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GC84ever
05-14-2006, 11:05 PM
Can someone explain to me the appeal to stretched tires on rims?

I can't see any possible benefit to this trend, all I see is the following negative points:

- less traction compared to proper sized/fitting tire
- higher risk of damaging expensive rims
- alignment gone to hell
- possible suspension and body damage (in reference to deep dish rims that probably require spacers)

http://wp1016621.wp027.webpack.hosteurope.de/fotost/f00473/17.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a179/chrism17/rim.jpg

BerserkerCatSplat
05-14-2006, 11:07 PM
No idea, I think they look rather silly. :dunno:

Rockski
05-14-2006, 11:09 PM
fucking retarded is more like it

snowboard
05-14-2006, 11:09 PM
they look retarded. i like tires with a nice flat sidewall, that is flush with the edge of the rim?

benyl
05-14-2006, 11:13 PM
People have been doing that shit for years. Nothing wrong with it. Looks different.

Why all the hate?

b_t
05-14-2006, 11:14 PM
It lets you fit a wider rim and get some more dish, I guess. The actual handling effect it has, is to make the transition from grip to sliding very gradual and easier to handle. Could be preferable if you are just starting out drifting, maybe.

snowboard
05-14-2006, 11:14 PM
Originally posted by benyl
People have been doing that shit for years. Nothing wrong with it. Looks different.

Why all the hate?


but why?
if they have super wide rims, why not get tires to fit them? so the width was worth the price?

FiveFreshFish
05-14-2006, 11:14 PM
IMO, it's got the same appeal as neon underglow.

CrvenaZvezda
05-14-2006, 11:14 PM
most of these cars are show cars, and this is basically the euro look... this is how german tuners like to make their cars look and i personally like how it looks!!!

88CRX
05-14-2006, 11:15 PM
Originally posted by BerserkerCatSplat
No idea, I think they look rather silly. :dunno:

:werd:

i dont get it... and IMO it looks like ass :dunno: but to each their own.

Darkane
05-14-2006, 11:23 PM
OP: I think its for wannabe ballers that cant fit the right size tire. Refer to the pic of the BMW. With proper sized tires it would hit the fender everytime he hit a bump. Its fucking retarded if you ask me. Function > Fashion. THats what racing is.

GTS Jeff
05-14-2006, 11:25 PM
You're all idiots. Here's why:

-stretched tires are far more resistant to sidewall rollover (I can use 25psi at auto-x and still have no rollover...not that I do, because the floppiness is annoying)

-stretched tires allow you to run wider, crazier looking wheels with less clearance issues. How? Well for example, a set of 8" wide wheels that would rub with 225 series tires might not with 215 series tires


Originally posted by GC84ever
- higher risk of damaging expensive rims
- alignment gone to hell
- possible suspension and body damage (in reference to deep dish rims that probably require spacers)


In response to this:

-not really. If you're a bad enough driver to curb your wheels, they're gonna be curbrashed regardless of the rim protector on the tires

-alignment is not affected by tire stretch, and even if it were, the solution is a $50 alignment

-stretched tires are used to PREVENT rubbing; I couldn't see how suspension damage would occur; and finally, deep dish low offset wheels don't require spacers, spacers are used to do the opposite, that is to push high offset wheels further out.

Hope that answers all your questions. BTW I think stretched tires look awesome:

http://www.ualberta.ca/~jkm1/pics/car/rice.jpg

nismodrifter
05-14-2006, 11:28 PM
Let's you fit a wider wheel and drop your car without rubbing.

I CANNOT stand fat tires. For example, on MK4 VW's there are lots of people running 265's on a 9.5" wide wheel...that is too wide IMO. I would personally run like a 235 or 245 MAX. Why? Because I would not want it to rub like crazy.

As for wrecking wheels I think it is really the driver that counts. As you can see from all the pics of my car I have not curbed or damaged my wheels. I really think that people running stretched rubber will curb/scratch their wheels LESS than people running "regular" sized tires simply because they are more attentive to their driving habits and stuff on the road.

