I guess its reasonable that you have no real argument in its favour because its an illogical stance to take.Originally posted by g-m
I guess its reasonable that you wouldn't be familiar with the 'responsibility' part of the profession.
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I guess its reasonable that you have no real argument in its favour because its an illogical stance to take.Originally posted by g-m
I guess its reasonable that you wouldn't be familiar with the 'responsibility' part of the profession.
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Why do you think engineers aren't responsible for public safety?
Why do you think engineers are anymore responsible for public safety than any other type of employee?Originally posted by dirtsniffer
Why do you think engineers aren't responsible for public safety?
The other employees don't have to check and stamp the drawings?Originally posted by HiTempguy1
Why do you think engineers are anymore responsible for public safety than any other type of employee?
It depends if the person stayed at holiday inn express or not.
Interested to know what the "higher standards" comment pertained to.Originally posted by rx7_turbo2
His comment caught my eye as well. I don't know a single electrician who'd be willing to make such a definitive statement such as "I'd never work non union again". They'd all tell you there are pros and cons to each. The higher standards comment was complete nonsense. Most trades are governed by a multitude of Provincial and Federal guidelines, regulations and codes that the union plays zero part in.
I think Gestalt figured his statement was a quick way to bolster his argument when the reality is it just once again revealed his lack of life experience.
Was it employment standards? Job acceptance and workmanship? Candidate choice?
Not sure what rights they have over other workers either, especially self employed tradesman?
Too loud for Aspen
HiTemp if I pay the fee will you take the NPPE and show me your pass fail?
Based on your comments in here I have a feeling which way it will go... and even geologists pass that test
Originally posted by Thales of Miletus
If you think I have been trying to present myself as intellectually superior, then you truly are a dimwit.
Originally posted by Toma
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If engineers went on strike, who would die?Originally posted by dirtsniffer
Engineers have a duty to maintain public safety. There is no arguing that point.
Back on track. Fuck I hope I don't have to join a union. I think apega sent me an email about this.
Please compare and contrast to if doctors went on strike as the op compared?
Buncha mechanicslly inept, self importatnt scientific calculator users. Your the reason I have to pull a cab to change a head gasket.
And I still dont see anyone trying to uniojize you. Just giving you freedoms ypu didnt have.
Last edited by Gestalt; 03-31-2017 at 07:43 PM.
What? People don't die now? Oh shit
The funniest part of this post, is this is the "edited" versionOriginally posted by Gestalt
If engineers went on strike, who would die?
Please compare and contrast to if doctors went on strike as the op compared?
Buncha mechanicslly inept, self importatnt scientific calculator users. Your the reason I have to pull a cab to change a head gasket.
And I still dont see anyone trying to uniojize you. Just giving you freedoms ypu didnt have.
Originally posted by Thales of Miletus
If you think I have been trying to present myself as intellectually superior, then you truly are a dimwit.
Originally posted by Toma
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LOL. Why is a doctor responsible for public safety and the X ray tech isn't?Originally posted by HiTempguy1
Why do you think engineers are anymore responsible for public safety than any other type of employee?
Lol at least x ray techs don't pretend they are doctors.Originally posted by dirtsniffer
LOL. Why is a doctor responsible for public safety and the X ray tech isn't?
Originally posted by Thales of Miletus
If you think I have been trying to present myself as intellectually superior, then you truly are a dimwit.
Originally posted by Toma
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See, Gestalt did exactly what he does in every single thread he's involved in. If he doesn't have a predetermined response queued up he'll just ignore your post and move on to one he does have a contrived response too.Originally posted by Maxt
Interested to know what the "higher standards" comment pertained to.
Was it employment standards? Job acceptance and workmanship? Candidate choice?
Not sure what rights they have over other workers either, especially self employed tradesman?
Originally posted by Arash Boodagh
Before I start pwning all the members with my findings.Originally posted by Arash Boodagh
Plus, is it true you can feed a pig elephant dong and it will still grow and build meat?
Toma the homophobe?Originally posted by Toma
rx7_turbfoags best friend
More doctor comparisons.Originally posted by dirtsniffer
LOL. Why is a doctor responsible for public safety and the X ray tech isn't?
It would just further derale the post further from the main points. It's a general point, not important enough to argue.Originally posted by rx7_turbo2
See, Gestalt did exactly what he does in every single thread he's involved in. If he doesn't have a predetermined response queued up he'll just ignore your post and move on to one he does have a contrived response too.
Engineers arent as critical for strike as doctors. No one will die if engineers strike. Work might stop, but that's the point. And no one is forcing anyone to do anything, rather fundamental rights are being restored.
If engineers unionize in Alberta, or any other critical office staff in O&G (G&G, landman, etc.), the O&G industry in Alberta will be officially dead. No argument on this; there are enough challenges already with all the BS...big money will be gone.
I don't think government employees (ahem...guys on this forum) understand how bad HR is in large energy companies. At my last shop we tried to fire people for both fking up massively on things (causing big $s lost and one lawsuit) and being completely useless at their jobs. HR stepped in and said these staff members had to be put on a "performance improvement plan" first. It's a long process and extremely regulated as large companies are afraid of being sued or having bad press.
Originally posted by Gestalt
It would just further derale the post further from the main points. It's a general point, not important enough to argue.
Too loud for Aspen
You're the one who brought it upOriginally posted by Gestalt
It would just further derale the post further from the main points. It's a general point, not important enough to argue.
I have some respect for a Troll that knows they're a Troll and takes pride in it. A Troll that lacks the self awareness to know they're a Troll is just sad.
Originally posted by Arash Boodagh
Before I start pwning all the members with my findings.Originally posted by Arash Boodagh
Plus, is it true you can feed a pig elephant dong and it will still grow and build meat?
Toma the homophobe?Originally posted by Toma
rx7_turbfoags best friend
Interesting thread but no where have I read that there will be any attempts to unionize engineers and even if the Alberta codes were to change to include engineering professions as one that could be included in a bargaining unit, it doesn't mean it's automatic. Votes would still have to be held and in shops where there is currently no union, chances are quite good that nothing would change. Yeah, some rules may change but being in a union just is not a guarantee.
The topic of mandating the Rand formula in collective agreements will be a touchy subject - some unionized workplaces already have this in their collective agreements while others don't.
People also need to understand whether or not changes to Alberta's code will have the potential to affect their workplace or not - is your workplace federally or provincially mandated? TELUS is a federally mandated workplace and as such, any changes to the Alberta codes would have zero effect on TELUS. Many people have absolutely no clue as to what jurisdiction their workplace falls under and then begin spouting off on topics such as this even though they might not even be affected - do some homework and figure out if you'll really be affected or not.
Will fuck off, again.
Originally posted by Maxt
Can you tell me what higher standards the pipefitters got over say a non unionized pipefitter, or self employed pipe fitter?
As usual, that guy has absolutely no idea what he's talking about. He makes shit up, ignores anything that counters his opinion (no matter how factual) and avoids being challenged by deflection and misdirection.
He doesn't have a fucking clue. He's the smartest person he knows though so I guess that's worth something?
Originally posted by SJW
Once again another useless post by JRSCOOLDUDE.
Originally posted by snowcat
Don't let the e-thugs and faggots get to you when they quote your posts and write stupid shit.^^ Fact CheckedOriginally posted by JRSC00LUDE
I say stupid shit all the time.