Turbo Type R!

[ls/vtec-crx]

Putting in my turbo right now and hopefully it should done by tonight or tomorrow. I can't wait to hear my open wastegate and HKS B.O.V.

[shadowz]

MAn youre nuts its snowy I'll KILL YOU!! LOL

[ecstasy_civic]

thtas gonna be nuts:nut: :clap:

i definatley wanna hear and see this car:love:

[D-MON]

Yea that heezzy should be hella fast:bigpimp:. But the driver might need some work! heh heh J/K:D

[redline_13000]

damn it should be great, did u just start the install?

[mrmattyk]

I dunno man. I like ITR's but doesn't the LS turbo'd fair better than a b18c5 turbo'd?

Don't mean to rag on your car dude, it's just the LS has more displacement.

[GTS Jeff]

Originally posted by mrmattyk
it's just the LS has more displacement. no it doesnt.

some ppl prefer using the ls block cuz its lower compression and certain internals are stronger. :dunno:

anyway, a b18c would make more power than a b18b under the same amount of boost cuz of the vtec

[Sykes]

Originally posted by Jeff TYPE R
no it doesnt.

some ppl prefer using the ls block cuz its lower compression and certain internals are stronger. :dunno:

anyway, a b18c would make more power than a b18b under the same amount of boost cuz of the vtec

:werd:

[ConVict]

Jesus I wish ALL turbo projects could be done in one night:banghead: Good luck bud, hope you like the feel of F/I

[ls/vtec-crx]

Originally posted by mrmattyk
I dunno man. I like ITR's but doesn't the LS turbo'd fair better than a b18c5 turbo'd?

Don't mean to rag on your car dude, it's just the LS has more displacement.

Were hoping to make 300whp so we'll see what happens. But besides that the B18C5 turbo will make more power than the B18 turbo same displacement but two totally different heads and higher compression on the B18C5.

[LUDELVR]

Originally posted by ls/vtec-crx

and higher compression on the B18C5.

And what have you done to the compression of the b18c5? Thicker head gasket? Keeping it stock!! :eek: haha, just curious man!

[GTS Jeff]

Originally posted by LUDELVR


And what have you done to the compression of the b18c5? Thicker head gasket? Keeping it stock!! :eek: haha, just curious man! higher compression = more power!:drool:

[SilverRex]

nice.. so how much did it cost you for the whole turbo thing..? did u install everything yourself..

[D-MON]

Originally posted by LUDELVR


And what have you done to the compression of the b18c5? Thicker head gasket? Keeping it stock!! :eek: haha, just curious man!

Yea man you should see the size of his head gasket!! 3mm copper!:eek:
F*cking huge dude!

[D-MON]

Originally posted by SilverRex
nice.. so how much did it cost you for the whole turbo thing..? did u install everything yourself..

Yea man everything himself! Almost done too. Definately be done by tonight!:thumbsup: :drool: Looks soo good.

[LUDELVR]

Originally posted by Jeff TYPE R
higher compression = more power!:drool:

Higher compression + higher boost levels = :banghead: :banghead:

But yah, more power = :drool: :drool:

hahahah

[LUDELVR]

what kit is on there anyway?

[B18C]

ls/vtec-crx: Check your PM's for me please.

The B18b does have a slightly higher displacement but the difference is soooooo small that it is negligible.

[GTS Jeff]

Originally posted by B18C
The B18b does have a slightly higher displacement but the difference is soooooo small that it is negligible. is that from the lower compression?

[syeve]

Nelson says that he can tune a stock type-r to 330 WHP...it is a very strong bottom end tougher to tune cause of the compression...less room for mistakes. I had that exact head gasket on my old civic...made me bullet proof.

[Fuji]

Originally posted by D-MON


Yea man you should see the size of his head gasket!! 3mm copper!:eek:
F*cking huge dude!

Shouldn't a thicker head gasket reduce compression????

If not why? Just curious.

[B18C]

Originally posted by Jeff TYPE R
is that from the lower compression?

b18b: 1834cc
b18c5: 1797cc

so the b18b has a minute 37cc more displacement.

[ls/vtec-crx]

Originally posted by Fuji


Shouldn't a thicker head gasket reduce compression????

If not why? Just curious.

The 3mm Copper head Gasket should bring the compression down about 3 to 5 points. So instead of 10.5:1 it will be at the lowest 10.0:1.

