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jaylo
03-12-2003, 09:42 PM
Just a heads up for all of you when pumping gas:

In the first case, the phone was placed on the car's trunk lid during fueling; it rang and the ensuing fire destroyed the car and the gasoline pump. In the second, an individual suffered severe burns to their face when fumes ignited as they answered a call while refueling their car. And in the third, an individual suffered burns to the thigh and groin as fumes ignited when the phone, which was in their pocket, rang while they were fueling their car.
You should know that:

Mobile Phones can ignite fuel or fumes. Mobile phones that light up when switched on or when they ring release enough energy to provide a spark for ignition. Mobile phones should not be used in filling stations, or when fueling lawn mowers, boats, etc.
Mobile phones should not be used, or should be turned off, around other materials that generate flammable or explosive fumes or dust, i.e., solvents, chemicals, gases, grain dust, etc.
Another safety warning you should know about concerns static electricity.

Below is an email from Pat Cabiling who works at Chevron Texaco's Richmond Refinery.
Four Rules for Safe Refueling
1) Turn off engine.
2) Don't smoke.
3) Don't use your cell phone - leave it inside the vehicle or turn it off.
4) Don't reenter your vehicle during fueling.
Bob Renkes of Petroleum Equipment Institute is working on a campaign to try and make people aware of fires as a result of "static electricity" at gas pumps. His company has researched 150 cases of these fires. His results were very surprising:
1) Out of 150 cases, almost all of them were women.
2) Almost all cases involved the person getting back in their vehicle while the nozzle was still pumping gas. When finished and they went back to pull the nozzle out, the fire started as a result of static.
3) Most had on rubber-soled shoes.
4) Most men never get back in their vehicle until completely finished.
This is why they are seldom involved in these types of fires.
5) Don't ever use cell phones when pumping gas
6) It is the vapors that come out of the gas that cause the fire, when connected with static charges.
7) There were 29 fires where the vehicle was reentered and the nozzle was touched during refueling., some resulting in extensive damage to the vehicle, to the station, and to the customer. 8) Seventeen fires that occurred before, during or immediately after the gas cap was removed and before fueling began. Mr. Renkes stresses to NEVER get back into your vehicle while filling it with gas.

If you absolutely HAVE to get in your vehicle while the gas is pumping,
make sure you get out, close the door TOUCHING THE METAL, before you ever pull the nozzle out. This way the static from your body will be discharged before you ever remove the nozzle.
As mentioned earlier, The Petroleum Equipment Institute, along with
several other companies now, are really trying to make the public aware of this danger. You can find out more information by going to http://www.pei.org . Once here, click in the center of the screen where it says "Stop Static."

rage2
03-12-2003, 09:46 PM
tsk tsk urban legends :

http://www.snopes.com/autos/hazards/gasvapor.asp

Sad thing is, so many people believed this crap, that many gas stations have enforced rules (no cell phones allowed) to comfort you suckers :D.

The static thing is 1/2 true, a lot of it was taken out of context.

rage2
03-12-2003, 09:52 PM
Info on the static research :

http://www.snopes.com/autos/hazards/static.asp

hjr
03-12-2003, 09:56 PM
Well im a guy so aparently i dont have to worry about it anyways.

Anyways, With 150 cases out of the MILLIONS that pump every DAY, it doesnt sound like that much of a problem.

rage2
03-12-2003, 10:01 PM
The gender thing was made up, read the link I posted about the static research summary.

rage2
03-12-2003, 10:04 PM
If you go to that PEI research site, and click on stop static like the initial post told you to do, you will see :


An e-mail is circulating that did not originate from PEI or API.
Remarks regarding cellular phones, victim gender and footwear are inaccurate. Only refueling fires that appear to be started by static electrical discharge are detailed in our report. It does not pertain to cellular telephones. In fact PEI has never been able to document a single refueling incident caused by a cell phone.

szw
03-12-2003, 10:06 PM
I saw a clip on the news a long time ago talking about this. But they said the biggest concern would be dropping the phone and causing a spark, rather than a spark coming from the phone itself.

Didn't really make sense but whatever...they put up signs anyways.

hjr
03-12-2003, 10:07 PM
Well, arn't you the Bullshit Buster. ;)

Good sleuthing though!

GTS Jeff
03-12-2003, 11:28 PM
ppl will believe anything!

Glowrider
03-12-2003, 11:33 PM
I first saw this about a year ago. I guess I'm flirting with death when I leave my car on as I gas up. Not to mention leaving my cell phone on!

Zephyr
03-12-2003, 11:43 PM
that is stupid. i never heard of it, but it sounds really dumb.

sillyd
03-13-2003, 11:24 AM
i talk while fueling all the time and haven't blown up yet

Alpine Autowerks
03-13-2003, 11:59 AM
When I lived in Korea I found that they rarely shut off their engines when refueling, I even got funny looks for doing it at ful serve.

three.eighteen.
03-13-2003, 09:25 PM
Originally posted by Alpine Autowerks
When I lived in Korea I found that they rarely shut off their engines when refueling, I even got funny looks for doing it at ful serve.

only in the land of daewoo/kia/hyundai...

SpoonEK9@STRD
03-13-2003, 11:09 PM
http://www.lamer.net/timeline.jpg

jaylo
03-14-2003, 11:16 AM
sweet I'm living in the past!

Anyways they have videos of people refueling and suddenly it their car just catches on fire

T5_X
03-14-2003, 11:28 AM
wasn't this on fox or something.

Moral: believe the opposite of anything on fox.

jaylo
03-14-2003, 03:43 PM
it was on satellite, The Pulse show