~Most overrated car....~

[handsomebassman]

What cars do you find are very overrated, either due to company history, or model history, etc.

Im going to say the porsche boxster, bmw 3-series, honda prelude, the mass amounts of r32's being imported (with of course the very good condition vehicles being an exception, and of course the H2.

None of this is meant to be offensive btw- so no flaming for anyones posts.

[Team_Mclaren]

H-2, its a disgrace to the hummer brand

[JordanEG6]

R32 skyline GTS-type M or any other non-GTR
Porsche Boxter

[Shaolin]

The H2 comes to mind.. I'm indifferent with the BMW 3 Series.. I drove my cousin's 01 325ci for a long time, and the car drives great, it's comfortable, quiet, etc.. but I can't justify dropping 50k on that car. Obviously, it wouldn't be a 50k car if it was badged as something else..

[handsomebassman]

Originally posted by Shaolin
...the BMW 3 Series.....I drove my cousin's 01 325ci.....it wouldn't be a 50k car if it was badged as something else..

:werd:

[snowboard]

yah but with exception to the 330? right?
haha
but yah the boxter and H2 are both garbage.

[93hustler]

The Corvette up until the new Z06 came out.

[BerserkerCatSplat]

3-series, out of pure suck. $20,000 overpriced.
H2/H3

Now, I know I'm going to get flamed for this, but I think the '06 Civic is way overrated. It's been really really hyped, but I still think ~$30,000 for a Civic is just too much. It's a nice car, but it's not $30,000 worth of nice.

[snowboard]

Originally posted by BerserkerCatSplat
3-series, out of pure suck. $20,000 overpriced.
H2/H3

Now, I know I'm going to get flamed for this, but I think the '06 Civic is way overrated. It's been really really hyped, but I still think ~$30,000 for a Civic is just too much. It's a nice car, but it's not $30,000 worth of nice.


plus they stole saturn styling?

[handsomebassman]

Originally posted by BerserkerCatSplat
Now, I know I'm going to get flamed for this, but I think the '06 Civic is way overrated. It's been really really hyped, but I still think ~$30,000 for a Civic is just too much. It's a nice car, but it's not $30,000 worth of nice.

I only payed $23 for mine :dunno:

[90Tegra]

STI

[JAYMEZ]

Yup 3 series BMW , H2/H3 , new mustang , new civic , and integras

[BerserkerCatSplat]

Originally posted by handsomebassman


I only payed $23 for mine :dunno:

You have an Si? I was unaware the price had dropped that far on the Si's.

Er, I guess I forgot to clarify I was talking about the Si.

[ga16i]

North American S14. Keeping the same engine as the 91-93 S13 is complete bullshit. The KA24DE is bit of a disappointment to me anyway. Seems pretty anemic for 2.4L of displacement.

[andres_mt]

integras are the most overated car of all time IMO

[Mazstyle]

The new civic si....:thumbsdow

[handsomebassman]

Originally posted by BerserkerCatSplat


You have an Si? I was unaware the price had dropped that far on the Si's.

Er, I guess I forgot to clarify I was talking about the Si.

No worries, i didnt know if you were referring to the Si or not.

But i love my lil civic, for the price i paid.:D

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c59/handsomebassman/Civicmy.jpg

[max_boost]

Yah the 3 series is a great line but the price is pretty ridiculous. My 330 optioned out into the high 60's but it didn't bother me because I leased. I would never drop that much jack via finance or buyout on a car that has trouble beating a $25K Civic off the line. Can't wait to jump into something with a bit more vroom.

Werd to the Porsche Boxster as well, it's bling but it's nothing a S2K can't handle for $20K less.

IMO if you are spending over $50k, cars should at the very least run a mandatory 0-60 in under 6 seconds.

[pinoyhero]

H2
3-series is an amazing car but i must agree with all that it is painfully overpriced and comes with an ultra expensive mantenance program...eg. oil change on my '99 E46 = $85, on my '02 TL-S $18

[E30318is]

H2 is junk the subarus sti and wrx are junk the mass amount of skylines being imported also junk and all the excitment over the hondas and acuras some not all are junk i duno i dont like nething unless its european

[pinoyhero]

Originally posted by E30318is
H2 is junk the subarus sti and wrx are junk the mass amount of skylines being imported also junk and all the excitment over the hondas and acuras some not all are junk i duno i dont like nething unless its european

Dude you shoulda put your flame suit on, your gonna get some heat for that comment, its gonna melt the paint off your 135 HP, $40,000 car...

