780Tuners are a bunch of fgts

[keith303]

just figured I would mention this as people on here liekly frequent both boards. Mainly its site admin gayness and a large community of edmotnon fgts that back up their dictatotship.

I get banned for having a healthly dispute with another member about cars....

[rage2]

did you get banned?

[keith303]

yah

[rage2]

Should I ban you here too? Since I admin both sites? :dunno:

[keith303]

no, I enjoy this forum as the scene atleast offers something in calgary.

The banning was undeserved and unnessesary. If you can tell reflux about this as hes the anal little bitch thats usually involved in things like this.

[rage2]

ok I wont ban you then lol.

I'm not on there too much, but if you would've said yes, I would've done it haha.

[SteveMo600]

Do you have a link to the thread that got you banned?

[Kobe]

Originally posted by rage2
ok I wont ban you then lol.

I'm not on there too much, but if you would've said yes, I would've done it haha.

:rofl: :rofl:

[keith303]

thx mr. admin guy. I have been on this board alot but actually dont know wat the views are on street racing. thx


No they erased the 12 page link. the conversation was "to real" for them.

[BerserkerCatSplat]

Please don't tell me you were advocating street racing. :banghead:

[keith303]

no it wasnt about racing atall, it was overall about dsms vs honda, not the usuall argument though. Those boards just have a large amount of missinformed people who tend to go off of heresay rather then facts

[Weapon_R]

What was your deep dispute regarding?

[keith303]

well mainly that fact that all the people involved in the argument seem to be under the impression that dsms are always unreliable and always break down, which I agree they are more unreliable then a honda but what do you really expect from a cheaper made car thats seen 2x digit boost for 16 years... Nobody want to look at it that way.

Aswell I got flammed because leastyear I was supposed to race a guy but I blew a piston so I couldnt. so obviosuly Im a talker and must be scared. Also because I say that My goal for this spring is 350-400awhp I am flamed... and must by full of shit.

[handsomebassman]

Originally posted by keith303
well mainly that fact that all the people involved in the argument seem to be under the impression that dsms are un reliable and always break down, which I agree they are more unreliable then a honda but what do you really expect from a cheaper made car thats seen 2x digit boost for 16 years... Nobody want to look at it that way.

Aswell I got flammed because leastyear I was supposed to race a guy but I blew a piston so I couldnt. so obviosuly Im a talker and must be scared. Also because I say that My goal for this spring is 350-400awhp I am flamed... and must by full of shit.

Hate to break it to ya, but reality is, people can be big assholes. Im a huge honda guy, but i wouldnt flame you for having a goal of 350-400 (which i dont see as unrealistic for your vehicle), but unfortunatly, there are alot of people that would. Infact i have a couple in my head i could name that i KNOW would be first to flame, but dont let it get to you. If people are bein fags, start another thread, or Just Pm them to blow it up their ass. I Pm people, and they tend to flame less, and bitch less in your threads.

Try that approach, or just get used to the assholes who flame anyone who loves cars. Or a little of both.

[keith303]

:werd:

[finboy]

:goflames:

[snowboard]

eww edmonton is grungy, got lost there for like 45 minuters when i went to get a bike, cause there roads are so fucked, and seriously didnt see a single decent looking building :barf:

plus i saw mad crack whores.

[SteveMo600]

Originally posted by snowboard
eww edmonton is grungy, got lost there for like 45 minuters when i went to get a bike, cause there roads are so fucked, and seriously didnt see a single decent looking building :barf:

plus i saw mad crack whores.

I wouldn't say that Edmonton in general is grungy. There are many areas in Calgary that are just as grungy but that, by no means, makes the entire city a fuckin sty.

I live in Edmonton going to school but originally am from Calgary and honestly, I think Calgary is a way better city; probably the best city in Canada IMO.

Every city has their bad part of town with "crack whores"

[Grip172]

aww poor little guy....jfwy, i don't reall ylike 780 that much either

[snowboard]

Originally posted by SteveMo600


I wouldn't say that Edmonton in general is grungy. There are many areas in Calgary that are just as grungy but that, by no means, makes the entire city a fuckin sty.

I live in Edmonton going to school but originally am from Calgary and honestly, I think Calgary is a way better city; probably the best city in Canada IMO.

Every city has their bad part of town with "crack whores"

haha i know im just kidding... but for real man, i couldnt believe how much nastyness there was. i know it has nice parts, i've seen them haha. i love c-town, wouldnt move any where else, accept santamonica or miami

[SteveMo600]

Originally posted by snowboard


haha i know im just kidding... but for real man, i couldnt believe how much nastyness there was. i know it has nice parts, i've seen them haha. i love c-town, wouldnt move any where else, accept santamonica or miami

LOL...I'm probably biased cause I haven't left the areas of Whyte Ave and Campus since I moved there. One thing I will agree with you though, the roads are fucked. Some city planner on acid designed those roads.

