Saturn Sky: Spotted

[treg50]

I spotted a red Saturn Sky on the road over the weekend. It looks pretty hot. More straight lines and a little less curvy than the Solstice. The rear lights had an interesting sort of white plastic or chrome trim around them. The car looked really good and hard to mistake for another car with the same platform.

Solstice and Sky are couple of hot looking cars.

I did get a good look at the interior but managed to give the driver a thumbsup while in traffic
:thumbsup:

[T78Supra1]

I have seen a couple of them around....however they are all looks.

Quarter Mile time 15.9
1998 Toyota Camry LE V-6 (auto) Quarter mile time 15.9

For a roadster that is Pretty Sad.

[bspot]

Originally posted by T78Supra1
I have seen a couple of them around....however they are all looks.

Quarter Mile time 15.9
1998 Toyota Camry LE V-6 (auto) Quarter mile time 15.9

For a roadster that is Pretty Sad.

Wait for the redline edition.

Also compare it to a Miata then come back. Thanks.

[rage2]

My neighbor has one, I keep seeing it drive by my house. Looks really nice. Mallet or something has a LS2 kit for it already... 400hp!

[heavyD]

Originally posted by T78Supra1
For a roadster that is Pretty Sad.

What's pretty sad is you and your jdm fanboyism. Please don't feel the need to turn every thread about a domestic car into a Japanese vs domestic thread. Would you rather them be priced in S2000 territory for the 15% of potential buyers that care about big performance? The Sky & Solstice with the 2.4L engine post near identical performance numbers to the Japanese made Miata. Pretty sad indeed.:rolleyes:

[guessboi]

^ heyheyhey HeavyD, now don't compare it to my MX5. :D is disappointing to see they need a 2.4L engine to have comparative numbers with my MX5 2L becuase the car is over 300 pounds heavier...
plus I can put my top up inside the car while driving. and I have a hardtop as an option. and soon there will be a retractable hardtop like the SLK and a mazdaspeed version.

looks wise Sky and solstice are not bad indeed. :thumbsup:

[Graham_A_M]

^ Even though the chassis are much the same, apparently the Sky's handle WAY better.

By the way HeavyD, nice one!:D
:werd:

[izzoblitzo]

Those look really sweet in person.. They say they have a blind spot though, as you cant see over your shoulder because of the body.

[bspot]

Originally posted by izzoblitzo
Those look really sweet in person.. They say they have a blind spot though, as you cant see over your shoulder because of the body.

That's what mirrors are for ;)

[Aleks]

Originally posted by heavyD


What's pretty sad is you and your jdm fanboyism. Please don't feel the need to turn every thread about a domestic car into a Japanese vs domestic thread. Would you rather them be priced in S2000 territory for the 15% of potential buyers that care about big performance? The Sky & Solstice with the 2.4L engine post near identical performance numbers to the Japanese made Miata. Pretty sad indeed.:rolleyes:

Rarely agree with this guy but this time I must say :werd:

I've been on this site since the beggining and the jdm vs domestic thing is getting really dumb latelly. I guess this site is getting huge hey.

I love my imports but the solstice and sky are, IMO, a huge step in the right direction for GM.

[M_K_3]

Originally posted by heavyD


What's pretty sad is you and your jdm fanboyism. Please don't feel the need to turn every thread about a domestic car into a Japanese vs domestic thread. Would you rather them be priced in S2000 territory for the 15% of potential buyers that care about big performance? The Sky & Solstice with the 2.4L engine post near identical performance numbers to the Japanese made Miata. Pretty sad indeed.:rolleyes:


:werd:

[C4S]

It is nice car .. however . I think it has been out for a little while?

Saw them everyday .. for sure nicer then the pontiac one ..

:D

[rage2]

Originally posted by C4S
It is nice car .. however . I think it has been out for a little while?

Saw them everyday .. for sure nicer then the pontiac one ..

:D
That's cuz you work right beside a Saturn dealership! :D

[guessboi]

^ lol. :D

[95EagleAWD]

Originally posted by heavyD


What's pretty sad is you and your jdm fanboyism. Please don't feel the need to turn every thread about a domestic car into a Japanese vs domestic thread. Would you rather them be priced in S2000 territory for the 15% of potential buyers that care about big performance? The Sky & Solstice with the 2.4L engine post near identical performance numbers to the Japanese made Miata. Pretty sad indeed.:rolleyes:

:rofl:

heavyD FTW!