[85regal]

nissan 240's by far...and they are pathetically slow....

[handsomebassman]

Oh yea, i forgot to say integras.

And maybe ill add a touch of audi TT, the turtle car.

[Shaolin]

Originally posted by E30318is
H2 is junk the subarus sti and wrx are junk the mass amount of skylines being imported also junk and all the excitment over the hondas and acuras some not all are junk i duno i dont like nething unless its european

Not sure if I should take you seriously or not.. but why don't you like anything unless it's European?

[handsomebassman]

Originally posted by E30318is
i dont like nething unless its european


:rofl: :rofl:
Are you being serious or kidding?

[Aleks]

Nissan 240sx by far in our market here.

[3G]

ae86

[Sorath]

Originally posted by JordanEG6
R32 skyline GTS-type M or any other non-GTR
Porsche Boxter
race me for slips?

[TEAMFaint]

Skyline's by far..no matter what model/trim.

I see at least 2 Skyline's a day (same ones) that have been imported and look like absolute ass. The drivers all think they are pimps because they drive a Skyline where really they are just stupid cause they payed $11,000 for a rough shaped car which has most likely been bagged for most of its life.

[Sharpie]

Originally posted by Aleks
Nissan 240sx by far in our market here.
:werd:

and ae86s because of initial d tax

[cman]

H2
240sx
Integra

[the_ace]

hondas all of them, no torque wht so ever,

beamers, keep breaking down....

[Team_Mclaren]

just a per-warning


none of this is meant to be offensive

Please keep your comments to a mature level.

[Toms-SC]

Anything JDM

[gen2teggy]

the bus

[dino_martini]

H2
BMW 3 series
Porsche Boxster

[euro_racer]

the new civics and most of the imported jdm cars i think.

[Slashin_]

h2/h3
most american cars....over priced....i can buy 2 civics insted of 1 muscle car
european r overrated....expensive....

[habsfan]

3 series before bmw actually gave them power, civic/integra, the older boxsters, skylines,



Originally posted by 93hustler
The Corvette up until the new Z06 came out.

just to hear your reasoning behind this, what makes you think that the vette is overrated? it has always matched the performance of many high priced sports cars for tens of thousands of dollars less.

[Lex350]

Originally posted by Team_Mclaren
H-2, its a disgrace to the hummer brand


I don;t know about that...but the H3 is a fucking joke....talk about a pretender vehicle.

[iceburns288]

H2, H3, ESCALADE! ooooh how I hate the Escalade.

I love the E90 3-series, but then I realized how much they cost! You can probably get TWO comparable cars (albeit used) for a decently optioned 330!:confused:

[bradwatson]

*brad zips up the flame suit*

Im not a big fan of CRX's. Some CRX drivers are ok, but for a good-sized section of the people that drive them, they think they're awesome. Ive never seen one that is really fast without significant modification.

R32 Skylines. Sure, the GTR can be fast, but in all honesty i don't like the styling. I can't justify buying a 15 year old Japanese car for $30K.

Integras. They are good daily driver cars, and may look good with some minor cosmetic changes, but not amazing cars.

Mustangs. (After the glory years in the 60's) Seeing as this is a mainly japanese car-loving site, i dont have to elaborate. They may be fast, but they look like shit. '67 and '69 mustangs are sweet, but after that they went WAY downhill.

Thats all I can think of now.

Brad

[BerserkerCatSplat]

Originally posted by bradwatson
'67 and '69 mustangs are sweet, but after that they went WAY downhill.

Brad

What's wrong with the 68's? ;)

[90s_tuner]

GTS-T R32s suck. GTR is good. I would get one if they weren't RHD.

[eclipse00]

How about anything with 4 wheels! Bikes are where its at!

