1993 Ford Probe GT??? ANY GOOD???

[mike_papps]

Hey, just looking at purchasing a 1993 Ford Probe gt... off a fellow beyond member.. But ive heard horrible things about them. they always break down. super unreliable.. now the car is only 3100$ but still thats enough money to lose.. can anyone give me some light on the situation. i currently drive a 92 integra and dont mind it... but i like the style and all of the probe.. PLEASE HELP!!! haha...

[403Gemini]

ive never heard anything horrible about them, i like them myself.

[tapout]

Originally posted by 403Gemini
ive never heard anything horrible about them, i like them myself. :werd: any car that you bag on will break down i thing they are good

[GT2NV]

id say get it inspected and then if its all good go for it... they look pretty good if you mod em up... ive owned mien for 4 years and ive only ever had to do cv joints on it new tires... and brakes, and i drive my car pretty hard... it all depends on its history, frequent oil changes are the #1 thing that will cause it to be unreliable but if they have all records go for it! i love my probe haha

heres mine
http://www.unleash.tovex.net/images/gallery/90civicrider_1114207954.jpg:thumbsup: the one thing you cant beat with the probe though is its body styling was way ahead of its time... it fits in with todays 2000 cars although it was build a logn time ago... anyways hopefully you get it! its a great car imo

[403Gemini]

Originally posted by GT2NV
id say get it inspected and then if its all good go for it... they look pretty good if you mod em up... ive owned mien for 4 years and ive only ever had to do cv joints on it new tires... and brakes, and i drive my car pretty hard... it all depends on its history, frequent oil changes are the #1 thing that will cause it to be unreliable but if they have all records go for it! i love my probe haha

heres mine
http://www.unleash.tovex.net/images/gallery/90civicrider_1114207954.jpg:thumbsup: the one thing you cant beat with the probe though is its body styling was way ahead of its time... it fits in with todays 2000 cars although it was build a logn time ago... anyways hopefully you get it! its a great car imo

i will agree, this is the reason why i like probes ;) sexiest probe i ever see rippin around the south end of calgary :D

[mike_papps]

hmmmm ive heard that most of them are garbage.. thats why you never see any around... and the repairs can be costly due to the large engine in the tiny engine bay... done a wack load of research but have no personal experiances or opinions...

[GT2NV]

yeah and you never stop to say hi haha:thumbsdow


p.s why the fuck is my avatar ned flanders now haha:confused:

[GT2NV]

Originally posted by mike_papps
hmmmm ive heard that most of them are garbage.. thats why you never see any around... and the repairs can be costly due to the large engine in the tiny engine bay... done a wack load of research but have no personal experiances or opinions...
theres is some truth to that statement, because of having to get to the oposite side of the engine you have to completly take of the intake manifold.... as for unreliability though thats all case sensative..... its up to you i bought one and im happy with mine lol im not the king of probe knowledge but you should check out www.probetalk.com theres some pretty knowledgable guys on there that would help you out alot more than i can:thumbsup:

[mike_papps]

i have checked that site out but it tells nothign about purchasing one.. just how to fix them.. and in order to post i would need to make a account and i dont wanna make a useless account for a car that i dont have... thanks for the heads up though i already checked that site... so you say you have had good luck with yurs eh... i guess everycar is different.. i just dont wanna buy a lemon.. id rather drive what i have...

[403Gemini]

Originally posted by GT2NV
yeah and you never stop to say hi haha:thumbsdow


p.s why the fuck is my avatar ned flanders now haha:confused:

i never see you guys out there anymore (probably cause the season is over...) but yea next yr i will :D

and i wouldnt worry about buying a lemon as long as you do an inspection. i know a couple peeps with probes and ive never heard anything bad about em.

speaking of probe masters, where the hell did sinister probe disappear too?

[GT2NV]

Originally posted by mike_papps
i guess everycar is different.. i just dont wanna buy a lemon.. id rather drive what i have... if youve got a good car dont get rid of it man... if your teg has problems then think about a new car and not until then:thumbsup:

[mike_papps]

im not like that.. i dont sell cars that have problems... i sell cars that ive grown out of or want something new... in this case.. im interested in the probe but dont really wanna have 5k in repair bills before i know it....

[ohboyitsme]

Lemon Aid actually rates them as a good buy. Like any car , get it mechanically inspected and if it passes I'd buy it.

I think I remember the posting for tyhis one it had a new engine it it with only 90k on it. As long as there is nothing major that shows up on the inspection for that kind of money I'd jump on it.

[grrouch]

there such good cars:thumbsup:

[Mazstyle]

Where to begin, The probe gt is probably one of fords best cars, next to the escort GT. Don't laugh just yet, both cars are basically mazda clones, with ford bodies. The EGT is the sibling of the protege/323 <bg chassis code>, and the PGT is the sibling of the mx6/626 and the mx-3 also shares the same drivetrain.

I could go on and on, but the car is definitely not a lemon most people with proper maintenance get 250,000+kms easy out of them, mx mx-3 had 240k when I pulled the motor <same k-series engine as the pgt just a smaller bore> And I was very abusive to it, over revved constantly and I even put the bottle to it, I still couldn't destroy it.

