how fast are v6 stangs?

[EstoMax]

my friend said he wants to get a v6 stang (3000 lbs, 145hp, 215 tq) and says it will beat my moms subaru impreza wagon(2800 lbs, 142hp, 149tq,)
subaru would win a v6 stang right? i heard their really slow..

max

[Glowrider]

They aren't fast. They are infact horribly slow. But then again, Subaru Wagon's aren't all that fast either. Only one way to find out who would win that race.

[szw]

I'd place my bet on the mustang, auto or not.

[Fuji]

me too. I drive the impreza RS (167HP, 165TQ) and it's pretty close between me and the base stang.

[three.eighteen.]

i htuoght the v6 stangs were 195hp?

[CanadaCivicSIR]

I thought so too!!

Maybe 215hp I thought!!!

[Glowrider]

I think a more fitting question is...Why the hell would anyone WANT a Mustang V6?

[GingeRRRBeef]

yeah the new mustangs are like 195 but the older ones are like 160

[gpomp]

Originally posted by Glowrider
I think a more fitting question is...Why the hell would anyone WANT a Mustang V6?

Well, most people have limited budgets...

[XylathaneGTR]

Sadly, i think the mustang might have a shot at beating it.
Neither car is very fast...but the mustang has a HELL of a lot more toruqe, and a tiny bit more horse (not that it would make a differnece) The Wagon would prolly launch faster tho.
Its kinda even i guess.

[Ben]

Horsepower sells Cars, Torque wins races!

[CLiVE]

Originally posted by XylathaneGTR
Sadly, i think the mustang might have a shot at beating it.
Neither car is very fast...but the mustang has a HELL of a lot more toruqe, and a tiny bit more horse (not that it would make a differnece) The Wagon would prolly launch faster tho.
Its kinda even i guess.

:werd: the wagon might beat it off of the line....but that's about it.

[KoRnJD]

Originally posted by Ben
Horsepower sells Cars, Torque wins races!

:werd: Too true.

[szw]

what kinda times would a v6 mustang see in calgary? stick/auto

[Glowrider]

Well, most people have limited budgets...

That's true. But there's no denying, that for the money, there are MUCH better cars than the Mustang V6.

[ecstasy_civic]

my mom has a 01' v6 and its 215hp and 225tq. its pretty quick.
id guess a mid-high 16. im almost dead even with it and other v6 stangs and i ran a 16.7 @ race city

[gpomp]

Originally posted by Glowrider


That's true. But there's no denying, that for the money, there are MUCH better cars than the Mustang V6.

Well, I always thought that Mustang's were the best bang for the buck if you wanted a fast car that was relatively cheap... :dunno:

[Glowrider]

I always thought that Mustang's were the best bang for the buck

Yeah, Mustangs with V8's in them, mainly the 302. No one has ever said that about a Mustang V6.

[ecstasy_civic]

actually if you look at any review mag. its almost top 5 best bang for your buck. my mom used to have a 99' cobra then switched to the v6 and im not a real fan of it but its fun to bag on lol

and actually since 95-up there all 4.6L not 302's but 281's

[Glowrider]

I know, when I said 302's I meant the older 'stangs. When saying "bang for the buck" I meant performance for the price.

[ecstasy_civic]

ahhh but as for new cars they are decent. pretty much fully loaded w/ everything for about 22 grand cdn dollars

[Glowrider]

Depends on what you want. If you want to look the part, yeah their fine for that...but if you're looking for performance...I wouldn't even consider a Mustang V6. The new Accord V6 tears that car to pieces, and is much nicer IMO.

[ecstasy_civic]

much nicer for 15 grand more! we were talking about bang for your buck!

[Glowrider]

You can pick up the old 302's for pretty cheap, and their MUCH faster.

[ecstasy_civic]

NEW CARS!!!!!!!!!!! i said any new car reviews! lol. you have to read man.

and since when were we comparing late 80's cars to the 21st century cars????? thats like comparing your car to a c4 corvette.

[Glowrider]

Well, the new Mazda 6 isn't bad. Isn't the new Civic Si faster than a V6 Mustang?