[handsomebassman]

Originally posted by rotten42

I don;t know about that...but the H3 is a fucking joke....talk about a pretender vehicle.

Thats what i thought too, being a huge anti-H2 guy, but in my offroading magizines, apparently the H3 is MUCH better than the H2 for just about anything, and in some cases, better than the original HumVee as well.:eek:

[habsfan]

if the h3 had any power it would be a damn nice truck. smaller, shorter wheelbase, but still built to be a good offroader.

[///|ndy]

You find the 3-series to be overrated, yet you troll E46fanatics (a site dedicated to the 3-series), getting information about a car that you don't own? :dunno:


Originally posted by handsomebassman
well here is some help for you too

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/archive/index.php/t-202477.html

http://forums.beyond.ca/showthread.php?s=&threadid=118543

While that is strange, I have to agree with you. The car does lack things for the price tag, and the biggest issues is the little things that were overlooked, like door trims actually staying on. :banghead:

[YamaLube]

Not that I would call them "overrated", but I thought the 7th gen celicas were very dissapointing, performance wise...........

[Lex350]

Originally posted by habsfan
if the h3 had any power it would be a damn nice truck. smaller, shorter wheelbase, but still built to be a good offroader.


My point was is that it isn't at all a Hummer. It's built on the Colorado platform and they stuck a H3 badge on it purely for image.

[habsfan]

thats 100% true, same with the H2, its just another beefed up GM platform. but as long as it's a dynamite no excuses offroader, i feel that it has earned its place as a hummer.

[95EagleAWD]

Overrated cars?

Bugatti Veyron

Any BMW 3-series, save the M3. Just can't justify the price of that machine for what you get out of it.

The Boxster is sweet. Drive one, then you'll appreciate it.

Can't think of much more... my brain is in slo-mo.

[Fez_turbo]

i think the excalade lost its touch about a week after it was released....because everyone in the city had one.:nut: so now they arent even that great.

but why is everyone slamming the bmw 3 series....are they horrible cars or is it just the price that everyone does not like? and is it true (directed to bmw owners or people who have friends with bmw) that they always break down.....(this in reference to a 97 318I)

[Shaolin]

Originally posted by Fez_turbo
i think the excalade lost its touch about a week after it was released....because everyone in the city had one.:nut: so now they arent even that great.

but why is everyone slamming the bmw 3 series....are they horrible cars or is it just the price that everyone does not like? and is it true (directed to bmw owners or people who have friends with bmw) that they always break down.....(this in reference to a 97 318I)

I just won't pay 55k for a 325.. like I said before, I really liked my cousin's 01 325.. loved everything about it.. power was enough (even though there isn't much), it was quiet, comfortable, etc.. but I think I can get the same type of performance/comfort/ride quality for less than 55k..

although it'd be badged as something else.

[PrezeS_PL]

Originally posted by Mazstyle
The new civic si....:thumbsdow

For sure, thats just to much money for Civic even if its a great car

[///|ndy]

Originally posted by Fez_turbo
i think the excalade lost its touch about a week after it was released....because everyone in the city had one.:nut: so now they arent even that great.

but why is everyone slamming the bmw 3 series....are they horrible cars or is it just the price that everyone does not like? and is it true (directed to bmw owners or people who have friends with bmw) that they always break down.....(this in reference to a 97 318I)

It depends what you want out of a car, it's not a car for boy-racers. I love my coupe, and I wouldn't trade it for anything out there.
I don't think the issue is reliability, but the cost of repairs. Also I wouldn't really listen the people knocking it, since in reality most of them haven't even driven a 3-series to be able to give you an honest opinion.

[lastprodigy]

hey dc2ned ;)

[///|ndy]

Originally posted by lastprodigy
hey dc2ned ;)

;) :angel:

[dino_martini]

Originally posted by Fez_turbo
ibut why is everyone slamming the bmw 3 series....

I find some of the BMW 3 series drivers to be horrible

[Goblin]

Originally posted by ///|ndy


It depends what you want out of a car, it's not a car for boy-racers. I love my coupe, and I wouldn't trade it for anything out there.
I don't think the issue is reliability, but the cost of repairs. Also I wouldn't really listen the people knocking it, since in reality most of them haven't even driven a 3-series to be able to give you an honest opinion.

Your right, no one has driven one. How is it most over-rated, damn, its won car and drivers tests for years in a row. Its a great car, and I love mine.

Most Over-Rated : Escalades, H-2, Civics (new one looks like ass), Jeeps (They are trailer rated, not trail rated - this goes for liberty, cherokee, TJ, all the new ones ), ANY GM VEHICLE! (why? they are all the same just rebadged)

[Goblin]

Originally posted by dino_martini


I find some of the BMW 3 series drivers to be horrible


because they are all old men who are in their 60's loosing their vision and hand eye coordiantion.

[dino_martini]

Originally posted by Goblin



because they are all old men who are in their 60's loosing their vision and hand eye coordiantion.

Well, yes and no (i hate to be sterotypical here) its also blondes driving 3 series BMWs while talking on their cell phones...jesus.

[Aleks]

Originally posted by PrezeS_PL


For sure, thats just to much money for Civic even if its a great car

I could make the same argument for a Jetta or the new GTi. I mean these things are in the mid to hi 30s fully loaded? :eek:

Who would have thought a peope's car would be that much ;)

[Nix87]

The new mitsubishi Eclipse

[darkbanana]

So much integra hate, but I do hate teg drivers who think they own a sports car, it's a good daily driver and it looks good with minor mods but its far from "fast".

I can't stand H2, Escalades and Navis either its a housewife on the cell or a wannabe wanksta spending daddys bling.

[brandon]

I love e46's my mom's got a 330ci and no problems with it. It looks great performs good and a fun car!

And boxsters being overrated? go fucking drive one and say that... lol

Same people who say Miatas are gay... Miata is a fun little car... yeah the looks are kinda off but those perform!

I don't think any car is really overrated, they all have ups and downs. I have a new 06 civic coupe and I love driving that more then I do the AMG. All personal preference I guess?

[mikey_mo_love]

Originally posted by ///|ndy


It depends what you want out of a car, it's not a car for boy-racers. I love my coupe, and I wouldn't trade it for anything out there.
I don't think the issue is reliability, but the cost of repairs. Also I wouldn't really listen the people knocking it, since in reality most of them haven't even driven a 3-series to be able to give you an honest opinion.

i knew you couldn't stay off beyond cock jaw
hahaha

[Clanche]

Wow lots of bimmer bashing (probably from alot of people that have never driven one)... i think you have to drive one to understand the difference outside of just some specs you read on a website...

I do agree they are a bit pricey but so are Acuras! Only crap put one or two simple options and some decent stock rims on a TSX and you are looking at $48,000 :eek: i've driven both the e46 and the TSX many times and you cannot even compare the feel, luxury, handling, built quality, etc...


Anyways, one of the most overrated machines:
http://www.triumphchepassione.com/honda/cbr-600-rr/honda-cbr-prova.jpg

[A|pine]

What's wrong with the 3 series?

I have an E30 and it's hella fun to drive, also been driving an e46 for a bits and its hella smooth (both manual). Honestly after driving those two cars I don't know if I could go back to a civic, (drove my bro's).

:dunno:

Boxter is a good car, it's not overrated. IMO most overrated car now in calgary is The skyline gt-s. Hummer's aren't overrated because no one thinks of them as great anyways so how is it they are over rated.?

:D

gets flame suit on :nut:

[A|pine]

Originally posted by Clanche

Anyways, one of the most overrated machines:
http://www.triumphchepassione.com/honda/cbr-600-rr/honda-cbr-prova.jpg

nooooooooooo lol I was thinking of getting one come summer hahaha :burnout:

[Clanche]

Originally posted by A|pine
Hummer's aren't overrated because no one thinks of them as great anyways so how is it they are over rated.?

amen... maybe its the most underrated car cause everyone hates them :rofl: (probably not though :rolleyes: )



Originally posted by A|pine
nooooooooooo lol I was thinking of getting one come summer hahaha :burnout:

hahah well I should get my flame suit on for this one but they are overpriced and underpowered (torque)...still a nice bike though.. just not this godly machine everyone has made it out to be.. drive a 600RR and a GSX-R 600 and see which one will make you soil yourself :thumbsup:

[Clanche]

Originally posted by Team_Mclaren
H-2, its a disgrace to the hummer brand

the day hummer made civilian hummers they became a disgrace...