[2000_SI]

I was down at Hyatt Saturn today picking up my little sisters new whip, and saw a Sky out front. Cool looking car, especially for a Saturn (Former SL1 owner here...;) )

[avow]

i actually went into the crofoot dealership and they had one sitting there so i helped myself. its a really nice car. alot wider then i thought it would be. but damn the things are sold out until late fall.

[Thaco]

Racecity has one of these for the pace car on the oval. decent looking car, just needs a couple hamster wheels under the hood and it'd be a decent car.

[4doorj]

the sky is pimp!
i love it:thumbsup:

[Xtrema]

Originally posted by izzoblitzo
Those look really sweet in person.. They say they have a blind spot though, as you cant see over your shoulder because of the body.

O RLY? People actually do shoulder checks? Not in my experience.

Sky is pimp but it's sold out for next 6 months. The trunk still bothers me.

[Lo)2enz0]

Originally posted by bspot


That's what mirrors are for ;)

ya, but your don't want to just use your mirrors. blind spots are horriable. I have been almost side swiped many times because of people not shoulder checking.

[Akagi]

Allways shoulder check. Its a habbit I myself have.
Sky looks like a gorgeous car IMO

I like them slightly better then solstice * stolstice has better performance however am I right 8??

Definately going in the right direction for domestics!
BTW Ohnestly imports and domestics arnt made any better or any worse.

Its the drivers who give there cars bad names.. people bag on a caravan and break it...

also there made for differnece purposes but a cars a car none the less.

its just a fact that people * wanto fit into a certain crowd so go all gung ho about certain vehicles *
when really

and this is the ohnest to god truth



IF YOU ARE A CAR FANATIC
AND YOU GO ON CAR SITES
ASPECIALLY IF YOU LIVE IN CANADA OR THE U.S


YOU SHOULD ADMIRE ALL VEHICLES!!
A TRUE CAR FAN, ADMIRES ALL VEHICLES and sees the beauty in all things with an engine..


a 16 year old kid who sais I rock cause I have a skyline, everything else sucks... does not trully admire vehicles.


They dont admire the power and cult factor a chevy camero had in the early 70's

or how hemi cuda's had a slick sexy body for its time!

or how in the early 90's japan started poking its head in the picture comming out of nowhere with these amazing machines which now have competitoin for the states.



a true car enthusiests loves all cars, and can watch a * american muscle car * show on 48 and go oooh..... aaaaahhhh.

not turn off this shiat I want imports...




Plus everybody these days wants to follow someon else, if one person said imports rule over all else
everybody else seems to folllow them... its sad really





LOVE ALLL CARS for what they are

Even mini vans!

Hey I love minivans casue of all the spacial room!
imagine how many babes you can get in that car after a long night of partying it up, if 8 babes wanted to go home wtih you one night
and all you had was a 2 seater sports car... your hooped
but if you have a mini van
then ur laughin for the next few days!

[Lo)2enz0]

i hate mini vans

lol

[Mitsu3000gt]

Originally posted by bspot


Wait for the redline edition.

Also compare it to a Miata then come back. Thanks.

Unless your comparing it only to the redline edition (which will cost way more than a miata, here is how the 2 stack up:

I have included road and track's miata vs solstice and miata vs sky data:

Road and track got the miata 1/4 mile in 15.3, which is substantially better than 15.5 it got with the solstice, and still better than the sky. The sky seems to be better competition for the miata but looks like has a little ways to go still.

Not trying argue, not trying to be a fanboy as I personally dislike both these cars ALOT. Forget who makes them, forget fit and finish, but in every magazine I've read the Miata beat the solstice/sky in the comparison test between the two (not necessarily in every performance category, and not necessarily in every magazine, just the one's I've read). I agree the sky redline will likely get good reviews and be good performance for the dollar.

In my opinion, I am however dissapointed that they never put more HP in the miata, and I am also dissapointed that GM started with a clean slate and chose not to outperform he miata in every category, which in my opinion they had no excuse not to do being its only competition.

