interest in wholesome activities, such
as: the Bible, prayer, church or sports.

-Takes drugs.

-Drinks alcohol.

-Is suicidal and/or depressed.

-Complains of boredom.

-Sleeps too excessively or too little.

-Is excessively awake during the night.

-Demands an unusual amount of privacy.

-Insists on spending time with friends while unaccompanied by an adult.

-Disregards authority figures; teachers, priests, nuns and
elders are but a few examples of this.

-Misbehaves at school.

-Misbehaves at home.

-Eats goth-related foods. Count Dracula cereal is an example of this.

-Watches cable television or any other corrupted media
sources. (Ask your local church for proper programs that your child may watch.)

-Plays videos games that contains violence or role-playing nature.

-Uses the internet excessively and frequently makes time for the computer.

-Makes Satanic symbols and/or violently shakes head to music.

-Dances to music in a provocative or sexual manner.

-Expresses an interest in sex.

-Pursues dangerous cult religions. Such include: Satanism, Scientology, Philosophy, Paganism, Wicca, Hinduism and Buddhism.


If five or more of these apply to your child, please intervene immediately. The gothic culture is dangerous and Satan thrives within it. If any of these problems persist, enlist your child into your local mental health center.

~St. Mary's Catholic Church


If five or more of those apply??

I edited out the "gothic" ones...and the rest I eft...apply to EVERY teen kid out there...

And because I am a Philo Major, I am gothic??...and I feel bad for all those Hindu kids out there...damn Goths...:rolleyes:


what people come up with these days...

Skylinelover
10-24-2004, 01:28 PM
No doubt it is sad how many kids drink now and smoke weed.

statick
10-24-2004, 01:42 PM
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: i guess im a goth, haha. was that astually sent out? where ?

SkylineAdmirer
10-24-2004, 03:10 PM
Originally posted by Skylinelover
No doubt it is sad how many kids drink now and smoke weed.

How is that sad? its just a good time.
Anyway, i got 26 out of all on this list,(the sad thing is i think goths are fags, i hate all"gothic music" and all that devil worshipping bullshit)i think the stamps and paper were wasted money out of the churches collection plate.
Im not sure where im trying to find out a frend told me about it it was posted on a evenescense forum,(i didnt noe one existed)

Neil4Speed
10-24-2004, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by SkylineAdmirer

-Masturbates


haha I guess everyone is a goth now...

Ferio_vti
10-24-2004, 07:02 PM
Originally posted by SkylineAdmirer

-Eats goth-related foods. Count Dracula cereal is an example of this.




What??? How is Count Chocula evil??

fcuk_it
10-24-2004, 07:05 PM
shit... i've come to a conclusion that im a goth...

Def_3
10-24-2004, 07:18 PM
As if a church would mail something like that out, :bullshit: :bullshit: I went to st.marys high a few years ago next to the church, they arent some psychopaths, yeah some religious people can be quite extreme....but cmon

I call :bullshit:

Z_Fan
10-24-2004, 09:14 PM
Well, I must be goth. Cuz over 5 of those apply to me.

Dammit. I am in need of reform. :rolleyes:

JAYMEZ
10-24-2004, 09:23 PM
Thats bullshit , i went to st marys highschool a few years ago and i know they wouldnt send that shit out . :bullshit:

Ferio_vti
10-24-2004, 10:01 PM
Originally posted by JAYMEZ_STi
Thats bullshit , i went to st marys highschool a few years ago and i know they wouldnt send that shit out . :bullshit:

post up a scan or a pic of this letter then.

three.eighteen.
10-24-2004, 11:14 PM
you guys realize there are probably several thousand churches named st. mary's...and every church contains at least one bible thumper, and if they are zealous enough, its enough to get something like this handed out

there's so many sites like the on the internet, they rate everything out these days on a scale of holiness, hell i remember some album review site and S Club 7 albums were evil...where's hockeybronx when you need him?

shadow
10-24-2004, 11:43 PM
Although I do think it is fake.. I dooo think it is funny..


-Takes drugs.

Well not alone…

-Drinks alcohol.

See above


-Is suicidal and/or depressed.

Well I wasn’t until I found out I was a devil worshipping antisocial mastrabator…. Thanks… thanks a lot..

-Is excessively awake during the night.
I used to blame it on coffee… but now I know it is really satins piss I am drinking..

-Dislikes sunlight or any other form of light.
YEAH and all you people out there who use sun screen to try to fake being normal… your goin to hell..

-Masturbates
*looks at left hand* ITS YOUR FAULT I AM A DEVIL WORSHIPPER!!

-Pursues dangerous cult religions. Such include: Satanism, Scientology, Philosophy, Paganism, Wicca, Hinduism and Buddhism.
“philosophy” is a cult? I never knew going to my philosophy class was like goin to church.

-Expresses an interest in sex.
DAMN MY PARENTS FOR BELIEVING IN PROCREATION!!