But my kit I'm doing my self with alittle help and pretty much everything cost me about $4500.00 all said and done and that includes:

Drag Manifold (Ceramic Coated)
Turbonetics T3/T04E Turbo
Tial 35mm Wastegate
Drag Down Pipe
Apex'i Silvia Intercooler
HKS SSQ B.O.V
Charge Piping
Hondata Stage 4B
SCE Copper Head Gasket
Mr.Gasket Exhuast Gasket
FAL Slim Fan

And ya there's much more to the list but I'll show you guys at the meet when it is nice out again.

[2000impreza]

nice setup man.... haha :thumbsup:

so many turbo cars this comming up season.... :burnout:

[Superesc]

Sweet ! Can't wait to see it !!!!

[syeve]

where did you get that intercooler?

[Hollywood]

Originally posted by Fuji


Shouldn't a thicker head gasket reduce compression????

If not why? Just curious.

I'm not dogging the setup, I'm sure others use and it's fine. But just as info for others, adding a thicker head gasket will reduce your compression but in a bad way if too extreme, and if your car is turbo the effects are worse and make you even more prone to detination because you reducing your quench area.

I'm not sure what the stock headgasket size so I cannont compare for the difference, but 3mm sounds big so far.

[Fuji]

Ok I was under the impression that someone had said a thicker head gasket incrases compression which would be good for a turbo setup -- I know that is wrong thats why I asked if I was misinformed about this issue.

Thanks conv..... er I mean Hollywood....:)

[90_Shelby]

Originally posted by Hollywood


I'm not dogging the setup, I'm sure others use and it's fine. But just as info for others, adding a thicker head gasket will reduce your compression but in a bad way if too extreme, and if your car is turbo the effects are worse and make you even more prone to detination because you reducing your quench area.

I'm not sure what the stock headgasket size so I cannont compare for the difference, but 3mm sounds big so far.



Yes this is true, an increase in quench will make an engine more susceptible to detonation but it will be safer than a higher compression and easier to tune for optimum power, you just have to add more fuel. Hondas are very effecient as is and the loss of quench is negligible.

On my 2.5 I run 25psi and 8:1 on pump gas, the pistons are .200" down the hole. Very poor design and noneffecient, but it works............ with lots of fuel.


P.S. Turbo ITR, Very Cool:thumbsup: I'll look forward to running you in the spring.:poosie: ;) :D

[Hollywood]

Originally posted by 90_Shelby


P.S. Turbo ITR, Very Cool:thumbsup: I'll look forward to running you in the spring.:poosie: ;) :D

Hehehehe.

[XylathaneGTR]

The B18C5 is the pinnacle of Naturally Asperated Tuning.
Because of the high ass stock compression, its usually not the first choice for Forced Induction app's (thats where the b18b was mentioned) Cause yeah, that can cause a few headaches, and you'll need pretty precise mangement and everything.

That's ganna be hellla hella sweet when its done...
Piiics!

[szw]

Originally posted by XylathaneGTR
The B18C5 is the pinnacle of Naturally Asperated Tuning.
Because of the high ass stock compression, its usually not the first choice for Forced Induction app's (thats where the b18b was mentioned) Cause yeah, that can cause a few headaches, and you'll need pretty precise mangement and everything.


who are you talking to?? haha

[m@+CH]

nice ncie !!
in a type R
wut turbo is it??
mitsu or garret??

[lammer]

Originally posted by m@+CH
nice ncie !!
in a type R
wut turbo is it??
mitsu or garret??



Originally posted by ls/vtec-crx


The 3mm Copper head Gasket should bring the compression down about 3 to 5 points. So instead of 10.5:1 it will be at the lowest 10.0:1.

But my kit I'm doing my self with alittle help and pretty much everything cost me about $4500.00 all said and done and that includes:

Drag Manifold (Ceramic Coated)
Turbonetics T3/T04E Turbo
Tial 35mm Wastegate
Drag Down Pipe
Apex'i Silvia Intercooler
HKS SSQ B.O.V
Charge Piping
Hondata Stage 4B
SCE Copper Head Gasket
Mr.Gasket Exhuast Gasket
FAL Slim Fan

And ya there's much more to the list but I'll show you guys at the meet when it is nice out again.

[SilverStreak]

Originally posted by XylathaneGTR
The B18C5 is the pinnacle of Naturally Asperated Tuning.



I beg to differ, something called the F20C perhaps :D

[GTS Jeff]

Originally posted by SilverStreak


I beg to differ, something called the F20C perhaps :D k20a5.

altho the f20c WAS a good prototype to the K series :)

[Ed the SOHC]

holy shit! nice... good luck. I can't wait to see it run next year at SS.

[Hollywood]

Originally posted by Ed the SOHC
holy shit! nice... good luck. I can't wait to see it run next year at SS.

Yes it should be interesting, especially since it has an lsd to help out over most FWD "tuned" hondas.

[ls/vtec-crx]

Originally posted by syeve
where did you get that intercooler?

It's your old one. It's been around but it looks like it's brand new. So when are we doing yours Sir Steve. HEHEHEHE.

Hey 90_Shelby make sure to have the dyno ready for me cause i hopefully want to see something over 300whp.

I'm almost done just have to plum in the oil drain and put the down on and we'll see what happens i'll keep you guys updated.

[Illusionsir]

Originally posted by D-MON
Yea that heezzy should be hella fast:bigpimp:. But the driver might need some work! heh heh J/K:D

You need some work White Boi. :rofl:


Alan, Cant wait to see that! its gonna be NUTZ!

[Redlyne_mr2]

What are the limitations of the ITR tranny? Do you think it will stand up to 300whp?
Props to you man..turbo ITR's are few and far between!

[90_Shelby]

It's usually torque that kills trannies. Oh yeah and hard launches on slicks. It should be fine.

[ls/vtec-crx]

Originally posted by Redlyne_mr2
What are the limitations of the ITR tranny? Do you think it will stand up to 300whp?
Props to you man..turbo ITR's are few and far between!

Anything over 350whp and then i'll start to worry cause that's when you start breaking everything.

[Voodoo Child]

Well look who it is! The IDEA stealer!;)
Next Al will be dying his sking and calling himself Nate...my god!

So the Turbo whore is in hey....hmmm....do you want me to drive the beast this summer so you can claim your car is the fastest ITR! HAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA!
0.05 RULES!

300whp is a realistic goal. Anything more and the boost will be too high. No more than 8 lbs. my friend....trust me on this one!

Don't scratch your pretty paint job Al!


:thumbsup:

[Speed_RaSiR]

Holy fack doode, your car is gonna haul azz! When you hit 5600 RPM your gonna travel through time! :rofl:

[mrmattyk]

Originally posted by 2000impreza
nice setup man.... haha :thumbsup:

so many turbo cars this comming up season.... :burnout:

I wonder if anyone is supercharging :dunno:

[D-MON]

Originally posted by Illusionsir


You need some work White Boi. :rofl:


I have a feeling that your order wont be in for a couple of weeks!!
heh heh j/k

[D-MON]

Originally posted by Voodoo Child

300whp is a realistic goal. Anything more and the boost will be too high. No more than 8 lbs. my friend....trust me on this one!


8 lbs.? NAAAAWWW Go big or go home Al. Nate's just choked that the difference between the two cars will no longer be 0.05 in his favour, but 2.05 in yours. heh heh :rofl: J/k Nate, us white boys gotta stick together!:thumbsup:

[Voodoo Child]

Originally posted by D-MON


8 lbs.? NAAAAWWW Go big or go home Al. Nate's just choked that the difference between the two cars will no longer be 0.05 in his favour, but 2.05 in yours. heh heh :rofl: J/k Nate, us white boys gotta stick together!:thumbsup:

You're damn right I'm going to be a jealous white boy when the Mugen R is infront of the C-West R!

But then again, that's why they invented sawed-off shotguns!

And anything over 8lbs...and all we will be smelling is yummy melted Type R pistons...:nut:

[THREE40SEVEN]

You and i have a date at the track ;) Im curious to see how she works. What are you using for engine managment?
Good luck!

[Superesc]

Originally posted by THREE40SEVEN
YWhat are you using for engine managment?

My bet is on Hondata.

[D-MON]

Originally posted by Superesc


My bet is on Hondata.

Bingo!!:thumbsup:

[D-MON]

Originally posted by ls/vtec-crx



Drag Manifold (Ceramic Coated)
Turbonetics T3/T04E Turbo
Tial 35mm Wastegate
Drag Down Pipe
Apex'i Silvia Intercooler
HKS SSQ B.O.V
Charge Piping
****Hondata Stage 4B****
SCE Copper Head Gasket
Mr.Gasket Exhuast Gasket
FAL Slim Fan

And ya there's much more to the list but I'll show you guys at the meet when it is nice out again.

