Originally posted by Type_S1
I guess we can agree to disagree. The 5 guys I mentioned I feel are way more deserving. Is there a reason you think he should fall into the top 5 over those guys?
I don't disagree with most of your list, but I'd add Kawhi.
Harden, Lebron, Kawhi, Westbrook and Thomas.
As I said earlier, I think winning is an important factor in MVP consideration, so I think the MVP should at least have home-court in the playoffs - eliminating Westbrook and Thomas. Don't get me wrong, I think Westbrook is crushing it this year, but I think to discount Harden because he has better pieces around him is the same as being a good player on a bad team (like Russ). Thomas is a long shot, and I wouldn't be surprised if Curry is in the top 5 vote for MVP. Thomas has averaged more PPG, but Curry averages more steals, rebounds and assists.
Realistically, it's a 3-person race for MVP between Harden, Westbrook and Lebron. Kawhi puts up good numbers, but he suffers from playing in a team/system/franchise that doesn't truly showcase his abilities, nor are there stats that truly and objectively measure his contributions on the defensive end. Arguably, that hurts Kawhi, but could help guys like Harden and Westbrook who aren't known for their defense.
I wouldn't be angry with either Harden or Lebron winning. With winning being the biggest factor in my criteria, Lebron would deserve to win. He's carrying an old and bickering Cavs team (though I would argue that is his own doing).
Harden's numbers are ridiculous and very similar to Russ' except his team has the 3rd best record in the league. That's why I think Harden should win it.
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