Ignore the wheel gap...car is not close to being level
http://members.shaw.ca/nismodrifter/farm16.JPG

http://members.aol.com/elledechanel/stretch.jpg

$$$$ wheels here. Poked and stretched + dropped like crazy (one of the lowest MK4's out there).
http://dubdojo.com/forum/uploads/post-20-1147241281.jpg

88CRX
05-14-2006, 11:31 PM
You crazy Euro tuners :rofl:

I prefer the wider tires lol.... hell I have 215's and want to go wider lol

herragge
05-21-2006, 09:18 PM
Most of you guys can't understand the look because you all drive Honda's.

Its the euro look, and its been done for a long time now. More DISH you have= more balla you are. Honda's can't take as much dish as RWD hence why it shows up on VW's and Bimmers.

Running the stretched look PREVENTS rubbing and would not damage suspension on otherwise tires that are wider. You have to appreciate stretched to like I suppose.

Mike

ex1z7
05-22-2006, 01:14 AM
Originally posted by nismodrifter

$$$$ wheels here. Poked and stretched + dropped like crazy

What does poked mean ?

nismodrifter
05-22-2006, 01:26 AM
Originally posted by ex1z7


What does poked mean ?

Poked means that the wheels "poke" past the fender. Ie: wheels/tires are past the fender line. Flush is good....but poke is better :D

The black GTI that I posted is a good example of this as well as the BMW in the first post.

Another example:
http://vortex3.rely.net/gallery/albums//Events/Enthusiast/Waterfest/2005/A4%20Golf-Jetta-GTI/024.jpg

tsi_neal
05-22-2006, 02:20 AM
IMO it looks VERY gay, i run 10" wheels so i can run 285 rubber... More rubber means more traction and thats a good thing.

If any of you guys think your getting better performance by streaching the rubber your on crack. and this look is no better than lame tail lights or coffee can mufflers. If you cant fit the tire dont run the rim

Tech2
05-22-2006, 02:31 AM
For the most part way streched is not my style. Sometimes (like nismodrifter) it works out great. Other times, like the first pic, it just looks to me like it doesn't fit. From a style perspective though, who gives a fuck what I think. It's not my car. If I was going to be crazy stylin though, I'd go for something like a 12-8 inch wheel. Meaning the dish would be 12 inches, but the actual mounting rim on the wheel would be 8 inches. Then I can run a 215 all streched over the 8 inches and not rub, and still have wheels sticking out of the fender by 4 inches. Or go michelin man style and have these big puffy inner tube sidewalls sticking way out. Yeah, people would hate, but then it would become a cool fad. The puffy sidewalls would be comfortable on the street, safe for the $$$ rims, and super rad on the drag strip where they would get taller with faster spinning like alcohol racers. Show AND go, yo!

/////AMG
05-22-2006, 03:02 AM
It looks good, only on certain cars.

bennyhanna
05-22-2006, 10:13 AM
I thought Beyond was all about the drift cars?

http://www.exvitermini.com/pics2507/tsvkrb1.jpg

88CRX
05-22-2006, 10:31 AM
Originally posted by Tech2
From a style perspective though, who gives a fuck what I think. It's not my car.

:werd:

but now everyone will fight to the death lol

Aleks
05-22-2006, 01:02 PM
Originally posted by herragge
Most of you guys can't understand the look because you all drive Honda's.

Its the euro look, and its been done for a long time now. More DISH you have= more balla you are. Honda's can't take as much dish as RWD hence why it shows up on VW's and Bimmers.

Running the stretched look PREVENTS rubbing and would not damage suspension on otherwise tires that are wider. You have to appreciate stretched to like I suppose.

Mike

More Balla hey. I am trying to figure out how many RWD VWs are out there. :dunno:

GTS Jeff
05-22-2006, 01:18 PM
Originally posted by Aleks


More Balla hey. I am trying to figure out how many RWD VWs are out there. :dunno: PUNCH BUGGY!!!!

Hollywood
05-22-2006, 01:33 PM
Originally posted by Aleks


More Balla hey. I am trying to figure out how many RWD VWs are out there. :dunno:

:werd:

Staggerd is best at home with RWD, but I have sen soem AWD get away with it too. FWD stagger seems kinda try hardish to me.