[ls/vtec-crx]

Originally posted by Voodoo Child


You're damn right I'm going to be a jealous white boy when the Mugen R is infront of the C-West R!

But then again, that's why they invented sawed-off shotguns!

And anything over 8lbs...and all we will be smelling is yummy melted Type R pistons...:nut:

HAHAHA!
And that's why they invented bullet proof type r's!! (ya right)

[Illusionsir]

Originally posted by D-MON is Gay


I have a feeling that your order wont be in for a couple of weeks!!
heh heh j/k


oohhhh thats low!! all i have to say is :poosie: !

[D-MON]

Your deposit is ready to be picked up!:thumbsup: Minus of course the 25% re-stocking fee!

[Illusionsir]

Originally posted by D-MON
Your deposit is ready to be picked up!:thumbsup:

DAMN!! :guns: :guns:

[nookmumracing]

You the baddest Chicano in the barrio, look forward to seeing the car with everything in it. You going to post any pics or just let it ride till the WoW.
Saw a JDM Type-R at Crowfoot YMCA Yesterday. Got to love that face....

[Voodoo Child]

Thanks nookmum, that was me.

[ls/vtec-crx]

Originally posted by nookmumracing
You the baddest Chicano in the barrio, look forward to seeing the car with everything in it. You going to post any pics or just let it ride till the WoW.
Saw a JDM Type-R at Crowfoot YMCA Yesterday. Got to love that face....

Yeah i'll definately post some pics when it is done. How's your car doin? Anything new? That other one you seen was pretty ugly and slow. HEHEHE J/K Nate.

[Voodoo Child]

1 INCH Punch AL!

Right between the head gasket!

[D-MON]

:rofl: bbbwwwaaahhhhahhhahhhahh :rofl:

[Madspinner]

Damn ,can't wait to see the turbo set up
JDM conversion + Turbo setup=1 sweet ass car .

[Mikko]

Toooooorque steeeeeeeer!

[szw]

I embrace and love torque steer!

[XylathaneGTR]

Szw: I was just saying...
And the B18C5 at least WAS the pinnacle of Naturally Asperated tuning, at the time of its creation (As the Integra Type R showed up in japan around 94 or 95 i believe...) It might not be now...but still.


Thats an awesome car your building man.
I r want pics.
I used to want a Type R so badly, but yeah, sooo expensive. everytime i see one, Stock or modified, i feel so jealous, There's always a CW stock Type R around brentwood. blargh

Nice car you got going.

[syeve]

Originally posted by Mikko
Toooooorque steeeeeeeer!

not with LSD...brad has 500 WHP and has no torque steer.

[Fuji]

Originally posted by syeve


not with LSD...brad has 500 WHP and has no torque steer.

I have to disagree with that... altough I have never seen his car. If you drive a Spec V (has LSD) or Corrado the torque steer is pretty pronounced. I would expect the 500HP prelude to have some pretty good torque steer if you got on the gas hard in the corner. It's reduced when you have LSD, but it is still there.

[Hollywood]

FWD + PWR = Touque steer.

Any hint of the alignment being off, will give you instant torque steer.

[syeve]

nope, he had no torque steer, with LSD one tire would not pull more than another and of one slips the other will take over. He has tonnes of torque and he says that he could drive it down the track with one hand.
In the corners I have no idea, its quite possible that with too much power he will just plow through corners, torque steer on my old turbo civic was almost unmanageable (no LSD) on the straights adn in the turns.

[Mikko]

I believe torque steer is related to the steering geometry, isn't it? And civics in general don't have a good steering geometry from what I hear, especially the latest platform.

[jdmakkord]

it isn't a civic

[90_Shelby]

Originally posted by Hollywood
FWD + PWR = Touque steer.

Any hint of the alignment being off, will give you instant torque steer.


I agree with this. LSD or not there are still chances of torque steer.

[B18C]

Man I have an LSD and not even half the power Brad has and I can get some bad torque steer going around a corner

[GTS Jeff]

Originally posted by szw
I embrace and love torque steer!



Originally posted by syeve


not with LSD...brad has 500 WHP and has no torque steer.

fooooools not all LSDs are made the same!