[A|pine]

I was thinking of getting it as a starter bike... haha I figured honda would be easy maintenance and decent.

haha F4i >.<

[Clanche]

Originally posted by A|pine
I was thinking of getting it as a starter bike... haha I figured honda would be easy maintenance and decent.

haha F4i &gt;.&lt;

you WILL crash your first bike or atleast drop it hard.. almost everyone does.. think about that and get some cheap old-school bike for $500 for your first summer

just my 2 cents but Blackfoot Motorsports makes their living of youngens buying new bikes and downing them their first summer.. then buying another one again.. its worth the wait.....

[googe]

haha, so many people that dont know wtf theyre talking about. boxster overrated? actually its underrated. thats one of the best handling cars out there.

sti overrated? corvette? gimme a break... :rolleyes:

these cars all dominate in their class, beating cars double the price.

[alloroc]

Might as well throw the Yaris in.

Its a personal thing but I think they are butt ugly. Whats more is they get worse milage than the car they replaced, with no increase in performance.

[DelSoln]

How can someone say the Sti is over rated? :confused: Were you expecting the car to run 10s out of the box?

[Hakkola]

H2/H3, Escalade, old Mercedes M Class, BMW X3, and any other vehicle people like that costs over 40 grand that looks like it's made out of plastic and drives like shit.

[TeamBestBud]

most overrated...anything FORD (besides maybe the GT40)

cheap construction, dont own one but ridden in a few and they always feel like they might fall apart..alot of rattling around behind all tht plastic

[handsomebassman]

Yea, i will add the X3 to my list as well. Like hakkola said. Its way to expensive for an ugly peice of plastic.

[JordanEG6]

Originally posted by iceburns288
H2, H3, ESCALADE! ooooh how I hate the Escalade.


MY GOD YES!! the escalade is the biggest piece of sh*t ever!

[handsomebassman]

Originally posted by Goblin
Jeeps (They are trailer rated, not trail rated - this goes for liberty, cherokee, TJ, all the new ones )


You really should not have included cherokee's and TJ's. They are very very capable off road, even in COMPLETE stock form. You couldnt even climb half the hills those two can. I say, you get out and buy one, and then hit the trails. Borrow mine even. And the rubicons come stock with a 4:1 crawl ratio, dana 44's front and back (bulletproof axles), lockers front and rear, stuff that is almost unheard of these days in offroad vehicles of their price, and onroad/offroad capability. Hell, take my jeep for a weekend, you'll see.

[benyl]

haha, I wanna know what you guys think is an underated car, cause you have pretty much called all cars overated... haha

[seer_claw]

You guys are missing the Excursion. Big, ugly, drinks gallons of diesel. :barf:

[handsomebassman]

Originally posted by benyl
haha, I wanna know what you guys think is an underated car, cause you have pretty much called all cars overated... haha



G35. Being a previous owner (of an s, not a c) I can tell you that this is the most fun car to drift around corners, great rwd fun, amazing sound.

But i guess its not THAT underrated when it got car of the year twice in a row, and has its 3.5L on the top 10 engines list for 3 years.





*oh, and yippee, ///dctuned is back.:rolleyes:

[Aleks]

Originally posted by Clanche
Wow lots of bimmer bashing (probably from alot of people that have never driven one)... i think you have to drive one to understand the difference outside of just some specs you read on a website...

I do agree they are a bit pricey but so are Acuras! Only crap put one or two simple options and some decent stock rims on a TSX and you are looking at $48,000 :eek: i've driven both the e46 and the TSX many times and you cannot even compare the feel, luxury, handling, built quality, etc...


Anyways, one of the most overrated machines:
http://www.triumphchepassione.com/honda/cbr-600-rr/honda-cbr-prova.jpg

TSX for 48 grand? Either your salesman is on CRACK or you're confusing your TSX and TL ;)

[robpark]

I see a lot of people calling the 3-series overpriced.... I may be biased, I love my 3, BUT, the reason you pay more for them is because they are built by Germans who get paid a decent wage to do a good job, rather than some underpaid Korean or a Mexican in a maquiadora....

Drive one and you will know what you are paying for.... I've never driven something that has handled so tightly and gracefully.

As far as reliability goes...the perception comes from a few things... Yes, repairs are costly and because they are luxury vehicles, there is more to go wrong in them. Also, they are engineered very tightly, in that every part/system works closely with another. Unlike some domestic cars, which are engineered fairly loosely so that if one system fails, the car will still run, BMWs are designed to run within fairly strict parameters and as such NEED to be maintained. Hell, if the battery is low, the car won't even try to start, it just sits there.....

[Bill Cosby]

im gonna have to say hummers, escalades, treunos, the new civic si and DA integras

[l8braker]

Most overrated of all time is the PT Cruiser, with the Mini a close second....

[handsomebassman]

Originally posted by l8braker
Most overrated of all time is the PT Cruiser, with the Mini a close second....

Yea, the PT looks like absolute garbage. You sure about the mini though? i gotta say, they are fairly fun to drive:burnout:

[l8braker]

Never driven one.... yet!! Hahaha. OK, The Crossfire or Benz C230 can take it's spot.

[handsomebassman]

Originally posted by l8braker
Never driven one.... yet!! Hahaha. OK, The Crossfire or Benz C230 can take it's spot.

I will give you the crossfire, lol, but as a totally biased benz guy, and as my mother also owns a c230, i will say that it is a wonderful car.

[hoppy2018]

Original Post Removed. (Please read the Forum Rules and Terms of Use (http://forums.beyond.ca/articles.php?action=data&item=1) before posting again, or risk getting banned).

[mikey_mo_love]

Originally posted by handsomebassman



You really should not have included cherokee's and TJ's. They are very very capable off road, even in COMPLETE stock form. You couldnt even climb half the hills those two can. I say, you get out and buy one, and then hit the trails. Borrow mine even. And the rubicons come stock with a 4:1 crawl ratio, dana 44's front and back (bulletproof axles), lockers front and rear, stuff that is almost unheard of these days in offroad vehicles of their price, and onroad/offroad capability. Hell, take my jeep for a weekend, you'll see.

so as soon as someone cuts down your ride it's not ok, but you can freely bash what everyone else drives? super

[robpark]

It puzzles me how you can say that the 3-series is overrated and then in the same thread say the C230 is a wonderful car?

Perhaps you can elaborate?

[Weapon_R]

Originally posted by benyl
haha, I wanna know what you guys think is an underated car, cause you have pretty much called all cars overated... haha


I think most of the posts here are just attacks against cars they dislike, rather than cars that are overrated. I laughed when I saw the STI as being an overrated car - what exactly does it fall short of doing?

[E30318is]

yeah i was serious with what i said i dont like it unless its european or some exotic italian car cuz after u drive one of those like my 140 hp 318is its enough power for the car i can use the whole car around the city brakes are good handles awsome and its a bmw so all u ppl trashing the bmw 3 series go test drive one and then say something cuz magazine test are bull shit there opinion is complete different based then some one who drives the car everyday

[DC2]

i might have to say the charger, magnum, C300, all the ones with the 3.5L's... but when you add that hemi.

[Aleks]

Originally posted by Weapon_R



I think most of the posts here are just attacks against cars they dislike, rather than cars that are overrated. I laughed when I saw the STI as being an overrated car - what exactly does it fall short of doing?

Only 2 things i can think of is initial resale value and extreme fuel consumption.

[alloroc]

Originally posted by Bill Cosby
im gonna have to say hummers, escalades, treunos, the new civic si and DA integras

Not sure I agree with you on the Trueno. Anything designed before 1990 that has a 10.0 or greater horspower to CC ratio (160+ HP : 1600cc) and midrange torque for day to day drivability is stylin'!

18 years later the Civic SI has finally caught up to the Trueno performance wise.

Thus the new Civic SI .. overrated - agreed.
The Trueno - A classic.