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Computer programming is hard (H1B India) quote:

http://www.gadgetsnow.com/jobs/95-e...ow/58278224.cms

Trump seems to be revoking H1B for computer programmers.

I totally believe the numbers, only about 4.77% of current India graduates can create functional compilable usable code. Of that 1.4% can actually create optimized code that is any better than any other programmer.

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Noone is really willing to give out the US numbers on programming competency either. Its also heavily skewed toward English and traditional programming, which just like basic math they teach nowadays might not be all that useful in the long run.

I learned programming back in the COMAL and Fortran 77 days, when English had nothing to do with programming other than you had to remove it to optimize it, lol.

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From my experience with our in house vs outsourced programmers, this article is fairly accurate.

You get what you pay for.

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From my experiencing interviewing hundreds to thousands of Indian grads, this article is 100% accurate.

The key is finding the diamond in the rough when it comes to new grads, which is insanely difficult.

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But here's the thing: they can have 20 stabs at the same problem and finally resolve it, and still cost 1/5th of the US based programmer.

I heard that engineering firms here are also sending work out to Egypt with each work taking multiple tries and still getting done for a lot cheaper.

I am sure that Microsoft and them who advocate for H1B would know what the quality levels are and still go for it.

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The article has nothing to do with H1B. H1B's are the top guys out of India who make it onto US soil. Once they're in the US, they're getting paid just as well as a US programmer.

The savings isn't bringing people to the US. It's keeping the people overseas and paying them overseas wages.

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The ones that make it over usually have a Masters degree at least.

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ROFL a Masters' Degree makes one a better programmer.

I think I would be the best programmer on the U of C campus if I worked there.

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Could it be that a huge IT boom and the promise of easy money caused a boom in shitty tech colleges as well?

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