looking for a contact on Beyond to post a warning notice

[749009]

original:
http://cgi.ebay.ca/Audi-A6-Quattro-A6-2-7L-AWD-V6-2002-Audi-A6-2-7T-Quattro-LOADED-B-OFFER_W0QQitemZ4619187784QQcategoryZ6004QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

original copy:
http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-ViewAd-W0QQAdIdZ2848912

learning curve copy:
http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-ViewAd-W0QQAdIdZ2900667

local:
http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-ViewAd-W0QQAdIdZ2861108

http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-ViewAd-W0QQAdIdZ2860600

http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-ViewAd-W0QQAdIdZ2467388

[ninjak84]

Try sending a message to Kenny, he's an administrator...

But get the message out. A good friend of mine started up a free car sale site for Calgary. He'd probably want to know about it, and so would alot of other members on the forums.

[749009]

http://montreal.kijiji.ca/c-ViewAd-W0QQAdIdZ2939903

http://montreal.kijiji.ca/c-ViewAd-W0QQAdIdZ2939891

http://montreal.kijiji.ca/c-ViewAd-W0QQAdIdZ2939815

http://montreal.kijiji.ca/c-ViewAd-W0QQAdIdZ2939625

[rage2]

I didn't reply because I didn't feel it was necessary. Beyond.ca marketplace is a local marketplace. Furthest purchases I've seen of cars are from Calgary to Edmonton, with the parties arranging to see the cars in person either thru friends or other forum members.

That and our 30 day rule deters pretty much all spammers and scammers.

Until it becomes a problem, well, it's not a problem. It'll just cause more problems than anything IMO.

[legendboy]

Originally posted by 749009
There is an internet scam going on with respect to car ads on many websites that allow advertising of cars for sale with pics.
I have not encountered any of these scam ads on Beyond yet,

and this is news to who :confused:

[749009]

http://montreal.kijiji.ca/c-ViewAd-W0QQAdIdZ2939500

http://montreal.kijiji.ca/c-ViewAd-W0QQAdIdZ2928886

http://montreal.kijiji.ca/c-ViewAd-W0QQAdIdZ2939761

this is what competition among scammers can do for pricing:

http://montreal.kijiji.ca/c-ViewAd?AdId=2862194

[QuasarCav]

Originally posted by 749009

It is the apparent air of legitimacy associated with the scam ads because they copy legitimate ads with pictures, details, valid VINs, etc. and the suggested use of an independant 3rd party escrow agent to protect the buyer's deposit ( a small amount relative to the value of the car) plus the very low prices that could cause some buyers to forego normal precautions. That could include Beyond buyers, even if they did not see the ad on Beyond (I still think that is only a matter of time as Beyond has no way of preventing these people from registering).



If I hear Escrow = no buy

Shady cars at unreal prices = no buy


The people that are going to get ripped off will get ripped off regardless of what people say to stop them.

[ca2p3r]

Originally posted by legendboy


and this is news to who :confused:

:werd:

THIS IS NO NEWS TO US PAL!

[749009]

http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-ViewAd-W0QQAdIdZ2849020

http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-ViewAd-W0QQAdIdZ2848912.

http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-ViewAd-W0QQAdIdZ2848660

http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-ViewAd-W0QQAdIdZ2848408

[A790]

Originally posted by 749009


Well, it is news to the operators of some of the websites I've contacted because they were unaware they had fraudulent ads posted on their websites and have thanked me for pointing out what was going on and have taken steps to remove the ads.

Obviously by your response you appear to believe that the particular scam I am referring to is well known by everyone, yet, I am seeing more and more of these particular scam ads appearing.
Generally, it is only because scam ads are successful in bilking people of money that fraudulent sellers bother to post more and more ads on a wider variety of websites. As I pointed out above, just because I have not come across one of these ads on Beyond YET, is certainly no guarantee that they will not appear in the future, but, more to the point, Beyonders look to many on line sources when purchasing their vehicles.

I think that the community in general appreciates the concern, but this type of scam is well recognized and discussed here on the forums.

[arian_ma]

why is he getting flamed for trying to help? :dunno:

[ca2p3r]

http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?A790

after checking that out, yes it is necessary

[lastprodigy]

There should be a whole thread for scammers and bad business practices etc.

[rage2]

Originally posted by 749009
The simple courtesy of a brief reply to a serious inquiry should not be underestimated.
I get about 100 PM's a day. God knows how many people I've ignored in regards to asking me tune their cars. So don't feel too bad, you're not the only one that got ignored.

Originally posted by 749009
Your response does not convince me you fully appreciate the issues. Beyonders purchase cars from all over North America and as far away as Japan, not just from what they see advertised on Beyond.

It is the apparent air of legitimacy associated with the scam ads because they copy legitimate ads with pictures, details, valid VINs, etc. and the suggested use of an independant 3rd party escrow agent to protect the buyer's deposit ( a small amount relative to the value of the car) plus the very low prices that could cause some buyers to forego normal precautions. That could include Beyond buyers, even if they did not see the ad on Beyond (I still think that is only a matter of time as Beyond has no way of preventing these people from registering).

In any event, I have given you the information. If you choose not to act on it, that is your decision.
I dunno why you had to PM me. I mean it's a *gasp* public forum. You're free to post your warning up like you did in this thread. Don't need me to hold your hand in posting a thread :dunno:.

[749009]

http://edmonton.kijiji.ca/c-ViewAd-W0QQAdIdZ2683981

http://edmonton.kijiji.ca/c-ViewAd-W0QQAdIdZ2223688

http://edmonton.kijiji.ca/c-ViewAd-W0QQAdIdZ2224684

http://vancouver.kijiji.ca/c-ViewAd-W0QQAdIdZ2849018

Original:
http://cgi.ebay.ca/Audi-S4-2001-Audi-S4-Twin-Turbo-2-7L-V6-Very-Clean-Loaded_W0QQitemZ4618399463QQcategoryZ43902QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


Copy:
http://saskatoon.kijiji.ca/c-ViewAd-W0QQAdIdZ2837032

and finally, but, most importantly, a special song for the following Beyonders to recognize them for their english comprehension abilities, their impeccable manners and their valuable contributions to this thread:
rage2, legendboy, QuasarCav, ca2p3r, Bill Cosby, ZorroAMG, nismodrifter, Khyron, eur0, and talonboi;
Ladies, please allow enough time for the song to load and though it is decidedly American in content, rest assured you 10 were its true role model.

http://www.funny-spot.com/html/The-Asshole-Song.html

[snowboard]

Originally posted by 749009


Oh for crissakes rage2! You know damn well why I PM'd you. I MISTAKENLY, thought you were an administrator capable of posting PERMANENT notices on the Marketplace, Cars for Sale subsection. I don't have that capability and simply gave you all the details of how this scam operates and a link to a typical scam ad posted here in Calgary and asked for your comments.
I never asked for your handholding and did say in my PM, at the very beginning, that if I had sent this PM to the WRONG person, to please just advise me or forward it to a more appropriate person.
Had I any idea what a jerk you or others on this website could be, I would have never bothered.
Trust me, I've learned my lesson.

as far as i know, he owns your name posted on this website.
so dont give him too much attitude? lol

[gen2teggy]

u guys scared him away

[rage2]

Originally posted by 749009
Oh for crissakes rage2! You know damn well why I PM'd you. I MISTAKENLY, thought you were an administrator capable of posting PERMANENT notices on the Marketplace, Cars for Sale subsection.
Here's what I just heard:

Originally posted by 749009
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If I was to post all the scams that's out there on our forums, I'd have to rename this site to http://www.internetscams.com or something.

Originally posted by 749009
Had I any idea what a jerk you or others on this website could be, I would have never bothered.
Welcome to the internet. Enjoy your stay. http://www.virgeweb.com/rage2/type.gif

[handsomebassman]

Originally posted by 749009
Had I any idea what a jerk you or others on this website could be, I would have never bothered.
Trust me, I've learned my lesson.

Dont let it all deter you. Not everyone is an asshole on here, and i still dont know why you got flamed for trying to help, but trust me, some of us appreciate it. And as much as i dont understand rage2's comment about ignoring your PM because he didnt "feel it neccesary", it is only a public forum, beyond is not his life.

[Kona9]

749009 in all honesty, BEYOND is a great site. There is ALOT of good goings on here.
You have to understand Rage2 is a busy guy. I mean...This is HIS site. Minor mis-communication perhaps? Apparently the lack of mental capacity driving some of these replies is a little much. (ca2p3r PMing is free!! :thumbsup: )

All in all its understandbale you were just doing a nice gesture for the auto world. It could have been handled a bit different IMO.
But then again, this is the internet!! You have to understand some people are HUGE behind a keyboard!! :rofl: :rofl:

Stick around it's a good place! Don't let this piddly hack session get to ya! You could have your picture posted in "Ask Leo" :clap:

[rage2]

Why did I respond this way? 2 reasons.

1. I'm an asshole
2. I'm HUGE behind the keyboard

:rofl:

If there's no assholes on beyond, I'd never read it haha.

[ca2p3r]

lmao @ gen2teggy sig
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Bill Cosby]

fuck enough with this stupid scam, if you get tricked by it you are a real fucking retard, people report this scam to bargainfinder about 1000 times a day, boo fucking hoo, deal with it.. honestly.. if you think you can buy a 2002 BMW with 56,000miles on it for $4000, you dont deserve that money as much as a scam artist does..

i dont blame rage for ignoring this pm

honestly, any internet forum with an open marketplace will fall victim to scams ie. Z24_3.1, but its an open forum if someone is posting something that is too good to be true and is shady one or more people will make comment on it and deter a sale

although your efforts to thwart possible scams was commendable it was un-neccesary

[Weapon_R]

749009: Honestly, you could have just as easily got your msg across by starting a thread on the issue. If your warning has as much credibility as you say, frequent members would have all read the post and and we would have all been informed about this problem.

You are more than welcome to post your warning - those who are interested in your msg will see it and the purpose of your threead will reach anyone who reads the thread. Further, if your msg had any real significance for our members, it would have likely been sticked anyways. You are the first person i've seen that has needed to ask for permission to post a thread! That is what this forum is all about.

Instead, you've exhausted a lot of unnecessary energy promoting the benefits of your msg. Twenty posts later, i'm still wondering what your warning is :confused:

[Goblin]

Common sense aint so common.

[ZorroAMG]

LOL @ Rage2 actually taking the time to correctly associate his "waaaa" 's with the length of the real words....Caps AND punctuation?? WELL DONE, Sir!!



:rofl:

[nismodrifter]

Originally posted by ZorroAMG
LOL @ Rage2 actually taking the time to correctly associate his "waaaa" 's with the length of the real words....Caps AND punctuation?? WELL DONE, Sir!!

:rofl:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[BerserkerCatSplat]

Originally posted by ZorroAMG
LOL @ Rage2 actually taking the time to correctly associate his "waaaa" 's with the length of the real words....Caps AND punctuation?? WELL DONE, Sir!!



And he says he doesn't have time to respond to PM's! ;) :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[rage2]

haha about time someone fucking noticed! :rofl:

replying to PMs is no fun. Being an asshole is way more enjoyable! :thumbsup:

[Khyron]

Excuse me, but may I reply to this thread?

Khyron

[googe]

Originally posted by ZorroAMG
LOL @ Rage2 actually taking the time to correctly associate his "waaaa" 's with the length of the real words....Caps AND punctuation?? WELL DONE, Sir!!



:rofl:

ahahaha, not only an asshole, but an obsessive compulsive one!

[Bill Cosby]

Originally posted by by a whiney baby


Trust me I realize that my efforts were unnecessary, but, what you and everyone else failed to understand was that I was simply asking for an approriate contact person on Beyond. Nothing else.

I did in fact contact kenny and he politely replied to me shortly thereafter and that was the end of it UNTIL all the rest of you......insert appropriate word.......had to stick your noses in where they clearly didn't belong.

Had rage2 simply replied to me in a timely fashion saying, "thanks for your concern, but, Beyonders are very familiar with this specific type of scam, so I don't feel a sticky warning is required, but, post a thread if you like", that would have been the end of it and I never would have posted anything.

But instead, Mr. I get over 100 PM's per day ignores my PM and then has lots of time now to flame me for simply asking for an appropriate contact person.

And the rest of the intellectual giants pile on afterwards.
Well, by now you realize I'm not going to respond on the thread and likely will forego Beyond for some time after this wonderful experience.



rage2 can you translate this for me
AHAHAH

[rage2]

Originally posted by Bill Cosby
rage2 can you translate this for me
AHAHAH
OK

Originally posted by Bill Cosby
I am a gay fudgepacker
AHAHAH

[BerserkerCatSplat]

:rofl:
http://www.freedomofthought.com/images/fudgepacker.jpg

[ScCab]

seriously you are an asshole
rage2. aka ASSHOLE:whocares: :drama:

[2000_SI]

Originally posted by BerserkerCatSplat
:rofl:
http://www.freedomofthought.com/images/fudgepacker.jpg :rofl: :rofl:

[carter_prelude]

Originally posted by handsomebassman


Dont let it all deter you. Not everyone is an asshole on here, and i still dont know why you got flamed for trying to help, but trust me, some of us appreciate it. And as much as i dont understand rage2's comment about ignoring your PM because he didnt "feel it neccesary", it is only a public forum, beyond is not his life.

:werd: I like being informed of possible scams and such. Care to explain how this scam works?? I've heard of it, but never knew how it works.

[teggypimp95]

Originally posted by Weapon_R
749009:
Instead, you've exhausted a lot of unnecessary energy promoting the benefits of your msg. Twenty posts later, i'm still wondering what your warning is :confused:

HAha thats what i was thinking. "umm has he even said what the scam is yet?" if you need to get a point across, and it was nice of you to go out of your way, just post it and those who do there homework will read it and know to watch for it, and those who dont will get scammed and deserve to if their that dumb.

[Fosgate R]

Originally posted by carter_prelude


:werd: I like being informed of possible scams and such. Care to explain how this scam works?? I've heard of it, but never knew how it works.

Yeah seriously, I can't beleive he got flamed so bad for trying to help...lol.:rolleyes:

[ca2p3r]

Originally posted by BerserkerCatSplat
:rofl:
http://www.freedomofthought.com/images/fudgepacker.jpg

:rofl: :rofl:

[googe]

Originally posted by Bill Cosby


rage2 can you translate this for me
AHAHAH

Here, you can emulate rage2's brain filter with this sed script!

's/[[:lower:]]/a/g; s/[[:upper:]]/A/g; s/^[[:upper:]]/W/g; s/ [[:lower:]]/ w/g; s/ [[:upper:]]/ W/g'

input:


Trust me I realize that my efforts were unnecessary, but, what you and everyone else failed to understand was that I was simply asking for an approriate contact person on Beyond. Nothing else.

I did in fact contact kenny and he politely replied to me shortly thereafter and that was the end of it UNTIL all the rest of you......insert appropriate word.......had to stick your noses in where they clearly didn't belong.

Had rage2 simply replied to me in a timely fashion saying, "thanks for your concern, but, Beyonders are very familiar with this specific type of scam, so I don't feel a sticky warning is required, but, post a thread if you like", that would have been the end of it and I never would have posted anything.

But instead, Mr. I get over 100 PM's per day ignores my PM and then has lots of time now to flame me for simply asking for an appropriate contact person.

And the rest of the intellectual giants pile on afterwards.
Well, by now you realize I'm not going to respond on the thread and likely will forego Beyond for some time after this wonderful experience.

output:


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[rage2]

Originally posted by teggypimp95
HAha thats what i was thinking. "umm has he even said what the scam is yet?" if you need to get a point across, and it was nice of you to go out of your way, just post it and those who do there homework will read it and know to watch for it, and those who dont will get scammed and deserve to if their that dumb.
If you really wanted to know it was a fake car ad that lists a car for super cheap, guy asks for deposit without you ever seeing the car, you lose deposit cuz it was fake. LOL seriously, I don't think I need to post a warning for common sense.

Next thing you'll know, I'll have to post up a warning not to buy high end stereo equipment out of the back of a van at the Superstore parking lot too.

[Khyron]

WARNING: Prince Mugibar from Narobi isn't really going to deposit 80 million dollars into your Royal Bank account as claimed in his email. I've fallen for this 19 times. Maybe next time it will happen.

Khyron

[BerserkerCatSplat]

Originally posted by Khyron
WARNING: Prince Mugibar from Narobi isn't really going to deposit 80 million dollars into your Royal Bank account as claimed in his email. I've fallen for this 19 times. Maybe next time it will happen.

Khyron

Wait, I thought Prince Mugibar was my friend! You stole him! :cry:

[Rockski]

wait trev, you, a friend, that just DOES NOT make sence


ial man ial :D

[BerserkerCatSplat]

Originally posted by Rockski
wait trev, you, a friend, that just DOES NOT make sence


ial man ial :D

Jerk. :rofl:

[eur0]

this thread made me angry just reading it from the start...i may be a bastard but seriously, who gives a shit? theres probably so many stolen goods being traded in the market place but who knows? your money is your money, spend wisely...

[talonboi]

Originally posted by rage2

If you really wanted to know it was a fake car ad that lists a car for super cheap, guy asks for deposit without you ever seeing the car, you lose deposit cuz it was fake. LOL seriously, I don't think I need to post a warning for common sense.

Next thing you'll know, I'll have to post up a warning not to buy high end stereo equipment out of the back of a van at the Superstore parking lot too.

maybe 749009 was dumb enough to fall for it.. thats why hes soo mad