For you guys who don't like vee-dubs!!

[DUBBED]

http://camo.flage.net/albums/albuq25/eek2.gif
http://homepage.mac.com/gtifrank/.Public/cu4.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/gtifrank/.Public/cu5.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/gtifrank/.Public/cu1.jpg

[Audi Kid]

fucking amazing.

[Zephyr]

wow that is CLEAN

[cocoabrova]

:drool:Nice veedub:thumbsup:

[DUBBED]

im fucking in love with that car... wish i had the cash for that kit

[Ben]

WOOHOO!!

Go GTI

http://www.psylence.com/bens-gti2.jpg

[DUBBED]

Originally posted by Ben
WOOHOO!!

Go GTI

http://www.psylence.com/bens-gti2.jpg

haha i new youd like that one ben!!


:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Pete92SL]

it looks really nice...It also looks like a newer generation then it actually is!

Pete

[DUBBED]

new body kit from cult society...

made for 93-99 golfs... to look like 99.5 and up... mkiv

[04blackMAX]

nice car..so clean...rims look gheeeeyyyyy

[hjr]

Sweet Rims. 15" BBS with lips. Very euro-stylin.

[EG STyLeZ]

holy shit that's pretty nice!!

[Dj_Stylz]

wow amazing

[MrX]

Oh so pimpin':drool: :drool:

[ConVict]

To each their own... But it needs new rims :dunno:

[MrX]

Originally posted by ConVict
To each their own... But it needs new rims :dunno:

yes to each their own. But I would opt for keeping the rims and going for the euro look.

[pulse_crx]

thats pretty fat

[outsider]

SWEET!

[EstoMax]

hehe i luv vw.. but i dono im not down with megaspoked rims like bbs... i wanna get a jetta and imho the best wheels are audi TT ones.

[EstoMax]

pix from vwvortex.com
im down with this color and these wheels. (TT wheels)
http://tiger.towson.edu/users/tcampb1/JettaA.jpg

and golf front end looks very nice too
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid38/p4f3716371cab118f0b9b7f200eabeeaf/fd0dc60d.jpg

max

[Fluidic]

All pics FANTASTIC!

[lammer]

that is oneeeeee smooooooth ride.

[Dj_Stylz]

yea they look very awsome!!!

[Voodoo Child]

I can honestly say I don't like that first yellow car.
I'm not a fan of golf's/GTI's to begin with and I'm going to have to side with Convict on this one, it needs new rims.
But to each his own.

VC

[tegdream]

that golf needs some huge deepdish rims...maybe some Oettingers...and some smoked tail lights so we can pretend its not a GL........the jetta with the TT wheels (red)...loooks crazy....props to Lt. Max on his first intelligent post! :clap:

[benyl]

It's a cream dream...

[RiceCake]

The yellow one is phat, but alike most people here, something with less spokes, and possible deep dish would complete it. :)

[ACS-e36]

nice but i dont like the rims on the first one... looks the those buick rims or something
2nd one isnt bad.. nice and clean

[EstoMax]

hey tegdream stop bothering me!
thanks i guess :confused:

max

[shadowz]

Dope wheels , the car looks fresh

[Speed_RaSiR]

I still don't like VW's... And I used to drive a Corrado VR6 if anyone cares. :thumbsdow

[EstoMax]

vw's pwn, plus their Euro and thats the style right now. and a corrado vr6 could own any Si(r) or stuff stock vs stock

max

[Speed_RaSiR]

Originally posted by Lt. Max
vw's pwn, plus their Euro and thats the style right now. and a corrado vr6 could own any Si(r) or stuff stock vs stock

max

I used to own a Corrado VR6 and I can honestly say my SiR is faster and handles waaaaaaay better. The Corrado has more of a low end and more torque but thats about it. 178 BHP vs 160 - V6 vs 4 cyl The SiR is lighter which is why it is faster. Mind you they are comparitely close. Stock VR6's run 16.2 1\4 mile - Stock SiR runs 15.9 1\4 mile. B series Honda engines 0wn VW VR6 engines in so many ways. In my opinion VW's are overpriced and not very impressive. Thats just my personal opinion tho...

