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silva27
09-30-2005, 08:28 PM
I was wondering if anyone can help me figure out if an H22A Engine would fit into my 1993 Acura Integra GS-R? Also, do I need any upgrade to my suspension or anything since it's an higher torque/horsepower engine. Any suggestion would greatly help, thanks guys.

Jetsilva

:thumbsup:

mdeleon
09-30-2005, 08:38 PM
im not totally sure, but, im pretty sure a type-r motor would be a better investment since you already own a teg. but with enough money anything's possible.

silva27
09-30-2005, 08:42 PM
Yes, your right anything is possible. I just recently found out that an H22A engine is much more affordable than the Typr-R engine and at a higher horse/torque power. Thanks for the input.

Jetsilva

mdeleon
09-30-2005, 08:46 PM
that's true...haha :thumbsup: but then again, the b18c5 has more potential since there's a larger span of aftermarket parts around.

hmmmm, why am i going against my motor??? i say go for it!!! i've wondered how the h22a would do in a dc2 chasis....way lighter than the bb2

EK 2.0
09-30-2005, 08:57 PM
It will fit, but you would be better off boosting your B18C1 if it is in good condition.

The H series will require a mount kit as well as new axles and ECU or fuel MGMT if you dont already have it included in the swap budget.


Plus trust me, I speak from first hand knowledge...Even though the H22 doesnt weigh in at a whole lot more than the B series, it will entirely throw the balance, oh the sweet sweet balance, of the Teg way out of whack. The H22 sits higher and more towards the Rad than the B that sits lower and closer to the firewall. Plus there is FAR more support speed part wise for the B series than the H22...

but it can and will work...check out Honda-Tech for write ups and more in depth knowledge...


***EDIT***


Wait, this is a 93 GS-R??...so like a DA??...DUDE, leave it as it is. If the motor is still sound that B17 is rare and PIMP...there is tons of support for that motor, and its sooooooo rare...

Leave it mang an H22 will dusrupt that car so much unless you want it as a drag car...did I mention its rare??

silva27
09-30-2005, 09:30 PM
Yes I do have the original B17A1 engine. You do have a point about the H22A engine which weigh more and might disrupt balance of my car. DA? what is DA? and why is the B17A1 so rare? Should I keep it and is there things I can do to improve its power and torque? Thanks for the great input EK 2.0.


Jetsilva

Genjuro
09-30-2005, 09:47 PM
how many kms you have on the b17?

silva27
09-30-2005, 09:51 PM
236k on the B17A1. I would like to rebuild the engine or bore it for more horsepower, is that a good idea? :confused:


Jetsilva

DJ Lazy
09-30-2005, 10:00 PM
a "DA" is the chassis code of your integra... similar to the EF, EG, EK (civic chassis), BB (prelude), AP(s2k) etc...

and yea.. leave the b17 in man... get it rebuilt when you blow it.. get a legendboy turbo kits and call it a day.. :D

derek123
10-01-2005, 12:30 AM
Originally posted by silva27
why is the B17A1 so rare? Should I keep it and is there things I can do to improve its power and torque?Jetsilva

it's the 'big' motor for 2nd gens, and only found in the last two years of the production run.

B17A1 is only found in 92-93 gsr's
Displacement CC's 1678
Compression Ratio 10.0 : 1
Horse Power 160 @ 7600 rpm
Torque 117 lb/ft @ 7000 rpm


all other DA's (90-93 gen 2 teg 2 and 4 doors) rs, ls, and gs had the
B18A1
Displacement CC's 1834
Compression Ratio 9.2 : 1
Horse Power 130 @ 6000 rpm (90-91) // 140 @ 6300 rpm (92-93)
Torque 121 lb/ft @ 5000 rpm


take a look at some shops that sell honda engine upgrade parts/ rebuilds whatever, and you will see the potential of the b17.

If you really want to do the H22, I'd say pick up a 92-93 rs/ls and make it a project car.
That way you can take you time and do it up right.

...that said, how much for your b17 ? :devil:


-derek-

silva27
10-01-2005, 12:57 AM
Haha well said DJ Lazy, I will do that! Yeah, I rather keep my GS-R and increase its potential. I dont think I'll be selling it after what you guys have said about it, sorry Dereck if your looking to buy my B17 :D Thanks all for the great tips!!!


Jetsilva

freakin
10-01-2005, 06:05 PM
Technically your GSR Integra is a DB not a DA.....That being said, I'm very glad to hear that you're not bastardizing a G2 GSR. They're very, very, very rare :love:. Only 2 years of production and the B17 is strictly a USDM motor...no JDM love for that one. You won't have a problem selling your drivetrain if you decide to go with a H series.

PS, I'll buy your tranny if you decide to swap motors. :)

JordanEG6
10-01-2005, 08:55 PM
like Arif had pointed out, the B17A is very rare and hard to come by. I'd love to own a DA gs-R, i would leave it the way it is. it still have lots of aftermarket support and if your hitting the autoX or if u like cornering and in demand for handling, the H22 wouldnt be my first choice, it will weigh the front end down and throw off your weight distibution. but cool motor none the less, its sweet in a BB1 :thumbsup:

silva27
10-02-2005, 12:54 AM
Thanks for the input guys


Jetsilva

silva27
10-02-2005, 12:56 AM
I'll let you know first Jordan if I decided to swap motors ;)


Jetsilva

lastprodigy
10-02-2005, 05:25 PM
The G2 GSR engine is pretty good to start of with, dont waste money swaping something like an h22a stick with the b17 and boost that or whatever you want :burnout:

Chandler_Racing
10-02-2005, 05:39 PM
Originally posted by lastprodigy
The G2 GSR engine is pretty good to start of with, dont waste money swaping something like an h22a stick with the b17 and boost that or whatever you want :burnout:
Agreed, except all motor ;)

JordanEG6
10-02-2005, 07:50 PM
Originally posted by Chandler_Racing

Agreed, except all motor ;)

yaY :clap: an NA fan!

90Tegra
10-02-2005, 08:28 PM
NA fan with a boosted car. lol

b17 are overrated cause of their rareness, but i would definitely keep it over an h series and just all-motor it up.

silva27
10-03-2005, 10:51 AM
haha

rc2002
10-03-2005, 10:54 AM
So what'd you end up deciding on?

In my opinion, for the amount of work that would be required for the swap, the H22 wouldn't be worth it. I don't think the H22 is all that great a motor anyway. I prefer the B-series to the H-series anyday, plus you get better aftermarket support for the B-series (which was designed for your car).

silva27
10-04-2005, 06:38 PM
I decided on keeping my B-series engine. Yeah you guys are so right! Thanks so much for the input and tips.

:thumbsup:

Jetsilva

silva27
10-04-2005, 06:42 PM
Also do you guys know any tips on where to get the aftermarket parts for the B-series engine and what parts do I need to increase Horsepower/torque? Thanks!


Jetsilva

QuasarCav
10-04-2005, 06:50 PM
You need to trade me your car for mine, 93 with 200k for 93 with 236k. And then you can boost my LS motor and rape me in the g2 GSR.

Seriously, think about it.

silva27
10-05-2005, 12:06 PM
Haha nice try, but I rather keep my GS-R. Since it's rare these days to find such a car. Thanks for the intrest. ;)


Jetsilva