Mazda MX-5 Miata Pontiac Solstice
List price $24,435 $19,420

Price as tested $25,495 $23,190

Curb weight 2490 lb 2900 lb

Engine, transmission 2.0L I-4, 6-speed manual 2.4L I-4, 5-speed manual

Horsepower, bhp @ rpm 170 @ 6700 177 @ 6600

0–60 mph 6.9 sec 7.0 sec

0–100 mph 20.2 sec 21.6 sec

0–1320 ft (1/4 mile) 15.3 sec @ 90.2 mph 15.5 sec @ 88.3 mph

Top speed 130 mph* 123 mph*

Braking from 60 mph 116 ft 129 ft

Braking from 80 mph 208 ft 226 ft

Skidpad 0.89g 0.85g

Slalom 68.5 mph 67.0 mph

Fuel mileage 21.7 mpg 19.5 mpg

The miata beats the solstice in every category except price (only 2G's difference)



2007 Saturn Sky 2006 Mazda MX-5 Miata
Current list price $23,115 $20,435
Engine dohc 2.4-liter I-4 dohc 2.0-liter I-4
Horsepower 177 bhp @ 6600 rpm 170 bhp @ 6700 rpm
Torque 166 lb-ft @ 4800 rpm 140 lb-ft @ 5000 rpm
Transmission 5-speed manual 6-speed manual
0-60 mph 7.2 sec 7.0 sec
Braking 0-60 mph 132 ft 112 ft
Lateral accel
(200-ft skidpad) 0.91g 0.86g
Speed thru 700-ft slalom 67.8 mph 67.7 mph
Fuel mileage est 20/28 mpg 24/30 mpg
Length 161.1 in. 157.1 in.
Width 71.4 in. 67.7 in.
Height 50.1 in. 49.0 in.
Wheelbase 95.1 in. 91.7 in.
Track, f/r 60.7 in./61.4 in. 58.7 in./58.9 in.
Curb weight 2975 lb 2510 lb

The sky fares way better against the miata than the solstice. The sky is heavier than the miata, slower, more expensive, and doesn't brake nearly as good but it does seem to outhandle the miata.

Here is Car and Driver's data on the sky as well:

/D TEST RESULTS
ACCELERATION: Seconds
Zero to 30 mph: 2.5
40 mph: 3.9
50 mph: 5.5
60 mph: 7.3
70 mph: 10.2
80 mph: 13.1
90 mph: 16.6
100 mph: 21.9
Street start, 5–60 mph: 7.7
Top-gear acceleration, 30–50 mph: 16.7
50–70 mph: 12.4
Standing 1/4-mile: 15.9 sec @ 88 mph
Top speed (drag limited, C/D est): 123 mph


BRAKING
70–0 mph @ impending lockup: 174 ft


HANDLING
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.86 g
Understeer: minimal moderate excessive


FUEL ECONOMY
EPA city driving: 20 mpg
EPA highway driving: 28 mpg
C/D-observed: 16 mpg




Mark

[shakalaka]

I have no idea what this car is, need to see some pics!

[bspot]

Re: Shoulder checking.

All you should have to do is look out your front windows, not crank your head and look through the back. Adjust your mirrors properly ;)

If a car isn't poking its head beside my side windows and its not in my mirrors, its not there. If you've ever driven a delivery truck or anything without rearward vision you have to learn how to do this, its much easier on the neck.

[Thaco]

http://www.tms12.com/Claimer/1/images/IMG_8040.jpg

[Graham_A_M]

Their sold out for two years, 6 months I wish!! I even called Saturn dealerships in Regina and Saskatoon, their sold out at least a year and a half also. I'm REALLY thinking about buying a Sky on ebay, and just importing it. I dont want to wait two years, I'll be 25 by the time I get the car I bought today. :thumbsdow

Akagi, the Sky supposedly performs way better.

Mistsu3000GT, Road & track magazine picked the Sky over the Miata in total.

[nich148_9]

You know what? I don't care whether the Sky is slower than the Miata. I think (in most cases), the difference is negligable. I think that the Sky (and Solstice) is definitely a step in the right direction for GM. It's not going to take over the small roadster market, no. But it'll take some of the Miata's sales. That's good.

[toyboy88]

there was a guy in the herald today selling an 07 sky for $46000!!!:nut:

[Ekliptix]

Originally posted by Mitsu3000gt
Road and track got the miata 1/4 mile in 15.3, which is substantially better than 15.5 it got with the solstice, and still better than the sky. The sky seems to be better competition for the miata but looks like has a little ways to go still.
Mark

WTF?? 15.3 is substantially better then 15.5??
You and T78Supra1 better get together and compare your 15 second timeslips again before you can say "OMG I beats you so bad homie, Dayum kid!".