[van]

I agree with the yellow car change the wheels. The other 2 cars I dig, they look really nice.

[cocoabrova]

Originally posted by Lt. Max
vw's pwn, plus their Euro and thats the style right now Throughout the years that I've been an enthusiast, damn that's alot of years:rofl: the S/C scene has always been full of BOTH euro and Asian imports. Keep in mind that I've also lived in the states for many of those lots'o'years;) But in the last few years, the domestic S/C's have really made a breakthrough in a scene that was totallly dominated by imports. So in other words, IMO there hasn't been a "style" or "fad" that the S/C scene has gone through, in regards to which import to build :thumbsup:

[DUBBED]

Originally posted by Speed_RaSiR
In my opinion VW's are overpriced and not very impressive. Thats just my personal opinion tho...

supercharge an sir and supercharge a vr6 and a vr6 will come out on top... by about 100hp... and if youve ever sat in a 2000 up vee-dub you will understand why you see so many on the roads today... im not hating on honda's or anything... because they are the most uncomparable vehicles in the world (one made for racing, the other made for practicality and comfort) its all personal preferance... i think there will be alot more dubs on the roads in the near future now with all the easily upgradable turbo engines vee-dub is coming out with... to each ther own

[ZED_24]

Originally posted by ConVict
To each their own... But it needs new rims :dunno:


i totally agree with the rims. baaaad choice, they don't suit the car. other than that it's pretty damn nice. :thumbsup:

[Ben]

Most honda people when comparing a VW look only at how fast they go, but stock for stock, standard features blah blah, VW's offer huge value for your buck, putting cars such as 3 series BMW's in their place. Speed isn't everything, if VW wanted to have the fastest Sport compact in the market, they would have, end of story, you cant possibly say VW doesn't have the R&D :rofl::rofl: having the fastest sport compact isn't a priority for them, and I dont blame them.

[XxIntegra_BoixX]

Both Sets of the VW's are freaken amazing. The nice thing about VW's are that they already are a nice car to start with. Also when you fix them up they don't look over killed with kits and spoilers. Nice clean and original. It's all about the originality. Just sweet, just so sweet.

[Ben]

Originally posted by XxIntegra_BoixX
Both Sets of the VW's are freaken amazing. The nice thing about VW's are that they already are a nice car to start with. Also when you fix them up they don't look over killed with kits and spoilers. Nice clean and original. It's all about the originality. Just sweet, just so sweet.

Wow, I think that is one of the best replies I have heard man, :thumbsup:

[Ben]

Originally posted by DUBBED


supercharge an sir and supercharge a vr6 and a vr6 will come out on top...


speaking of which...

[James]

Originally posted by Ben



speaking of which...


:drool: ...oh one day, i wil own a Supercharged VR6 Passat:bigpimp:

[Speed_RaSiR]

Originally posted by DUBBED


supercharge an sir and supercharge a vr6 and a vr6 will come out on top...

So what, we are comparing stock vs stock. a 1.6L 4cyl vs a 2.8 V6 which in my mind should not even be compared and the SiR still comes out on top N\A. Not to mention its more fuel efficient and lighter and rev's higher and cheaper.

When comparing a 1.6L 4cyl vs to a 2.8 V6 for forced induction of course the extra displacement will come out on top. Thats a no brainer.

Ok, lets even it out, compare a 2.8 VR6 to a Honda NSX 3.0L V6, ok thats .2 only more displacement, so they are relatively even in size.

178 (VR6) BHP to 252 (NSX) BHP, Another reason why Honda engines are far superior in a close match up size for size.

I don't want to turn this into an all out Honda vs VW war, but these are facts...