-Plays videos games that contains violence or role-playing nature.
… Virtual sex games are still A-ok.

-Drinks blood or expresses an interest in drinking blood.
Children learn from mistakes… lets play… lets see what illness we can get this time..

statick
10-25-2004, 06:33 AM
^:rofl: :rofl:

hockeybronx
11-01-2004, 03:29 PM
Hey Playa...

Okay, reading this even made me a little embarassed. If you guys don't want my advice on this then don't read on...
















Basically I think the thing to remember is that anybody can start a church up in their basement and say whatever they want. There were also cases I think in the States where corrupt pastors were pocketing the offering money and the church was going bankrupt.

Unfortunately this story would definetely give people bad opinions on "The Church" as a whole. I think I fit into at least 10 of those categories, and believe me I LIVE MY LIFE FOR JESUS. Please remember that this is ONE CHURCH or ONE PERSON from that church. Faith isn't about the church you are in anyways, it's about your personal relationship with Jesus Christ.

civicrider
11-01-2004, 03:31 PM
^
buddy that movie brainwashed you for sure:rofl:

SkylineAdmirer
11-01-2004, 03:39 PM
hahaha^^^

respect ppl's beleif's dude to each their own, i still think the majority of the bible is bullshit

civicrider
11-01-2004, 04:09 PM
well they dont respect others so why should I?

GingeRRRBeef
11-01-2004, 05:04 PM
Originally posted by SkylineAdmirer

-Frequently wears black clothing.
Sooooooooo chinese people then ....

-Wears band and/or rock t-shirts.
So does N'Sync shirt counts????

-Shows an interest in piercings or tattoos.
guess the Hell's Angel's are going to errr hell ...

-Associates with other people that dress, act or speak
eccentrically.
Guilty


-Shows a declining interest in wholesome activities, such
as: the Bible, prayer, church or sports.
Guilty

-Takes drugs.
Guilty

-Drinks alcohol.
Guilty

-Complains of boredom.
Guilty

-Sleeps too excessively or too little.
Guilty

-Is excessively awake during the night.
Guilty

-Dislikes sunlight or any other form of light. (This pertains to
vampires promoting the idea that His light is of no use.)
the whole computer science department is going to hell

-Insists on spending time with friends while unaccompanied by an adult.
Guilty

-Disregards authority figures; teachers, priests, nuns and
elders are but a few examples of this.
Guilty

-Eats excessively or too little.
Guilty

-Eats goth-related foods. Count Dracula cereal is an example of this.
Guilty

-Watches cable television or any other corrupted media
sources. (Ask your local church for proper programs that your child may watch.)
Guilty

-Plays videos games that contains violence or role-playing nature.
Guilty

-Uses the internet excessively and frequently makes time for the computer.
Guilty

-Dances to music in a provocative or sexual manner.
Guilty

-Expresses an interest in sex.
Guilty

-Masturbates
Guilty
Guilty
Guilty
Guilty
Guilty
Guilty
Guilty
Guilty
Guilty
Guilty
Guilty

Skylinelover
11-01-2004, 05:18 PM
^ You forgot one
[quote] Originally posted by SkylineAdmirer
Is homosexual and/or bisexual.[/qoute]
*cough* you are guilty*cough*

GingeRRRBeef
11-01-2004, 05:20 PM
Originally posted by Skylinelover
^ You forgot one
[quote] Originally posted by SkylineAdmirer
Is homosexual and/or bisexual.[/qoute]
*cough* you are guilty*cough*


Funny, altar boy .... :thumbsdow

WhiteNikes
11-01-2004, 05:23 PM
Originally posted by Skylinelover
^ You forgot one
[quote] Originally posted by SkylineAdmirer
Is homosexual and/or bisexual.[/qoute]
*cough* you are guilty*cough*


Daym son, at first I thought it were an inside joke. but I done found out you just cain't cuss good. that were a pretty sorry attempt G.

BumpinTalon
11-01-2004, 05:38 PM
haha well if reform means they are going to take the goth kid in question out back and shoot him or her, sweet, all the power to them

EK 2.0
11-01-2004, 10:59 PM
Originally posted by BumpinTalon
haha well if reform means they are going to take the goth kid in question out back and shoot him or her, sweet, all the power to them


you sir...are a mongaloid...

SkylineAdmirer
11-02-2004, 04:33 PM
Originally posted by BumpinTalon
haha well if reform means they are going to take the goth kid in question out back and shoot him or her, sweet, all the power to them

dumbass, 26 out of all on this list, and i make fun of goths!
shoot them? u sure aren't christian, wut religion does cover that exactly?..... who knows islam actually kill the blasphemers!!:rofl:

statick
11-02-2004, 06:00 PM
^islam doesnt kill blasphemers

cycosis
11-02-2004, 06:03 PM
shows a decline in "wholesome" activities such as readin the bible. fuck that. stupid hardcore christians. aetheism is where its at.:D

SkylineAdmirer
11-02-2004, 06:09 PM
Originally posted by statick
^islam doesnt kill blasphemers


i was just jabbing at radicals soory, thats infidels not blaspehemers

statick
11-02-2004, 07:16 PM
any extremist/radical will kill or harm "infidels" from their point of view, but yea i guess u were jokin and i took it seriosly, its all good:thumbsup:

jaysas_63
11-02-2004, 08:19 PM
i really have a hard time beliven that this is real.....