Calgary is the shit though. I'll definitely move back after I'm done school.

[v8killah]

780ricers is more like it, btw i started the thread with a bogus claim and it turned into a hilarious thread, Theres a guy in it who says he has a 700hp that he hopes to pull over 1g on a skidpad:rolleyes:


anyways here it is, good for a laugh.

http://forums.780tuners.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35928

[b_t]

That thread is like gay squeezed into pure gay and then boiled to make mega-gay, and then it precipitates back into ultra-gay... and then you add the internet and it becomes something else entirely.

[Team Emperor]

Ya that thread just gets worse and worse :zzz: I fell asleep there for abit lol

[7thgenvic]

Originally posted by handsomebassman


Hate to break it to ya, but reality is, people can be big assholes. Im a huge honda guy, but i wouldnt flame you for having a goal of 350-400 (which i dont see as unrealistic for your vehicle), but unfortunatly, there are alot of people that would. Infact i have a couple in my head i could name that i KNOW would be first to flame, but dont let it get to you. If people are bein fags, start another thread, or Just Pm them to blow it up their ass. I Pm people, and they tend to flame less, and bitch less in your threads.

Try that approach, or just get used to the assholes who flame anyone who loves cars. Or a little of both.

thanks for PM'in me. I still don't like you!

[DelSoln]

Originally posted by Team Emperor
Ya that thread just gets worse and worse :zzz: I fell asleep there for abit lol

What your not a fan of bench racing either? lol

[GTS Jeff]

Originally posted by SteveMo600
I think Calgary is a way better city; probably the best city in Canada IMO.


Whoa let's not go overboard here...yeah Edmonton sucks and yeah Calgary is better...but best city in Canada? There's so much shit you can do in cities like Van and TO that you can't do in Calgary...

[5.9 R/T]

Originally posted by GTS Jeff



Whoa let's not go overboard here...yeah Edmonton sucks and yeah Calgary is better...but best city in Canada? There's so much shit you can do in cities like Van and TO that you can't do in Calgary...

Like get capped at a boxing day sale!

[badseed]

Originally posted by GTS Jeff



Whoa let's not go overboard here...yeah Edmonton sucks and yeah Calgary is better...but best city in Canada? There's so much shit you can do in cities like Van and TO that you can't do in Calgary...

Not to mention Montreal:thumbsup:

[HRD2PLZ]

Originally posted by GTS Jeff



Whoa let's not go overboard here...yeah Edmonton sucks and yeah Calgary is better...but best city in Canada? There's so much shit you can do in cities like Van and TO that you can't do in Calgary...

:werd:

Vancouver pwnz Calgary

[khtm]

Yeah maybe if you love rain and hate sun, love getting mugged at needle-point downtown, love getting your car stolen, and love going to lame bars full of ganstas and stuck-up bitches, then yeah Vancouver is a lot better.

I'm a BCer forever...grew up on Van. Island. But after living in Van for 2 years and now Calgary for about the same...I can STRONGLY say that Calgary is a lot better city...at least for me. Fvck UN rankings.

Just because there's "more to do", doesn't make it a better city.

[iceburns288]

who gives a fuck about a charger, big deal its a fucking boat and these are sport compact forums. go be a fag somewhere else with your 700hp 10 000lb car
700hp is bragging it up too with best case senerio, you likely be agood 100 ofnot more below that which puts at nothing special for a car with that big on an engine.

I mightaswell add that its going to be a a fuckin pig of gas and will handle like absolute shit.

Ill take my AWD and tight suspension with 25mpg anyday.

I think HP/litre ratio is important, with you being maybe 100, tops.Myself and V8killah will be 2x that.

I should go talk shit in the ford escort forums so I casn feel big about my car too.







p.s AWD tear you outta the hole bitch...

Wow, you sound like a real responsible guy.:rolleyes:

EDIT:

So what do you have thats so great, what else am I going todo but talk shit to some queer over then net during commercials from the show im watching.

I wont have shit eh, have a 400 hp talon in the works and a 400hp chev.

you just jelouse cause....





AWD tear you outa the hole bitch.

[civicluva]

Originally posted by GTS Jeff



Whoa let's not go overboard here...yeah Edmonton sucks and yeah Calgary is better...but best city in Canada? There's so much shit you can do in cities like Van and TO that you can't do in Calgary...

He said IMO. In my opinion...

[finboy]

Originally posted by 5.9 R/T


Like get capped at a boxing day sale!

bwahahahahahahahaha :rofl:



Originally posted by HRD2PLZ


:werd:

Vancouver pwnz Calgary

:werd: except for their hockey team

[heavyD]

Originally posted by GTS Jeff
Whoa let's not go overboard here...yeah Edmonton sucks and yeah Calgary is better...but best city in Canada? There's so much shit you can do in cities like Van and TO that you can't do in Calgary...

Vancouver = Nicest city to visit in Canada for sure but not the best city to live unless you are Asian due to the 65% Asian population. Traffic is horrible, housing costs too much, career employment opportunities are limited, crime is on the bad side. The number one reason Vancouver is not the best is the weather. Unless you've lived there for a long time it is hard to comprehend the lack of sunshine & dreariness. Its pretty tough if you come from a place like Calgary that sees more sunshine on average than any major city in Canada. If you can get over the weather Vancouver may be the best.

Toronto = Very multi-cultural which is good and tonnes of stuff to see & do, lots of lakes in the area. Gets very humid in the summer and lots of snow in the winter. Lots of career opportunities. Unfortunately the city is massive and sprawled out, housing isn't cheap, crime is more prevelant. It's a good city, not a great city as it isn't very scenic and there is alot of industrial and old areas. It's kind of the 'hip' city at the moment.

Montreal = Best restaurants hands down, best nightlife downtown, some very scenic areas, and despite the French population, people are quite friendly. It's in Quebec which can be a plus or minus depending on where you stand. Unfortunately the city is a dump. There are areas of abandoned factories & warehouses, people don't use trash cans & just toss their garbage on the road, downtown sidewalks are covered in fossilized bubblegum. The average Cab is a 1988 Cavalier.

Edmonton = No redeming qualities. Possibly the worst city of its size in North America (Canada's verison of Clevland). Old, dumpy, dirty, & cold. The only half ass quality is the river area but even Saskatoon can boast that. I'm not an Edmonton hater but I honetly can't stand the place and often wonder why people live there.

Calgary = Best overall city in Canada to live. Crime is limited to mostly Asian gangs, and the odd domestic despute. Cleanest downtown in Canada bar none and the rest of the city in on par with Ottawa for clenliness. Mountains are close, camping is close. Tonnes of career employment opportunities, young population base. The only drawbacks are the inconsistent weather & lack of lakes in the area.

[finboy]

Originally posted by heavyD


Calgary = Best overall city in Canada to live. Crime is limited to mostly Asian gangs, and the odd domestic despute. Cleanest downtown in Canada bar none and the rest of the city in on par with Ottawa for clenliness. Mountains are close, camping is close. Tonnes of career employment opportunities, young population base. The only drawbacks are the inconsistent weather & lack of lakes in the area.

and the last couple years the weather has SUCKED in the summer time

[AllGoNoShow]

Originally posted by 5.9 R/T


Like get capped at a boxing day sale!



:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!:goflames:

[SteveMo600]

Originally posted by GTS Jeff



Whoa let's not go overboard here...yeah Edmonton sucks and yeah Calgary is better...but best city in Canada? There's so much shit you can do in cities like Van and TO that you can't do in Calgary...

Calgary IS the best city in Canada. Van and TO both are still great cities but if you think about the overall living experience, I think Calgary takes the cake hands down.

BTW, I'd never live in Vancouver because of the constant moisture and I wouldn't live in Toronto because, well I hate the city. It seems like everybody in Toronto thinks they make Canada go round; it pisses me off.

[heavyD]

Originally posted by finboy
and the last couple years the weather has SUCKED in the summer time

I agree but we don't get the massive snow dumps they get in the east and you can't complain that the winter has been too cold this year. We had a guy from Toronto at work for a coupe of days last week and he was shocked at how little snow we had and how mild the temps were compared to what he left and went back to. He thought that people out west put up with 10 feet of snow & -20 deg. C all winter.:nut:

[Redlyne_mr2]

Originally posted by GTS Jeff



Whoa let's not go overboard here...yeah Edmonton sucks and yeah Calgary is better...but best city in Canada? There's so much shit you can do in cities like Van and TO that you can't do in Calgary...
Depends on what you mean by better..fun factor is subjective...TO is good if you like to shop, go to greasy clubs, or go see waterfalls and towers. Van is great for the asian scene and the ocean. Calgary rules for the skiing and car scene.
In terms of economic development, cleanliness, government and overall vibe Calgary over any city in Canada.

[Weapon_R]

Calgary is definately the cleanest and safest major city in Canada, but i'd never venture out to say that its the best in Canada. I honestly think that Toronto is a far more exciting place to be, and my friends who've gone to Montreal would pick up and leave in an instant if it weren't for their commitments in Calgary.

[b_t]

Originally posted by iceburns288


Wow, you sound like a real responsible guy.:rolleyes:

EDIT:


oh christ almighty, nice quotes. who the fuck cares about horsepower per liter, ya so what he's barely got 100/liter, but he has like 7 liters, and those cars are a LOT lighter then most people would think. The old early 1970s camaros were barely 3,000 pounds.. and the Corvettes with the 454 cubic inch motors were not much more.