Steched is ass burger. Kinda reminds me of the ole mexican ricers with their mustangs and 13" wheels with 16" widths.

snatch
05-22-2006, 01:40 PM
Originally posted by GC84ever
Can someone explain to me the appeal to stretched tires on rims?

I can't see any possible benefit to this trend, all I see is the following negative points:

- less traction compared to proper sized/fitting tire
- higher risk of damaging expensive rims
- alignment gone to hell
- possible suspension and body damage (in reference to deep dish rims that probably require spacers)



Because some people are still into customizing their cars and not spending thousands of dollars to make their car look like something that is completely stock in japan. In my opinion that bimmer looks sick, along with the VW's. :thumbsup:

nismodrifter
05-22-2006, 02:29 PM
Originally posted by Hollywood

Staggerd is best at home with RWD, but I have sen soem AWD get away with it too. FWD stagger seems kinda try hardish to me.

Steched is ass burger. Kinda reminds me of the ole mexican ricers with their mustangs and 13" wheels with 16" widths.

Why is staggered on FWD gay? If it fills up the rears it gets 2 thumbs up from me.

I really don't see how you can compare lowriders with gold dayton's to a tastefully modified Euro just because of the fact that both have tires that go past the fenders. The mexican ricers have tires that stick out about a foot or two...I agree that is gay. Euro's are sticking out like an inch or two max. Not even close to being the same thing.

sullygully
05-22-2006, 05:21 PM
Stretched tires FTW! Always loved that look. Definitely looks good with deep dished rims:bigpimp:

Hollywood
05-22-2006, 06:52 PM
Originally posted by nismodrifter


Why is staggered on FWD gay? If it fills up the rears it gets 2 thumbs up from me.

I really don't see how you can compare lowriders with gold dayton's to a tastefully modified Euro just because of the fact that both have tires that go past the fenders. The mexican ricers have tires that stick out about a foot or two...I agree that is gay. Euro's are sticking out like an inch or two max. Not even close to being the same thing.

I never said ghay, I said it was try-hard'ish.

And now that you mention it the mexican ricers 13"ers even look better than the stretched look....

pinoyhero
05-23-2006, 06:17 AM
Originally posted by FiveFreshFish
IMO, it's got the same appeal as neon underglow.

LOL werd

b_t
05-23-2006, 06:36 AM
Originally posted by tsi_neal
IMO it looks VERY gay, i run 10" wheels so i can run 285 rubber... More rubber means more traction and thats a good thing.

If any of you guys think your getting better performance by streaching the rubber your on crack. and this look is no better than lame tail lights or coffee can mufflers. If you cant fit the tire dont run the rim

its odd that you say that when lots of guys with RX-7s run mega-stretched tires because they like how it makes the car handle :nut:

Audio_Rookie
05-23-2006, 06:50 AM
im not a fan of the inward stretch, I stretch em to the limits outwards :). the wider it is, the more traction...atleast in my eyes. that why my stock 6" wide rims get 225 tires :).

Eric G.

habsfan
05-23-2006, 08:30 AM
sure they'll give a more gradual breakaway/less rollover, but call it whatever you want, i think it just looks retarded. if you're worried about tires rubbing, quit trying to impress everyone with wheels wider than your car can fit. just my opinion.

benyl
05-23-2006, 08:40 AM
Originally posted by Audio_Rookie
im not a fan of the inward stretch, I stretch em to the limits outwards :). the wider it is, the more traction...atleast in my eyes. that why my stock 6" wide rims get 225 tires :).

Eric G.

That is on the verge of dangerous. I wouldn't want to go fast in your car...

nismodrifter
05-23-2006, 10:16 AM
Originally posted by habsfan
sure they'll give a more gradual breakaway/less rollover, but call it whatever you want, i think it just looks retarded. if you're worried about tires rubbing, quit trying to impress everyone with wheels wider than your car can fit. just my opinion.

and do what instead??? run 7" wide gay wheels that make the car look like it's running on stilts?

What do you think about this?? Fenders have been pulled out. 18x10.5's in the rear and 18x9.5's up front. Or would some 18x7's look better?

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h123/skeefoo/Deselect1.jpg

habsfan
05-23-2006, 10:20 AM
honestly i think both of those rims could stand to lose an inch of width and would look better imo.

86max
05-23-2006, 10:28 AM
Originally posted by nismodrifter

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h123/skeefoo/Deselect1.jpg


That is:bigpimp: Wider is better y0!

The honda guys with the sunken pizza cutter wheels will never understand lol.

eb0i
05-23-2006, 10:31 AM
I love the look of them. Poke = hawt :thumbsup:

JspecB16
05-23-2006, 10:35 AM
Originally posted by Aleks


More Balla hey. I am trying to figure out how many RWD VWs are out there. :dunno:

haha ^ lol. :werd:

QuasarCav
05-23-2006, 10:39 AM
Originally posted by habsfan
honestly i think both of those rims could stand to lose an inch of width and would look better imo.


:werd:

I dont know what to say about that.

bspot
05-23-2006, 12:02 PM
Staggered rims on a FWD...

for a RWD car they actually have a purpose, on a FWD car they are trying to look like something they aren't. Like a Type R badge, to a way lesser degree :D

89coupe
05-23-2006, 12:05 PM
Looks like ASS.:thumbsdow

88CRX
05-23-2006, 12:12 PM
"Poke" is ghey IMO.

"Flush" is cool, and it will catch on with the Honda ricers.

Chester
05-23-2006, 12:24 PM
I love stretched tires:drool:

88CRX
05-23-2006, 12:30 PM
BTW, who need poke or flush when you have tuck!

http://www.xducnx.com/images/ikonbbq/New%20Folder/img%20125.jpg

http://img270.imageshack.us/img270/4235/img1205mediumsized5di.jpg

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wMTE1ODY1MzZzNDEzZGZkMzF5NTQx.jpg

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wNjAwMjM3NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wMTEyMjgxODZzNDEzZGZkMzF5NTQx.jpg

89coupe
05-23-2006, 12:32 PM
That looks like ASS as well.:thumbsdow

88CRX
05-23-2006, 12:35 PM
Originally posted by 89coupe
That looks like ASS as well.:thumbsdow

haha, that didnt take long.

Yea, some of those are little extreme but I wish I could go maybe another .5"-1" lower on my ride... looks sweet IMO... but ya, undriveable.


What about this lol

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/3616/edit17kv.jpg

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/9227/edit46fh.jpg

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/5118/edit65mi.jpg

86max
05-23-2006, 12:40 PM
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/dousan/widelow1.jpg

FLUSH & TUCK is where it's at.

4x4's go home.

Hollywood
05-23-2006, 05:21 PM
Originally posted by 89coupe
That looks like ASS as well.:thumbsdow

All of them look like ass! That wannabe widebody jetta gave me diareah!:thumbsdow

FiveFreshFish
05-23-2006, 07:48 PM
When I see stretched tires, it reminds me of something that doesn't quite fit...

http://www.bongonews.com/StoryImages/Thong.jpg

;)

iceburns288
05-23-2006, 08:19 PM
Originally posted by nismodrifter
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h123/skeefoo/Deselect1.jpg

Is that really a JETTA?!?:eek:

:bigpimp: :bigpimp: :bigpimp:

b_t
05-23-2006, 10:38 PM
Originally posted by 86max
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/dousan/widelow1.jpg

FLUSH & TUCK is where it's at.

4x4's go home.

those tires are MADLY stretched to get the car that low... look at the rears!!

tsi_neal
05-23-2006, 10:52 PM
Originally posted by b_t


its odd that you say that when lots of guys with RX-7s run mega-stretched tires because they like how it makes the car handle :nut:


Any RX7 owner i know is all about getting the most tire on the ground as possible, after all that means more traction and faster lap times... maybe its the circles i hang out in... I dont know any of these tire streacher people... But then again i dont drift and it seems that the "tire streachers" are drifters or FWD euro guys that wish they had RWD vehicles...

