Popo

[kane584]

hey is anybody here a popo ?
i was wondering how hard is it to get in,
i heard edmonton police pays pretty well and all yo need is 2 years post secondary and a high skool diploma, also have to be in good shape.. :dunno:
but i doubt any body here is in the police here ..

[AllGoNoShow]

First u need to be able to spell, they don't accept speeding in skool zones in the court room.

Second of all, its not Popo if you plan on bieng one, its Police or Law Enforcement. Popo is a term people use on the street.

[mo_money2supe]

The Edmonton police force is also one of the hardest departments to get into in Canada. Don't know why though; perhaps it's to direct the people around the horribly designed roads? :D If you're serious, try the RCMP first. Not to discredit their work, but they're much easier to get into than municipal departments.

[kane584]

Originally posted by mo_money2supe
The Edmonton police force is also one of the hardest departments to get into in Canada. Don't know why though; perhaps it's to direct the people around the horribly designed roads? :D If you're serious, try the RCMP first. Not to discredit their work, but they're much easier to get into than municipal departments.

yeah i heard that too, they dont even do a polygraph test lol

[Traffic_Cop]

Well firstly you have to be clear of criminal activity for 3 years, reading your other post in Law/Society that kinda rule you out right there.

The RCMP do conduct a Polygraph test. My advise to you would be "straighten up & fly right", and stopping trying to out-run the Police.

[Talies R]

Originally posted by kane584


yeah i heard that too, they dont even do a polygraph test lol

You've heard wrong, they do infact do polygraph testing!

Believe it or not, one of the questions they ask is if you've thought about having sex with a dog!!!

[TurboMedic]

Thats the part that disqualified you eh Talies? :barf:

[l8braker]

Were you not running away from your school police officer just the other day? Choose another profession, you carrying a gun scares the hell out of me.

[403Gemini]

Originally posted by l8braker
Were you not running away from your school police officer just the other day? Choose another profession, you carrying a gun scares the hell out of me.

dont worry, its a lengthly process that hedges out a bunch of retards like him ;)

[5abi]

yup edmontons the hardest to get into mostly because of their physical, its not much but for an average guy its quite a bit.

I"ll be completeting my applications 2 both calgary and edmonton this summer.

[Shaolin]

They'll take one good look at you and whether tell you are old enough or not before you even do all those tests..

[Sharpie]

Originally posted by Talies R


You've heard wrong, they do infact do polygraph testing!

Believe it or not, one of the questions they ask is if you've thought about having sex with a dog!!!

Shit I'd lose out right away.:thumbsdow

[Moe Man]

you dont need 2 years of post secondary to get in, you just need some sort of post secondary ed. you also need many volunteer hours, and it is good to have CPR, AADAC, etc. main thing is to have experence, you need life experence and possably a security job, like securor, casino security, etc.

it is not as easy as it sounds, you have to want to do it really bad to get in.

[sputnik]

Originally posted by Talies R
Believe it or not, one of the questions they ask is if you've thought about having sex with a dog!!!

What if you say "yes" and the polygraph shows that you were lying?

[ryder_23]

Originally posted by sputnik


What if you say "yes" and the polygraph shows that you were lying?

Then good luck getting a job with CPS in the future :rofl:

[Sophal]

Join the army. that'll prepare you the most for a career in law enforcement.

[mr_smiley]

only problem with the rcmp is that u could end up in newere u dont get to pic were ur gunna get posted...my buddys dad is ex tact team and he was telling me that with basic military training u get put right on the list for the tack team..that was a couple years ago so dunno if its changed at all

[94SSEi]

Dunno, I've always heard they prefer non-Military candidates. Depsite the obvious parallels between the two jobs, police departments want people free of "born to kill" socialization. Many military principles just don't translate well into a situation where you are dealing with civilians, and the majority of your duties don't involve going to ground and returning fire.

[MudCrawler]

The only reason i will never in my life attempt becoming a calgary police officer is due to the polygraph. Id be a great candidate otherwise, but ill get messed up when they ask questions such as that dog one ^^, plus the fact that ive smoked alot of grass in my life which im sure wont help me when they ask about my history. Im just worried id go through all the work to get in and then fail the polygraph somehow.

But to Kane, are you sure you are ready for it? I mean, lol, didnt you get into an accident running from a rent a cop a couple of days ago?

PS: IF you want to be part of Edmonton Law Enforcement, i suggest calling it that from now on, instead of "popo" like a wigger.

[rbau493]

Originally posted by 94SSEi
Dunno, I've always heard they prefer non-Military candidates. Depsite the obvious parallels between the two jobs, police departments want people free of "born to kill" socialization. Many military principles just don't translate well into a situation where you are dealing with civilians, and the majority of your duties don't involve going to ground and returning fire.


Thats incorrect.

They love ex military members. I know so many people from my unit alone that have gone on to join the EPS.


Also the only reason I joined the military, was because I was told by a RCMP recruiter that they really like people with military backgrounds.

I dont know where you get the thought that military members have this "born to kill" attitude. The majority of my job does not involve "going to ground and returning fire", we have very strict rules on that (ROE). We would be no different then the police, in that we do not fire until fired upon. We are peacekeepers, we basically do the same job as police do in Canada, but in different parts of the world.


Just some FYI for ya. :thumbsup:

[kane584]

Originally posted by MudCrawler
The only reason i will never in my life attempt becoming a calgary police officer is due to the polygraph. Id be a great candidate otherwise, but ill get messed up when they ask questions such as that dog one ^^, plus the fact that ive smoked alot of grass in my life which im sure wont help me when they ask about my history. Im just worried id go through all the work to get in and then fail the polygraph somehow.

But to Kane, are you sure you are ready for it? I mean, lol, didnt you get into an accident running from a rent a cop a couple of days ago?

PS: IF you want to be part of Edmonton Law Enforcement, i suggest calling it that from now on, instead of "popo" like a wigger.

I talked to a few cops, they said everyone has tried weed, even themselves, "but as long as you are honest and have integrity, you can have the privalage of being a police officer"

SO if I come out clean, then they can accept me..
and besides I work @ mall security right now, so thats a plus ( west edmonton mall )

Also, RCMP doesnt do polygraph, and is extremly easy to get in, but the only downside is they might post you in some crappy town like ...lets say Hinton or Edson, or even some cold as towns in Yukon, or NWT. And you cant complain becasue you already signed a contract :cry:

[TrevorK]

You guys misunderstand one of the meanings of the polygraph test - it's to see if you lie to them. Let's face it - these days, most people would be lying if they said "I've never used drugs".

That's what the police want to see - is whether you're lying. They'll obviously take your answers into consideration, but just because you've done some drugs doesn't mean you're not getting hired.

At least that's how my buddy explains it to me...

[94SSEi]

Originally posted by rbau493



Thats incorrect.

They love ex military members. I know so many people from my unit alone that have gone on to join the EPS.


Also the only reason I joined the military, was because I was told by a RCMP recruiter that they really like people with military backgrounds.

I dont know where you get the thought that military members have this "born to kill" attitude. The majority of my job does not involve "going to ground and returning fire", we have very strict rules on that (ROE). We would be no different then the police, in that we do not fire until fired upon. We are peacekeepers, we basically do the same job as police do in Canada, but in different parts of the world.


Just some FYI for ya. :thumbsup:

Oh don't get me wrong, I am not trying to imply soldiers are "ignorant baby-killers" or anything as archaic as that. And I know that there are significant peacekeeping duties required of the military and those so involved. And I'm willing to concede that some recruiters may prefer military experience, since I just heard it from a cop, so that doesn't necessarily make it 100% accurate.

However, you cannot deny the process of socialization that is involved in training a soldier. It has been long established in the social sciences as a fairly standard model for almost all of the world's armies, be it Canada, Germany, China, or the Congo. The basic premise is the same. The idea is to get people to think in terms of "friend and foe," and no more complicated than that. And while saying "born to kill" may be somewhat sensationalist, military training does serve to equip you to take the life of an "enemy," and in the process to dehumanize them.

[kane584]

Originally posted by TrevorK
You guys misunderstand one of the meanings of the polygraph test - it's to see if you lie to them. Let's face it - these days, most people would be lying if they said "I've never used drugs".

That's what the police want to see - is whether you're lying. They'll obviously take your answers into consideration, but just because you've done some drugs doesn't mean you're not getting hired.

At least that's how my buddy explains it to me...

Exactly stated, to test honesty

[5hift]

Originally posted by kane584


Exactly stated, to test honesty

Smoking weed once in a while is one thing, but your kidding yourself if other stupid things you have done wont come up in the polygraph and effect your chances (running from the police etc.)

On top of that, if you actually are serious about joining the "Popo", I hope your doing it for the right reasons and not just to get a gun and abuse your power.

[kane584]

Originally posted by 5hift


Smoking weed once in a while is one thing, but your kidding yourself if other stupid things you have done wont come up in the polygraph and effect your chances (running from the police etc.)

On top of that, if you actually are serious about joining the "Popo", I hope your doing it for the right reasons and not just to get a gun and abuse your power.

Now exactly what whould be the right reasons ?

[ryder_23]

Originally posted by 5hift


Smoking weed once in a while is one thing, but your kidding yourself if other stupid things you have done wont come up in the polygraph and effect your chances (running from the police etc.)



Police realize people make mistakes in the past. What theyre looking for is people who decide they want to join the police force, and are a straight arrow from then on.

As stated, they just do polygraph to see if you will lie to them, most of the "bad" stuff is weeded out in interviews and other tests.

As for RCMP, they now have the polygraph. http://www.rcmp.ca/recruiting/polygraph_e.htm

and shitty thing about RCMP is you gotta pay to train, where as CPS pays you :rofl:

[USED]

Originally posted by ryder_23


and shitty thing about RCMP is you gotta pay to train, where as CPS pays you :rofl:

Not true, the only thing you have to pay for in the RCMP is your personal costs, such as drycleaning, school supplies, etc. All other costs including relocation to Depot are provided.

[CrvenaZvezda]

talk to harley11 from what i understand he was just accepted into the police force!!!

[Rollin']

who the hell told you RCMP was easier to get in? and the infact do polygraph, why don't you attend an info session before spreading such uninformed third party facts.


Originally posted by kane584


I talked to a few cops, they said everyone has tried weed, even themselves, "but as long as you are honest and have integrity, you can have the privalage of being a police officer"

SO if I come out clean, then they can accept me..
and besides I work @ mall security right now, so thats a plus ( west edmonton mall )

Also, RCMP doesnt do polygraph, and is extremly easy to get in, but the only downside is they might post you in some crappy town like ...lets say Hinton or Edson, or even some cold as towns in Yukon, or NWT. And you cant complain becasue you already signed a contract :cry:

[Rollin']

you wouldn't have to ask if you knew.... don't look at it as an easy job to get into or something you do because you are uncertain of a career path.


Originally posted by kane584


Now exactly what whould be the right reasons ?

[Rollin']

Originally posted by TrevorK
You guys misunderstand one of the meanings of the polygraph test - it's to see if you lie to them. Let's face it - these days, most people would be lying if they said "I've never used drugs".

That's what the police want to see - is whether you're lying. They'll obviously take your answers into consideration, but just because you've done some drugs doesn't mean you're not getting hired.

At least that's how my buddy explains it to me...
exactly, i know RCMP and municipal cops that have done coke, and even one that did ice. they were straight up about it and told the truth (they were also clean for many years since) and they were accepted. one of their supervisors even stated that if anything, it gave them an advantage in experience.

[kane584]

Originally posted by Rollin'
you wouldn't have to ask if you knew.... don't look at it as an easy job to get into or something you do because you are uncertain of a career path.



its been my life long goal/dream ,i duno what ur thinkin :dunno:

[~Leah~]

Originally posted by kane584


its been my life long goal/dream ,i duno what ur thinkin :dunno:

No offence, but if it has been your lifelong goal and dream, wouldn't you know more about it? Have attended information sessions, not run from rent-a-cops, etc?

[ryder_23]

Originally posted by USED


Not true, the only thing you have to pay for in the RCMP is your personal costs, such as drycleaning, school supplies, etc. All other costs including relocation to Depot are provided.

Ok i should of defintely phrased it better...however they say average cost is around 4600$...still, i just mean like CPS where you dont pay for any of this, u are actually paid...where as RCMP you pay, ur not making money until you possibly graduate, say if you dont graduate, u forfeit 5 1/2 months of salary..

[95EagleAWD]

Originally posted by kane584


I talked to a few cops, they said everyone has tried weed, even themselves, "but as long as you are honest and have integrity, you can have the privalage of being a police officer"

SO if I come out clean, then they can accept me..
and besides I work @ mall security right now, so thats a plus ( west edmonton mall )

Also, RCMP doesnt do polygraph, and is extremly easy to get in, but the only downside is they might post you in some crappy town like ...lets say Hinton or Edson, or even some cold as towns in Yukon, or NWT. And you cant complain becasue you already signed a contract :cry:

If you think RCMP is easy to get in, you have news coming. Very bad attitude to approach it with. I applied at 19, make it through all the steps and was deferred for a lack of life experience. My application, btw, was not finished until soon after I turned 21. It took almost 20 months to complete the RCMP application process, and my time is average.

Also, you better be 3 years crime free. And I mean, crime free. No drugs, no driving drunk, no running from police, rent-a-cop or not, no stealing, etc. Whether you've been caught or not, they will find out.

When I applied, the RCMP sent an officer to canvas my street on my personal habits, my driving habits, what kind of guy I was, everything.

Also, I've been through a polygraph before and they are... interesting. Don't lie, because they'll know, and that will fuck up you applying to any other department in the country. Download the Personal Disclosure Form from either the EPS or CPS website. That's the kinds of things they will ask you.

Also, consider where you may be stationed. By the time I was done my RCMP application, I really wish I had of applied with CPS or EPS. I do not want to be stuck in a small town. I want to be busy; what kind of cop do you want to be? Small towns are fine for some people, but I'd rather be chasing bad guys all day long.

My interview took two and a half hours. I've heard of longer. It was quite relaxed, and the behavior based questions are easy to answer provided you have prepared answers in advance. The first question they asked me is: "Why do you want to be a cop?" Lifelong dream doesn't cut it. You had better want to help your community, make a difference, work with people to solve their problems, etc.

Also, for your interview, shave; wear a suit, the whole shebang. Do not underdress, they will not be impressed. Shake hands, call them sir or ma'am. Eye contact, always.

The medical is, of course, no fun. I hate going to the doctor on a good note, and going for a complete physical blows. The latexed fingers sum up that tale. :thumbsdow

If you approach this half-assed, they'll know right away. Don't waste your time unless you're 100% commited to doing it right.

[Moe Man]

ya i was told the same thing, not enough life experience. so i am getting all my shit straight before i apply. so i have been watching what i have been doing for the past year, no more fucken around.

[turbotrip]

Originally posted by kane584


and besides I work @ mall security right now, so thats a plus ( west edmonton mall )


:rofl: thats just great, a rent-a-cop running from another rent-a-cop

[Traffic_Cop]

Originally posted by 95EagleAWD


If you think RCMP is easy to get in, you have news coming. Very bad attitude to approach it with. I applied at 19, make it through all the steps and was deferred for a lack of life experience. My application, btw, was not finished until soon after I turned 21. It took almost 20 months to complete the RCMP application process, and my time is average.

Also, you better be 3 years crime free. And I mean, crime free. No drugs, no driving drunk, no running from police, rent-a-cop or not, no stealing, etc. Whether you've been caught or not, they will find out.

When I applied, the RCMP sent an officer to canvas my street on my personal habits, my driving habits, what kind of guy I was, everything.

Also, I've been through a polygraph before and they are... interesting. Don't lie, because they'll know, and that will fuck up you applying to any other department in the country. Download the Personal Disclosure Form from either the EPS or CPS website. That's the kinds of things they will ask you.

Also, consider where you may be stationed. By the time I was done my RCMP application, I really wish I had of applied with CPS or EPS. I do not want to be stuck in a small town. I want to be busy; what kind of cop do you want to be? Small towns are fine for some people, but I'd rather be chasing bad guys all day long.

My interview took two and a half hours. I've heard of longer. It was quite relaxed, and the behavior based questions are easy to answer provided you have prepared answers in advance. The first question they asked me is: "Why do you want to be a cop?" Lifelong dream doesn't cut it. You had better want to help your community, make a difference, work with people to solve their problems, etc.

Also, for your interview, shave; wear a suit, the whole shebang. Do not underdress, they will not be impressed. Shake hands, call them sir or ma'am. Eye contact, always.

The medical is, of course, no fun. I hate going to the doctor on a good note, and going for a complete physical blows. The latexed fingers sum up that tale. :thumbsdow

If you approach this half-assed, they'll know right away. Don't waste your time unless you're 100% commited to doing it right.

:thumbsup: Hit the nail on the head!!!!, good job, very good info.

[95EagleAWD]

Originally posted by Traffic_Cop


:thumbsup: Hit the nail on the head!!!!, good job, very good info.

Then hire me goddammit!!! :rofl:

[kane584]

Originally posted by 95EagleAWD


If you think RCMP is easy to get in, you have news coming. Very bad attitude to approach it with. I applied at 19, make it through all the steps and was deferred for a lack of life experience. My application, btw, was not finished until soon after I turned 21. It took almost 20 months to complete the RCMP application process, and my time is average.

Also, you better be 3 years crime free. And I mean, crime free. No drugs, no driving drunk, no running from police, rent-a-cop or not, no stealing, etc. Whether you've been caught or not, they will find out.

When I applied, the RCMP sent an officer to canvas my street on my personal habits, my driving habits, what kind of guy I was, everything.

Also, I've been through a polygraph before and they are... interesting. Don't lie, because they'll know, and that will fuck up you applying to any other department in the country. Download the Personal Disclosure Form from either the EPS or CPS website. That's the kinds of things they will ask you.

Also, consider where you may be stationed. By the time I was done my RCMP application, I really wish I had of applied with CPS or EPS. I do not want to be stuck in a small town. I want to be busy; what kind of cop do you want to be? Small towns are fine for some people, but I'd rather be chasing bad guys all day long.

My interview took two and a half hours. I've heard of longer. It was quite relaxed, and the behavior based questions are easy to answer provided you have prepared answers in advance. The first question they asked me is: "Why do you want to be a cop?" Lifelong dream doesn't cut it. You had better want to help your community, make a difference, work with people to solve their problems, etc.

Also, for your interview, shave; wear a suit, the whole shebang. Do not underdress, they will not be impressed. Shake hands, call them sir or ma'am. Eye contact, always.

The medical is, of course, no fun. I hate going to the doctor on a good note, and going for a complete physical blows. The latexed fingers sum up that tale. :thumbsdow

If you approach this half-assed, they'll know right away. Don't waste your time unless you're 100% commited to doing it right.

great info, thanks :clap: