Is this LCD TV any good?

[Gurpy]

Hey,

So they have a LCD TV on sale for 500 at sears right now, I think it's the same one as this - http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000FS10060747&catid=

Anyone know if its any good? All it says in the flyer is prima 20" LCD TV 500:! contrast ratio, 640 x 480 resolution, 480i scanning, stereo sound with component video. Its probably the same one as in the link though.

Edit: Here's the link to it on sears website: http://www6.sears.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10001&catalogId=10001&categoryId=20816&langId=-1&rrc=1&productId=158214675

[teggypimp95]

Lcds are clearer than plasma tvs but they burn out alot faster than plasmas do.

[lastprodigy]

the sears link also says 599 :dunno:

[Gurpy]

Ahh, so how long do LCD TV's usually last for? I'd plan on keeping this for at least 5-10 years?

Lastprodigy, its 599 on their site but there's a two day sale tomorrow and sunday that brings it down to 500.

[rage2]

Originally posted by teggypimp95
Lcds are clearer than plasma tvs but they burn out alot faster than plasmas do.
??????
LCD's have zero issues with burning out. Plasmas start dimming from the first day of use, slowly and not noticeable until you put a new one right beside one that's been in use for a year or two.

[dericer]

Originally posted by teggypimp95
Lcds are clearer than plasma tvs but they burn out alot faster than plasmas do.

You might want to research that alittle better.

Plasma are way clearer than LCD's, but since the element is gasous it has a really short half life. Around 5000 - 10000 hours (meaning the image will dim by 1/2 every 5-10000 hours on average) - Plus they can get screen burn if left on one image too long.

LCD can't (yet anyways) achieve the same Contrast ratios of Plasma's ( the average is 800:1, while Plasmas are about 10000:1) but there screens are a liquid which does not have a half life of any concern. The problems with LCD's is they don't tend to have a quick Refresh rate on cheaper models. Meaning you can get blurring if an image moves really quickly.

The advantage of an LCD is they last around 50 - 60,000 hours and don't need to be chucked, but just replace their bulb.

And to answer the first post:

It's an okay deal...but not spectacular.

I wouldn't get an LCD w/ less than 800:1 contrat, and a refresh rate of .8 m/s + Prima makes shotty Tube T.V.s so i cant see this being any better.

[Gurpy]

Ah, so anyone know if the one in my first post or this one would be better?: http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000FS10061691&catid=

Also, if both of those are crap anyone have any recommendations of something in the 500 price range?

Edit: Just reread the post above me, thanks for the info. I'll keep shopping around :)

[dericer]

http://www.lcdtvbuyingguide.com/

Great site for info. Only problem, is it refers to US model numbers.

[rage2]

Originally posted by dericer
Plasma are way clearer than LCD's
Plasmas and LCD panels are similar in image sharpness. LCD rear projections are the ones that are less sharp.

Originally posted by dericer
LCD can't (yet anyways) achieve the same Contrast ratios of Plasma's ( the average is 800:1, while Plasmas are about 10000:1)
Again, LCD Rear projections are weaker at contrast ratio. LCD panels and plasmas are fairly close on average.

Of course, LCD panels are fairly small, largest ones are under 40".

[heavyD]

Originally posted by rage2

Plasmas and LCD panels are similar in image sharpness. LCD rear projections are the ones that are less sharp.

Again, LCD Rear projections are weaker at contrast ratio. LCD panels and plasmas are fairly close on average.

Of course, LCD panels are fairly small, largest ones are under 40".

What it basically boils down to is that a good LCD (not LCD projection TV) is better than a plasma TV. The only downside is price and size of LCD's.

[dericer]

Originally posted by rage2

Plasmas and LCD panels are similar in image sharpness. LCD rear projections are the ones that are less sharp.

Again, LCD Rear projections are weaker at contrast ratio. LCD panels and plasmas are fairly close on average.

Of course, LCD panels are fairly small, largest ones are under 40".

Let me qualify my statement.

NEC makes an LCD panel screen with a contrast ratio of 3000:1 that is the best on the market right now...in the US.

Sharp's Aquos line is the best I've seen in Canada at 800:1.

Even a bargin bin brand Plasma is averaging atleast a 3000:1 contrast ratio.

The arguement between Plasma vs. LCD is alot like Beta vs. VHS.

Sharp just anounced though they made an LCD with 1,000,000:1 contrast ratio but isn't ready for teh consumer market for years.

http://www.i4u.com/article4315.html

So give it a year or two, and LCD's will definalty repalce Plasmas for good.

[teggypimp95]

I just bought a lpd tv, i love it! very clear and impossible to burnt becuase it uses mirrors to reflect the imagine onto the screen. not as think as plasma ot lcd tvs but still a nice size. Bulbs are replace able when fadding.

[rage2]

Originally posted by dericer
Sharp's Aquos line is the best I've seen in Canada at 800:1.
You gotta do more research ;).

I did a quick search for 3000:1 lcd and 4000:1 lcd.

http://www.dealtime.com/xPF-Samsung_LNR328W
http://www.abtelectronics.com/product/19568.html

[dericer]

Those are US sites.

dynamic contrast is a manufactor's way of fudging numbers, it means it appears to look like 4000:1 not the actual numbers. ;)

But it's all good. :thumbsup:


http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/208

[gram]

Don't buy Prima....learn from my experience....they do not make good products.

I had myprima plasma replaced 3 times finally got sick of replacing it every 3 months and bought a Sony..none of them lasted more than 5 months.:thumbsdow

Spend a little extra and get a brand name

[Gurpy]

Alright, thanks for the help everyone. I think i'll shop around for a sharp LCD tv.

[Ttrak]

Originally posted by gram
Don't buy Prima....learn from my experience....they do not make good products.

I had myprima plasma replaced 3 times finally got sick of replacing it every 3 months and bought a Sony..none of them lasted more than 5 months.:thumbsdow

Spend a little extra and get a brand name

i thought sony's dont make plasmas??



Anyway from what I hear the new generation of plasmas are equal as long as life goes to the LCD's (both 60 000 hours) - going by the panasonic model not a no name brand. Also they have claimed that they new generation plasmas do not burn in. As far as size goes i think samsung just released a 46in LCD panel but it is pretty pricey. Like mentioned above the picture on plasma's do 'fade' over time, LCD is the way to go.
Just my two cents

[CRXguy]

Originally posted by rage2

You gotta do more research ;).

I did a quick search for 3000:1 lcd and 4000:1 lcd.

http://www.dealtime.com/xPF-Samsung_LNR328W
http://www.abtelectronics.com/product/19568.html

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: for the Samsung. I have the LNR329D. Got the Bell HD satellite. :bigpimp: Thanks to rage2 for making me spend more money! haha

[rage2]

Originally posted by Ttrak
i thought sony's dont make plasmas??
They don't anymore. They used to have plasmas in their XBR wega line. That got replaced by the XBR grand wega LCD rear projections, and now replaced by the XBR SXRD's.

[FiveFreshFish]

Originally posted by rage2
Of course, LCD panels are fairly small, largest ones are under 40".

The Sharp 45" Aquos was introduced over a year in Canada.

http://www.sharp.ca/products/index.asp?cat=30#60

http://www.sharp.ca/pdf/45_inch_press_release-09-27-04.pdf

[rage2]

Oops, I meant the majority of the larger ones ;).