QuasarCav
05-25-2006, 01:11 PM
Originally posted by 88CRX
"Poke" is ghey IMO.

"Flush" is cool, and it will catch on with the Honda ricers.


That was quite the edit.

nismodrifter
05-25-2006, 07:09 PM
Oh....em.....GEE.

http://www.felgen-man.de/Treffen/E30/1.jpg

:love:

Go wide..or go home.

Hollywood
05-25-2006, 07:15 PM
Originally posted by nismodrifter
Oh....em.....GEE.

http://www.felgen-man.de/Treffen/E30/1.jpg

:love:

Go wide..or go home.

Give me a few weeks and Ill show you wide. Wheels and tires are on the way. *caugh* 20x295 *caugh*:D

tirebob
05-26-2006, 04:27 PM
http://upload.generationdub.com/images/photo90.jpg

Soooooo hawt! Stretch looks amazing!!! Just keep it within tire manufacturers recommeded range...

For all those haters out there... you just don't get it, and that's cool. Either you love it or you don't...

EK 2.0
05-26-2006, 06:43 PM
Hate it or love the streched tire is on top...
And he's gon stretch till his heart stop
Go ahead and envy me...
I'm runnin 330's...on a 8 inch rim...

Elliot
05-26-2006, 07:10 PM
that was stupid ^

86max
05-26-2006, 08:08 PM
How we do.

Hollywood
05-26-2006, 08:16 PM
Originally posted by 86max
How we do.

Wow a street sweeper.:guns: :D

bbcustoms
05-26-2006, 08:17 PM
The first time I saw it I didnt know what to think
After a few views I decided it looked like ass
I began to wonder how this trend came about and the only conclusion I could come to was that some ricer could only afford new rims and had to use his old tires
Its funny how some things are born

EK 2.0
05-27-2006, 01:33 AM
Originally posted by Elliot
that was stupid ^


meh...so are you for not finding humour...:dunno:

tirebob
05-27-2006, 08:41 AM
Originally posted by bbcustoms
The first time I saw it I didnt know what to think
After a few views I decided it looked like ass
I began to wonder how this trend came about and the only conclusion I could come to was that some ricer could only afford new rims and had to use his old tires
Its funny how some things are born Not 100 % sure or anything, but the idea that in Europe there is very strict rules about the tread area of the tire having to remain completely under the fender comes up often. If you want to run really wide rims, you need to stretch the tire to acheive this. And if you follow the style you will see that it appeared prodominently in europe before you saw it here, so that could make sense...

Hollywood
05-27-2006, 10:54 AM
Originally posted by CMSbob
Not 100 % sure or anything, but the idea that in Europe there is very strict rules about the tread area of the tire having to remain completely under the fender comes up often. If you want to run really wide rims, you need to stretch the tire to acheive this. And if you follow the style you will see that it appeared prodominently in europe before you saw it here, so that could make sense...

Ya but u also have to factor in the "euro ricer factor", which is whats this streched and poked looks are. Ive seen some pretty crazy euro ricer shit that tops our ricers here in north america.

ryder_23
05-28-2006, 02:30 PM
Originally posted by EK 2.0



meh...so are you for not finding humour...:dunno:

of course not, goblin aka sno cat (whatever the fuk it was) aka elliot, is still doing the same humourless shit

cycosis
05-28-2006, 02:46 PM
muh, i like em

Teggy2nr
05-28-2006, 02:53 PM
I think the look is wicked on drift cars and eurotuners but on hondas deff the flush look tho

Elliot
05-28-2006, 07:01 PM
Originally posted by ryder_23


of course not, goblin aka sno cat (whatever the fuk it was) aka elliot, is still doing the same humourless shit

I dont see all the hate against me, I am way quieter than most people on here, GTS Jeff, allgo, indy (dc2tuned).

Dont insult very much at all, and I have a great sense of humour, make lots of jokes - of course, not on here, copy pasting a joke isnt fun. situational jokes perhaps.

Anyway, Im partial to the stretched look - really suits some cars, like e30's, but not say a big truck?