Originally posted by Mikko
I believe torque steer is related to the steering geometry, isn't it? And civics in general don't have a good steering geometry from what I hear, especially the latest platform.

its more related to the diff. it sends power thru the path of least resistance, like the inside wheel when cornering hard, or when one axle is longer than the other.

[Hollywood]

Originally posted by Jeff TYPE R

fooooools not all LSDs are made the same!


Jeff I know this. I am no fool. The type R if i can remember has a helical LSD, which is a mechanical type, similair to my viscous type but better.

Any FWD is subject to torque steer and the specific FWD wheel hop, that's why RWD dominate in drag events. Shit they even changed the rules in pro FWD drag because people were doing the halfcut metheod, in which in this case they took a cavalier and tuned it into RWD but taking on weight penalties (supposed to be a disadvantage)...the RWD half cut cavalier dominated the FWD drags so bad that the had to make new rules.

[ls/vtec-crx]

Hey does anyone have a Integra LS,RS,GS cold air intake that they want to get rid of. It's the only thing i'm missing and everything is done please need help to find this. Must drive car.

[Voodoo Child]

I have one, you can't have it!

[ls/vtec-crx]

Originally posted by Voodoo Child
I have one, you can't have it!

Your dead! 1 inch head butt to the nose!

[Daddymax]

somebody give him one!

[Hipermax_d]

you can be just like the team SSR with the integra turbo from initial d :D

[nookmumracing]

My ride is in disconnect battery mode sitting on winter rubbers. Have a front end and some other body parts coming but won't get it painted till later, you got hook ups?
Seems like there is a crew of JDM faced Type-R's in town. Always a head turner when you see one cruizing around.........even cooler when you hear a turkey sound coming out of the bonnet.

[Superesc]

Originally posted by nookmumracing
Seems like there is a crew of JDM faced Type-R's in town. Always a head turner when you see one cruizing around.........even cooler when you hear a turkey sound coming out of the bonnet.

Sweeet!!! Wish I can see more of them!!!!

[Ed the SOHC]

Originally posted by Superesc


Sweeet!!! Wish I can see more of them!!!!

*note to self* Check garage. :nut:

[Superesc]

Originally posted by Ed the SOHC


*note to self* Check garage. :nut:

haha garage is empty dude!!!!! :dunno:

[Ed the SOHC]

Originally posted by Superesc


haha garage is empty dude!!!!! :dunno:

checkmate...


my bad.:D

[Superesc]

Originally posted by Ed the SOHC


checkmate...


my bad.:D


hahaha no worry, once its back in the garage I will let you know hehehe :D

[ls/vtec-crx]

Is your front end getting put on right now? Is Gerry doing it?

[Superesc]

Yup, but its getting put on by a friend of Legendboy. Hopefully it will be done in 2 weeks or so :D

[THREE40SEVEN]

Originally posted by nookmumracing
.........even cooler when you hear a turkey sound coming out of the bonnet.
You installed a turkey?;) Where can i get one?

[Hollywood]

Originally posted by ls/vtec-crx
Hey does anyone have a Integra LS,RS,GS cold air intake that they want to get rid of. It's the only thing i'm missing and everything is done please need help to find this. Must drive car.

Speedville has a AEM cold air intake for delsol b16a, brand new, in stock, if that helps at all.

[Daddymax]

I dont' think he wanted to buy one.....

[D-MON]

He found one!!!!!!
SWWWEEEETTTTT!!!!:clap:

[ls/vtec-crx]

The car will finally be running tonight and i will be doing some tuning on the road so watch out for me!

[THREE40SEVEN]

Originally posted by ls/vtec-crx
The car will finally be running tonight and i will be doing some tuning on the road so watch out for me!
Who's tuning your car?

[D-MON]

Al and Nelson are tuning it tonight!!!!
Once again.............
SSSWWWEEETTTT!!!!:drool: :clap:

[THREE40SEVEN]

At dynomotive?

[cocoabrova]

Originally posted by ls/vtec-crx
The car will finally be running tonight and i will be doing some tuning on the road so watch out for me! :eek:
Good luck with the butt-dynoing:thumbsup: Are you going to the Beyond Dyno Day?

[THREE40SEVEN]

I hope you have an egt and/or a wide band..
If you're not, why spend all that time and money to risk blowing it up? I'd definately spend a couple hours with toma and get her dialed in.....
.02

[D-MON]

He's generally tuning it with hondata for tonight and then he's gonna dyno tune it as soon as he can.