[ConVict]

Yes honda engines put out more HP per litre then most other manufacteriers. But they put out way less tq... you need both to win a race. Plus you are comparing a car engine from an exotic to a mid range passenger car...
Honda obviously trys to sell cars with its high revving, high Hp statements. But they are horrible down low, and they cost a shit load for what you get...

[EstoMax]

Originally posted by ConVict
Plus you are comparing a car engine from an exotic to a mid range passenger car...
thats all i was gana post.

max

plz lets stop this debate this is a veedub thread. tnx bye.

[EstoMax]

speaking of veedubs. heres some more :D

http://home.attbi.com/~seanl/Alphapete.jpg

to prove that this car is also good offroad: (no this is not a crashed car) "exploring the off road capabilities-"
http://home.mchsi.com/~samson963/2.jpg

polished lip :drool:
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid29/p4eeb36d5bae2297d34a61c638269a58a/fd614e21.jpg

u think ur low?
http://www.dasfuls.com/photos/meat%20ups/2002-09-28/dsc09358.jpg

ill keep addin every once in a while.. dont wanna saturate the thread hehe

[boi-alien]

dope golf.... not diggin the wheels... i personally prefer something with a little less spokes!

[Rydog]

Originally posted by Lt. Max
speaking of veedubs. heres some more :D

u think ur low?
http://www.dasfuls.com/photos/meat%20ups/2002-09-28/dsc09358.jpg

I like the mirrors on the black one, and daaaaaaamn that's low. gotta be difficult to drive around town, unless he's on hydro's or sumting.

lates.

[Speed_RaSiR]

Originally posted by ConVict


Plus you are comparing a car engine from an exotic to a mid range passenger car...

I am comparing similar engine sizes litre for litre and cylinder per cylinder. You can't get any closer of a comparison. And before that I compared a V6 to a 4cyl and the results where in favor of the Honda.


Honda obviously trys to sell cars with its high revving, high Hp statements. But they are horrible down low, and they cost a shit load for what you get...

Cost a shit load for what you get? Ok lets make another comparison. (Don't forget the SiR comes Loaded)

1999 Volkswagen Jetta - GLX VR6 2.8L V6
Costs - $32,725.00
Stock 1\4 mile - 16.0

2000 Volkswagen - GTI GLX VR6 2.8L V6
Costs - $30,225.00
Stock 1\4 mile - 16.2

2000 Civic SiR - DOHC VTEC 1.6L 4cyl
Costs - $23,400.00
Stock 1\4 mile - 15.9

These are FACTS! the 1.6L Honda car is faster and much cheaper then its respective N\A VW which has two more cylinders and 1.2L more displacement. And costs almost $10,000 less. I rest my case.

Do some research next time http://images.honda-tech.com/set1/smile/emhammer.gif


Source -
http://www.car-stats.com
http://www.carcostcanada.com

[EstoMax]

i dont care what the facts are but the fact remains vw are euro, a mod plz delete all the thread crap from this thread thanks

the end

max

[Speed_RaSiR]

Originally posted by Lt. Max
i dont care what the facts are but the fact remains vw are euro, a mod plz delete all the thread crap from this thread thanks

the end

max

http://images.honda-tech.com/set1/smile/emhammer.gif http://images.honda-tech.com/set1/smile/emhammer.gif http://images.honda-tech.com/set1/smile/emhammer.gif

[Ben]

Originally posted by Speed_RaSiR


Plus you are comparing a car engine from an exotic to a mid range passenger car...

I am comparing similar engine sizes litre for litre and cylinder per cylinder. You can't get any closer of a comparison. And before that I compared a V6 to a 4cyl and the results where in favor of the Honda.


Honda obviously trys to sell cars with its high revving, high Hp statements. But they are horrible down low, and they cost a shit load for what you get...

