Idle No More protests target bridges, roads across Canada

[Darell_n]

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The word genocide has lost all meaning. If Canada was implementing genocide, there would be no indigenous people left to complain.

I think you are giving our genocide sector too much credit. They are way behind the times.

[killramos]

Yea our government sucks at doing everything else, why do we assume they would be good at genociding?

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[msommers]

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The word genocide has lost all meaning. If Canada was implementing genocide, there would be no indigenous people left to complain.

Uhh...

https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.shtml

[Darell_n]

UN has a very genofluid definition, but the first line that stands out to me is ‘with intent’. I’m sure no modern Canadian government had the intent of destroying all the natives, it just was a happy accident. So we’re all good then.

[Cagare]

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The word genocide has lost all meaning. If Canada was implementing genocide, there would be no indigenous people left to complain.

Incompetent genocide

[ThePenIsMightier]

Did you just assume genocide?

[Cash Money Hoes]

The only solution is for all Canadians to identify as first peoples. I'm currently doing genealogical search to locate some indian in my ancestry so I can get in on the action. If you cant beat them, join them.

[Misterman]

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The only solution is for all Canadians to identify as first peoples. I'm currently doing genealogical search to locate some indian in my ancestry so I can get in on the action. If you cant beat them, join them.

Be great if this was possible. How is it they're able to say that Metis have full rights now, when people with real Bush Ninja blood in their line, can't get status? My great great grandfather from my Mom's Mom, is full Cherokee Indian. Pretty sure when my Mom looked into it, she basically got told there's no way. But if your ancient french grandparents had an orgy with some Squaw, boom, you're golden.

[gwill]

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The only solution is for all Canadians to identify as first peoples. I'm currently doing genealogical search to locate some indian in my ancestry so I can get in on the action. If you cant beat them, join them.

I assume your in alberta? Are you hoping for metis heritage or full blown status? If your in alberta what advantage do you think you'll get?

There are clear advantages in Ontario, quebec and the maritimes but in alberta it's a big crap shoot.

[Tik-Tok]

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The only solution is for all Canadians to identify as first peoples. I'm currently doing genealogical search to locate some indian in my ancestry so I can get in on the action. If you cant beat them, join them.

That sounds like a lot of effort. Just tell everyone you're part FN, like Dani Smith.

[Darell_n]

I’ve had several aunts and uncles do the dna test thing. They all original from Quebec and came back with 0% native blood. I was lè shocked. All the boys had a native girl hidden away somewhere, back then. Guess I’ll have to wait out for some Ukrainian benefits instead.

[gwill]

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The only solution is for all Canadians to identify as first peoples. I'm currently doing genealogical search to locate some indian in my ancestry so I can get in on the action. If you cant beat them, join them.

Would love to hear what sort of advantage you think you may get in alberta.

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Be great if this was possible. How is it they're able to say that Metis have full rights now, when people with real Bush Ninja blood in their line, can't get status? My great great grandfather from my Mom's Mom, is full Cherokee Indian. Pretty sure when my Mom looked into it, she basically got told there's no way. But if your ancient french grandparents had an orgy with some Squaw, boom, you're golden.

Rules for status have changed quite a bit over the last 20 to 30 years. A reserve would happily assist you with things if your ancestors were born and raised on a specific reserve.

And for the record metis are considered the same as an Indian as per the court of law but they have far less rights then a true status Indian. No health care, no dental, significantly less hunting rights, no tax exemptions etc etc etc.

[Darkane]

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Would love to hear what sort of advantage you think you may get in alberta.



Rules for status have changed quite a bit over the last 20 to 30 years. A reserve would happily assist you with things if your ancestors were born and raised on a specific reserve.

And for the record metis are considered the same as an Indian as per the court of law but they have far less rights then a true status Indian. No health care, no dental, significantly less hunting rights, no tax exemptions etc etc etc.

Well… what about open claims about status when applying for work? And specifically tugging the DIB strings?

We hear about that, does it work?

[davidI]

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Would love to hear what sort of advantage you think you may get in alberta.

The Alberta Indian Tax Exemption (AITE) program consists of:

• An exemption from taxes and levies for eligible consumers and bands at the time of purchase on:
  
  • fuel products purchased on reserve in Alberta or delivered to reserve
  • tobacco products purchased on reserve in Alberta
  • accommodation purchased on reserve in Alberta
  
  
• A refund of the Alberta fuel tax to fuel sellers when the fuel is sold or delivered to eligible consumers on reserve in Alberta.
• A refund of the Alberta tobacco tax on tobacco products sold by retailers to eligible consumers on reserve in Alberta.
• A refund of the Alberta tourism levy to operators that provide accommodation on reserve to eligible consumers.
• Information for tobacco wholesalers and fuel suppliers that provide products to registered retailers making tax-exempt sales to eligible consumers.