[Redlyne_mr2]

Originally posted by Weapon_R
Calgary is definately the cleanest and safest major city in Canada, but i'd never venture out to say that its the best in Canada. I honestly think that Toronto is a far more exciting place to be, and my friends who've gone to Montreal would pick up and leave in an instant if it weren't for their commitments in Calgary.
TO gets old fast IMO..weather is shitty, its dirty as hell and its soo overpopulated. Montreal is nice but again the weather is shitty, its dirty, the Quebec gov. is gay and french canadians are insane.

[heavyD]

Originally posted by Weapon_R
Calgary is definately the cleanest and safest major city in Canada, but i'd never venture out to say that its the best in Canada. I honestly think that Toronto is a far more exciting place to be, and my friends who've gone to Montreal would pick up and leave in an instant if it weren't for their commitments in Calgary.

Exciting pertains to visits. Too many people get caught up in how new and interesting other places can be when visiting but realize that it's not so great after the monontony of the daily grind prevails. Everything gets old once you've spent a few years living there, then you realize that you are stuck in a sprawled out dirty mess of poor air quality, crime, ugly industrial areas, and all else that comes with a city of over 5 million people.

As for Montreal. Maybe your friends had some fun in the clubs with some easy frankophone women. It used to be the largest city in Canada but has been on decline for years, as Toronto has passed it & Vanvouver soon to overtake it for 2nd. There's really not alot going on there and it's a dump. Hell it makes Pittsburgh look squeeky clean by comparison. In Pittsburgh they at least cleaned up the city once the steel mills shut down and focussed on other industries while Montreal is dirty & run down and relies on the goverenment for handouts (aka: Adscam) while head offices move to Toronto & Calgary. Quebec City is really a much nicer city and has even more European flavour.

[szw]

Calgary loses lots of points for having shitty strip clubs.

[EK 2.0]

DSM's are shitty and un-reliable.;)

[BerserkerCatSplat]

Originally posted by b_t


oh christ almighty, nice quotes. who the fuck cares about horsepower per liter, ya so what he's barely got 100/liter, but he has like 7 liters, and those cars are a LOT lighter then most people would think. The old early 1970s camaros were barely 3,000 pounds.. and the Corvettes with the 454 cubic inch motors were not much more.

I laugh at people who insult 700HP cars for having low HP/litre. Because you just know that they don't have 700HP, period.

HP/L was a term invented so people with cylinder envy could feel good about themselves. ;)

[pinoyhero]

haha never been to that baord but sounds like fun

[95EagleAWD]

Originally posted by heavyD


Edmonton = No redeming qualities. Possibly the worst city of its size in North America (Canada's verison of Clevland). Old, dumpy, dirty, & cold. The only half ass quality is the river area but even Saskatoon can boast that. I'm not an Edmonton hater but I honetly can't stand the place and often wonder why people live there.



No redeeming qualities?

Awww... I wonder why we live here too... 1 million people live through these shitty cold winters every year; we're all fucking nuts.

But no redeeming qualities?

-West Ed
-Oilers
-Grand Prix
-Eskimos
-Many more sports (world's masters games, u-17 soccer, world track and field champs)

Much more, I just can't think of any right now.

And I'd rather live here than Saskatoon (or anywhere in Saskatchewan)

[EK 2.0]

and CART races...:burnout:

[iceburns288]

Originally posted by b_t
oh christ almighty, nice quotes. who the fuck cares about horsepower per liter, ya so what he's barely got 100/liter, but he has like 7 liters, and those cars are a LOT lighter then most people would think. The old early 1970s camaros were barely 3,000 pounds.. and the Corvettes with the 454 cubic inch motors were not much more.

I haven't figured out if you're agreeing with me or disagreeing...:confused:

[iceburns288]

Originally posted by BerserkerCatSplat
HP/L was a term invented so people with cylinder envy could feel good about themselves. ;)

Nah, nothin beats the fact the F430 makes the same power as the Z06 with half the displacement;)

[GTS Jeff]

Originally posted by iceburns288


Nah, nothin beats the fact the F430 makes the same power as the Z06 with half the displacement;) How about the fact that you're a spoiled teenager that talks a lot of shit? :rolleyes:

[BerserkerCatSplat]

Originally posted by iceburns288


Nah, nothin beats the fact the F430 makes the same power as the Z06 with half the displacement;)

Same power? I don't think so.

The F430 has 61% the displacement of the Z06, not 50%

The Z06 makes 505HP, while the F430 makes 15 less at 490HP. Which is less.

The Z06 makes 470lb-ft of torque. The F430 is a full 127lb-ft short of that mark, at 343lb-ft. Which is substantially less.

The Z06 does 0-60 in 3.7s, the F430 in 3.9s. Which is slower.

The Z06 has a top speed of 198MPH. The F430 tops out at 196MPH. Which is, again, less.

The Z06 costs $65,800. The F430 costs $180,000. Which is nearly three times as much as the Corvette. That's right, triple the price for a slower, less powerful car.


You can have your HP/L. Have fun with that. ;)

[cman]

/BeserkerCatSplatwned

[962 kid]

both of these threads are pretty hurtin :thumbsdow so to sum it up,

Keith303 = gay
v8killah = gay
Calgary + Flames > all
iceburns288 = pwnt

[Chandler_Racing]

Originally posted by iceburns288


Nah, nothin beats the fact the F430 makes the same power as the Z06 with half the displacement;)

What about the torque though, it won't even be close.

Even so, the Ferrari is nothing more than a status car. The z06 is a lot more car for the money.

[Altezza]

Originally posted by 5.9 R/T


Like get capped at a boxing day sale!



Originally posted by finboy


bwahahahahahahahaha :rofl:






Originally posted by AllGoNoShow




:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:



That was a sad event. I don't think it's something to laugh about. Girl was only 15 years old and was at the wrong place at the wrong time. I walked by the Foot Locker yesterday on Yonge and there are a lot of flowers and old friends occupying the space where she died.

[AllGoNoShow]

Originally posted by Altezza








That was a sad event. I don't think it's something to laugh about. Girl was only 15 years old and was at the wrong place at the wrong time. I walked by the Foot Locker yesterday on Yonge and there are a lot of flowers and old friends occupying the space where she died.


So whens the right place and right time to shoot someone then?

Exactly there is none. Stop pulling your pieces out to cap your problems away and deal with it like a man or just leave it alone.

EDIT: Don't get me wrong, very sad thing, haven't even been keeping it track of it but it is very sad. Although the saddest part of the whole thing is people doing stupid shit like that in the first place.

[szw]

Originally posted by AllGoNoShow



So whens the right place and right time to shoot someone then?

Not too bright are you?

[AllGoNoShow]

Originally posted by szw


Not too bright are you?

Whats ur point? Im saying there is no good time to shoot someone, wrong place wrong time is all the time for shooting osmeone.

[95EagleAWD]

Originally posted by Chandler_Racing


What about the torque though, it won't even be close.

Even so, the Ferrari is nothing more than a status car. The z06 is a lot more car for the money.

Ferrari's aren't just a status car. I'd take a Ferrari F430 over a Z06 any day, simply because, although the Z06 may be faster according to a magazine (which are consistent, very good drivers), the F430 in the real world would be just as fast.

Ferrari's are the world's best driving machines, bar none. Not just a showpiece.

[EK 2.0]

Originally posted by 95EagleAWD
Ferrari's are the world's best driving machines, bar none. Not just a showpiece.



pffft...you have obviously never driven a DSM then huh??

[BerserkerCatSplat]

Originally posted by 95EagleAWD


Ferrari's aren't just a status car. I'd take a Ferrari F430 over a Z06 any day, simply because, although the Z06 may be faster according to a magazine (which are consistent, very good drivers), the F430 in the real world would be just as fast.

Ferrari's are the world's best driving machines, bar none. Not just a showpiece.

I'm not saying the F430 would have huge performance deficiencies, but is it worth triple the price to have the same performance as the Z06 with a Ferrari badge? If it were my money on the line, I know I'd buy the Z06. And every time I got into the car, I'd feel good about how much of a bargain it was.

Heck, for $40,000 less than the F430, you can pick up a Ford GT that will blow the F430 so far into the weeds it'll need a compass to find its way out!

So, to sum things up:

For $114,000 less than the F430, you can buy a car with comparable, if not slightly better performance. (C6 Z06)

For $40,000 less, you can get an all-around faster and better-looking car. (Ford GT)

For $20,000 less, you can get a premiere GT car that also happens to be the sexiest car in the world. (AM DB9)

[iceburns288]

Originally posted by BerserkerCatSplat
Same power? I don't think so.

The F430 has 61% the displacement of the Z06, not 50%

The Z06 makes 505HP, while the F430 makes 15 less at 490HP. Which is less.

The Z06 makes 470lb-ft of torque. The F430 is a full 127lb-ft short of that mark, at 343lb-ft. Which is substantially less.
Holy I-take-everything-super-seriously batman, it was a joke. I know that 4.3 liters is not half of 7. I also know that the F430 makes less power than the Z06, but it's close.


The Z06 does 0-60 in 3.7s, the F430 in 3.9s. Which is slower.

The Z06 has a top speed of 198MPH. The F430 tops out at 196MPH. Which is, again, less.
I've seen that both the Z06 and the F430 do 3.5s, which is actually the same. Different sources, I suppose. Ferrari says the F430 does 199mph. 199 is more than 198, but not by anything, really.