Cost a shit load for what you get? Ok lets make another comparison. (Don't forget the SiR comes Loaded)

1999 Volkswagen Jetta - GLX VR6 2.8L V6
Costs - $32,725.00
Stock 1\4 mile - 16.0

2000 Volkswagen - GTI GLX VR6 2.8L V6
Costs - $30,225.00
Stock 1\4 mile - 16.2

2000 Civic SiR - DOHC VTEC 1.6L 4cyl
Costs - $23,400.00
Stock 1\4 mile - 15.9

These are FACTS! the 1.6L Honda car is faster and much cheaper then its respective N\A VW which has two more cylinders and 1.2L more displacement. And costs almost $10,000 less. I rest my case.

Do some research next time http://images.honda-tech.com/set1/smile/emhammer.gif


Source -
http://www.car-stats.com
http://www.carcostcanada.com



you didn't read a fuckin word I said did you, you honda loving fool. :rofl:


Originally posted by Ben
Most honda people when comparing a VW look only at how fast they go, but stock for stock, standard features blah blah, VW's offer huge value for your buck, putting cars such as 3 series BMW's in their place. Speed isn't everything, if VW wanted to have the fastest Sport compact in the market, they would have, end of story, you cant possibly say VW doesn't have the R&D :rofl: :rofl: having the fastest sport compact isn't a priority for them, and I dont blame them.

[Ben]

European cars have a few things in common.

A nice Fat Torque curve, LOTS OF LUXURIES, and a generally larger size to be more accommodating, hence they weigh alot more. Sure, you are comparing HP per liter, but on what, a VR6 motor is a world of difference from that of an 8grand revving SIR.

Each automaker hase their way of building cars. Honda has high rvs and a drive it like you stole it mentality, where as Domestic and European automakers seem to like the idea of more usable power. More efficient you say...not exactly, if it takes all those revs to make any power, seems pretty unefficient to me...just a thought.

[Speed_RaSiR]

Originally posted by Ben




you didn't read a fuckin word I said did you, you honda loving fool. :rofl:



You can imagine all you want about R&D and what ifs, The facts speak for them selfs. Owned.

[Ben]

Originally posted by Speed_RaSiR


You can imagine all you want about R&D and what ifs, The facts speak for them selfs. Owned.

Humm, somehow I dont feel owned, and I'm sure alot of people wuld agree with me.

[Ben]

Originally posted by Speed_RaSiR


You can imagine all you want about R&D and what ifs, The facts speak for them selfs. Owned.


again, completely ignoring the design purpose of VW's, your owning yourself with your blaitant ignorrance towards any other vehicle.

[92 Teg-B18A]

so sweet, don't really care for the rims though

[Buckwheat]

I love the rims... That is one sweet VW.

[GTS Jeff]

dubbed, speedrasir, and convict...u all dumb benchracering foos that are overgeneralizing...

[three.eighteen.]

goddamn, can't y'all just respect a nicely done up car and not start shooting numbers out of youre asses, if you don't subscribe to the appeal that the car has, so be it, but why do you have to spring into the whole manufacturer vs manufacturer, or worse yet, euro vs asian import debate...

[mrmattyk]

Originally posted by three.eighteen.
goddamn, can't y'all just respect a nicely done up car and not start shooting numbers out of youre asses, if you don't subscribe to the appeal that the car has, so be it, but why do you have to spring into the whole manufacturer vs manufacturer, or worse yet, euro vs asian import debate...

:werd:

Except I kinda wish Ben would drive a really tacky import so I could say "Ahh shit son, it's Uncle Ben's Rice!".

[Voodoo Child]

I find VW's to be very expensive for what you get.
$33,000 for a Jetta is alot of money in my opinion.
They DO have great amenities inside the car, but I'm always a little dissapointed with the stock hp output.

I've owned 2 corrado's so I know what VW is all about, but I still say for the dollar they ask, they would not be at the top of my list anymore.

my 2 cents.

