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eggy
06-27-2006, 07:41 AM
Hey guys... I'm gonna be coming back to Toronto from Kyoto in about 2 months, and I'll be driving home in an Evo IX MR.

Please don't ask how I am able to do this... my circumstances are just kind of special...

I was just wondering if you guys think the stock BBS wheels that come on Evo MRs would sell well in Toronto? I'm thinking of selling this wheels come next spring and I was guessing people driving Lancers would really like to sport these bad boys. They are 17" BBS forged wheels that weigh just 17 pounds each.

http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/machevo_1901_4305096

They retail for over 850 USD. So I was wondering if you guys think I would be able to get about 2000 CAD for a set?

Would any of you be willing to purchase these wheels for a price around there? Again they are not for sale ATM... I am just trying to see how easy/tough it would be to sell them when the time comes :)

I want a set of Advan RGII :)

Anyway, I look forward to meeting a lot of you new people!

-Aaron

jralli
06-27-2006, 08:13 AM
Apparently, the wheels rub really hard on Ralliarts and won't actually even fit the bolt pattern of the OZs or base models. So I guess the long 'n' short of it is they just won't fit us non-Evo Lancers. Too bad though, 'cause they're sexy wheels.

Mitsu3000gt
06-27-2006, 08:13 AM
I am not sure of the availability of those rims as I know very little about them, but I do know that $850US is only $935 Canadian and if they can be had for 850 US, nobody will buy them for $2000. If they are near impossible to get, or $850 PER RIM, then thats another story.

Mark

eggy
06-27-2006, 08:15 AM
jralli: That is really a shame :( I had no idea that regular lancers had so much trouble sporting them.... They are sexy wheels though. I am just a big fan of a white car with gold rims :D

Mark: They retail for 850 per rim :) They are very light, very high quality rims.

-Aaron

Bill Cosby
06-27-2006, 08:26 AM
yo eggs

you got any pics of your Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX MR???

eggy
06-27-2006, 08:32 AM
Originally posted by Bill Cosby
yo eggs

you got any pics of your Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX MR???

Hey bro,

sorry, I guess it's kind of wishful thinking atm since I'm finishing up a year of studying in Japan.

I arrive in California on August 5, and I will be off to purchase a Wicked White Evolution IX MR within the next day :)

However, by the time I'm home I will have changed a few things like taillights, so it should look something like this.

http://www.hmaindustries.com/images/6-4-06_03.jpg

no lip or drop yet though :)

and that's actually an VIII but you get the picture~

-Aaron

khtm
06-27-2006, 09:38 AM
Why are people from Toronto on this forum?

Mr_ET
06-27-2006, 09:39 AM
I don't know and might not be the best place to ask if evo wheels will sell in toronto because 95% of the people here are from alberta and this is a calgary forum..

but nice car anyways!

eggy
06-27-2006, 07:37 PM
oh serious!? I just thought it was a Canadian forum >.<

Oh well I'm guessing the demand would be the same considering the rarity of Evos/ Evo parts in Canada :)

Hm...... time to search for a Toronto forum :D

Thanks for the heads up guys hahaha ~

BerserkerCatSplat
06-27-2006, 07:47 PM
Originally posted by khtm
Why are people from Toronto on this forum?


... I'm going to throw out a wild guess here and say it's because this is a site on the Internet that's accessible by pretty much anyone with a Web connection.

It's not like we discourage non-Calgarian members.

(Unless they're Leafs fans, that is. ;) )

Zephyr
06-27-2006, 07:48 PM
how are u going to buy a car in cali when ur not even a california resident?

JAYMEZ
06-27-2006, 08:03 PM
Originally posted by khtm
Why are people from Toronto on this forum?



Originally posted by Mr_ET
I don't know and might not be the best place to ask if evo wheels will sell in toronto because 95% of the people here are from alberta and this is a calgary forum..

but nice car anyways!


What the hell? This is not just a calgary forum , there is people from all over North America and England on here. Everyone is invited.