The Z06 costs $65,800. The F430 costs $180,000. Which is nearly three times as much as the Corvette. That's right, triple the price for a slower, less powerful car.
You get a car that goes just as fast, brakes just as well, and handles just as well for 66k that you do for 180. However, you still get a MUCH better car when you buy the Ferrari. All I hear from people who have just driven a Z06 is "It's really fast, but..." The interior in the Z flat-out sucks. My sister's car has a nicer interior. The seats feel like absolute crap. I got tired of them after less than a minute in the car. You can literally feel the poor quality of the interior when you're sitting in the car. The F430 is NOTHING like this. Everything in the F430 interior nears perfection. The body panels actually line up, too. You get what you pay for.

It's also an added plus to not feel like you're about to die when in an F430 at a track day.;)

[BerserkerCatSplat]

Originally posted by iceburns288

You get what you pay for.



You sure do. You get a Ferrari badge. ;)


:hijack:

[962 kid]

Originally posted by BerserkerCatSplat


You sure do. You get a Ferrari badge. ;)


:hijack:

not quite... extra badging on the 430 is an expensive option ;)

but about the z06 vs 430, you could make the same argument for any two cars, like the carrera and the DB9. the carrera is faster, cheaper, etc etc. and yet people still buy the DB9 because it has charisma and a beautiful interior... same argument applies with the 430.

[iceburns288]

Originally posted by 962 kid
not quite... extra badging on the 430 is an expensive option ;)
All the options are expensive options!:cry:

Except satnav, I think there was an error where it was actually free for a while:dunno:

[BerserkerCatSplat]

Originally posted by 962 kid


but about the z06 vs 430, you could make the same argument for any two cars, like the carrera and the DB9. the carrera is faster, cheaper, etc etc. and yet people still buy the DB9 because it has charisma and a beautiful interior... same argument applies with the 430.

Hmm, I feel the Carrera and DB9 are in different categories altogether, the Carrera being a fast sports car and the DB9 being a large, heavy premium GT car. There's no arguing that the DB9 isn't exactly fast! It's not built for trackdays, it's built to cruise.

It really comes down to priorities. Is the nice interior worth $114,000? I dunno, maybe to some people. But I'm willing to wager that more people shell out that extra cash because of the badge, not the interior quality. There's a lot of posers out there (no, I'm not saying all Ferrari owners are posers!), and it's because of them that Ferrari can charge the somewhat outrageous prices for their cars. If money was no object, would I take the F430 over the Z06? Absolutely!

[keith303]

Original Post Removed. (Please read the Forum Rules and Terms of Use (http://forums.beyond.ca/articles.php?action=data&item=1) before posting again, or risk getting banned).

[iceburns288]

Originally posted by BerserkerCatSplat
Hmm, I feel the Carrera and DB9 are in different categories altogether, the Carrera being a fast sports car and the DB9 being a large, heavy premium GT car. There's no arguing that the DB9 isn't exactly fast! It's not built for trackdays, it's built to cruise.
Why'd you suggest it over the F430 then? I agree the owners of each car are looking for different things. I don't see why you'd buy a DB9 though, I mean... it's big enough to be a 4-seater, so it's not very sporty, but the two rear seats are absolutely useless. :nut:


It really comes down to priorities. Is the nice interior worth $114,000? I dunno, maybe to some people. But I'm willing to wager that more people shell out that extra cash because of the badge, not the interior quality. There's a lot of posers out there (no, I'm not saying all Ferrari owners are posers!), and it's because of them that Ferrari can charge the somewhat outrageous prices for their cars. If money was no object, would I take the F430 over the Z06? Absolutely!
Yes. Posers suck. And yeah, the F430 is worth that extra 100+ (especially the Spider!:drool: ) to me. It's more than the interior, too...:thumbsup:

^get the hell out of here too:thumbsdow

EDIT dangit Jaguar! I thought the car in Berserker's sig was a Ford :cry:

[AllGoNoShow]

Wow this didn't get that touch of beyond offtopic syndrome at all.....

[962 kid]

Originally posted by AllGoNoShow
Wow this didn't get that touch of beyond offtopic syndrome at all.....

bah, the original topic was retarded anyways :)

[iceburns288]

Originally posted by 962 kid
bah, the original topic was retarded anyways :)

stfu fgt:D

[DelSoln]

Calgary is a beautiful city. I've always admired your downtown compared to ours. I personally hate the one ways but I guess you get used to it. Also found parking to be a bitch with expensive rates lol. I'm also not a fan of having to attend school and being worried about my car being stolen. Glad we don't have assholes like that around the U of A. As for the incident in Toronto, I fail to see what is so funny about the death of a 15 year old girl and having 6 innocent people getting wounded.