VC

[Ben]

All the new VR6's are 200hp

[EstoMax]

yea so now we have over a page of thread crap for this thread.. thanks people! woot!11

:rolleyes:
max

[Ben]

Originally posted by Lt. Max
yea so now we have over a page of thread crap for this thread.. thanks people! woot!11

:rolleyes:
max

THanks for your input assfuck.

[Audi Kid]

aaaaaaaaaaahahahaha

[EstoMax]

big pix
http://c3cars.com/CFJFiles/C3Cars/5962.jpg
http://c3cars.com/CFJFiles/C3Cars/5963.jpg
another euroTT wheeler
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid34/pbc7725ef31b60e9b7134bbf0df45d9d8/fd372923.jpg
another offroader:
http://www.parts4vws.com/images/members/toasters/George-R1-27.jpg
http://www.parts4vws.com/images/members/davedarr/DUBBN.jpg

some more ontopic stuff

[EstoMax]

oh and ben what do u got aginst me ? i love dubs why u go hostile on me. i did my input b4 if u read the threads and i told him to stop already.. geez

max

[Ben]

Originally posted by Lt. Max
oh an ben what do u got aginst me ? i love dubs why u go hostile on me. i did my input b4 if u read the threads and i told him to stop already.. geez

max


hahhaa, ah well, nothing against ya really, its just ignorant people annoy me. I agree that the thread kinda went to crap, but some people are brutally narrowminded.

[DUBBED]

somebody lock this thread....



http://www.dub-nation.com/show/jdm_vs_dtm/images/pic_57.jpg

http://www.dub-nation.com/show/jdm_vs_dtm/images/pic_66.jpg

http://www.evolutionsports.com/images/gallery/rs6602.jpg

[Madspinner]

Those are some phat looking VW ,Does anyone know some sites with some sweet VW golf.That first VW but does need some different rims.

[DUBBED]

www.dasfuls.com
www.dub-nation.com
www.vwvortex.com

[GTS Jeff]

Originally posted by DUBBED
somebody lock this thread.... the admins know how to do their job w/o you telling them what to do.

[DUBBED]

Originally posted by GTS Jeff
the admins know how to do their job w/o you telling them what to do.

that was a useless comment.... i simply said lock it cause of all the other useless coments on here... i posted a pic of a nice car... then people went on hating... theres no need for it... so why leave this discussion open so people can keep on hating...

[GTS Jeff]

Originally posted by DUBBED


that was a useless comment.... i simply said lock it cause of all the other useless coments on here... i posted a pic of a nice car... then people went on hating... theres no need for it... so why leave this discussion open so people can keep on hating... again, its not up to u to decide whether my comments are useful or not, just like its not up to u to lock this thread.

[rx7_turbo2]

Originally posted by DUBBED


that was a useless comment.... i simply said lock it cause of all the other useless coments on here... i posted a pic of a nice car... then people went on hating... theres no need for it... so why leave this discussion open so people can keep on hating...

Deal with it. People who hate the cars have just as much right to say something as people who like the cars. If I like a car I want to be able to say it, if I hate a car I expect the same privledge

[lammer]

Originally posted by rx7_turbo2


Deal with it. People who hate the cars have just as much right to say something as people who like the cars. If I like a car I want to be able to say it, if I hate a car I expect the same privledge :werd: nicely put.

[93golf1.8t]

Originally posted by Speed_RaSiR


I used to own a Corrado VR6 and I can honestly say my SiR is faster and handles waaaaaaay better. The Corrado has more of a low end and more torque but thats about it. 178 BHP vs 160 - V6 vs 4 cyl The SiR is lighter which is why it is faster. Mind you they are comparitely close. Stock VR6's run 16.2 1\4 mile - Stock SiR runs 15.9 1\4 mile. B series Honda engines 0wn VW VR6 engines in so many ways. In my opinion VW's are overpriced and not very impressive. Thats just my personal opinion tho...

