Stampede... where do the profits go? [Archive] - Beyond.ca - Car Forums

Toma

07-14-2006, 09:51 AM

I hate the Stampede, and have always been curious....

Who gets all the money, profits, gate admissions....

Being the communist that I am, I had always "hoped" the money went back to the City, its overtaxed and inconvenienced citizens...

But the more I think about it.... I somehoe doubt it.

Anyone know the skinny??

buh_buh

07-14-2006, 09:52 AM

the guys that have small hands and smell like cabbage?

asuth077

07-14-2006, 09:59 AM

The Calgary Stampede is a business.

Thats how they afford all that land.

EDIT*wrong link*

http://corporate.calgarystampede.com/corp_info/

Toms-SC

07-14-2006, 11:05 AM

Originally posted by Toma
I hate the Stampede, and have always been curious....

x2

Idratherbsidewayz

07-14-2006, 11:56 AM

I can't tell you where the profits go, but I can tell you this. Last night I was in the Bank in the Grandstand and they were doing their first money frop from the bars in the building (they usually do 2 a night). This was at about 830. The amount was $69,000. Thats no more than 10 bars, and only a few hours. They make a killing.

As it is a business, profits go back into the Stampede and probably also into the bonuses of Board members. Although you have to remember that the Stampede brings mucho tourists, which is always good for the smaller businesses in Calgary. It's probably the biggest thing in this city, and it puts us on the international map.

If you look at a bar like Cowboy's which is charging $50 to get in and buy overpriced drinks, you become less disgusted by the CS. We all have fun during Stampede, who cares if they make money off of it. Its a capitalistic world after all...

Toma

07-14-2006, 12:21 PM

I was in the bar industry for 15+ years....

I can tell you only a very select few businesses/bars/restaurants make any money.... generally, most other business drops off.... inlcuding a lot of retail, bars further from the "action" etc...

If its completely private, they have no right calling it the "Calgary Stampede"... they should rename it, just like they did to the saddle dome.

Did I mention I hate the fucking Stampede. :nut:

Toma

07-14-2006, 12:27 PM

Plus.... last thing I want is Vickers making more money... :nut:

ianmcc

07-14-2006, 01:32 PM

Originally posted by buh_buh
the guys that have small hands and smell like cabbage?
I hate carneys!!!!

Pihsiak

07-14-2006, 01:45 PM

Money goes towards buying up all the land in Vic park so they can expand?

where will the dollar hookers go? FL?

l8braker

07-14-2006, 01:50 PM

Originally posted by Toma
Plus.... last thing I want is Vickers making more money... :nut:

Cowboys and Ceili's are being torn down for office buildings next year (so i heard).

Props to Vickers. Anyone who can charge 50 a head to get into that dump deserves credit. It's always lined up with trash completely around the next block.

+3 to hating it.

l8braker

07-14-2006, 01:54 PM

Another thing, they did raise the rodeo prize money big time... The people who are on the Stampede board have no money problems that's for sure. It's an institution.

Xtrema

07-14-2006, 02:01 PM

Originally posted by Toma
I hate the Stampede, and have always been curious....

Who gets all the money, profits, gate admissions....

Being the communist that I am, I had always "hoped" the money went back to the City, its overtaxed and inconvenienced citizens...

But the more I think about it.... I somehoe doubt it.

Anyone know the skinny??

I think you need to move to Russia.

#1 Stampede is Heritage, something that make us different, unique. Otherwise, we'll just be another Edmonton.

#2 It brings in profits just like any Sports teams.

#3 I hardly worked all week, a big bonus.

QuasarCav

07-14-2006, 02:04 PM

Originally posted by Xtrema

I think you need to move to Russia.

#1 Stampede is Heritage, something that make us different, unique. Otherwise, we'll just be another Edmonton.

Klondike days motherfucker.

Altezza

07-14-2006, 02:14 PM

The profits fund terrorist activities!!!

Xtrema

07-14-2006, 02:15 PM

Originally posted by QuasarCav

Klondike days motherfucker.

That's just a cheap knockoff.

irs

07-14-2006, 02:18 PM

I think tha mayor probable has his hands in the pot some how. Same with the City. There all greedy. :thumbsdow

kertejud

07-14-2006, 05:30 PM

Originally posted by Toma
If its completely private, they have no right calling it the "Calgary Stampede"... they should rename it, just like they did to the saddle dome.

