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29k MSRP for a Civic Si coupe 1.5T

Just go get a 2 door GTI for 30k lol.

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Where is the greatest race car of them all in that ad? The Accord 6-6

Fixed that for ya.



So pissed that they didn't put the Accord 6-6 in that ad. Probably was intentional though. They don't want to let that cat out of the bag.

Also agree that the new Si is pretty ugly looking and overpriced.

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29k MSRP for a Civic Si coupe 1.5T

Just go get a 2 door GTI for 30k lol.



Nothing wrong with a Base GTI but the SI will be fully loaded for 30k. To get into a similar optioned GTI you would be closer to 36.

I guess I am in the minority here but I think that 30k is a great price for this car. LSD, Adaptive Suspension, fairly loaded, and it weighs like 2900 lbs.

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Originally posted by Redlined_8000
29k MSRP for a Civic Si coupe 1.5T

Just go get a 2 door GTI for 30k lol.



There will be a pretty huge difference in equipment and interior appointments between the two since the Si is supposedly based off the Touring civic, which has a ridiculous amount of features/options. The GTI requires about $8K of options on it before you hit the same level and even then it still doesn't have as much. You are paying a good sized premium for that 2.0T, which of course is an excellent motor and a big draw, but it's not really an apples to apples comparison.

I agree with the previous poster that around $30K is a perfect price for a car like this, and for as well equipped as it will be. If you want a similarly appointed GTI it's going to cost you a lot more. If you're willing to buy a base model, there are always better price-performance vehicles regardless of what category you're shopping in.

A simple flash on the base 1.5T gets you 225 HP / 254 TQ, so the Si can likely do better yet. I'm sure you can get more out of the GTI but that's pretty decent for a loaded model for ~30K.

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I wonder how good the stock intercooler and downpipe will be on the Civic SI to be able to safely run that extra boost/power.

Simple flash (stage 1 APR) on base GTI is making nearly 300whp and 330wtq. Makes Focus ST owners jealous...our stage 1 flash from Cobb will make 240whp and over 300wtq due to a small turbo.

Focus ST can be had for 30k. I walked out the dealership with mine for not a dollar over $30k (new) with all the bells and whistles (minus the $500 ricing stripes) back in 2015. 90% of ST's we get in Canada (and the RS) are the mostly-loaded ST3/RS3 package.

I saw a "What did you pay" thread, and the ST1's they have in the U.S. (base model) people down there are getting them OTD for as low as $21k USD. No Recaro's, sunroof, or Sync/Nav in one of those. These SI's are starting at 23,5 down there.

Performance crap aside, as a day to day car, I know I already prefer and think the new Civic (touring EX-T) interior is nicer than the Focus ST, heck it's nicer than a lot of the E90/92 3 series BMW interiors. GTI interior I'd say is still a notch above the SI and has a seamless infotainment system. I don't think I've yet driven a Japanese car with a good infotainment system, a lot more fond of Chrysler UConnect or Ford Sync. But like is said, a lot more money to equip a German car, be it a GTI or a Porsche. The Honda will make up for it with features, LSD, and handling will probably be a lot closer to a Fiesta ST - interested to hear from journalists comparing the two.

Touring Civic has all those driver's aid semi-autonomous nannies (cross traffic, sensors all over, park assist) and that thing Honda has where signalling to make a right lane change will automatically turn on the camera in the right side mirror housing and display a view of the next lane on the screen tacked on the center stack. Pretty neat.

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Originally posted by Redlined_8000
29k MSRP for a Civic Si coupe 1.5T

Just go get a 2 door GTI for 30k lol.



There is no more 3 door GTI. 2018s will only be 5 door.

But, they are now 35 colours to choose from. Bad news is 30 of those colors are a standalone $3,000 option.

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The US Si is based off lower trim Civics. In Canada our Si will be based off Touring sedan.

My guess is only one loaded trim level $28,990 MSRP before fees. This car will be made in Canada so, it has that going for it vs the hatch. It uses the mass produced 1.5T engine too.



I was off $100-$500. Not bad

MSRP is $28,890 for coupe, $28,490 for sedan.

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Looks like $31,721 OTD after Tax, Freight/PDI, with zero discount. Ended up around $1000 cheaper than I thought, that's great. Should be pretty easy to get around $30K all in. They priced it well IMO, I don't think anyone can say it's overpriced at this point.

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Reviews embargo gets lifted on June 6, should be interesting to see how this does against the GTI and Fiesta ST.

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I think I paid around 30K for my Si 10 years ago, but that had a few extras added on. Either way, I wouldn't mind dropping the same money on a new one now, that's a nice price point.

edit- Wait, I'm seeing $32,141.81 cash price all in on Honda.ca

8yr/200K km warranty available for $2,748, wow

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I think I paid around 30K for my Si 10 years ago, but that had a few extras added on. Either way, I wouldn't mind dropping the same money on a new one now, that's a nice price point.

edit- Wait, I'm seeing $32,141.81 cash price all in on Honda.ca



Sedan: $31,721.81 all in

Coupe: $32,141.81 all in

Should be able to get either pretty easily under $30K pre-tax unless they are super popular and dealers play games. It's probably an outstanding lease deal - you can already lease it for under $400/mo before any negotiation. The sedan is cheaper and has a higher residual.

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Sedan: $31,721.81 all in

Coupe: $32,141.81 all in

Should be able to get either pretty easily under $30K pre-tax unless they are super popular and dealers play games. It's probably an outstanding lease deal - you can already lease it for under $400/mo before any negotiation. The sedan is cheaper and has a higher residual.



Hmm. I'm liking the sedan.

I paid 30,200 OTD for my Si 9 years ago but included the front hfp lip and 3m. Basically the same price now. Great value.

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Yah what you get in the new civic's is awesome!!!!!

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More money for half the doors, damn coupes heh. I'll likely wait for the 2018's, I should get decent coin for mine, it's only at around 106K now for km. Doesn't mean I can't tease myself with a test drive or 2 before then

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I was off $100-$500. Not bad

MSRP is $28,890 for coupe, $28,490 for sedan.

I had both Coupe and Sedan right down to exact dollar. Helps though if you know someone in corporate.

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Haven't read the whole thread, apologies if this has already been said...

Why the hell aren't they putting SH-AWD in this thing? I likely will never own another FWD car, so for that reason alone, I wouldn't consider buying a type-r... but it is attractive in almost every other respect. Granted it would bump up the price of the car, it would put it on the radar for a wider audience, put it in closer competition with Golf R, etc.

Am I out to lunch in thinking this?

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Haven't read the whole thread, apologies if this has already been said...

Why the hell aren't they putting SH-AWD in this thing? I likely will never own another FWD car, so for that reason alone, I wouldn't consider buying a type-r... but it is attractive in almost every other respect. Granted it would bump up the price of the car, it would put it on the radar for a wider audience, put it in closer competition with Golf R, etc.

Am I out to lunch in thinking this?



Yes. There is no awd platform it can use. As far as I know civic and 2018-19 accord platform have no awd provisions.

The current accord platform does because of the tlx and the cuv's.

This car when reviewed should impress a lot of people. I think it might be the first (?) fwd car to be pulling 1G laterally.

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Yes. There is no awd platform it can use. As far as I know civic and 2018-19 accord platform have no awd provisions.

The current accord platform does because of the tlx and the cuv's.

This car when reviewed should impress a lot of people. I think it might be the first (?) fwd car to be pulling 1G laterally.



Oh, duh. Guess it was too late when I wrote that.

Also, they need to develop a new one that the civic can use!


No doubt, it's going to be an awesome car. I'm sure there will be lots of people that love it.

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I'm hoping to buy one in a year or 2 after the hype is done.

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