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    I don't know how much a cut you got but I think you are too attached to the $$$ cut but nothing else. If the work condition sucks and manager and bosses treat you like shit. Just quit, EI or not.

    There are very few employers who are not looking at the 30% saving on hiring new staff. The customers are also looking at the same saving to be delivered. Everything is constantly being priced down, wages not withstanding.

    You look at your job, your pay and compare to CURRENT industry average and how valuable and marketable you are. If every aspect looks good, who give a shit about EI. Just quit and let someone else have your job.

    Some of you may call it exploit, at the end of the day, it's just business.

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    dude, if you quit get another job and don't be a fucking leech on society. it's one thing if you have no skill whatsoever, you get laid off, and then can't find a job because the market can't support labor, but it's another thing to quit a paying job so that you can sit on your fat ass in forest lawn and leech off the rest of us, when we could be otherwise put that money to use improving our infrastructure, schools, police force, etc.

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    EI is a joke for most people honestly.

    Its capped at a max compensation of 55% of your wage to a max of $42k per annual tallying a max compensation of $488 (taxable) per week (the only caviets would be less compensation based upon hours worked for eligabilty and duration)

    Now, this is better than nothing and is based on a federally tallied stat and we live in a socialistic country . However as we live in Calgary, we are all accustomed to higher than average incomes, and relatively higher cost of living and quite honestly better lifestyles.

    The worst part, which was in my case, is that if you recieve a settlement/severance, they take your Gross settlement amount into account and divide it by the $488 max compensation amount to determine when you are even eligable to start recieving EI.

    For me, that would be close to 7 months, of which I could never be able to sustain my living costs on.

    So yea, I got a job quickly there after, like a good Canadian
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    It's interesting... we're all very quick to bitch at the auto workers to suck it up, work for less money, and enjoy actually having a job... in fact, it's become almost a standard sentiment as GM & Chrysler fall apart...

    So to advise someone to quit their job instead of working for less seems like a bit of a double standard, no?

    To the OP... I have no qualms about you leaving your current position due to the circumstances you have raised, but I personally feel that you should secure new employment before doing so, instead of looking for EI benefits.

    Things really are not that dire here in Calgary... there is work out there. Leave the EI for areas where there is nothing left for the people... like many parts of Southern Ontario.

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    Forget what the guy above me just wrote. Forget people in Southern Ontario. I've never been there and I probably never will go there. I don't give a flying fuck about those people. If I pay into the fund, then I am perfectly entitled to draw benefits from the fund.

    This is like people who bitch about co-workers who use their group benefit coverage for things like massages and prescription eyeware. Why not use it? Why "save" it for the people who really need it? No, I say if you pay into it, which you do, and you don't have an option not to, then draw every last dime out of it that you can.

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    ^ By that logic, I should smash out my windows or dent up my car so that my insurance can pay for new stuff... I mean, I pay into it, I might as well get every penny back!

    I get your position, but I don't believe it's the right way to go about business.

    Leave EI for the truly unemployable. The system is abused bad enough as is.

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    Originally posted by masoncgy
    ^ By that logic, I should smash out my windows or dent up my car so that my insurance can pay for new stuff... I mean, I pay into it, I might as well get every penny back!

    I get your position, but I don't believe it's the right way to go about business.

    Leave EI for the truly unemployable. The system is abused bad enough as is.
    Don't mind him, in his line of business, that's how its done.

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    WTF is wrong with you people? Do you not understand how Employment Insurance (note the word insurance) actually works or it's intent?

    He can quit all he wants, but if the employer pushed him to do so, then why shouldn't he be able to get EI? He's not a "leech" on the system either... he paid into it... it's there as insurance during these exact moments. You are essentially telling him to suck it up, stay working in a miserable environment and try to find a different job which might take him months and months.

    If someone was actually a leech to the system, then they won't get approved in the first place. And by the way, saying that EI should be saved for Ontario is a bit off. EI payouts are calculated depending on many factors, one of which included the unemployment % in your area. People in bad areas of Ontario will automatically get more than others in Calgary.

    I think you guys are confusing EI with the Welfare program.
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    ^WHAT!!!?!?!? it doesn't matter whether he pays in or not. the point of the program is to provide some assistance for people when work is not available. it's not meant to replace the salary of losers who quit after they get a pay reduction. seriously, if this guys' salary is being reduced, he was probably being overpaid in the first place.

    and i agree with the insurance analogy posted above

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    Originally posted by masoncgy
    Leave EI for the truly unemployable. The system is abused bad enough as is.
    Socialistic mentality.

    Use EI, you paid for it (cause its mandatory) and deserve to get some of it back, at a rate of 800 a month.

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    Originally posted by nonlinear
    it's not meant to replace the salary of losers who quit after they get a pay reduction. seriously, if this guys' salary is being reduced, he was probably being overpaid in the first place.
    Wow. It's funny, because in the EI application, there's an option for this exact situation. Hey, the goverment thinks you can, but it wasn't their intent? Sure.

    Do you think everything is rosey and golden when working for all employers in Alberta? Newsflash for ya... some are real dicks, and by letting them walk over you and keeping on working for them while treating you like shit implies acceptance to the new job you have... and if you do end up quitting after the fact, no EI. It's either do it now, or suck it up. I say the people who stay are the losers.
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    ^oh, i didn't know that. but i do know that, even in this economy, there are jobs available everywhere. i mean shit, if i lost my job, i would work at mcdonalds if i had to. or buy a lawnmower and shovel and do yard work. whatever you have to do. think about how boring it would be to sit around all day, no job, leeching off the rest of us.

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    Nobody other than whiney brats who happen to work the rigs for a few months of the year who live at home can survive off of the compensation amount available

    Seriously $488 (gross, not net) a week is just not enough to get by

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