New Po Po station down town

[BiG_BoI_LuDe]

http://calsun.canoe.ca/News/Alberta/2006/05/05/1566552.html I can agree with everything else but Po Po HQ is downtown... why would he want a new station....????

[DJ Lazy]

Out of that WHOLE article.. all you cared about asking was why they want to have another Police Station?

[TurboMedic]

because running a station and a HQ is a little cramped for space, and a little different in terms of space usage......EMS just did it too, relocated HQ....sometimes its just needed

[shawtie]

Originally posted by DJ Lazy
Out of that WHOLE article.. all you cared about asking was why they want to have another Police Station?

you mean Po Po station lol

[DJ Lazy]

Originally posted by Cheeky


you mean Po Po station lol

My bad... my gangsta lingo isn't up to par lately.. :rofl: ;)

[Lo)2enz0]

Originally posted by DJ Lazy


My bad... my gangsta lingo isn't up to par lately.. :rofl: ;)

straight up gangster lingo thats is :rofl:

[shawtie]

yes po po is sooooo gangsta haha

[Xtrema]

Hmmm, that was suppose to be a refund to tax payers. But now it's used to patrol the core? Show business @ the core should foot that bill? I don't' live down there. 80% of Calgary don't work there.

[dragonone]

po po's gangster
i thought that sounded something like what a gf would say when she cuddles with ya

[D. Dub]

Originally posted by Xtrema
Hmmm, that was suppose to be a refund to tax payers. But now it's used to patrol the core? Show business @ the core should foot that bill? I don't' live down there. 80% of Calgary don't work there.

Me either...but...to build a strong and vibrant city you need to start with a strong and vibrant downtown core....

[barbarian]

Originally posted by Xtrema
Hmmm, that was suppose to be a refund to tax payers. But now it's used to patrol the core? Show business @ the core should foot that bill? I don't' live down there. 80% of Calgary don't work there.

Does that 80% include kids in school, and college students, many who depend on someone who does work down there?

[joyridder]

Although mnay woulld agree that maybe the money should be spent elsewhere, I think its a great way to clean up the DT core. I work downtown and spend alot of time walking around. There are many areas that are dirty and rundown, yet there are places that are quite nice too. I think its mainly the eastside, around the older train platforms, and the drop in centre. More police would be nice but at the sametime I am sure there are many other areas that face the same problems...

[Maxt]

It will do nothing to clean up the downtown core... The freaking junkies use to shoot up and smoke crack in plain view in the alley between CPS headquarters and the York Hotel. The cops largely ignore alot of drug addiction and drug related crime as an uncontrollable social problem, so they chose to do nothing about it.
I use to have to do service calls at the York Hotel for the mechanical equipment, probably the unsafest alley in Calgary, and the most heavily travelled piece of ashphalt by the CPS.. Even leaving the service trucks in the barbed wire compound locked behind the york wasnt safe. You'd still come down and find some rummy trying to pry the door lock out, with cops driving right by, it was totally stunned.. If the police had any handle on crime as it was, they wouldnt need two gated and barbed wire compounds next to their own building for their own cars..
I cant see giving them another building making them care anymore about what goes on in front of their noses, or " building a strong and vibrant" core, who comes up with those bullshit catchphrases anyway, thats lefty civic politician marketing speak and isn't reality...
Wanna improve the core, move the homeles shelters out of downtown and closer to the industrial sections where they might actually have a chance of finding a job and dont have to pay for bus and c-train to get employment...There is not purpose to homeless shelters in the downtown, where are those types of people going to get a job, Citi-corp or TD, yeah right.. Homelessness is now an industry..Dont expect any of it to ever make sense, or ever be cured...
All Bronconnier is proving, is the age old adage that government will always expand to use every ounce of resources available to it, whether more government is needed or not..
Pretty good way of silencing the public unions though come election time, by their members more and more crap every year and make more public service jobs...

[snowcatxx87]

^ exactly, they do there thing, cop rolls by, they duck in the buldings etc. then they pop out again, sell some, smoke some, then hide again.

[TurboMedic]

In reply to the above 2 posts....

There is a bit of a problem with drug use downtown. Is it that the CPS isn't doing anything about it? No, trust me, they arrest alot of people. But it is a waste of resources to arrest someone when there is no chance of them being detained for more than 12 hours. The paperwork is unbelievable, and everyone feels they have their civil rights violated. The laws need to change, not CPS. Think about it, some of these drunk druggies and "rubbies" (not rummies, as said earlier........) get out before the paper trail is completed. We have probably 50+ officers in the core, and hundreds of druggies, so they all arrest one or two, and they're all tied up in the APU filling out CYA forms just to have petty possesion charges filed??? Meanwhile, there is nobody patrolling the street. There is no deterrent, and there is little incentive to follow this through. These petty criminals are back out on the street and immediately doing what they were beforehand.

Everyone looks at policing from a very simple standpoint. "they are doing something illegal, arrest them and they will get put away" is not at all how it works. If it was that simple, there would be alot more of it happening, but our jails would be overfull!

Please don't think CPS is turning a blind eye to this stuff, they aren't. Users are little fish in a big pond, and CPS works hard to cut supply (I mean large supply, not the guy down the street who sells you an 1/8th every now and then), slowly the effects will trickle down to the end user, either making it unnattainable, unaffordable, or both.

I have to agree, our homeless shelters, although necissary, are contributing somewhat to the problem. I pick up countless homeless people every week, some are locals, but others come from all over the country because of how calgary treats their homeless! I sympathise with those who are destitute due to circumstance, be it mental illness, debilitating injury, etc, but the majority of these people are homeless by CHOICE....My friends call me cold hearted, but its true, there is little excuse for people who are perfectly capeable of working, but CHOOSE not to because they get 3 square meals a day, a warm place to sleep, they can drink, do drugs, have no responsibility, steal, etc. We have a drop in center (x2 buildings), the mustard seed, alpha house, salvation army (x2 buildings). Our homeless population has exploded since the building of the large drop in. We're catering to the problem, "donate more money, we need more food, we need more shelters, we are over capacity, etc"....we hear that and we plug more into it.

I'm speaking from personal experience aswell, my GF's sister has chosen this route at only age 16, after we provided her a place to live, school to goto, and good food, she felt helping with dishes and going to school were just not fun, so she left. I have ZERO respect for people like that.

Sorry for the rant, I'm very passionate about success, and wanting people to succeed, and get a little bent when I see people abusing the priveledge....

[Tha VZA]

Originally posted by Cheeky
yes po po is sooooo gangsta haha

five ohh...ONE TIME

that's gangsta

:bigpimp:

ciao

[Maxt]

I guess the term rummies is older than you lol....Yes the laws arent great, but with all the focus the cps puts on public safety, they shouldnt and cant allow illegal activity to just go one right in front of their noses, but that reinforces the point anyway, if they arent willing to do it now, will another station make them anymore will to do it?.. No...Yes cops have bigger fish to fry, but its hard to make that point beleievable when they load up the traffic division with members, and have mandatory ticket quotas for all..
The police are focused on shaking down people that are willing to conform to the law, they have abandoned enforcment on those that dont give damn, since its just easier that way, in fact all governments have done, the gun registry is a prime example, the only people it directly effects, are the law abiding..
But yeah the homeless situation is out of hand, and you can see where the money is going, they have been builing homeless institutions, and as the instituions have grown, the people that started them have risen with their size.. The food bank as noble as its cause is, now has a nicely paid managament team, as does mustard seed, Calgary homeless shelter.. Basically executive job creation programs...

[DayGlow]

A new station won't magically change anything. It's a simple fact that like everything else in Calgary the CPS is expanding and the current facility DT isn't large enough for the size of District 1 and all of it's operations to work out the HQ building and the HQ building can use the extra space that moving the District 1 office to a new building for other operations instead of using other space in the DT core.

A lot of the district stations have already been upgraded in the last few years, some are being renovated right now.

[TurboMedic]

Originally posted by Maxt
I guess the term rummies is older than you lol....Yes the laws arent great, but with all the focus the cps puts on public safety, they shouldnt and cant allow illegal activity to just go one right in front of their noses, but that reinforces the point anyway, if they arent willing to do it now, will another station make them anymore will to do it?.. No...Yes cops have bigger fish to fry, but its hard to make that point beleievable when they load up the traffic division with members, and have mandatory ticket quotas for all..
The police are focused on shaking down people that are willing to conform to the law, they have abandoned enforcment on those that dont give damn, since its just easier that way, in fact all governments have done, the gun registry is a prime example, the only people it directly effects, are the law abiding..
But yeah the homeless situation is out of hand, and you can see where the money is going, they have been builing homeless institutions, and as the instituions have grown, the people that started them have risen with their size.. The food bank as noble as its cause is, now has a nicely paid managament team, as does mustard seed, Calgary homeless shelter.. Basically executive job creation programs...

Nope, its still rubbie.....I don't think CPS has loaded up on traffic members, I rarely come across them, and I spend ALOT of time on the roads, after all my job entails alot of driving (station flexing)....You have to realize that a traffic division would have to increase in size proportionally to city growth the same as any other department, and I'm sure they are still shorthanded....I think they need more so they can do more checkstops!

Dayglow- Its my understanding the site of the old EMS HQ on macleod/18th (current EMS 3stn) is going to become another tri-services site....the whole space that elbow casino/hotel used to be on.