[flame suit]

:bullshit: Ok, i'm sorry guys, this is my opinion, i'm a noob to this board, but speed rasir is somewhat mistaken. I have owned a Corrado Vr6 and driven a SiR 160hp stock and type R stock. My corrado owned a moddified SiR very badly, and I personally know the driver, and he was an avid autocrosser/dragracer. Stock Vr6's have been known to run as low as 14.1s with good drivers, but thats driver dependant. I'm not sure where he got 16.2 because i have a car & driver from 1993 when the VR6 first came to north america in a corrado, and it ran in the 15's.

I guess that power/heated seats, mirrors, headlight washers, sunroof, stock recaro interior and 178hp and 174ftlbs of torque is something you have to pay a bit more for. My friend just picked up a corrado for 9gs with no accidents and 117000kms. They were intitially very expensive and are usually overpriced. SiRs are cool, but i think speed rasir needs to refresh his memory or stop smoking something.

I've been in/driven some pretty quick H cars including a gen II integ with H22A T62 turbo and thats fast but, not to bash any SiR guys here, but you'll have a tough time beating a Vr6 in a race stock for stock.


As far as the other posts are concerned, those are actually 17" BBS RS301's, they are 3 pc wheels and very rare. They are 5x100 bolt pattern and were designed by BBS for the Corrado Cup i believe. I think there were about 300 sets made. The owner of that yellow Vr6 is named Frank and his car was actually in an accident and is/has been sold for a new audi. You can find those wheels, but they are very rare and can be had for between 1900-2500US with decent tires.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/61329/OZESO-clay3.jpg

Kinesis K27 :D

this is my current ride, and yes the color is gay :rolleyes: :drool:

[/flame suit]

[88CRX]

right :rolleyes:


nice bump on the nearly year old thread :thumbsdow

[93golf1.8t]

Originally posted by DUBBED
www.dasfuls.com
www.dub-nation.com
www.vwvortex.com


dasfuls represent

that jetta with the IC is my fellow dasful club members car, and my car is on the left of that picture :D thats ryan schaeffers car in the evolution pic, a very nice fella see him at many shows

you initially compared your SiR to a corrado Vr6, now how bout you compare those times;) your logic is skewed along with your spelling :rolleyes: :drama:

Car-Stats.com Report for 1994 Volkswagen Corrado SLC
Obtained from
0-60: 7.2 Transmission: Unknown
1/4 Mile: 15.6
1/4 Speed:

2000 Civic SiR - DOHC VTEC 1.6L 4cyl
Costs - $23,400.00
Stock 1\4 mile - 15.9


haha i guess your 15.9 second 1/4 mile SiR was SLOWER than your corrado Vr6, or maybe you just cant drive :D the facts speak for themselves like you said:


You can imagine all you want about R&D and what ifs, The facts speak for them selfs. Owned.

:rofl: :rofl:

OWNED ;)


To the integra type R guy, I agree 100% new VW's are overpriced, but people continue to buy them :dunno: not me though ;)

[93golf1.8t]

Originally posted by 88CRX
right :rolleyes:


nice bump on the nearly year old thread :thumbsdow

http://www.vwdov.ca/forum/avatar.php?userid=57&dateline=1066067904

:(

[euro_racer]

man, BBS and VW are made for each other, i wish that i could pick up some BBS for my jetta

My jetta is a vr-6 too, and i think that it is somewhat expencive, but it is worth every penny i spent for it.(177hp, Lether, heated seats etc.)

[Dave P]

Some damn fresh euros

[three.eighteen.]

whats with all these resurrections?

[GorG]

Originally posted by ZED_24



i totally agree with the rims. baaaad choice, they don't suit the car. other than that it's pretty damn nice. :thumbsup:

yea rims need to be changed, it just doesnt match the car, but the car is still so sick, and clean, MMMMMMMM V_DUB:drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:

[carguy]

for wut the owner spent on those bbs rims
he could have got better looking ones
but yeah its nice