HELP Rubbing on Integra

[hoppy2018]

I just installed a set of lowering springs on my 98 integra. The drop is about 2", I also just got a set of 17x7 rims with 204/40/r17 tires. When i hit a bump or corner kinda hard the tires rub up on my fenders.

If anybody knows whats going on to cause this please share.


when i installed the springs the instructions said to cut the bumpstops in half. I didnt cut the bumpstops when i installed them. Could this have anything to do with the rubbing?





thanks alot

[TurboTEGRA]

Wrong offset i would say

[Z24_3.1.]

or rubber profile

[stevieo]

no the rubber profile is correct

[hoppy2018]

Originally posted by TurboTEGRA
Wrong offset i would say

Thats kinda what i was thinking, except they dont rub oin my buddys car, how would i find out what the offset is?

Also the profile of the rubber is 205/40/r17 which is the normal size for honda/acura 4x100 bolt

[stevieo]

should say on the inside of the rim

what kinda rims are they?
and did your springs sag at all??

[hoppy2018]

Originally posted by stevieo
should say on the inside of the rim

what kinda rims are they?
and did your springs sag at all??

Ill check the offset.

They are 17x7 RSS Muro Rims
Tires are Nexen 205/40/zr17

The springs do sag a little, the rims dont seem to tuck in the fender, i was driving with 3 people in my car and every bump the tires would hit the fenders.

[stevieo]

if they don't tuck nicely into the fender that means the offset may be off by a little, can you take a picture?

[Drsuce]

a stiffer shock might help aswell....

stock shocks with aftermarkets springs = nono

my GT has edelbrock springs and stock shocks and it rubs the left front like a mofo.

my cobra has eibach springs with kyb shocks, no rubbing and the ride quality and handling is SUPERB

canadian tire sells spring spacers, not sure how well they work. it may be worth a try tho... it looks like a little chunk or rubber or metal that sits in the coil :D

[Aleks]

I used to have a teg and my bro has one too. His springs were H&R sport (soft) mine were H&R race (hard). He rubs like crazy with my rims on. I NEVER rubed. Stiffer springs make all the difference in the world. On a teg that is that low you need to have a stiff spring.

[hoppy2018]

Originally posted by stevieo
if they don't tuck nicely into the fender that means the offset may be off by a little, can you take a picture?

Ya ill take a picture tomorrow and post it up.
the offset is 40 which im pretty sure is correct.



Originally posted by Aleks
I used to have a teg and my bro has one too. His springs were H&R sport (soft) mine were H&R race (hard). He rubs like crazy with my rims on. I NEVER rubed. Stiffer springs make all the difference in the world. On a teg that is that low you need to have a stiff spring.

If u never rubbed with the race springs maybe i should look into getting those. Do the race springs have a harsh ride or is it fairly comfortable? also were u running 17's with the race springs?

[Aleks]

Originally posted by hoppy2018


Ya ill take a picture tomorrow and post it up.
the offset is 40 which im pretty sure is correct.




If u never rubbed with the race springs maybe i should look into getting those. Do the race springs have a harsh ride or is it fairly comfortable? also were u running 17's with the race springs?

I ran 16s. they were 205-46/R16 but like i said my brother rubbed crazy with them on softer springs. It's all in the spring rates. The lower you go to higher the rate has to be so you don't bottom out. And yes it was pretty hard riding but with good shocks I got used to it after a while.

Here is how it looked. 2" drop up front and 1.75" in the back.

http://www.dc5ab.com/forums/uploads/post-34-1113243939.jpg
http://www.dc5ab.com/forums/uploads/post-34-1113244003.jpg
http://www.dc5ab.com/forums/uploads/post-34-1115697867.jpg

[EG_Civic]

roll your fenders

[stevieo]

if your offset is +40 then it has to be your springs like aleks mentioned, what kind of springs/shocks you running??

[hoppy2018]

Originally posted by EG_Civic
roll your fenders

i tried rolling them myself and all the paint cracked:thumbsdow

[Weapon_R]

You don't need to roll your fenders. Try a stiffer spring or a different offset instead. If a professional doesn't roll your fenders, it'll look bad.

[hoppy2018]

Originally posted by Weapon_R
You don't need to roll your fenders. Try a stiffer spring or a different offset instead. If a professional doesn't roll your fenders, it'll look bad.

Ya, anybody have any good ideas on a set of stiffer springs but with a decent ride quality.
I was thinking either h&r race or neuspeed race?

I cant really get a different offset because i just bought the rims brand new.

