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prelube
05-18-2006, 09:21 PM
How badly would b18c1 beat a f22a1 in the quarter mile?

gpomp
05-18-2006, 09:30 PM
by this much ---> <---

Gen4Accord
05-31-2006, 10:35 AM
the b18 should deffinatly win but i got this friend with a 92 prelude like yourself and with the same engine and he took my other friend brett with a 94 gsr quite badly acctually some times it depends more on the driver than the engine good luck...

Jusin

QuasarCav
05-31-2006, 10:39 AM
They would need to be attached to a vehicle.

core_upt
05-31-2006, 12:18 PM
Originally posted by QuasarCav
They would need to be attached to a vehicle.

That's not true.

If the same person (or people of identical strength) was to carry the engines in question down the strip, the fastest time should be acheived with the b18c1 as it is lighter. Not ofcourse accounting for tiredness, slippage, etc.

This has the makings of a new TV series - It could be World's Strongest Man mixed with Pinks!

Akagi
05-31-2006, 04:43 PM
Doesnt the B18a have about 180 horse
and the F22A has about 130??

I owned an 92 prelude S with the f22a... it was slower then slow.

Genjuro
05-31-2006, 04:54 PM
Originally posted by Akagi
Doesnt the B18a have about 180 horse
and the F22A has about 130??

I owned an 92 prelude S with the f22a... it was slower then slow.

No.
Stock B18A has 145hp.. but you know honda. they say this much but its about 20hp less and at about 7k rpm....:nut:

Akagi
05-31-2006, 05:03 PM
Haha oooh I thought the b16A was 160
and the B18 A was 180
or the B16 A was 180 and the b18 a was 200?

can someone give me a quick rundown of the B engines please?

I'm sorry for the newb questoin however I Iviously got it wrong.

finboy
05-31-2006, 05:08 PM
LS1 FTW!!!!11!!!1

mikey_mo_love
05-31-2006, 05:10 PM
Originally posted by Akagi
Haha oooh I thought the b16A was 160
and the B18 A was 180
or the B16 A was 180 and the b18 a was 200?

can someone give me a quick rundown of the B engines please?

I'm sorry for the newb questoin however I Iviously got it wrong.

b18a1 non-vtec 130-140 depending on the year
b18b1 non-vtec 140
b18c1 vtec 170
b18c5 vtec 195

dirty_magic
05-31-2006, 05:21 PM
b18a is either 130, or 140.

dirty_magic
05-31-2006, 05:22 PM
oops, shoulda refreshed.

prelube
05-31-2006, 05:34 PM
im askin about a b18c1 not b18a

Akagi
05-31-2006, 06:04 PM
Originally posted by prelube
im askin about a b18c1 not b18a

Haha then hmm...

b18aC1 probably High 13's low 14's in a quarter mile? can anybody verify this.

and an F22A1 is around 16 +

mikey_mo_love
05-31-2006, 07:36 PM
Originally posted by prelube
im askin about a b18c1 not b18a


Originally posted by mikey_mo_love
b18a1 non-vtec 130-140 depending on the year
b18b1 non-vtec 140
b18c1 vtec 170
b18c5 vtec 195

rahim
05-31-2006, 07:54 PM
Originally posted by Akagi


Haha then hmm...

b18aC1 probably High 13's low 14's in a quarter mile? can anybody verify this.

and an F22A1 is around 16 +

i don't think GSR's can even break into the 14's

Akagi
05-31-2006, 07:56 PM
Sorry I was emplying low 14's, to low 15's.
195 hp VTEC Could get 14's to 15's in a Quartermile??

He's talking about the 195 hp version of the B18aC1 is he not??

rahim
05-31-2006, 07:59 PM
Originally posted by Akagi
Sorry I was emplying low 14's, to low 15's.
195 hp VTEC Could get 14's to 15's in a Quartermile??

He's talking about the 195 hp version of the B18aC1 is he not??


