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Steal a car in Winnipeg, get your ass beat.... quote:

Winnipeg Sun article

Youtube Video of the news broadcast

Typical media spin on the Global News broadcast, throwing the race card pretty quickly. Sun actually recognized this was not racially motivated, but purely vigilante in nature... though the thread's title didn't help.


The original thread was deleted, but basically the story is this:

Guy and his wife go out to their car. Wife puts kid in the back seat, gets in the front and starts the car. Guy sees would-be thief breaking into his friend's car. Goes to get his buddy. Comes out and sees the thief has moved onto HIS car which is running, with his wife and kid inside, putting them in clear and present danger.

Four of them end up beating the crap out of this guy, call the police, and take pictures while waiting. Police take no issue with the 'actions' taken by the four, and take the guy away.

Where it goes wrong: They post the pictures and the story on WinnipegHeights. Media gets a hold of it. Twist twist twist. Thread is deleted, media is banned from the site and new registrations are locked until the shit-storm blows over.

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shit just got real.

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Don't blame the guys and I know how it is in the peg... can't give the media anything or this goes down.

Good on them for stopping the predator.

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How is that racist? They didn't beat him for being an indian, they beat him for being a thief. Good on them.

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Wait, at the end of the segment, that hot white chick is an aboriginal?



News is suppose to find the angle that generate reaction. Racism is an easy sale. That post isn't any worse than anything you would read on Beyond.

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What were they supposed to do?

I guess they should have tried luring him away with a bottle of Listerine and drove off peacefully.

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Apparently these days you aren't supposed to do anything. Just get victimised

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Give him the ol Ralphie SHOOT SHOVEL AND SHUT UP.

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winnipeg is a a big ghetto

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Re: Steal a car in Winnipeg, get your ass beat.... quote:

Originally posted by TorqueDog

Four of them end up beating the crap out of this guy,



The kid got into it too? Cool!

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so whats the problem here?

I don't see anything wrong with beating the shit out of this guy. He was trying to steal a car with an infant and woman in it.

Sure its probably a little excessive but so is stealing cars?

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Originally posted by ChappedLips
What were they supposed to do?

I guess they should have tried luring him away with a bottle of Listerine and drove off peacefully.



hahaha... that's awesome.

When I worked at Zellers many years ago, we would have natives come in and clear us out of rubbing alcohol and mouthwash. Eventually, we stopped serving them since we knew what it was for, and told them to leave the store. I hear that rubbing alcohol is particularly harmful...

As far as this incident goes, I 100% support the owner of the car. If someone broke into my own car, they would get a beatdown. If they broke into my car and threatened my wife and kid, I'm not sure I'd stop until they are no longer moving.

It would not make ANY difference if the person was native, white, asian, or black. I am sick of minorities playing the race card when it's pretty obvious the person was asking for it in the first place. Just because this guy was native doesn't mean jack squat, and someone should stick something in that white/native girl's piehole and shut her up. SHE is the reason people would be outraged by this, as she is twisting the facts to suit her cause. In the end, she's actually causing MORE problems for the native people.

Originally posted by SJW
Far as i'm concerned. Dont call police.

Thieves should die.



That seems a little strong. I'm all for beating the living crap out of this guy, and know I might take it a bit too far if my wife and kid are threatened, but I would not consider intentionally killing someone over this. Once he's incapacitated, that's good enough for me. He's no longer a threat.

Are you telling me you've not so much as stolen a pack of gum as a kid? I'd find that hard to believe.

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Far as i'm concerned. Dont call police.

Thieves should die.

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I wonder how much jailtime he won't serve.

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Its an on-going debacle that still services as media hype. Winnipeg is such as bureaucratic town with people far too sensitive for any good reason.

This is absolute crap, but its not the first time a circumstance like this has occurred.

I think about a year ago, an article was released by the Sun press reflecting how this "poor" native american man down on his luck got his ass handed to him when he tried to hold up a gas station with a knife. Of course the media took a spin on how the city was hard on the indegunious people, having to live through extreme oppressions and all.

I call bullshit! Though rare, I know examples of successful contributing members of our society who happen to be aboriginal.

Its the "underdog" sympathizers that truly cause such controversy.

In Winnipeg, racial slurs against the Native Americans are as common as they come, but their reputation of them being inbread FAS walking wastes of skin never goes unconfirmed.

To me, and likely to the entire Jewish population in Winnipeg, take offense to comment, or Media endorsement that made in any reference to "hate crimes" that they have ever had to endure.

I grew up in Winnipeg, in a nice suburban area, which our Mayor in the earlier 90's, I think Susan Thompson and a deputy mayor who was Metis, had a great idea to assimilate the displaced natives in the City and to invite more aborigines from neighboring reserves.
This program, called Manitoba Housing, rented from slumlords across the city, ranging from downtown to even the far ends of suburbia, such my area, providing "low income" housing.

The result? Crime, property value plummeted as these "people" further confirmed their stereotypes

Break ins, thefts, rape, molestation just to name a few.

I remember going to my high school class, walking with a buddy, and there was Jonny Runningwater huffing away at some lysol in the baseball diamond next door.
As we walk by, he yells out; f' you whitebread'... meanwhile I'm as Asian as can be.

Next thing you know, I'm working his face with my knee until the buzzer goes and he's leaking everywhere.

Lunch time, I go outside and have a smoke.
There's Jonny who missed classes, comes up to me ask says: hey maaan bum me a smoke buddy? not even able to remember the beating I gave him a couple hours earlier.

Now getting back to the rare circumstances that you see the few examples make it through, living what we would deem a conventional lifestyle.

Well in their culture it takes balls to take initiative.
My friend, an RCMP officer in blood vein MB, had to investigate a murder.
This one aspiring person, who recently graduated high-school, who never served a criminal sentence, was slated to go to University of Manitoba on a scholarship (well not like they need one). During his graduation party, two of his brothers stabbed him to death, purely out of jealousy.

No witnesses ever came forward, and the Chief "condoned" the attacks as possibly self defense, not allowing for further investigation... and nothing happened

Even the Chief was in common belief that their right to passage/Manhood is not through education, but rather to serve hard time.

So those few exceptional aborigines who defied their own tribe/family had to endure a ridiculous amount of hardship just to make it past their own people's expectations.

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Originally posted by r3ccOs
Its an on-going debacle that still services as media hype. Winnipeg is such as bureaucratic town with people far too sensitive for any good reason.

This is absolute crap, but its not the first time a circumstance like this has occurred.

I think about a year ago, an article was released by the Sun press reflecting how this "poor" native american man down on his luck got his ass handed to him when he tried to hold up a gas station with a knife. Of course the media took a spin on how the city was hard on the indegunious people, having to live through extreme oppressions and all.

I call bullshit! Though rare, I know examples of successful contributing members of our society who happen to be aboriginal.

Its the "underdog" sympathizers that truly cause such controversy.

In Winnipeg, racial slurs against the Native Americans are as common as they come, but their reputation of them being inbread FAS walking wastes of skin never goes unconfirmed.

To me, and likely to the entire Jewish population in Winnipeg, take offense to comment, or Media endorsement that made in any reference to "hate crimes" that they have ever had to endure.

I grew up in Winnipeg, in a nice suburban area, which our Mayor in the earlier 90's, I think Susan Thompson and a deputy mayor who was Metis, had a great idea to assimilate the displaced natives in the City and to invite more aborigines from neighboring reserves.
This program, called Manitoba Housing, rented from slumlords across the city, ranging from downtown to even the far ends of suburbia, such my area, providing "low income" housing.

The result? Crime, property value plummeted as these "people" further confirmed their stereotypes

Break ins, thefts, rape, molestation just to name a few.

I remember going to my high school class, walking with a buddy, and there was Jonny Runningwater huffing away at some lysol in the baseball diamond next door.
As we walk by, he yells out; f' you whitebread'... meanwhile I'm as Asian as can be.

Next thing you know, I'm working his face with my knee until the buzzer goes and he's leaking everywhere.

Lunch time, I go outside and have a smoke.
There's Jonny who missed classes, comes up to me ask says: hey maaan bum me a smoke buddy? not even able to remember the beating I gave him a couple hours earlier.

Now getting back to the rare circumstances that you see the few examples make it through, living what we would deem a conventional lifestyle.

Well in their culture it takes balls to take initiative.
My friend, an RCMP officer in blood vein MB, had to investigate a murder.
This one aspiring person, who recently graduated high-school, who never served a criminal sentence, was slated to go to University of Manitoba on a scholarship (well not like they need one). During his graduation party, two of his brothers stabbed him to death, purely out of jealousy.

No witnesses ever came forward, and the Chief "condoned" the attacks as possibly self defense, not allowing for further investigation... and nothing happened

Even the Chief was in common belief that their right to passage/Manhood is not through education, but rather to serve hard time.

So those few exceptional aborigines who defied their own tribe/family had to endure a ridiculous amount of hardship just to make it past their own people's expectations.




I knew something like this was going to come up the second the OP was made.

I asked the question amongst a few people the other day, Why do natives still have all the rights and privileges that they do nothing but waste/take advantage of?

I've yet to find an answer.

Why are they given money/special treatment time after time while doing nothing but wasting it and being a menace to the rest of society.
I don't doubt that they're capable of better, but of course they're not gonna try when they don't have to.
Also, I know they don't all follow the stereotype, but personally, I've yet to meet one that didn't.

Take my post how you want to..

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When people are given everything...

they are going to always be expecting to have that entitlement

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Re: Steal a car in Winnipeg, get your ass beat.... quote:

Originally posted by TorqueDog
Thread is deleted, media is banned from the site and new registrations are locked until the shit-storm blows over.


I would've kept the thread open .

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so whats the problem here?

I don't see anything wrong with beating the shit out of this guy. He was trying to steal a car with an infant and woman in it.

Sure its probably a little excessive but so is stealing cars?



I'm sure being native didn't help his case, but those guys would have worked anyone stealing their cars. White, black, native, whatever.

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