SC2
06-27-2006, 08:07 PM
Didnt think you could get EVO8 cars in Canada, nor parts.

xrayvsn
06-27-2006, 08:13 PM
There is a loophole that allows you to import a car from the US regardless of its admissability if you have worked/studied in the other country for at least 1 year.

Slashin_
06-27-2006, 08:16 PM
so if iwork in japan for an yea i can bring back an itr?

toyboy88
06-27-2006, 08:37 PM
Originally posted by xrayvsn
There is a loophole that allows you to import a car from the US regardless of its admiissability if you have worked/studied in the other country for at least 1 year.

hmmm...never knew about that actually, so do you mean work/live in the country the car was made in(ie. japan) or country the car is bought from(ie. US in this case)?

anybody have a link to more "official" details of this explanation? thanks

DeeK
06-27-2006, 10:19 PM
Originally posted by SC2
Didnt think you could get EVO8 cars in Canada, nor parts.
There is already 3 in calgary.

AzN'SKillZ
06-28-2006, 12:06 AM
http://forums.beyond.ca/showthread.php?s=&threadid=133178&highlight=evo

heres another loop hole

xrayvsn
06-28-2006, 01:16 AM
Originally posted by toyboy88


hmmm...never knew about that actually, so do you mean work/live in the country the car was made in(ie. japan) or country the car is bought from(ie. US in this case)?

anybody have a link to more &quot;official&quot; details of this explanation? thanks

http://cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/E/pub/cp/rc4140/rc4140-05e.pdf - From pages 7 and 8 - the exemptions for entering into the RIV program includes if you were not residing in Canada but purchased a vehicle while away. An Evo IX MR is not certified to meet Canadian Motor Vehicle Safety Standards, but it does meet the US Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards.

Exceptions
Taking into account both CBSA and Transport
Canada requirements, in most cases, you can import a
vehicle into Canada on the condition that the vehicle
is designed, manufactured, tested, and certified to
meet the Canada Motor Vehicle Safety Standards
or the United States Federal Motor Vehicle Safety
Standards, bears a statement of compliance label
affixed by the original manufacturer, has not been
altered, and the certification from the original
manufacturer is still on the vehicle, in any of the
following situations:
Used or second-hand vehicle less than 15 years
old or a bus manufactured on or after
January 1, 1971.
■ You are importing a vehicle that is manufactured
in the current calendar year.
■ You are importing a vehicle for your personal use
and you are the person who bought it new. We
do not consider demonstration vehicles or used
vehicles that you purchased from a car rental
agency to be new.
■ You are importing a vehicle after its year of
manufacture if you received it as a gift from a
friend or a relative abroad. The CBSA will require
a signed document between both parties certifying
that it was a gift (no money changed hands, and
no other valuable considerations were involved),
the estimated value and a full description of the
vehicle (make, model, Vehicle Identification
Number and colour).
■ You are importing a replacement vehicle if your
privately owned vehicle was damaged beyond
repair while you are travelling abroad. To prove
the extent of the damage, you will have to submit
a statement from the insurance company and a
copy of the police report.
■ If you lived in another country for at least 12
consecutive months immediately before you
returned to Canada. Refer also to the brochure
called Moving Back to Canada.
■ If you were out of Canada for a minimum period
of six continuous months, and you owned the
vehicle for at least six months during the same
period before you returned to Canada. Refer also
to the brochure called Moving Back to Canada.
■ If you are a first time settler to Canada and you
owned, possessed and used your vehicle before
your arrival in Canada. Refer also to the brochure
called Settling in Canada.
Other exemptions may apply as outlined in
Memorandum D9-1-11, Importation of Used or
Second-Hand Motor Vehicles.
New vehicle
You are importing a vehicle that is purchased
new or obtained new in a foreign country
(e.g., a manufacturer’s foreign delivery program).
Note
Before importing your vehicle, you must contact
both the CBSA and Transport Canada at the
telephone numbers or addresses on page 13 to
determine if the vehicle meets import requirements.

eggy
06-28-2006, 02:05 AM
Hey guys just to give you a bit of a background...