Originally posted by mikey_mo_love

b18c1 vtec 170
b18c5 vtec 195

Akagi
05-31-2006, 08:00 PM
Gotcha.

cressida_pimpin
05-31-2006, 08:14 PM
the b18c1 lighter and has less torque. the f22a has 125hp but has 137 ft/lbs. definatly doesnt have the advantage of hp but for the amount more that it weighs (30 lbs max) the torque makes up for it. does anyone know the exact ft/lbs on the b18c1? i thinks its around 115 or 120?

mikey_mo_love
05-31-2006, 08:35 PM
Originally posted by cressida_pimpin
the b18c1 lighter and has less torque. the f22a has 125hp but has 137 ft/lbs. definatly doesnt have the advantage of hp but for the amount more that it weighs (30 lbs max) the torque makes up for it. does anyone know the exact ft/lbs on the b18c1? i thinks its around 115 or 120?

128

mikey_mo_love
05-31-2006, 08:38 PM
Here is a dyno curve with a couple integras showing torque at the wheels.
For anyone who doesn't know, the gsr has a b18c1 and the type r has a b18c5

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y62/mikey_mo_love/Charts/1.jpg

prelube
05-31-2006, 09:22 PM
im askin this because i have raced one with headers and cold air i no thats not goin to add much but it will alittle and i beat it by about 4-5 car lenths

jdmakkord
05-31-2006, 10:12 PM
Originally posted by prelube
im askin this because i have raced one with headers and cold air i no thats not goin to add much but it will alittle and i beat it by about 4-5 car lenths

Wow, I'd better watch out for your fast ass lude in airdrie:rolleyes: Are you sure he was racing you? Or did he just suck at driving...

mikey_mo_love
05-31-2006, 11:09 PM
Originally posted by prelube
im askin this because i have raced one with headers and cold air i no thats not goin to add much but it will alittle and i beat it by about 4-5 car lenths

i thought you might have wanted to compare powerband locations or something else interesting. i guess i was wrong
can't believe i wasted my time trying to help you for that reason...:thumbsdow

jdmakkord
06-01-2006, 07:32 AM
Ahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahha

Got this PM


prelube wrote on 05-31-2006 11:22 PM:
hey im the guys askin about the b18c1 and f22a1 ya we were racing we went out to the country and lined up and everythin and i beat him by quit abit




:english: Apparently you dont recognise sarcasm very well.

Akagi
06-01-2006, 02:24 PM
Originally posted by mikey_mo_love


i thought you might have wanted to compare powerband locations or something else interesting. i guess i was wrong
can't believe i wasted my time trying to help you for that reason...:thumbsdow

Dont worty about Racer here. * hehe no offense *

I found that graph quite interested.

At low rpms the GSR and base model both have MORE TOURQUE! Then the type R!!!

however in the high rpm's the type R dominates all.

I would have never expected that!

QuasarCav
06-01-2006, 02:27 PM
Originally posted by Akagi


Dont worty about Racer here. * hehe no offense *

I found that graph quite interested.

At low rpms the GSR and base model both have MORE TOURQUE! Then the type R!!!

however in the high rpm's the type R dominates all.

I would have never expected that!


Don't know much about engine theory eh.

mikey_mo_love
06-01-2006, 04:26 PM
Originally posted by Akagi


Dont worty about Racer here. * hehe no offense *

I found that graph quite interested.

At low rpms the GSR and base model both have MORE TOURQUE! Then the type R!!!

however in the high rpm's the type R dominates all.

I would have never expected that!

well here's the graph with gear ratios factored in. it tells a bit of a different story

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y62/mikey_mo_love/Charts/3.jpg

the gsr is able to maintain such a flat torque curve because of two different intake runner lengths on the manifold

jdmakkord
06-01-2006, 08:13 PM
:rofl:

prelube wrote on 06-01-2006 01:29 PM:
wow i was just answerin your question if he new we were racing .. u dont need to be a fuckin asshole


Jeez, I guess I'm an asshole now for being sarcastic.....who woulda know!:D