Why not?

And what name change to the Saddledome are you referring to? From Olympic Saddledome to 'Canadian Airlines Saddledome' to Pengrowth Saddledome? They did that for money (and changed again because Canadian Airlines no longer exists).

kertejud

07-14-2006, 05:31 PM

Originally posted by Toma

Being the communist that I am, I had always "hoped" the money went back to the City, its overtaxed and inconvenienced citizens...

A communist complaining about unfair money distibution, how joyfuly ironic.

bigboom

07-14-2006, 05:35 PM

Originally posted by Toma

If its completely private, they have no right calling it the "Calgary Stampede"... they should rename it, just like they did to the saddle dome.

Did I mention I hate the fucking Stampede. :nut:

what about the calgary flames should they be renamed too because they arent owned by the city of calgary?

barbarian

07-14-2006, 07:46 PM

Originally posted by bigboom

what about the calgary flames should they be renamed too because they arent owned by the city of calgary?
They ought to be, at least partly, from the public money that goes to rebuild the saddledome every 10 years, and the new arena that will be built for them within the next 10.

kertejud

07-14-2006, 07:53 PM

Originally posted by barbarian

They ought to be, at least partly, from the public money that goes to rebuild the saddledome every 10 years, and the new arena that will be built for them within the next 10.

The Flames do not own the Saddledome.

Xtrema

07-14-2006, 08:53 PM

wainr

07-14-2006, 09:15 PM

Wow what a suprise... Toma hates the Stampede... :rolleyes:

Move to N.Korea ffs and stfu

Its the history and heritage of our city and the west.. why the fuck do you live here if you hold so much contempt for everything western?

I am sure the thousands of tourists who flock to Calgary for Stampede spending hundreds of millions of dollars is a real burden on our city..

wainr

07-14-2006, 09:17 PM

Originally posted by QuasarCav

Klondike days motherfucker.

Not anymore.

googe

07-14-2006, 10:01 PM

stampede sucks :thumbsup:

Alex_FORD

07-15-2006, 08:57 PM

Originally posted by Toma
I was in the bar industry for 15+ years....

Norm!!!

is that you??!?!?!?

We lost track of you, after cheers was taken off the air!!!!

dino_martini

07-15-2006, 09:02 PM

Originally posted by QuasarCav

Klondike days motherfucker.

Not called Klondike days anymore.

colinderksen

07-16-2006, 03:57 PM

I enjoyed Stampede.....

umreeka91

07-17-2006, 11:15 AM

Originally posted by colinderksen
I enjoyed Stampede.....

i enjoyed ur mom :D

sexualbanana

07-17-2006, 11:30 AM

There are huge costs associated with organizing an event like the Calgary Stampede.

- The organizing staff and it's executives need to get paid.
- The cost of bringing in the vendors and Conklin.
- There is a huge insurance risk they pay for.
- Paying the entertainers. Performers like Nelly Furtado, Our Lady Peace, Theory of a Deadman, and Kenny Chesney don't come cheap.
- Paying for labourers during set up and take down.
- Organizing the parade.
- Maintaining the grounds, casino, racetrack, and stadium for the other 51 weeks of the year.
- Joint projects with Tourism Calgary to promote the city and the Stampede.

The bottom line is that yes, the Stampede pulls in a lot of money, but a lot of money also goes out. Just like any other business.

bigboom

07-17-2006, 12:24 PM

Originally posted by sexualbanana
There are huge costs associated with organizing an event like the Calgary Stampede.

- The organizing staff and it's executives need to get paid.
- The cost of bringing in the vendors and Conklin.
- There is a huge insurance risk they pay for.
- Paying the entertainers. Performers like Nelly Furtado, Our Lady Peace, Theory of a Deadman, and Kenny Chesney don't come cheap.
- Paying for labourers during set up and take down.
- Organizing the parade.
- Maintaining the grounds, casino, racetrack, and stadium for the other 51 weeks of the year.
- Joint projects with Tourism Calgary to promote the city and the Stampede.

The bottom line is that yes, the Stampede pulls in a lot of money, but a lot of money also goes out. Just like any other business.

dont forget the $1.6mm in rodeo winnings...

Tech2

07-17-2006, 01:36 PM

I thought I heard something about stampede bringing in over a million tourists to calgary... they've gotta be leaving a bunch of money in hotels if nothing else.

kertejud

07-17-2006, 02:33 PM

Originally posted by bigboom

dont forget the $1.6mm in rodeo winnings...

And the running and maintaining of the Stampede Ranch.

benyl

07-17-2006, 03:51 PM

Originally posted by sexualbanana

- Paying the entertainers. Performers like Nelly Furtado, Our Lady Peace, Theory of a Deadman, and Kenny Chesney don't come cheap.

Don't forget Gino Vanelli!!!! hahhahahaha he was there the day I went this year.

I like mini donuts...

SOAB

07-17-2006, 06:03 PM

what a stupid thread... heaven forbid a BUSINESS makes money... :rolleyes:

asuth077

07-17-2006, 06:21 PM

Kenny Chesney wasn't paid by the Stampede, it was a concert people paid to go to at the 'dome I believe.

Supa Dexta

07-17-2006, 08:21 PM

Some facts and figures.. off my head..

The grandstands alone brought in over 800k (if I remember right) in beer sales last yr, and sold the equivalent of 600 000 cases of beer or something crazy, just in the grandstands!.. But the system they use for that cost them some money, not near that but a bit.. The amount of booze that goes thru that place is unreal.. The taps hardly close at some points, they just keep putting new cups under it.. Coyotes, 10 bux to get into the fenced off area over 10k people came thru in one day last yr, of course they didn't all pay, but thats just admission, not any of the drinks.. Ceilis, they can sell 60 kegs in one night, one keg is 120 pints, at what 5.75, 6? a pint? thats 40k in one night off beer sales alone.. These aren't this years numbers, just things I have heard in th past.. and then theres cowboys, you've seen the tent there, :nut:
Stampede also pays staff all year, some of whom I'm not sure why they keep around, as the times I stop in around there I never see them doing anything.. And where do they get all the vlt's and tables for the big 4? they must be rented from somewares, they were all leaving on trucks today....

wainr

07-17-2006, 08:41 PM

Originally posted by SOAB
what a stupid thread... heaven forbid a BUSINESS makes money... :rolleyes:

In Tomas vision of communist Canada this would not be allowed.

l8braker

07-17-2006, 08:45 PM

i heard cowboys pulled in 1M every night? or it could be all penny lane? serious cash :bigpimp:

Redlyne_mr2

07-17-2006, 10:15 PM

Originally posted by QuasarCav

Klondike days motherfucker.
It's called Capital X now...so much for tradition

Lex350

07-17-2006, 10:37 PM

Originally posted by Toma
I was in the bar industry for 15+ years....

I can tell you only a very select few businesses/bars/restaurants make any money.... generally, most other business drops off.... inlcuding a lot of retail, bars further from the "action" etc...

If its completely private, they have no right calling it the "Calgary Stampede"... they should rename it, just like they did to the saddle dome.

Did I mention I hate the fucking Stampede. :nut:

wow...you have issues.:drama:

Charon

07-19-2006, 09:13 PM

You think Toma would do some research instead of stirring the pot with his communisim......:D

Overall, our annual Park visitors spend an estimated $345 million in Alberta, including $300 million spent in Calgary alone - the bulk of which supports local hotels, restaurants, retail shops and other businesses.

And the stampede corporation is a registered non-profit organization.

Smoke that in your pipe a little. Perhaps we should just shut'er down and leave the $345 million in other places.

http://corporate.calgarystampede.com/client/media/23/24/year_round_2003_economic_impact.pdf

Charon

07-19-2006, 09:14 PM

Originally posted by rotten42

wow...you have issues.:drama:

His parents never hugged him as a child.

Toma

07-19-2006, 10:54 PM

Originally posted by rotten42

wow...you have issues.:drama:
.... and I have an 8" cock..... however, neither fact will affect you in anyway, so thanks for your useless analysis, and from now on, please reserve your comments for bedside conversation with your fudge packing buddies.

:poosie:

Charon

07-19-2006, 11:11 PM

^^^ Wow you do an amazing job of clarifying and substantiating other people's comments.

Its no wonder everyone thinks your a nutjob with a retort like that.

wainr

07-19-2006, 11:53 PM

Originally posted by Toma

.... and I have an 8" cock..... however, neither fact will affect you in anyway, so thanks for your useless analysis, and from now on, please reserve your comments for bedside conversation with your fudge packing buddies.

:poosie:

He's a homophobe too...why am I not suprised.. :rofl: