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    Curious if your priced out / compared building ICF? I've been following along since the start of the thread but don't recall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brucebanner View Post
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    Curious if your priced out / compared building ICF? I've been following along since the start of the thread but don't recall.
    Building a house this big in icf would be very very (very) expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brucebanner View Post
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    Curious if your priced out / compared building ICF? I've been following along since the start of the thread but don't recall.
    I haven't, mostly because I was set on screwpile design. I did shot around for different Pole Barn type builders, but settled with Integrity Post Structures because it was the easiest process (which was still unnecessary hard..). I did research into these things and have looked at ICF type building ect, but at the end of the day, I went with what would be easiest for a DYI.


    Little Update:

    The foam is done! Took him 8 days to do the work, he finished last Friday about noon. He is back this morning to finish cleanup. Foam is a wonderful thing, but it sticks to EVERYTHING! In the garage he lined the entire floor with tarps to protect it from droplets since it will be exposed/epoxied in the future, but rest of the house, the floor is covered with micro droplets. He did ask what floor I was planning on, so he decides if it should be covered or not. These micro droplets end up everywhere, so anything you don't want them on, cover it up. He does cover all windows and doors fully. Part of cleanup is walking around and scraping the entire floor of these drops, but it won't get rid of all of them. They don't matter if you are putting on some floor covering, but figure I mention it.

    Here are the pictures of the finished product (as if there aren't enough foam pictures here already!)

















    Aside from that, I finished the final wall in the utility room, all drywalled and painted in there, it's the first nearly complete room in the house The electrical panel is looking slick recessed. Below the panel is an access panel to all my conduits for future stuff.




    I also set the loft shower and the dog wash shower. For the loft, I applied RedGuard, which is a liquid applied waterproofing membrane, mostly as an extra safeguard to prevent subfloor rot from moisture. I wanted it to extend outside the shower a bit so that when you come out and may still be dripping some water, it will be kept away from the wood. I bought a big ass bucket to do all custom showers downstairs, so used a bit on the floor here. There will be more of it on the walls here as well once those are up. After RedGuard, I mixed a few bags of mortar mix as the shower bed, and set the acrylic shower pan in place. I used left-over window flashing to seal the gap between the shower flanges and the wall. Saw a pro do this, and thought it was a great idea. Usually that gap is simply siliconed in. Waterproof showerboard will go over that flashing to create a shingle effect for water, before it all gets tiled over.






    That's all for now. Just finishing up final things in the walls with blocking ect, and then it's on to drywall. I think there will be a gap of in-activity for a little bit while I wait for drywaller availability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjstare View Post
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    Building a house this big in icf would be very very (very) expensive.
    I know it's expensive, but not sure how expensive.

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    I haven't, mostly because I was set on screwpile design. I did shot around for different Pole Barn type builders, but settled with Integrity Post Structures because it was the easiest process (which was still unnecessary hard..). I did research into these things and have looked at ICF type building ect, but at the end of the day, I went with what would be easiest for a DYI.
    That makes sense. Thought to ask based off of what you shared in foam cost.

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    Well a little update.

    Yesterday I got drywall delivery, and had the hardest day of my life moving it . For anyone who is curious, after shopping around like 5 different drywall suppliers, Home Depot is the cheapest out there, but a long shot, BUT...they will drop off the drywall on your driveway and leave, whereas the professional supply shops will actually carry it inside and stage it where it is needed, but there are extra costs for that depending on upstairs/downstairs, types of stairs ect. Additionally, HD doesn't carry 14' sheets, just up to 12', so if your drywaller calls for 14s, you may have to source them elsewhere. Overall, from the companies I looked at, Consolidated Gypsum is the second cheapest after HD, and that is where I ordered my 14' sheets from as well as Denshield tile backer, rest of the drywall was ordered from HD. In total there was something like 320 sheets or so of various lengths, only 57 of them were delivered by Consolidated and staged....leaving the other 250 or so for me and my buddy to hand-bomb around the house....NEVER AGAIN! haha, I saved about $2k in drywall....but had to endure the hardest day of my life...so not sure if it was worth it. Took about 10 hours to move all that around, including bringing 70 sheets upstairs into the loft.