I am a Canadian and American citizen, and I have residences in both countries, 2 passports, 2 licenses.

I will buy the car in Cali and get insured in Cali as a student studying in Toronto for 1 year. Then I will just drive up to Toronto :)

It will have American plates, American Insurance, I have an American license. I'm not importing it, I'm just driving it in Toronto for my last year of university :)

After that I will head to Cali for graduate school!~

-Aaron

Basically if you don't have this situation you are out of luck as far as I know.


One last thing... I stres I am NOT IMPORTING this car. I will be driving it as an American resident in Canada for the year. When it comes to Importing that's an entirely different story!

Zephyr
06-28-2006, 02:22 AM
Originally posted by eggy
Hey guys just to give you a bit of a background...

I am a Canadian and American citizen, and I have residences in both countries, 2 passports, 2 licenses.

I will buy the car in Cali and get insured in Cali as a student studying in Toronto for 1 year. Then I will just drive up to Toronto :)

It will have American plates, American Insurance, I have an American license. I'm not importing it, I'm just driving it in Toronto for my last year of university :)

After that I will head to Cali for graduate school!~

-Aaron

Basically if you don't have this situation you are out of luck as far as I know.


One last thing... I stres I am NOT IMPORTING this car. I will be driving it as an American resident in Canada for the year. When it comes to Importing that's an entirely different story!

huntington mitsubishi has a HUGE sale on evo XI right now

eggy
06-28-2006, 08:40 AM
For some reason I can't quote you... but...

Yes you are very right, Huntington as well as South Coast and one other dealership have CRAZY deals on Evos, which is why I'm buying one :)

The deals are just too amazing to pass up! 32000 for an MR!!!! Wow!!!!!!!!!

Zephyr
06-28-2006, 10:48 AM
Originally posted by eggy
For some reason I can't quote you... but...

Yes you are very right, Huntington as well as South Coast and one other dealership have CRAZY deals on Evos, which is why I'm buying one :)

The deals are just too amazing to pass up! 32000 for an MR!!!! Wow!!!!!!!!!

that's the only two good dealers too, stay away from the rest. i was going to get a MR as well, but then i got tired of having to go to only one dealership and the waiting list was huge...

shakalaka
06-28-2006, 10:55 AM
Originally posted by xrayvsn


http://cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/E/pub/cp/rc4140/rc4140-05e.pdf - From pages 7 and 8 - the exemptions for entering into the RIV program includes if you were not residing in Canada but purchased a vehicle while away. An Evo IX MR is not certified to meet Canadian Motor Vehicle Safety Standards, but it does meet the US Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards.

Exceptions
Taking into account both CBSA and Transport
Canada requirements, in most cases, you can import a
vehicle into Canada on the condition that the vehicle
is designed, manufactured, tested, and certified to
meet the Canada Motor Vehicle Safety Standards
or the United States Federal Motor Vehicle Safety
Standards, bears a statement of compliance label
affixed by the original manufacturer, has not been
altered, and the certification from the original
manufacturer is still on the vehicle, in any of the
following situations:
Used or second-hand vehicle less than 15 years
old or a bus manufactured on or after
January 1, 1971.
&amp;#9632; You are importing a vehicle that is manufactured
in the current calendar year.
&amp;#9632; You are importing a vehicle for your personal use
and you are the person who bought it new. We
do not consider demonstration vehicles or used
vehicles that you purchased from a car rental
agency to be new.
&amp;#9632; You are importing a vehicle after its year of
manufacture if you received it as a gift from a
friend or a relative abroad. The CBSA will require
a signed document between both parties certifying
that it was a gift (no money changed hands, and
no other valuable considerations were involved),
the estimated value and a full description of the
vehicle (make, model, Vehicle Identification
Number and colour).
&amp;#9632; You are importing a replacement vehicle if your
privately owned vehicle was damaged beyond
repair while you are travelling abroad. To prove
the extent of the damage, you will have to submit
a statement from the insurance company and a
copy of the police report.
&amp;#9632; If you lived in another country for at least 12
consecutive months immediately before you
returned to Canada. Refer also to the brochure
called Moving Back to Canada.
&amp;#9632; If you were out of Canada for a minimum period
of six continuous months, and you owned the
vehicle for at least six months during the same
period before you returned to Canada. Refer also
to the brochure called Moving Back to Canada.
&amp;#9632; If you are a first time settler to Canada and you
owned, possessed and used your vehicle before
your arrival in Canada. Refer also to the brochure
called Settling in Canada.
Other exemptions may apply as outlined in
Memorandum D9-1-11, Importation of Used or
Second-Hand Motor Vehicles.
New vehicle
You are importing a vehicle that is purchased
new or obtained new in a foreign country
(e.g., a manufacturer’s foreign delivery program).
Note
Before importing your vehicle, you must contact
both the CBSA and Transport Canada at the
telephone numbers or addresses on page 13 to
determine if the vehicle meets import requirements.