[gwill]

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Well… what about open claims about status when applying for work? And specifically tugging the DIB strings?

We hear about that, does it work?

I assume that's where he was going with things. What are the rules for an employer if someone posts their heritage/status on their job app? Can a potential employer ask questions? I can think of 20 different questions one could use to sniff out a liar on their job application.

Wouldn't it be easier to say your non binary then pretend to be metis/status Indian and not be able to answer questions during your interview?

Now if he's a sub contractor wanting preferential treatment on bids, he's going to need more then a DNA test. Still think it's easier for him to have an lgbtq+ owner/partner if that's the route he's trying as well.

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The Alberta Indian Tax Exemption (AITE) program consists of:

• An exemption from taxes and levies for eligible consumers and bands at the time of purchase on:
  
  • fuel products purchased on reserve in Alberta or delivered to reserve
  • tobacco products purchased on reserve in Alberta
  • accommodation purchased on reserve in Alberta
  
  
• A refund of the Alberta fuel tax to fuel sellers when the fuel is sold or delivered to eligible consumers on reserve in Alberta.
• A refund of the Alberta tobacco tax on tobacco products sold by retailers to eligible consumers on reserve in Alberta.
• A refund of the Alberta tourism levy to operators that provide accommodation on reserve to eligible consumers.
• Information for tobacco wholesalers and fuel suppliers that provide products to registered retailers making tax-exempt sales to eligible consumers.

I'm going to guess someone doing a blood DNA test to sort out past Indian heritage isn't going to get full status to qualify for some savings on gas/tobacco. Right now gas savings on a reserve is 5% gst as the Alberta government has already reduced the gas tax.

There are potential tax savings for indigenous owned businesses but the rules are not easy for most to follow. For example 2 accountants I've dealt with over 20 years refused to assist me with a potential business/industry I'm looking at getting into. A 3rd one who handles a bunch of my buddies business has things sorted out but it's complicated.

It comes across as though I should be prepared to be audited constantly if I want to take advantage of some of the potential tax exemptions.

[vengie]

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The Alberta Indian Tax Exemption (AITE) program consists of:

• An exemption from taxes and levies for eligible consumers and bands at the time of purchase on:
  
  • fuel products purchased on reserve in Alberta or delivered to reserve
  • tobacco products purchased on reserve in Alberta
  • accommodation purchased on reserve in Alberta
  
  
• A refund of the Alberta fuel tax to fuel sellers when the fuel is sold or delivered to eligible consumers on reserve in Alberta.
• A refund of the Alberta tobacco tax on tobacco products sold by retailers to eligible consumers on reserve in Alberta.
• A refund of the Alberta tourism levy to operators that provide accommodation on reserve to eligible consumers.
• Information for tobacco wholesalers and fuel suppliers that provide products to registered retailers making tax-exempt sales to eligible consumers.

None of these things apply to Alberta Metis.

[davidI]

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None of these things apply to Alberta Metis.

Why not?

https://www.sac-isc.gc.ca/eng/146280.../1572460627149

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I think there's a big disconnect between what folks think we spend on "native supports and stuff" and how much benefit any individual native is getting.

Lot of reasons for that, but it's an important distinction.

[gwill]

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Why not?

https://www.sac-isc.gc.ca/eng/146280.../1572460627149

Metis "indians" until recently have not been considered the same as a status Indian. There's been a few court cases to clarify this so they are now considered the same but as of today not much has changed in relation to different rights that are provided under the Indian act to a full status Indian.

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I think there's a big disconnect between what folks think we spend on "native supports and stuff" and how much benefit any individual native is getting.

Lot of reasons for that, but it's an important distinction.

It's why I was wondering what additional benefits the one user thinks he will get. Maybe some help on a job app(assuming they don't question him/her), maybe some extra help on bidding on jobs(assuming they don't question him/her) and Maybe some funding for a business(again assuming they don't question him which is extremely unlikely).

In Ont, quebec and Atlantic you can get tax exemptions at the till anywhere you shop. In alberta it's not setup that way.

My co worker the other day thought I didn't pay taxes.