    Here is the drywall on the truck, and then in front of my garage. The first stack in the picture looked like the 3rd stack when we started, didn't take the picture until we moved 50 sheets inside already to stage them for going upstairs..





    And my step/calory/floor count after that day...



    Aside from that got a couple other things done over the last week:

    Got my manifolds installed. They took up more room than anticipated, so had to stagger them like this to make fit and still work with the original plan. Glad I left those pipes extra long!



    Installed some rigid foam insulation around the window openings. This serves dual purpose in my case. 1. Fills in the gap between the framing and the window, which is about an inch in some area, and 2, it adds some insulation to the bottom of the window where they installed a single length of plywood to support the window, providing no space for expanding foam at the bottom. I decided to get this foam installed and caulked around every window, and will have drywall returns everywhere.







    I also decided to install some lighting in the attic, if I ever need to go up there. I had these patio string lights at my existing house that we wouldn't need in the new place, so I repurposed them for general lighting in the attic. Will have them plugged into a switch plug and it should provide sufficient light up there not to die and fall through the drywall. These are 50ft and cover a good portion of my attic.





    And finally, just installed some insulation around where HVAC exits the utility room. Think this is required for fire-code, but it was weird shapes, but I think I did a pretty decent job at not making it look horrible




    That's all for now. Hopefully drywallers will start soon and I will be working on other small things around the house. Think hydronics will be my next big goal.
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    I'm more impressed everyrime I see an update. Honestly, man keep up the good work.

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    I would never do drywall returns in Calgary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arcticcat522 View Post
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    I'm more impressed everyrime I see an update. Honestly, man keep up the good work.
    It’s mighty impressive
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    Quote Originally Posted by eblend View Post
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    Well a little update.

    Yesterday I got drywall delivery, [snip] In total there was something like 320 sheets or so of various lengths, only 57 of them were delivered by Consolidated and staged....leaving the other 250 or so for me and my buddy to hand-bomb around the house....NEVER AGAIN! haha, I saved about $2k in drywall....but had to endure the hardest day of my life...so not sure if it was worth it. Took about 10 hours to move all that around, including bringing 70 sheets upstairs into the loft.
    You've got some solid friends. There is no one on the face of this earth except my wife or kids that I would consider helping hand bomb that much drywall for that long. I hope you at least gave him an over the pants handy and some pizza/beer for that incredible dedication
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    Yeah that's wild haha. I mean I have a friend that I know would help me do it, and I'd do the same for him... but we'd never ask each other to do it haha. That's something for someone that's in their 20s and poor. We'd just complain over beers about the cost of having the supplier do it.

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    I delivered drywall for a couple years between high school and post secondary.
    Unbelievably labour intensive.
    Seeing those piles of drywall gave me mad flashbacks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by suntan View Post
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    I would never do drywall returns in Calgary.
    It wasn't my first choice. I was actually going to do this special mdf returns, but that was through a company I was originally going to use to do my drywall, until they wanted to charge me $85000 to do the drywall on my house......United Drywall that was....huge rip off. I found the new guys via a recommendation from an acquaintance who is also building their own home, and it's getting done for like 40% of that...

    Anyways, as I had to switch plans last minute and don't have time to waste trying to find someone do to those returns, I just decided to do it as drywall and see how it goes. I am hoping with all the efficiency built into the house I will be able to control the moisture that might form on the windows, but we will wait and see. Worst case, if I start seeing something, I will add a thin layer of some plastic or something to prevent water from going onto the drywall. Time will tell. I have cats as well, so they may tare up the drywall return, so may have to do something about it later anyways with the aforementioned plastic.

    Drywall works has started. This weekend I finished the one portion of the garage that I wanted to do myself, due to the metal trim work around the doors + all the garage opener wiring. I got that done, and the drywallers will take over from here and tie it into their work and get it all finished up.



    Metal trim details



    The guys came out on Sunday for about 4 hours, and banged out a big portion of the ceilings across all the bedrooms and some walls as well. The speed these guys more at is impressive, given that it's just two people. They won't be back until Tuesday, but if they are there all day I suspect majority of the main floor will be drywalled by then.






