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    You have got to be kidding me...

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle2159136/

    Mr. Andrews, a senior analyst in the Department of Citizenship and Immigration, spent more than half his working day trolling news and sports websites from his desk in Ottawa and downloading more than 300 pornographic photos. The department fired him in 2009, alleging he committed “time theft” by claiming pay for time not worked. The government hoped to make an example of Mr. Andrews and wanted to set a precedent for other bureaucrats who waste time online.

    Mr. Andrews, who has been with the government for 27 years, fought back. He appealed to the Public Service Labour Relations Board and demanded his job back.

    During a hearing, Mr. Andrews acknowledged surfing the Net extensively, and he apologized for downloading porn. But he said he wasn’t given enough work to keep him busy and he got bored. He told the tribunal he met every deadline, received positive work appraisals and had never been chastised by managers for perusing the Net too much.

    Richard Fader, a lawyer representing the department, argued Mr. Andrews should have asked for more work. “In this case, the evidence showed that [Mr. Andrews] sat at a desk surfing the Internet for half the day, day after day and month after month, claiming pay for time not worked, which was as fraudulent as falsifying a time card,” Mr. Fader argued.

    Adjudicator Kate Rogers disagreed. In a ruling released last month, Ms. Rogers said Mr. Andrews had violated federal employment policies by downloading porn, but he had not committed “time theft” by surfing the Net most of the day. She said a long suspension was a more appropriate sanction, and she ordered the department to reinstate Mr. Andrews immediately.

    “Is excessive use of the employer’s Internet services for non-work-related purposes the same offence as time theft? I do not believe so,” Ms. Rogers ruled. “I agree with [Mr. Andrews] that time theft as it is generally understood involves an overtly fraudulent act, such as altering a time card, having employees punch in for each other or failing to record or falsely recording attendance on an attendance management system.”

    She added that “there can be no mistaking the intent to steal time when an employee has another employee punch his or her time card. But in an environment in which personal use of the employer’s Internet services is permissible on an employee’s own time and in which employees do not punch time cards or actively record their working hours, it becomes much more difficult to infer the requisite intent for a charge of time theft. I simply do not see excessive use of the employer’s Internet services for non-work-related purposes as the beginning of a continuum that ends with time theft.”

    Ms. Rogers added that while Mr. Andrews had a responsibility to seek out more work, she found it “surprising that an employee could spend the amount of time that [Mr. Andrews] did on non-work-related activities for months without his supervisors noting a lack of production or engagement.”


    Being in IT, the big issue here is that most of the malware and virus applications out there are transmitted via porn sites. With all the recent hacks that the government has fell victim to I'm surprised that security was not the main reason they sacked him. He put the government systems at risk, especially considering he has a “senior" title and would likely have access to more sensitive data than other employees. That’s why my company blocks and monitors porn sites and the internet....security. I don't care if someone does nothing all day but don't put my network at risk so you can look at boobies.

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    Originally posted by frizzlefry


    Being in IT, the big issue here is that most of the malware and virus applications out there are transmitted via porn sites. With all the recent hacks that the government has fell victim to I'm surprised that security was not the main reason they sacked him. He put the government systems at risk, especially considering he has a “senior" title and would likely have access to more sensitive data than other employees. That’s why my company blocks and monitors porn sites and the internet....security. I don't care if someone does nothing all day but don't put my network at risk so you can look at boobies.
    Really?

    Being in IT, you should know that the real reason that companies block porn and boobies has nothing to do with security. That malware and virii infect porn sites is sometimes true, but the reason behind that is because of the volume of hits. The writers of that crap go where the volume is.. if it was in slashdot and gizmodo, you'd see far more vectored infections from there. As far as protecting your network, that's a pretty minimal cost.

    The true reason is liability. The last thing a company wants is to be drawn into the press because someone charges them with sexual harassment or some other nasty ass charge that the media WILL have a field day with. Since the employer is the one charged for these types of issues, they're the ones on the hook for hundreds of thousands in legal fees, lost wages, punitive damages, possible criminal charges etc..

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    Being in IT, the big issue here is that most of the malware and virus applications out there are transmitted via porn sites.
    Nope.

    Infections via Facebook are far more prevalent.

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    If you go to any porn site, you'll have prolly 50-60 p0rnographic images on the first page. 300 is nothing... One or two visits.

    If the guy had nothing to do at work, I don't see the issue with him surfing the net... He's there to do a specific job; as long as that's done well and on time, I don't see why he should just sit there and beat his head into the desk due to boredom...

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    Originally posted by Seth1968


    Nope.

    Infections via Facebook are far more prevalent.
    I would agree but the reason for facebook being more dangerous is people seem to think facebook is safe and porn sites are dangerous. So people (with half a brain) will avoid porn sites and not think twice about facebook. Hence facebook is more of a threat as people will more freely visit it and play the apps (and the apps are really what’s dangerous on FB). But if people visited porn sites like they visit facebook you would see porn being responsible for 80% of the world's infections. I would, as would most IT depts, LOVE to block facebook at work but because of the perception that its somehow “safe” there is so much pushback from users (and managers) that it’s hard to block it without major backlash.

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    Originally posted by Feruk
    If you go to any porn site, you'll have prolly 50-60 p0rnographic images on the first page. 300 is nothing... One or two visits.

    If the guy had nothing to do at work, I don't see the issue with him surfing the net... He's there to do a specific job; as long as that's done well and on time, I don't see why he should just sit there and beat his head into the desk due to boredom...
    He admitted to spending a lot of time downloading porn. Security/company liability aside, who enjoys porn by simply viewing it? He was certainly..."exercising" his enjoyment of it at some point. Having a wank in the office, which MUST have happened at least once, should surely be enough to sack someone without having to defend the firing.

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    Had they fired him for violating policy opposed to "time theft", he would have stayed fired.

    Well, he gets to go back to his 4 hr work day and collect an envious pension.

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    and i find myself on beyond, trollin' the super Jailbait Thread...

    I finished my work for the day though
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    No wonder immigration takes so god damn long. Bastards are busy fapping.

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