Also, most people agree that the miata's looks are more suited to females.

[Toms-SC]

Originally posted by Ekliptix


Also, most people agree that the miata's looks are more suited to females.

:rofl:

[nich148_9]

Originally posted by Toms-SC


:rofl:

I'm with ya there.

[toyboy88]

Originally posted by Ekliptix

Also, most people agree that the miata's looks are more suited to females.

agreed.

[jaysas_63]

Originally posted by Ekliptix



Also, most people agree that the miata's looks are more suited to females.

true but the sky isn't exactly dripping of testosterone....

[snoop101]

I find both cars market more towards men. Only in the last 2-3 years have mazda pushed towards building a male audience. If a guy wants to go small but look good he needs to go witha Z3 or a Boxster and really you can find 98-99 for good prices now a days and they kill all three cars. even the Z3 1.9l in 96 with a supercharger would kill these cars (granted you were flying threw corners, like you should be doing :thumbsup: )

[SWX]

Originally posted by rage2
My neighbor has one, I keep seeing it drive by my house. Looks really nice. Mallet or something has a LS2 kit for it already... 400hp!
They had one at powerramma this year it's about 20k plus the car of course. but 12.8 1/4.

[SWX]

and this one

[ACX]

If we want to magazine Racw why not go with Grassroots motorsports competition comparo of the miata and the solstice from February 2006.

http://www.shadowword.com/grm.pdf

Big file 8 megs. If the link goes down let me know I can rehost it. Good read.

they seem to be pretty impressed with the solstice on track.

If we want to take bets on a mid 15 second cripple fight drag race then I guess that is a different thing.

Refreshing to see some unique new cars available. this of course takes nothing away from the Miata. They did a good job on the redesign as evidenced by its US sales numbers being up 172% year to date, which helps makeup for the RX8s continued Shartriffic sales.

[iceburns288]

Bench racing 4thewin.

By the way, if your mirrors are properly adjusted, you don't need to shoulder check. I didn't believe it either until I fixed them, and trust me, it's much, much better. Zero shoulder checking required unless I'm backing out of a parking space.:thumbsup:

[gp36912]

Originally posted by Akagi


A TRUE CAR FAN, ADMIRES ALL VEHICLES and sees the beauty in all things with an engine..





LOVE ALLL CARS for what they are

Even mini vans!



hahaha minivan races ftw :D i loved that video lol.
i usually don't agree with akagi because he usualy give my brain a good workout :D but i have to agree with him today lol. I personally am a car fanatic :D gimme anything with an engine and i'll drive it. be it mercedes, jag, ford, dodge, renault(i wish), or even saab. as long as its got an engine and wheels i'm in :D even a 5ton truck (driven one, was fun. hard to see and you can smack something and not feel it :D)

as long as the car has potential in it i'd take a look at it.




o man someone has to set up a minivan race :D get a whole bunch of people and find cheap minivans and race them down at racecity :D ahahahahaha

[The Cosworth]

Originally posted by nich148_9
You know what? I don't care whether the Sky is slower than the Miata. I think (in most cases), the difference is negligable. I think that the Sky (and Solstice) is definitely a step in the right direction for GM. It's not going to take over the small roadster market, no. But it'll take some of the Miata's sales. That's good.

I agree because it made me actually want a saturn, you cant always run a car full out, the SKY kills the MIATA in looks, I think the new miata's are even worse now.

DAMN YOU GM! :D

:thumbsup: on the sky

[ACX]

Speaking of all this..

this just in, the saturn sky topped the most researched vehicle on gaywheels.com, while the MX-5 was in at number 10.

Just thought it was sort of amusing. Especially since my Forester didn't figure into the equation by some stroke of luck.

:rofl:

http://www.autoblog.com/2006/07/11/gaywheels-com-announced-top-10-most-researched-vehicles/

1. Saturn Sky
2. Toyota Yaris
3. Dodge Caliber
4. Volkswagen Jetta
5. Toyota Camry
6. Audi A3
7. Toyota Prius
8. Saab 9-3 (sedan and convertible)
9. Pontiac G6 (sedan, coupe and convertible)
10. Mazda MX-5

[Stoppie]

WTF?? 15.3 is substantially better then 15.5??

i agree its not a shit whipped beating... but you know yourself that if your shave .2 seconds off your time... its alot.