[ecstasy_civic]

most likely since its pretty much the same motor as my car and ive beatin them and tied before.

i do like the mazda 6. there cool looking cars. id actually like to go and test drive the v6

[EstoMax]

yea my friend only has about 4-5k to spend so around 1995 or so if he gets it but he is still chaning his mind between that and a civic hatch

[ecstasy_civic]

if hes getting a95 stang tell him to forget about it. its like 160hp. at least a civic you can do endless things to them. thats why i bought mine. just ran out of money:( :banghead:

[Glowrider]

Man, if you look hard enough you can find a Mustang with a V8 in it. The Mustang V6 is just eye candy.

[szw]

Originally posted by ecstasy_civic
most likely since its pretty much the same motor as my car and ive beatin them and tied before.


i think he means the Si in the states, (our SiR)

[Glowrider]

The new one, the hatchback...you guys don't have that one yet?

[EstoMax]

well the main reason he was lookin @ A stang is that he really wants RWD but honda doesnt offer that.. what do u think is out there thats in the early to middle nineties(not boxy bodystyle) that is rwd and comes with decent hp? and cost max 4-5k

max

[Glowrider]

You could get a 2nd gen Rx-7, a 3rd gen Supra...

[szw]

get a 240SX.

Yes glowrider we have the hatchback, but here its called the SiR. Our Si is the same as your EX i think.

[ecstasy_civic]

Originally posted by Glowrider
You could get a 2nd gen Rx-7, a 3rd gen Supra...


you read my mind! sec. gen. for sure. there awesome to drive.

and ya i was think our 1.7 127hp :rofl: but ya we do have the si{sir} 160hp

[Glowrider]

Here in the US the only new Honda Civic Hatchback available is the Si, with 160 hp. No base model with the 1.7 in it.

[ecstasy_civic]

ya there all mixed up here.
si means 1.7 127 hp. same as mine.

sir means 2.0 160 hp

[szw]

yeah civic, not just hatchback

[GTS Jeff]

Originally posted by Glowrider
The new one, the hatchback...you guys don't have that one yet? we do, except that its called the SiR.

the "Si" in canada has a sohc vtec 1.7L engine.

[GTS Jeff]

and lt. max...is your outback auto or manual?

if it were manual, u could easily outlaunch the stang...

[EstoMax]

it be my moms and it be auto :(

max

[Glowrider]

Damn...well, you could always try to power brake it!

Or race him on snow. Haha.

[GTS Jeff]

yep both good ideas. the outback tranny will let u powerbrake up to 3000rpm, so do it.

and race the stang in the snow. chances are, the stang will just slide off the road and u will win by the fact that your car isnt in the ditch

[EstoMax]

whats this powerbreak thing ur talkin about?

[GTS Jeff]

Originally posted by Lt. Max
whats this powerbreak thing ur talkin about? powerBRAKE...aka torque braking...

when ure stopped do this:

1. mash the brakes and hold it down.
2. push the gas all the way down and hold it down.
3. wait until the revs wont go any higher.
4. let off the brakes as fast as u can
5. enjoy your launch.

try not to do this too much and dont hold the revs up like that for too long because the stock tranny doesnt really have proper cooling to handle the heat thats generated from powerbraking.

[EstoMax]

haha.. thats coo i dont think ill let my revmeter sit at 6200 tho ill launch prolly around 3-4k ill try this sometime.

max

[syeve]

Originally posted by Lt. Max
whats this powerbreak thing ur talkin about?

its a good tool for "moms car"

[GTS Jeff]

Originally posted by Lt. Max
haha.. thats coo i dont think ill let my revmeter sit at 6200 tho ill launch prolly around 3-4k ill try this sometime.

max uh, i dont see how u could possibly powerbrake up to 6 grand. i know for a fact that outbacks can only get up to about 3 grand.

i sure hope u arent doing neutral drops...thats a quick way to snap a band in your tranny, and i imagine that the center diff doesnt appreciate neutral drops either.

[ecstasy_civic]

actually they dont have center diffs. if i remember correctly. i havent worked on one for a while but i believe its just the front and rear diff.

[szw]

if you are doing the power braking thing..

press the brake all the way down while in Drive.
switch to neutral, rev it a little bit until you feel the brake pedal sink a bit lower to the floor.

go back to D and contine as above.

[GTS Jeff]

Originally posted by ecstasy_civic
actually they dont have center diffs. if i remember correctly. i havent worked on one for a while but i believe its just the front and rear diff. uh...yea im positive that they do. this car isnt from the 70s man!


Originally posted by szw
if you are doing the power braking thing..

press the brake all the way down while in Drive.
switch to neutral, rev it a little bit until you feel the brake pedal sink a bit lower to the floor.

go back to D and contine as above. hmm....how come?

[THREE40SEVEN]

Originally posted by Ben
Horsepower sells Cars, Torque wins races!
Nope.
Torque gets you out of the hole, and HP gets you down the track, or wins the race. Do you think a diesel truck with the same torque as my car at the same weight and gearing would beat me if it had 150 less hp? Nope. Torque is work, and hp is the relation to it over time.
Imagine a long breaker bar on your crankshaft bolt, and you turning the engine over with it by hand. You ability to turn the engine over is torque, and how fast you can turn it over, over ____ amount of time is HP.
Dont get me wrong, a torquey car is WAY more fun to drive..

'95-98 mustang v6's are a dog, but i enjoy driving '99 + v6's.
From memory, 94-8 are rated at 150, and the 99+ 190.
Slap a procharger on a 99+ v6 and get around 275rwhp with 9-10 lbs.

Id put my money on the ford;)

[ecstasy_civic]

hey how much for one of those v6 procharger kits?

*for 347 only*
can you get a supercharger for a 5.4L f150? a buddy of mine wants to pick one up and you were recommended

[THREE40SEVEN]

Originally posted by ecstasy_civic
hey how much for one of those v6 procharger kits?

*for 347 only*
can you get a supercharger for a 5.4L f150? a buddy of mine wants to pick one up and you were recommended
~$5200 from memory(99-03 with intercooler)

No problem for the f150. Shoot me a PM if you need pricing/info.

[GTS Jeff]

Originally posted by Ben
Horsepower sells Cars, Torque wins races!
Originally posted by THREE40SEVEN

Nope.
Torque gets you out of the hole, and HP gets you down the track, or wins the race. Do you think a diesel truck with the same torque as my car at the same weight and gearing would beat me if it had 150 less hp? Nope. Torque is work, and hp is the relation to it over time.
Imagine a long breaker bar on your crankshaft bolt, and you turning the engine over with it by hand. You ability to turn the engine over is torque, and how fast you can turn it over, over ____ amount of time is HP.
Dont get me wrong, a torquey car is WAY more fun to drive..

http://forums.beyond.ca/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10283

here u go boys!

[SmelltheRubber]

My '01 V6 stang is a fun ride. It wont compare to a V8 stang, but then I didnt buy a V6 to race. Better gas mileage, a bit easier on ice, and costs alot less than a GT. Plus, if it comes down to it, you can still take *most* cars on the road.

[ecstasy_civic]

Originally posted by Jeff TYPE R
uh...yea im positive that they do. this car isnt from the 70s man!

hmm....how come?

had one come in today and no they dont have transfer cases.

as we were talking about if the outback has a transfer case

[dogstar]

just race the stang on ice, and as for a cheaper car thats rwd... look at a 240 or some of the older toyota rwds.

american cars are to overpriced for what hes looking for, unless you want a dog you need to push up a hill... ie: v6 stang

[GTS Jeff]

Originally posted by ecstasy_civic


had one come in today and no they dont have transfer cases.

as we were talking about if the outback has a transfer case tthey have a center diff, but not a transfer case.

btw, this is an automatic were talking about.

think about it man....how can the awd system vary torque bias if it didnt have a center diff?!

[SmelltheRubber]

Originally posted by dogstar
just race the stang on ice, and as for a cheaper car thats rwd... look at a 240 or some of the older toyota rwds.

american cars are to overpriced for what hes looking for, unless you want a dog you need to push up a hill... ie: v6 stang

Most people who drive stangs know better than to race on snow/ice.
"a dog to push uphill"? you mean a light-weight rwd car? ie: supra? ie: 240?

[88 CRX]

My 01' stang is horrible on winter roads, I wouldn't dare puch it hard ever, unless I was planning on sitting in the ditch.

[StrokeD z]

ok for the ppl that are fighting about torque vs hp this is what i think about it.....you need alot of both to win a race....torque isnt what makes you win races even if you have alot of it your still going to need hp to back it up

[THREE40SEVEN]

Originally posted by StrokeD z
ok for the ppl that are fighting about torque vs hp this is what i think about it.....you need alot of both to win a race....torque isnt what makes you win races even if you have alot of it your still going to need hp to back it up
:clap: :D
Who says you need alot? You just need more than the guy you're racing, saying you both have similar weight and gearing.

[Miklowcic]

If you just want a show car or just want the look of a stang and dont care about racing, the V6 is a great car.

If you start getting into racing, your better off going with the V8. I know someone who had the Vortech installed on his V6 and was running 260 or 270 hp at th rear wheels, but he ran into all sorts of little problems. Leaks and problems getting the car tuned right. The guy that did the install said he would not do anymore V6 stangs. it was his first and last. This person has since tradedin his V6 for a GT.

The 03 Cobra is the way to go if you really want some decent stock power with potential for much more.

oh and the hp rating 99-01 V6 is 190. Word is 05 will go up to 215

[Miklowcic]

MUSTANGS and t he other domestics ALWAYS kill the IMPS at Englishtowns Import VS Detroit IRon. I have never lost to an IMP in this stang or my heavy 01GT VERT! I have seen many V6 stangs beat IMPS HEAds UP too!





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[Miklowcic]

licence plate IMPEATR???

[mrmattyk]

I like the look of 94-98 mustangs, a white one would be sweet. The interior however is cheap, and ugly.

[SilverStreak]

Mustangs are decent but not the V6, you'll get killed by the decent imports out there. For god sake don't put chrome on the wheel well if you do get one.

[ecstasy_civic]

Originally posted by mrmattyk
I like the look of 94-98 mustangs, a white one would be sweet. The interior however is cheap, and ugly.

i hate my moms, had to drive it the other day, brutal, i just wanted to get back to driving either of my cars lol

[Miklowcic]

You would rather drive a CIVIC? heheheheheh

your funny. Not sure whats so special about yours but my family has all Hondas. Quality wise they are much better than American cars sad to say, but performance wise no way. My bro has a 90 something civic, ma has an accord and dad has the passport. Like I said they rarely have any sort of problems, but they arent as much to drive as even a v6 Mustang!

[ecstasy_civic]

i doubt that, i love winding mine up to 7k with no problems at all, the mustang is so boring to drive you have to shit @ 5-5500 at the most! its fun cause its rear wheel drive but thats why i have an rx7:D

[lammer]

Originally posted by SmelltheRubber


Most people who drive stangs know better than to race on snow/ice.
"a dog to push uphill"? you mean a light-weight rwd car? ie: supra? ie: 240?

Toyota Supra 1995

Weight: 3415 lbs.


Ford Mustang 1996

Weight: 3077 lbs.

light weight rwd car?? seems as though the mustang is lighter...

[mrmattyk]

Originally posted by Miklowcic
You would rather drive a CIVIC? heheheheheh

your funny. Not sure whats so special about yours but my family has all Hondas. Quality wise they are much better than American cars sad to say, but performance wise no way. My bro has a 90 something civic, ma has an accord and dad has the passport. Like I said they rarely have any sort of problems, but they arent as much to drive as even a v6 Mustang!

If I could upgrade the interior I'd grab a stang for summer cruising. I like to rev up to about 7k before something nice happens, so it's not my style of car. They are fun to cruise around in for sure. I got to drive a 96 cobra, jet black with the top down. :bigpimp:
The interior was a little gross, but it was a nice cruising vehicle.

[THREE40SEVEN]

Originally posted by lammer

Ford Mustang 1996

Weight: 3077 lbs.

light weight rwd car?? seems as though the mustang is lighter...
Was this car missing the engine? NO WAY a 96 weighs 3077lbs. Try between 3400-3600lbs.

[lammer]

Originally posted by THREE40SEVEN

Was this car missing the engine? NO WAY a 96 weighs 3077lbs. Try between 3400-3600lbs.

i found it off edmunds.com

a 2003 Model
2003 Ford Mustang GT Premium
weighs 3400 lbs.
so all im saying is that a supra is pretty heavy its self.

[Glowrider]

Supra's are heavy, they weight about 3300-3400 lbs...but they have plenty of power to back up that weight.

[SmelltheRubber]

Originally posted by Glowrider
Supra's are heavy, they weight about 3300-3400 lbs...but they have plenty of power to back up that weight.

I think you missed the point....
We were discussing which car (cause both are rwd) would be shittier to push uphill (dont ask why). Since the stang is lighter than the supra, i'd rather push a stang uphill! :clap:

Edit: My 2001 V6 coupe weighs in at 3114 lbs WITH an engine.

URL=http://www.edmunds.com/used/2001/ford/mustang/100001045/specs.html?tid=edmunds.u.prices.leftsidenav..8.Ford*]http://www.edmunds.com/used/2001/ford/mustang/100001045/specs.html?tid=edmunds.u.prices.leftsidenav..8.Ford*[/URL]

[THREE40SEVEN]

Originally posted by SmelltheRubber


I think you missed the point....
We were discussing which car (cause both are rwd) would be shittier to push uphill (dont ask why). Since the stang is lighter than the supra, i'd rather push a stang uphill! :clap:

Edit: My 2001 V6 coupe weighs in at 3114 lbs WITH an engine.

URL=http://www.edmunds.com/used/2001/ford/mustang/100001045/specs.html?tid=edmunds.u.prices.leftsidenav..8.Ford*]http://www.edmunds.com/used/2001/ford/mustang/100001045/specs.html?tid=edmunds.u.prices.leftsidenav..8.Ford*[/URL]
Where did you weigh it?

[Glowrider]

Oh ok...on the topic of pointless arguments....

Who would win in a fight, a silverback gorilla, or a raptor?

[StrokeD z]

Originally posted by THREE40SEVEN

Was this car missing the engine? NO WAY a 96 weighs 3077lbs. Try between 3400-3600lbs.

that is too light for a stang(a grand am weighs 3300lbs):nut:

[THREE40SEVEN]

Originally posted by StrokeD z


that is too light for a stang(a grand am weighs 3300lbs):nut:
Whats too light? 3077 or 3600?

[lammer]

Originally posted by THREE40SEVEN

Whats too light? 3077 or 3600?


i think he means the 3600??:dunno: :dunno:

[THREE40SEVEN]

Originally posted by lammer



i think he means the 3600??:dunno: :dunno:
White_cobra's(performance-shop.com) 96 supercharged cobra weighs a hair over 3600. The superchanger kit weights about 100lbs from what i remember.

[StrokeD z]

the "1996 stang that weighs 3077lbs"

[SmelltheRubber]

The raptor would win without a doubt. Raptor's are mean motherfuckers.

[MSRXTRM]

Originally posted by Miklowcic
licence plate IMPEATR???

Nice Ride!!!!!!! Not big on yellow myself, but its still a blown '03.:thumbsup:

[tommytom02]

I have a '94 v6 stang. its 145 hp 205 torque, 3077lbs. 94-95 are 145 hp, 96-98 are 150hp, 99-00 are 190, 01 and up ate 193. any of the above stock will smoke stock rice burners. dual exhaust adds 18% hp and cold air induction adds about 15%. for 500 bucks you can bolt on 20-30 hp to a mustang. good luck on that with an import. and for a couple grand, you can make a 190 hp v6 stang into 400hp. and when im all done, it wont sound like a lawnmower. i just have the duals on my car and i eat imports for lunch. most people dont really know how to mod a rice burner anyways. they think a buzz pipe makes it fast, but i prove them wrong time and again. i dont go looking for races, but import drivers do. i dont need to look for races to get respect, ive already got it.

[nex]

you think your 94 v6 stang is fast? i have a v6 alero and i dont think its fast i consider it slow actully. And it has 175 hp and 200lbs of torque and it weighs in at 2890

It ran a 16.2 and i think thats slow as hell and its stock.

so buddy your stang isnt fast

[sputnik]

in winnipeg there is a supercharged V6 stang... does 12s

[GingeRRRBeef]

ummm ... yeah ... way to revive a long dead thread ... another domestic fan boy eh?

I'm not trying to bash mustangs because I'm sure everybody likes something diferent. Mustangs are very popular and I'm sure they're very tunable. I agree that there's a lot of tasteless crap out there. However, don't talk trash like every single import out there is a piece and talk don't like you're high and mighty because you drive a "V6" mustang. Buddy, it's a V6. Bottom of the line mustang. Grab yourself at least a GT before you start running your mouth.

I'll run against your "mighty" stock mustang any day at Racecity. And then you'll see how my 4 banger will give you a run for your money.

Like Nex said, your mustang ain't fast and I'm sure his Alero will have no trouble beating you.


Originally posted by sputnik
in winnipeg there is a supercharged V6 stang... does 12s

Yeah ... good one ... :thumbsdow
in California there is a turbo'd civic ... does 11s

[sputnik]

Originally posted by Silver_SpecV
Yeah ... good one ... :thumbsdow
in California there is a turbo'd civic ... does 11s

sorry... my mistake... runs 13s

http://mbmustangs.tripod.com/racing.htm

[That.Guy.S30]

Originally posted by Fuji
me too. I drive the impreza RS (167HP, 165TQ) and it's pretty close between me and the base stang.

i drive a Ts wagon.. haha have you seen the dynos for our cars?.. 126hp and 133tq at wheel i believe.. kinda weak awd drains the power.. so im guessing the mustang would smoke you hands down.. or it could end up between who is the better driver

[4wheeldrift]

Originally posted by Thi_Thi Subs


i drive a Ts wagon.. haha have you seen the dynos for our cars?.. 126hp and 133tq at wheel i believe.. kinda weak awd drains the power.. so im guessing the mustang would smoke you hands down.. or it could end up between who is the better driver Wheel horsepower is a terrible way to compare potential quarter mile times for vehicles. Traction, gearing and driver skill all play a very significant role.

[TahOe_STylZ]

Originally posted by Glowrider
Oh ok...on the topic of pointless arguments....

Who would win in a fight, a silverback gorilla, or a raptor?

I got my money on the raptor....damn gorilla's are 2 slow.

Nick

[GingeRRRBeef]

holy crap, let this thread die already!!! It's soooo freakin old

[That.Guy.S30]

Originally posted by 4wheeldrift
Wheel horsepower is a terrible way to compare potential quarter mile times for vehicles. Traction, gearing and driver skill all play a very significant role.

im just telling you how much hp is actaully there.. everyone thinks just cuz suabru says 165hp doesnt mean it is.. yes the awd will have the better traction, the gearing who knows i dont know shit about stangs.. and drivers like i said..

[4wheeldrift]

Originally posted by Thi_Thi Subs


im just telling you how much hp is actaully there.. everyone thinks just cuz suabru says 165hp doesnt mean it is.. This is true of almost every vehicle, not just subaru. As far as I know, no manufacturer is rating vehicles by wheel horsepower, its all brake horsepower.

[That.Guy.S30]

yup cept the new dogdes i beleive the underrate there cars(srt4.. etc)..
most cars only have i dunno 18 percent hp loss? could be wrong.. but subarus lose alot more than that due to the awd drivetrain

[4wheeldrift]

Originally posted by Thi_Thi Subs
yup cept the new dogdes i beleive the underrate there cars(srt4.. etc)..
most cars only have i dunno 18 percent hp loss? could be wrong.. but subarus lose alot more than that due to the awd drivetrain Thats why I said MOST, lots of japanese cars are under-rated, at least in japan. But that doesn't mean every car is under-rated, its fairly rare. SAE standards are for brake horsepower, but they have no provisions for the manufacturer bending the truth a bit ;)

Drivetrain loss varies by model, by drivetrain layout and even by car. There is no hard and fast number for it really. Some cars lose less than 10%, some cars lose closer to 30%. Theres a lot of factors that affect driveline loss.