    As for myself, I am going shopping today for copper pipe and all I need to get my hydronics setup. That will be my next big project to work on while these guys are drywalling.

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    Who do you have lined up to do your door trim? He should be able to put in window casings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by suntan View Post
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    Who do you have lined up to do your door trim? He should be able to put in window casings.
    I don't want any trim around the windows. I haven't thought that far regarding trims and everything, got more important things to take care of before I get to that point. I'm up against a deadline now, so kind of have to pick my battles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eblend View Post
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    I don't want any trim around the windows.
    Excellent choice. This is the way.

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    Hi All,

    Just a little update. Drywalling is ongoing, nothing very interesting there. Unfortunately there was an incident where the hole cutting router fell while running at full speed, snapping the bit and sending it straight for my glass panel doors. Shattered the inner glass. I have a quote for a replacement already at ~$750 all in from the same company that built these doors, and the drywall guys will cover it.






    I also finally got around to finishing some soffit work on the house. This one side is about 72' long and had a total of 7 vents for all various ventilations, and 6 lights...and was a complete pain in the ass to do, but it's done! This took a lot of work almost a year ago to make sure everything lines up as it exits the house, as that piping is fully secured in place by spray foam on the inside. Just have to do facia metal still, but it was too windy so I worked on other things inside. Ran out of soffit material for the back of the house, just need like 3 more panels..but gonna order that with special soffit I will be using for front and rear patio.












    Even got these black little plugs for future ethernet wire. The wire itself is attached to this plug in the back, so once I pull the plug, the wire comes out and I can install my cameras when the time comes.



    Also finished soffit on the other side.



    I started working on building out my hydronics system yesterday. First time ever soldering, and I am pleased with my results, they look pretty good I think for a first timer. Also bought all my glycol while I was at the supply house.



    Used these toilet brackets and repurposed them to support the 2 3/4" remote manifold pipes, think that came out pretty good.


















    I should have all hydronics soldered and hooked up by end of the week, will take some shots then. Should look pretty good I think.

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    Soldering looks good, I'll put you to work building my next still.
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    Your attention to detail is incredible. If you want a line on the finish carpenter I used for water-resistant MDF window casings, DM me, I can connect you. He was awesome.

    Plumbing for the hydronics is looking amazing

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    That looks like an expensive pile of glycol, oof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prae View Post
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    That looks like an expensive pile of glycol, oof.
    I bought 160L of 35% mix, you can get it cheaper if you buy 100% glycol and mix it yourself, but I didn't want to bother. BA Robinson is an awesome supply house for all things plumbing and hydronics, and HVAC. I have been using them, and they gave me great pricing, despite not being a contractor. Glycol was $79 per 20L bucket, so about $630 worth. It should be enough based on my loop calcs..but I might need to grab another bucket at the end. I do have a self-feeder tank, and need to keep solution in it, so will see how much I need and grab more later.

    Yesterday night I got the call that almost changed my life. My neighbor who is also getting a house built nearby got a call from his neighbor...saying there is a fire at the house behind his.....so I got a phone call and my neighbor asking me if I was still working on the house...and that he got a report that MY house is on fire. I nearly had a heart attack...my heart went racing as I opened up my 3G camera app that's mounted on the pole that has the view of my entire house....and there was no fire! The other guy next door runs a business and he was burning a large pile of pallets in his back yard as he does every once in a while, but that's easily 500ft away from my house. I guess with the angle or whatever, it might have looked like it was coming from my house area. I saw that fire going when I left, and it was a pretty big one with some black smoke too..but it was also raining so I wasn't too concerned...but still. It took me a good 10 min for my heart rate to drop back down to normal...but wife suggested we go and take a look anyways, so late at night we drove out and took a look. She hasn't been there for a few months so it was good opportunity for her to see the progress as well, and I snapped some pictures of the outdoor lights in the dark, as I am usually not there that late.

    So here are the lights and a few other random pics of the drywall progress. The pink insulation is sound barrier kind from Roxul, not sure if it does much, but it was cheap enough and can't hurt around the few areas that isolate the office/bedrooms/bathroom from the rest of the space. Also included a picture of a drywaller's dog. I meant to post it last time but forgot.











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    Holy shit that would be super scary. Glad everything turned out okay.
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