[hoppy2018]

Originally posted by stevieo
if they don't tuck nicely into the fender that means the offset may be off by a little, can you take a picture?

Here is some pics of the front and rear drop. the wheels dont look like they wanna tuck in the wheel well.

[hoppy2018]

Front

[hoppy2018]

Pic of car

[Aleks]

It definatelly looks like a combination of spring that is too soft and a bit of offset. Since you don't wanna change your rims, you should get stiffer springs and definatelly some shocks too. I recommend Kyb AGX shocks, they are fairly cheap and work well. Don't lower your car on race springs and stock shocks it won't work.

[hoppy2018]

when i installed the springs the instructions said to cut the bumpstops in half. I didnt cut the bumpstops when i installed them. Could this have anything to do with the rubbing?

[hoppy2018]

anybody know what cutting the bumpstops does?

[91_Integz]

my car is lower than yours and with 17's mine doesn't rub. I have Neuspeed springs.

[ls/vtec-crx]

Originally posted by hoppy2018
anybody know what cutting the bumpstops does?

doesn't have anything to do with the bumpstop......cutting the bumpstop just allows for more shock travel with a lower spring.........it's definately the offset of the wheel.........i was running a 2.5inch drop on my ITR with 18inch wheels and it didn't rub at all!!!!

[hoppy2018]

Originally posted by 91_Integz
my car is lower than yours and with 17's mine doesn't rub. I have Neuspeed springs.

what kind of neuspeed springs are u running? Also what is the offset?


Originally posted by ls/vtec-crx


doesn't have anything to do with the bumpstop......cutting the bumpstop just allows for more shock travel with a lower spring.........it's definately the offset of the wheel.........i was running a 2.5inch drop on my ITR with 18inch wheels and it didn't rub at all!!!!

So what should the offset be on my wheels?
they read 17x7 40+offset is that right for integra?

[Bonka]

Did you get it aligned after lowering? Maybe something is bent or maybe you need some more negative camber.........

[hoppy2018]

Originally posted by Bonka
Did you get it aligned after lowering? Maybe something is bent or maybe you need some more negative camber.........

no i didnt get an allignment because i didnt know if i was going to change the springs out.

And yes i definitly need some negative camber, but then i can kiss my tires goodbye.

[frostyda9]

Strange. Here's a pic of the exact same thing on my car... 205/40/17 with a 40mm offset. I have NEVER rubbed on the fenders :dunno:

Were your friends grossly overweight perhaps? ;)

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y38/frostyDA9/IMG_5095.jpg

[euro_racer]

i had 17's on my integra too and it was lower aswell and i never rubbed unless i had a full car :dunno:

i had it lowered on coil-overs and KYB shocks, ride confort was perfect, almost as conftorable as stock but deffinately better cornering and responce :thumbsup:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v630/karnaibsg/Picture006.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v630/karnaibsg/Picture001.jpg

changing the shocks makes quite a big difference

[frostyda9]

Originally posted by hoppy2018



And yes i definitly need some negative camber, but then i can kiss my tires goodbye.

After you dropped it, you should have been at a reasonably negative angle. I can't see dialing in *more* negative camber on a dropped Integra unless it's an all out track car, or you work at a tire shop.

[stevieo]

haha i have some bad camber on my integra

my car looks like a drift car hahaha

[hoppy2018]

Originally posted by euro_racer
i had 17's on my integra too and it was lower aswell and i never rubbed unless i had a full car :dunno:

i had it lowered on coil-overs and KYB shocks, ride confort was perfect, almost as conftorable as stock but deffinately better cornering and responce :thumbsup:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v630/karnaibsg/Picture006.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v630/karnaibsg/Picture001.jpg

changing the shocks makes quite a big difference

My car doesnt rub unless i corner real hard just by myself but with a like 3people in the car its rubbing every bump.

What is the offset on your rims?

[hoppy2018]

Originally posted by frostyda9


After you dropped it, you should have been at a reasonably negative angle. I can't see dialing in *more* negative camber on a dropped Integra unless it's an all out track car, or you work at a tire shop.

I just mean't that if my tires tucked a bit more in the wheelwell i wouldn't be having these rubbing issues.

[hoppy2018]

Originally posted by frostyda9
Strange. Here's a pic of the exact same thing on my car... 205/40/17 with a 40mm offset. I have NEVER rubbed on the fenders :dunno:

Were your friends grossly overweight perhaps? ;)

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y38/frostyDA9/IMG_5095.jpg

LOL, No they are all about average weight.
Maybe because ur car is a different style they may not rub, i dont know.