Wow...that is really cool and kinda good too know. I am studying in Scotland right and gonna be for like total of 3-4 years, so in the end I can import a car of my choice from down there and bring it into Canada?

O shite...just read it more in details and it says the vehicle has to be new. I was thinking about newer Skylines, but they are expensive as hell brand new.

xrayvsn
06-28-2006, 04:28 PM
Originally posted by shakalaka


Wow...that is really cool and kinda good too know. I am studying in Scotland right and gonna be for like total of 3-4 years, so in the end I can import a car of my choice from down there and bring it into Canada?

O shite...just read it more in details and it says the vehicle has to be new. I was thinking about newer Skylines, but they are expensive as hell brand new.

They have separate rules for cars purchased outside of North America, as I believe the rules that I quoted applied to people coming into Canada from the US, either as returning Canadian citizens, or US citizens coming to live/work/study permanently in Canada. I am not sure about how a vehicle purchased in Europe would work, since they do not have the necessary North American safety certification.

I believe that the rules I posted apply to any vehicle, either new or those that have been manufactured less than 15 years ago (ie. used or bought new). You could therefore bring in an Evo VIII from the US under the loophole.

I know a colleague who is training in the US for 18 months. I am very tempted to tell them to pick up an Evo IX MR and bring it home when they return. I am not sure about the legalities of selling this vehicle to another person, however. If I decide that I want to get them to do this for me, I will have to call Transport Canada and the Border Service to find out if selling a car imported in this manner is legal.

eggy
06-28-2006, 08:00 PM
Originally posted by Zephyr


that's the only two good dealers too, stay away from the rest. i was going to get a MR as well, but then i got tired of having to go to only one dealership and the waiting list was huge...

Serious?? :(

That's too bad man cause right now South Coast is overloaded with them!

Well an IS350 is an amazing car too. Great choice. They've really grown on me ~

arian_ma
06-28-2006, 10:25 PM
Ok I read that and it didn't answer my question:
What if someone in your immediate family is a US resident, but is coming back to live in Canada. Say they live here for a year, could he/she still go down to the States and drive a car back as a "returning Canadian Citizen"?
Also, did I misread again or does the vehicle have to be brand spankin' new? Say you want to import a 2000 under the above conditions, would that work?

Edit again: What if you want to sell the car? Would you have to drive back down to California and sell it there? I guess what I am asking is would the car be registered and Insured in California with California plates on it? And if so, would someone with an Alberta driver's licence be able to drive this?

All these rules are so confusing.

xrayvsn
06-28-2006, 10:38 PM
Damn, it looks like they may not allow this after all:

http://cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/E/pub/cp/rc4105/rc4105-e.html

Got this from the "Moving Back to Canada" brochure they refer to.


Vehicles manufactured to meet United States safety standards do not comply with Canadian safety standards. As the importer, you are responsible for determining whether your vehicle complies with Canadian standards, or whether it can be modified to meet these standards after you import it. You cannot import vehicles that cannot be modified to meet Canadian standards.