The bad side is major repairs <if they ever do come up> cost quite a bit because of the somewhat cramped engine bay. I think the T-belt replacement is something like 6 hours labour, and the head gaskets are pretty high too but those things don't really go very often.

In conclusion, the PGT is a good buy which I always recommend to people who are on a budget, you basically get a ford price on a japanese import. Plus it's pretty quick for its time period ~165 hp /~165 ft/lbs and it still looks great today.


Also the PGT was motor trends car of the year for 1993...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Probe

[Bonka]

Common mechanicals problems (that I have :thumbsdow )

Oil leaks (spark plug cover gasket, manifold gasket)
Ripped boots

Also check for oil consumption. Suppose to consume a little oil but anything excessive is bad. If I were you I'd run for stored CEL codes with a paperclip. Go to ProbeTalk on how to do it.

Pretty good car aside for the oil leaks. There's no recirc feature so you gotta sniff that stuff..

[Weapon_R]

There's nothing wrong with them. They are reliable and will go forever if they are maintained. I've seen many in the 200k+ range and they are still running strong.

[mike_papps]

thanks guys...

[90Tegra]

very nice looking cars, it has the mx6 engine so u got the "mazda" reliablility and did i mention they look hella good.

[CryoCarnage]

they break a lot man. My friend had a 93 GT and constant problems. at the very end of it's life it was running on 2 cylinders. But they look nice and as long as you repair these fords, they should be a fun ride. oh and i see a lot of them in junkyards. Parts should be relativerly cheap :D

[GT2NV]

haha i wish i could find one in a junkyard... ive been looking for 2 years for some 97 tail lights:(

[GT2NV]

Originally posted by Bonka
Common mechanicals problems (that I have :thumbsdow )

Oil leaks / Ripped boots

yeah those are my 2 problems:( o well its a 12 year old car

[HRD2PLZ]

Probetalk is a great site IMO :thumbsup: Helped me out countless times with my Probe. I have never been able to work on a vehicle of my own so much!

I had a 1994 Probe GT. It was a great car, I still like the looks of them and to this day contemplate buying one (should I ever find a '97 GTS). I would recommend servicing it at Mazda since the car is Mazda internals.

I had a few problems with mine. When I bought the car, the seller provided receipts showing the the timing belt and tensioner belt had been replaced. A month later the car died. I had it towed to Ford and it sat there for 2 weeks while the monkeys tried to figure out what was wrong with it. Apparently the timing belt had jumped, so I had to replace the timing belt and tensioner belts again. That bill was somewhere to the tune of $1600 if I remember correctly.

I also had some problems with the oil pressure regulator as it kept leaking. This was a $120 fix. Other than that, the car was great. If you are going to drive it in the winter you might want to consider investing in some winter tires, I found that out quickly my first winter :rofl:

Best of Luck with your decision :thumbsup:

And actually, just a few months ago I saw someone on Beyond selling my old PGT :D

[B20EF]

Originally posted by Mazstyle
Where to begin, The probe gt is probably one of fords best cars, next to the escort GT. Don't laugh just yet, both cars are basically mazda clones, with ford bodies. The EGT is the sibling of the protege/323 &lt;bg chassis code&gt;, and the PGT is the sibling of the mx6/626 and the mx-3 also shares the same drivetrain.

I could go on and on, but the car is definitely not a lemon most people with proper maintenance get 250,000+kms easy out of them, mx mx-3 had 240k when I pulled the motor &lt;same k-series engine as the pgt just a smaller bore&gt; And I was very abusive to it, over revved constantly and I even put the bottle to it, I still couldn't destroy it.

The bad side is major repairs &lt;if they ever do come up&gt; cost quite a bit because of the somewhat cramped engine bay. I think the T-belt replacement is something like 6 hours labour, and the head gaskets are pretty high too but those things don't really go very often.

In conclusion, the PGT is a good buy which I always recommend to people who are on a budget, you basically get a ford price on a japanese import. Plus it's pretty quick for its time period ~165 hp /~165 ft/lbs and it still looks great today.


Also the PGT was motor trends car of the year for 1993...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Probe

:werd:

[heavyD]

The Probe GT is exactly the same as the Mazda MX-6. The only differences is the interior, exterior styling, wheel sizes, & suspension tuning.

Basically the Probe has Mazda reliability which can be excellent but Mazda puts out more lemons than Honda or Toyota and parts are expensive.

Any 14 year old car is only going to be as reliable as it's been maintained by the previous owners. It's not so much the model or manufacturer it's how it was maintained. If the car is in excellent condition and treated well by previous owners, it should be a good buy. If it was not, it won't. Simple as that.

[mike_papps]

but i hear all these scary stories about the disrubuters and stalling and stuff. i read on probe talk that its common to go through these things all the time with these cars.. sometimes exsessivly. I hate to beleive what i read though...just because its not personal experiance. You right maybe those cars have been bagged and road hard... just wanna make sure im not buying a pinto! haha.. i love the style and the look of these cars but it still says ford. Now if it said acura or honda.. we wouldnt be having this convo. Its hard to change my ways...

[HRD2PLZ]

You know, my Probe was no worse than any of my Honda's Acura's.

I have had:

00' Acura 1.6 EL
99' Accord EX-L
99' Acura TL
03' Acura MDX

and trust me, after we get rid of the TL and MDX, there will be no more Honda's in this household. With the exception of the Accord, none of them have been anything other than a headache and disappointment.

And this is coming from a guy who absolutely DESPISES Ford!

[GT2NV]

haha its funny because my whole family has acuras

91 integra (b16a) (brothers)
99 integra gsr (moms)
2006 acura TL (dads)

but we all have little to no problems with your vehicals.... i guess its just because we keep them well maintained..

[CryoCarnage]

Originally posted by GT2NV
haha i wish i could find one in a junkyard... ive been looking for 2 years for some 97 tail lights:(
ill look around. if i find soem that arent cracked ill let you know :D

[HRD2PLZ]

Originally posted by GT2NV
haha its funny because my whole family has acuras

91 integra (b16a) (brothers)
99 integra gsr (moms)
2006 acura TL (dads)

but we all have little to no problems with your vehicals.... i guess its just because we keep them well maintained..

We always service ours at Honda/Acura. I suppose its just a combination of some quality issues and dealer service that has left such a bad taste in our mouth.

[mike_papps]

ive had a wack load of hondas and acuras... nothing was a problem at all.. ive actually had a ton of vehicle.. dont knwo if its good luck or good buying but ive never had a bad one... just wanna continue the trend..

[mike_papps]

guys not getting back to me.. looks like i may have a no go on the probe issue... still have hope for a white one though... ill keep searchin...

[Mazstyle]

Originally posted by heavyD

Basically the Probe has Mazda reliability which can be excellent but Mazda puts out more lemons than Honda or Toyota and parts are expensive.


This is true, toyota/nissan/hondacura are the top imports for quality, mazda is very close but still slightly under those guys. Unfortunately mazda is getting worse because they are starting to put ford engines in the newer mazdas... I suppose time will tell tho

And regarding the ignition problems <distributor> There's a fairly easy fix just convert it to run an external coil w/GM HEI module when your disty's goes, it only costs ~$100 as opposed to the new $565 distributor from the dealership <kramer mazdas price - I shit you not>

[403Gemini]

Originally posted by Mazstyle


This is true, toyota/nissan/hondacura are the top imports for quality, mazda is very close but still slightly under those guys. Unfortunately mazda is getting worse because they are starting to put ford engines in the newer mazdas... I suppose time will tell tho

And regarding the ignition problems &lt;distributor&gt; There's a fairly easy fix just convert it to run an external coil w/GM HEI module when your disty's goes, it only costs ~$100 as opposed to the new $565 distributor from the dealership &lt;kramer mazdas price - I shit you not&gt; :dunno:

my buddy has a ford with over 3xx,xxx kms on it and it runs crazy smooth

[mike_papps]

its all up in the air depending on prices.. hard for me to get to calgary... i live in medicne hat.. but also looking into purchasing a pathfinder as well.. we will have to see.. but sounds liek a probe could be fun....

[mike_papps]

OK GUYS NEW ONE FOR YA!!!! 1993 Ford Probe GT or a 1995 Eagle Talon AWD TSI?? The talon is more but a faster car.. gimme yur opionions... i need to buy by the weekend...!!

[grrouch]

1993 PROBE GT ALL THE WAY!!! hahahaha

[TEAMFaint]

I vote for a 5th gen Alltrac Celica :thumbsup:

Hey man, I know two people in town that own ford probes, and only one of them have seen problems, and it was an oil leak as previously stated, but luckily for him, only happened once. (his is a 92 Probe GT red)

The other is a pretty good "car friend" I guess you can say, and the so called "problem" he is experiencing is that the timing belt is going on him, but that happens with every car.

Here is his cardomain site. If you want I could probably grab a phone number from him if you wanted, then you could check out his 93 Probe GT and perhaps take it for a ride and see if you like the way the car is.

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/291361

I think they are really sweet rides, I almost bought that exact car but it sold, then I ended up with a 92 Plymouth Laser, and this DSM had no troubles at all.

But ya if you can pick up that probe for cheap ($2000...ya thats cheap haha) I'd get it inspected and if it passes..go for it!!

[mike_papps]

isnt that jeremy winterton.. haha.. yeah i know him too.. family friend i guess.. havent talked to him in a while though... i knew he had a red one but havent discussed it very much...

[HRD2PLZ]

Originally posted by mike_papps
isnt that jeremy winterton.. haha.. yeah i know him too.. family friend i guess.. havent talked to him in a while though... i knew he had a red one but havent discussed it very much...


Yes it is... I met him a couple times back when I had my Probe. I can't believe he still has it!

The 92 Probes were the 1st gen, 93's were the first of the second gens.