[BerserkerCatSplat]

Originally posted by iceburns288

Why'd you suggest it over the F430 then? I agree the owners of each car are looking for different things. I don't see why you'd buy a DB9 though, I mean... it's big enough to be a 4-seater, so it's not very sporty, but the two rear seats are absolutely useless. :nut:

Oh, I just wanted to point out that there are better valued, faster, and better looking cars than the 430 for less money. Nobody looking for a trackable car is going to go DB9 shopping, that's for sure. But it sure is sexy. :D

(The new Jaguar doesn't look like a Ford! Look at my sig, imagine a Mk1 E-Type Jag, and then look at my sig again. That's where the styling came from! :love: )

[95EagleAWD]

Originally posted by EK 2.0




pffft...you have obviously never driven a DSM then huh??

Nah, I gave 'em up for Hondas... ;)

[iceburns288]

Originally posted by BerserkerCatSplat
Oh, I just wanted to point out that there are better valued, faster, and better looking cars than the 430 for less money. Nobody looking for a trackable car is going to go DB9 shopping, that's for sure. But it sure is sexy. :D
Oh come on the DB9's not faster ;).


(The new Jaguar doesn't look like a Ford! Look at my sig, imagine a Mk1 E-Type Jag, and then look at my sig again. That's where the styling came from! :love: )
Oh boo! That thing will never be as great as the original XKE. Plus I bet it doesn't sound nearly as good:drool:

[DelSoln]

Originally posted by 95EagleAWD


Nah, I gave 'em up for Hondas... ;)

Can't wait to see that NSX in the city. :)

[95EagleAWD]

And just for kicks, the DB9 is not the most beautiful car made.

It would be the V8 Vantage... :drool:

No backseats, nice engine.... I love it.

[95EagleAWD]

Originally posted by DelSoln


Can't wait to see that NSX in the city. :)

Talon goes up for sale April 15th. :D

Should have the NSX in town a week or so later... as soon as the snow (if it ever comes) melts.

[Chandler_Racing]

Originally posted by 95EagleAWD


Ferrari's aren't just a status car. I'd take a Ferrari F430 over a Z06 any day, simply because, although the Z06 may be faster according to a magazine (which are consistent, very good drivers), the F430 in the real world would be just as fast.

Ferrari's are the world's best driving machines, bar none. Not just a showpiece.
So what exactly is the real world? On a residential street? Or a race track?

I'll take a car that is styled resonable well, and outperforms the ferrari for ~1/3 the price, but hey that is just me. If the badge on the front of the car is worth 100k to you then enjoy.

[Z_Fan]

The new Z06 ... IMO ... is one of the best cars ever made. This is inclusive of all exotics. Bang for buck it is currently untouchable.

[EK 2.0]

holyeee has this gotten off topic...

[95EagleAWD]

Originally posted by Chandler_Racing

So what exactly is the real world? On a residential street? Or a race track?

I'll take a car that is styled resonable well, and outperforms the ferrari for ~1/3 the price, but hey that is just me. If the badge on the front of the car is worth 100k to you then enjoy.

The real world is not professional test drivers making every attempt to launch the car perfectly. The real world is Joe Schmoe who doesn't really know how to drive that Z06, so that absolutely tiny performance "advantage" is about as good as a hemmehroid on your ass.

Magazine numbers are one thing and one thing only: The benchmark. Most drivers can't post times as well as the mag guys can.

[BerserkerCatSplat]

Originally posted by iceburns288

Oh come on the DB9's not faster ;).



Of course it's not, it's the Ford GT that's faster! The DB9 is the better-looking one. (Of course, the GT looks better as well. :D )




Originally posted by EK 2.0

holyeee has this gotten off topic...



Would you prefer we were still discussing whether 780tuners are "fagts" or not? ;) I know I certainly like the current topic better! :rofl:

[EK 2.0]

Originally posted by BerserkerCatSplat
Would you prefer we were still discussing whether 780tuners are "fagts" or not? ;) I know I certainly like the current topic better! :rofl:


Meh, that's why it's still open...for now

[BerserkerCatSplat]

Originally posted by 95EagleAWD


The real world is not professional test drivers making every attempt to launch the car perfectly. The real world is Joe Schmoe who doesn't really know how to drive that Z06, so that absolutely tiny performance "advantage" is about as good as a hemmehroid on your ass.

Magazine numbers are one thing and one thing only: The benchmark. Most drivers can't post times as well as the mag guys can.

Thing is, the same holds true for the Ferrari. Joe Shmoe isn't going to be able to wring out the F430 for every bit of its potential, either. I'd say that the F430's 137lb-ft torque deficit is going to show up no matter who drives the car. (The F430 only weighs 67 lbs more than the Z06, so weight isn't really going to factor in either.) 137 is a big gap, and I think even our friend Joe Shmoe would be able to take advantage of it.

[962 kid]

Originally posted by BerserkerCatSplat


Thing is, the same holds true for the Ferrari. Joe Shmoe isn't going to be able to wring out the F430 for every bit of its potential, either. I'd say that the F430's 137lb-ft torque deficit is going to show up no matter who drives the car. (The F430 only weighs 67 lbs more than the Z06, so weight isn't really going to factor in either.) 137 is a big gap, and I think even our friend Joe Shmoe would be able to take advantage of it.

that's why god invented launch control and paddle shifters ;)

[Chandler_Racing]

Originally posted by 95EagleAWD


The real world is not professional test drivers making every attempt to launch the car perfectly. The real world is Joe Schmoe who doesn't really know how to drive that Z06, so that absolutely tiny performance "advantage" is about as good as a hemmehroid on your ass.

Magazine numbers are one thing and one thing only: The benchmark. Most drivers can't post times as well as the mag guys can.

So essentially what you are trying to say is if you get behind the wheel of a Ferrari, you morph into Schumacher, and behind the wheel of a z06 you turn into Sato?

If you don't see the fault in what you're saying, i'm not here to spell it out for you.

[95EagleAWD]

Originally posted by Chandler_Racing


So essentially what you are trying to say is if you get behind the wheel of a Ferrari, you morph into Schumacher, and behind the wheel of a z06 you turn into Sato?

If you don't see the fault in what you're saying, i'm not here to spell it out for you.

I'm saying, if you put an average driver into the Z06 and an average driver into the F430, you'd probably end up with around the same performance.

[v8killah]

Originally posted by 962 kid
both of these threads are pretty hurtin :thumbsdow so to sum it up,

Keith303 = gay
v8killah = gay
Calgary + Flames > all
iceburns288 = pwnt

Man fuck off with your bullshit, i didnt say anything to you but you are a faggot.

and what does pwnt mean?

[cman]

another form of owned.

[iceburns288]

Originally posted by 95EagleAWD
I'm saying, if you put an average driver into the Z06 and an average driver into the F430, you'd probably end up with around the same performance.

Nah, you'd get more performance out of the F430, seeing as it's much more of a driver's car.;)

[schurchill39]

Wow 3 topics in a 3 page thread. Thats a pretty good ratio.:thumbsup:

And to who ever said Calgary was the sunniest city in canada, they are mistaken (or just refering to the sunniest major city). Medicine Hat is actually, and has been for quite some time, the sunniest city in all of canada... to bad we are sooooo small. I think we touched 60,000 this past year though:cry:

[5.9 R/T]

Fucking oilers suck!

[95EagleAWD]

Originally posted by 5.9 R/T
Fucking oilers suck!

Bah.

We'll get the Flames next time. :guns:

[Hakkola]

I can't see how anybody can compare a Chevy to a Ferrari. Sure, comparable performance but it ends there.

Chevy = a dime a dozen, crappy interior, poor fit and finish, and the exterior looks like cheap plastic with crappy paint. It is however a great car, and if you want performance and can't afford a Ferrari then go for it, I'd drive one if that was the case.

Ferrari looks great, not just any joe can own one, interior is a hell of a lot nicer, looks amazing, and you get to feel like a king when you drive one.

If I drove a Ferrari and raced a Chevy and lost I wouldn't me too sad, why? Cuz I'm cruising in luxury, the car is rare, and there isn't much that looks nicer driving down the strip.

Personally, I'd rather have an NSX than a Corvette, but that's just my opinion, I know the NSX is overpriced and the Corvette has better performance, honestly I'm just not a fan of Chevy, especially the quality of their interior.

[faggot]

Originally posted by Hakkola
I can't see how anybody can compare a Chevy to a Ferrari. Sure, comparable performance but it ends there.

Chevy = a dime a dozen, crappy interior, poor fit and finish, and the exterior looks like cheap plastic with crappy paint. It is however a great car, and if you want performance and can't afford a Ferrari then go for it, I'd drive one if that was the case.

Ferrari looks great, not just any joe can own one, interior is a hell of a lot nicer, looks amazing, and you get to feel like a king when you drive one.

If I drove a Ferrari and raced a Chevy and lost I wouldn't me too sad, why? Cuz I'm cruising in luxury, the car is rare, and there isn't much that looks nicer driving down the strip.

Personally, I'd rather have an NSX than a Corvette, but that's just my opinion, I know the NSX is overpriced and the Corvette has better performance, honestly I'm just not a fan of Chevy, especially the quality of their interior.

People have personal preferences. I for example want power and to go fast and shit my pants. You want a slow car (for lots of money) because the interior is nice.

[l8braker]

Originally posted by faggot


People have personal preferences. I for example want power and to go fast and shit my pants. You want a slow car (for lots of money) because the interior is nice.

Any Ferrari is by no means slow. Try again.

Well said Hakkola.