nitrogen for tires

[sugoi240]

looking for a local store in calgary that can put nitrogen into
my tires

[big_k]

costco, canadian tire and i believe walmart

[BerserkerCatSplat]

Why the hell would you pay money for that?


Read: http://forums.beyond.ca/st/209832/nitrogen-in-tires/

[Tik-Tok]

I found 100% nitrogen didn't give me the results I needed for mad drifting, I found a good combination of 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen, a bit of argon, a little carbon dioxide made for the best mix.

Pm me, and I can hook you up with my combo for $30 for a set of 4 tires.

[Euro_Trash]

Nitrogen filled tires are JDM

[badatusrnames]

Originally posted by Tik-Tok
I found 100% nitrogen didn't give me the results I needed for mad drifting, I found a good combination of 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen, a bit of argon, a little carbon dioxide made for the best mix.

Pm me, and I can hook you up with my combo for $30 for a set of 4 tires.

Great deal!

[Dr_Funk]

My aunt was looking at a used Pilot a Honda dealership in the NW, and the guy wanted to add $400 to the price since they filled the tires with Nitrogen. He said that since nitrogen is inert, it doesn't eat away at the tire wall. Thats a load of BS, I bet he doesnt even know what inert means. Sounds like a f***ing scam to me. I dont see the outside of my tire being eating away by the air...

I can understand if they use it in tires for high performance cars, but a used 2003 Pilot and charging $400 for it is retarded!!

[eblend]

I had nitrogen in my old car, but had new tires and rims on it and in 2 years it never leaked any air. Thats the only benefit I can see is that it doesn't leak as much since the molecules are bigger then air

[suen17]

Originally posted by eblend
I had nitrogen in my old car, but had new tires and rims on it and in 2 years it never leaked any air. Thats the only benefit I can see is that it doesn't leak as much since the molecules are bigger then air

whoopdeefuckingdoo.

Nitrogen covalent bond length = 75pm
Oxygen covalent bond length = 73pm

[badatusrnames]

Originally posted by suen17


whoopdeefuckingdoo.

Nitrogen covalent bond length = 75pm
Oxygen covalent bond length = 73pm

Molecular size of oxygen (O2): 0.29nm
Molecular Size of nitrogen (N2): 0.31nm

Although the permeabilities for each molecule through rubber could be different... but size wouldn't have anything to do with it...

And its been mentioned that air is 79% nitrogen anyways. Dealerships really need to be taken to task for trying to sell someone nitrogen for $400, because even if it is effective and desirable to put in your tires (something I'm skeptical about) it's dirt cheap anyways. The dealership should be charging cents for this, not hundreds of dollars. All they are doing is preying in naive people.

[ae92gts]

if i remember correcty (correct me if i am wrong) but back in high school i believe they tought us that aluminum and nitrogen react

[badatusrnames]

Originally posted by ae92gts
if i remember correcty (correct me if i am wrong) but back in high school i believe they tought us that aluminum and nitrogen react

mmm... not sure about that. You might be thinking of nitric acid, which is a completely different substance than molecular nitrogen.

Aluminum reacts readily with oxygen though, the reason that aluminum doesn't "rust" is that all exposed aluminum surfaces quickly form a layer of aluminum oxide. Aluminum oxide is a rather hard material that remains readily bonded to the underlying aluminum surface, forming a natural sealant that prevents the material from oxidizing further and making it resistant to weathering.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminum_oxide#Properties

This is in contrast to iron oxide, which as we all know, is a material that is substantially weaker than pure iron and readily flakes off from its substrate, leading to the destruction of the material.

[Euro_Trash]

I would pay 400 bucks just to rock the green valve stem caps

[ae92gts]

Originally posted by badatusrnames


mmm... not sure about that. You might be thinking of nitric acid, which is a completely different substance than molecular nitrogen.

Aluminum reacts readily with oxygen though, the reason that aluminum doesn't "rust" is that all exposed aluminum surfaces quickly form a layer of aluminum oxide. Aluminum oxide is a rather hard material that remains readily bonded to the underlying aluminum surface, forming a natural sealant that prevents the material from oxidizing further and making it resistant to weathering.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminum_oxide#Properties

This is in contrast to iron oxide, which as we all know, is a material that is substantially weaker than pure iron and readily flakes off from its substrate, leading to the destruction of the material.

I stand corrected

[510-Trevor]

Nitrogen filled tires maintain their air pressure due to the lack of water vapor. Its water vapor that causes your tires to loose or gain pressure due to fluctuations in weather (heat - cold).
That said, a properly maintained compressor will not have much H2O in it, and will work just as good (for anything but all out race cars where 1/100 second is the difference between 1st and 2nd)
Water vapor is also the biggest cause of leaky rims in that it causes the corrosion that keeps the tires from sealing properly.

[sugoi240]

I would also like to point out the advantages, since this thread is getting pretty long...

1. low fluctuations in tire pressure throughout all seasons
2. reduced temperature within the tire and therefore reduce temp on tires, reducing wear
3. inert and should reduce oxidization on rims.
4. JDM, lol, might as well


Thanks guys

[wadadah]

well i work in the aircraft industry and we use nitrogen in our tires mainly because of water vapors as 510-Trevor stated, no trace water vapors in aircraft tires can be allowed for the main reason that, when your 36000 ft in the air its about -52, the vapors will freeze and settle in the bottom of the tire, which will cause a wheel skid, which means, a delay in flight because there is a big hole in the tire.. so basically what i am saying is, nitrogen in car tires is a was of your money.