"........parental guidance to rid your child of Satan's temptations if five or more of the following are applicable to your child:


Eats goth-related foods. Count Dracula cereal is an example of this.

Sleeps too excessively or too little.

Complains of boredom

Eats excessively or too little.

Masturbates........"

coco puffs??? i have to call :bullshit:.........but props it was funny to read :thumbsup:

SkylineAdmirer
11-02-2004, 09:41 PM
haha.... just got it form another forum dude, but hey, there are some very old people out there working in churches.

hockeybronx
11-03-2004, 02:22 AM
Originally posted by cycosis
shows a decline in "wholesome" activities such as readin the bible. fuck that. stupid hardcore christians. aetheism is where its at.:D

Hey Playa...

I see where your view is coming from for sure, this list is one of the whackest things I've heard.

Yes I believe that the reading the bible is a "wholesome activity" but I also think other things such as spending time building relationships with friends, having hobbies you like to do, and generally relaxing and enjoying life are other wholesome activities as well.

I challenge you not to generalize "all Christians" or believers of the bible because of this one quote found somewhere on the internet:thumbsup:

statick
11-03-2004, 07:28 AM
^:werd:

WhiteNikes
11-03-2004, 12:50 PM
Originally posted by hockeybronx


Hey Playa...

I see where your view is coming from for sure, this list is one of the whackest things I've heard.

Yes I believe that the reading the bible is a "wholesome activity" but I also think other things such as spending time building relationships with friends, having hobbies you like to do, and generally relaxing and enjoying life are other wholesome activities as well.

I challenge you not to generalize "all Christians" or believers of the bible because of this one quote found somewhere on the internet:thumbsup:

I see you, but it be kinda hard to not generalize the religous cats when religious cats be so quick to generalize anyone who ain't see things there way.

statick
11-03-2004, 01:17 PM
^not always the case. thats just the genralization of how many ppl see "religous cats"

SkylineAdmirer
11-03-2004, 01:28 PM
^^:werd: hes bang on^^

Def_3
11-03-2004, 01:55 PM
Originally posted by SkylineAdmirer
This was an actual letter sent out by the St. Mary's Church:



~St. Mary's Catholic Church

well, after reading all the posts on this topic

1.I feel all religions, from time to time, do put down others who challenge their beliefs,

2.Saying only catholics or christians do this is COMPLETELY exagerating and very arrogant

3. To the person who posted this, you should research how reliable your so called sources are, you are posting this on a Calgary based site, where we have 1 St.Marys church and high school, you should NOT post saying that St.Mary's MAILED OUT this letter out, when I am almost positive that you found this on the web, if infact they did mail this out I would LOVE to see a pic or scan of it

:closed:

WhiteNikes
11-03-2004, 02:33 PM
Originally posted by statick
^not always the case. thats just the genralization of how many ppl see "religous cats"



Originally posted by SkylineAdmirer
^^:werd: hes bang on^^


:werd: Seem 'bout right t' me.

hockeybronx
11-03-2004, 03:08 PM
Hey Playa...

Boys...I'm glad this isn't turning into another 'holy war'.

It's great too see that we are all realizing how people can be generalized so easily.

Yes some non-believers do generalize believers negatively...but not all.

And

Yes some believers do generalize the rest of the world negatively as well...but not all.

It was definetely eye opening to see this thread though.

googe
11-04-2004, 01:29 PM
Originally posted by hockeybronx
Hey Playa...

Boys...I'm glad this isn't turning into another 'holy war'.

It's great too see that we are all realizing how people can be generalized so easily.

Yes some non-believers do generalize believers negatively...but not all.

And

Yes some believers do generalize the rest of the world negatively as well...but not all.

It was definetely eye opening to see this thread though.

hey playa...

jesus is so annoyed with your "hey playa" that he himself is even going to punch you out when he sees you

ZorroAMG
11-04-2004, 01:58 PM
^^:rofl: I wonder what donkeybronx ACTUALLY looks like....Dr.Evil comes to mind....

QuasarCav
11-04-2004, 02:00 PM
Originally posted by cycosis
shows a decline in "wholesome" activities such as readin the bible. fuck that. stupid hardcore christians. aetheism is where its at.:D


:werd:

SkylineAdmirer
11-06-2004, 09:24 AM
Originally posted by googe


hey playa...

jesus is so annoyed with your "hey playa" that he himself is even going to punch you out when he sees you

:rofl: :rofl:

and yea fuck reading the bible, almost no1 does that these days