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Team_Mclaren
04-13-2003, 06:39 PM
Im gonna get my first car in a few months. Im thinking about the Mazda MX-3. I know that there arent too many after-market support but their pretty nice cars. What u guys think????

ramminghard
04-13-2003, 06:41 PM
i think its more of a girls car

GTS Jeff
04-13-2003, 06:51 PM
i cant think of any reason to buy one..

kaput
04-13-2003, 07:09 PM
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air_mikey
04-13-2003, 07:59 PM
i dont really like mx3's but if you like it then you should get it. imo i dont think they look that nice.

ninspeed
04-13-2003, 08:24 PM
they are ok cars.. yourbest bet is just to drive it your self and see how you like it. A freind of mine has a blue one with a few mods... its fun to drive once in awhile... he likes it though...

three.eighteen.
04-13-2003, 08:24 PM
looks like a frog, and about as slow...i hear they handle pretty good though

Team_Mclaren
04-13-2003, 09:23 PM
Well, I've done tons of homework myself and notice that there are a few problems with them, just that i dont really want a civic and trying to be a little different. As far as speed and look goes. There are a few body kits out their thats pretty nice. And Im planning to swap a new j-spec in around a year if i get it. But still, tell me what u guys think. or give me other suggestion. Im looking at around 91-93. thx

STI-Guy
04-13-2003, 09:26 PM
Don't mod it if it's your first car. Please.

And if you feel you really have the chops to build an engine, don't rice it up (wings, stickers, ghey body kits, ect.)

kaput
04-13-2003, 09:36 PM
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88CRX
04-13-2003, 09:40 PM
just buy a crx....

5.9 R/T
04-13-2003, 09:44 PM
Originally posted by 88CRX
just buy a crx.... Yet another car that is consistantly priced much more then it is worth.

Glowrider
04-13-2003, 09:47 PM
I think the MX-3 is kind of gay, that's just my opinion though. Some of you may see it as really bad ass.

88CRX
04-13-2003, 09:50 PM
i bought my crx for $2850. you just have to know where to look.
Yet another car that is consistantly priced much more then it is worth.

GTS Jeff
04-13-2003, 09:51 PM
Originally posted by 5.9 R/T
Yet another car that is consistantly priced much more then it is worth. crx (si) vs mx3

-crx is faster
-crx weighs less
-crx has better suspension
-crx has more aftermarket support
-crx is not girly
-crx has close ratio 5 speed
-crx has more interior space
-hondas known to be more reliable than mazdas

88CRX
04-13-2003, 09:56 PM
-crx is faster
-crx weighs less
-crx has better suspension
-crx has more aftermarket support
-crx is not girly
-crx has close ratio 5 speed
-crx has more interior space
-hondas known to be more reliable than mazdas

Thats what i'm talking about.

Team_Mclaren
04-13-2003, 10:00 PM
No, what im saying is that do u guys have any other car around 91-93 that u would recommand, i know that mx3 dpesnt excist in 91

EstoMax
04-13-2003, 10:03 PM
a vw!

max

ConVict
04-13-2003, 10:04 PM
Originally posted by GTS Jeff
crx (si) vs mx3

-crx is faster
-crx weighs less
-crx has better suspension
-crx has more aftermarket support
-crx is not girly
-crx has close ratio 5 speed
-crx has more interior space
-hondas known to be more reliable than mazdas

I cant say I agree with all of that. The Mx-3 with the 2.5L V6 is a lot quicker then a CRX. I am not going to fight about anything else because I am not certain of the TRUE facts but I still give that a :thumbsdow

Pick what ever car you want, I have seen some nice ones around thats for sure. Watch out for reliability, it has the KL03 engine in it that the Second Gen Probe has in it. Parts are expensive to repair but it is a good engine base. You can get the J-spec KLZE like you talked about earlier, but I have know people who have gone through 3 whole motors cause they are junk shipped over from japan.
If you got money to be different then be different, thats what it takes. If you just want a quick, non stock car. I say go with something else

good hunting

Weapon_R
04-13-2003, 10:09 PM
Originally posted by ConVict


I cant say I agree with all of that. The Mx-3 with the 2.5L V6 is a lot quicker then a CRX.

That engine isn't even available here unless you swap it in, so there goes that argument...

ecstasyracer
04-13-2003, 10:14 PM
I think he means the 1.8L v6

ConVict
04-13-2003, 10:15 PM
if you get the v6 edition, as far as i know it is a KL03. 2.5L V6 ...

:dunno:

Weapon_R
04-13-2003, 10:23 PM
The V6 in the MX-3 is a pussy 1.8L v6.

The 2.5 V6 is a JDM engine I believe, and it has some balls.

GTS Jeff
04-13-2003, 10:25 PM
Originally posted by ConVict


I cant say I agree with all of that. The Mx-3 with the 2.5L V6 is a lot quicker then a CRX. I am not going to fight about anything else because I am not certain of the TRUE facts but I still give that a :thumbsdow well i AM certain.

first off, the 2.5L v6 comes in the mx6 mystere....NOT the precidia...its like saying that the crx w/ b16a is faster than a stock mx3....pointless!

and i DO know the facts about the cars...the crx weighs in at 2200lbs, whereas the mx3 weighs 2700lbs, the crx has 4 wheel independent double wishbone suspension....mx3 has struts all around....and its painfully obvious that the crx has a larger aftermarket following and that honda always ranks higher than mazda in reliability tests too

ConVict
04-13-2003, 10:26 PM
ya 200 hp... its not a bad engine, but the A-spec one only puts down 10 less whp... so not worth the money in my opinion to ship it over.

ConVict
04-13-2003, 10:27 PM
Originally posted by ConVict
ya 200 hp... its not a bad engine, but the A-spec one only puts down 10 less whp... so not worth the money in my opinion to ship it over.

and GTS... well put ... I cant argue with that haha

theken
04-13-2003, 10:28 PM
between the 2 i would rather walk. a crx is the slowest thing i have seen even with a zc engine they will still lose to just about everything on the road. a mx-3 is slow, ugly and basically built for a woman. well over priced for what they are worth. mx-3 like 7000 like kaput said, and i have never seen a decent crx for under 5. either way look into some more options.

88CRX
04-13-2003, 10:51 PM
a crx is the slowest thing i have seen even with a zc engine they will still lose to just about everything on the road

Right:rolleyes:

Slowest things on the road..... um no. Thats just an uneducated statement.

88CRX
04-13-2003, 10:51 PM
oh ya. a zc crx will run low 15's in the quarter.

theken
04-13-2003, 11:00 PM
low 15's in the 1/8 mile, considering they have what 125 hp at the fly thats not impresive. yes they are slow.



Originally posted by 88CRX


Slowest things on the road..... um no. .
i didn't say they are the slowest things on the road, get it right, civics are :D

gpomp
04-13-2003, 11:03 PM
Originally posted by 88CRX
oh ya. a zc crx will run low 15's in the quarter.

:rofl:

Good luck.:thumbsup:

88CRX
04-13-2003, 11:04 PM
stock sohc zc in a heavy 2nd gen crx si will be lucky to get into the 15s..

I have a dohc zc, and its not in a heavy si body.

I will post my timeslip on the 26th since I will be at racecity on friday and i will be in the 15's.





i didn't say they are the slowest things on the road

Ok, sorry. You said


a crx is the slowest thing i have seen

GTS Jeff
04-13-2003, 11:05 PM
Originally posted by 88CRX
oh ya. a zc crx will run low 15's in the quarter.

GTS Jeff
04-13-2003, 11:06 PM
Originally posted by theken
low 15's in the 1/8 mile, considering they have what 125 hp at the fly thats not impresive. yes they are slow.



i didn't say they are the slowest things on the road, get it right, civics are :D lol im sorry bud, but this post is as dumb as the zc crx = low 15s comment :rolleyes: :D

Team_Mclaren
04-13-2003, 11:06 PM
anyway, im not really considering a crx cause the insuance is gonna be sky high.
As for the motor on the mx:
KLZE - J-spec 626 - 200hp
KL03 - 2gen mx-6 - around 180 hp
k8 - mx-3 - 135hp.
Im considering the ZE, it puts out more power and they are not that expensive for a j-spec (around 2G). other than that,. I kinda wanna prove to u guys that an mx-3 can be quick and hot.
thats kinda my goal and the reason i wanna be diferent from all the civic out there (civic are great cars tho). If it's not the mx-3 i would probably go and find a 92-93 integra. but im leading to the mx.
tell me what u guys think?

ConVict
04-13-2003, 11:09 PM
we have been ?!?! GET WHAT YOU WANT... but like i said , being unique costs money...

88CRX
04-13-2003, 11:13 PM
baym? ok then.

I'm not going to sit here and fight about it. I'll let you know how it goes on the 25th and if I'm wrong I'll get someone to kick me in the jaw or something.

ConVict
04-13-2003, 11:35 PM
I'll do it :D

5.9 R/T
04-14-2003, 12:33 AM
Originally posted by 88CRX
i bought my crx for $2850. you just have to know where to look.

True, I have seen very few fairly priced crxs but for the most part people want an arm and a leg for a car with close to and over 200k on it, and people still buy them :dunno:. In most cases they ask well over book value, which is true of most imports but especially so in the crx's case. Supply and demand, lots of demand, little supply.


Originally posted by GTS Jeff
crx (si) vs mx3

-crx is faster
-crx weighs less
-crx has better suspension
-crx has more aftermarket support
-crx is not girly
-crx has close ratio 5 speed
-crx has more interior space
-hondas known to be more reliable than mazdas

So? They're still, for the most part, overpriced.

GTS Jeff
04-14-2003, 09:57 AM
heh..yea

hjr
04-14-2003, 12:42 PM
Originally posted by 88CRX
baym? ok then.

I'm not going to sit here and fight about it. I'll let you know how it goes on the 25th and if I'm wrong I'll get someone to kick me in the jaw or something.

fair enough. I hope you get into the 15's. What is the wieght of one of these old style CRX's?

Wildcat
04-14-2003, 12:50 PM
please no, it looks like a pod racer
My mom has an Mx-6 tho, its pretty cool and reliable! (i drive it in the winter) :D

theken
04-14-2003, 02:31 PM
at race city, on the 25th or 26th or whatever, we will line up k?? ill show u a 15 second car, maybe convict will line up and show u a 15.0 second car. :D

88CRX
04-14-2003, 04:45 PM
sure, what do you drive?

gpomp
04-14-2003, 05:24 PM
Originally posted by 88CRX
sure, what do you drive?

Ben
04-14-2003, 05:35 PM
hahahaha

low 15's in Calgary in a stock ZC, those are what, 130hp at the fly?

Make sure you bring the pine, you're gonna have to be sitting on it to make those claims.

I bet my car is faster than your ZC crx.

JDM equivalent of D16A1, bumps HP from like 118 to 130, why bother.

GTS Jeff
04-14-2003, 05:45 PM
Originally posted by Ben
hahahaha

low 15's in Calgary in a stock ZC, those are what, 130hp at the fly?

I bet my car is faster than your ZC crx.

JDM equivalent of D16A1, bumps HP from like 118 to 130, why bother. cuz a stock 88 crx si motor has 102hp, not 118...

doing a zc swap is a really cheap way to get an extra 30 horses, especially if the stock motor is high mileage. u of all ppl should know that 30 hp is a ton on a car as light as the crx

Ben
04-14-2003, 05:49 PM
Originally posted by GTS Jeff
cuz a stock 88 crx si motor has 102hp, not 118...

doing a zc swap is a really cheap way to get an extra 30 horses, especially if the stock motor is high mileage. u of all ppl should know that 30 hp is a ton on a car as light as the crx

yeah yeah, I wasn't thinking, but just the same, the bottom line is that low 15's is not likely.

ConVict
04-14-2003, 06:02 PM
Well I know my probe is a lot higher in the weight category 88crx. But I am putting around 160 WHP, and 230WTQ... and had a hard time running low 15's...
So try your best to prove us wrong , but I dont see it happening:dunno:

88CRX
04-14-2003, 06:03 PM
First off I had a wimpy 1.5L dx engine which is 92hp. A zc is 130hp that would be a 38hp gain.... not bad.

Also a ZC will run low 15's in the proper conditions (ex-sea level)

We are not at sea level so no I will not expect low 15's. I do however expect to be in the 15's, i hope. I have been told that what I should run so if I do great if not then i dont oh well.

maxboost_R
04-14-2003, 07:06 PM
When my bro had the b16 in my car his best time was 15 flat I think. I have the sohc zc in my car now my personal best was 16.1, when I showed my bro my timeslips he said with my 60' times that I should of been running like a high 15 like around 15.8 or so. So hopefully I can hit that this year. Hey 88CRX are you going to the first secret street? If you are we should race.

88CRX
04-14-2003, 07:33 PM
a sohc zc is 112hp. (or something like that)

a dohc zc is 130hp

So i should be in the 15's. Should. I'm not the best driver so it may take practice but it'll happen.


are you going to the first secret street
yes:D can't wait

maxboost_R
04-14-2003, 08:52 PM
yeah you should be somewhere in the mid 15's

Initial-D-Nerd
04-14-2003, 09:55 PM
someone please tell me when the first secret street is
haha, cuz my neighbor said hes goin in his 12 second pontiac, i wanna see it run, as well as watch some of the sweet imports. if u see a metalic white pontiac with louvered headlight covers, full roll cage, hoosier drag slicks, and a idle that shakes the ground, thats my neighbor, its N/A 455 olds big block, EFI, all motor, with 3.55 gears and it weighs 3900lbs :eek: . he claims it ran high 11s in edmonton. i wanna see that shit run :thumbsup: hope to see all u guys there, laters

88CRX
04-14-2003, 09:58 PM
yeah you should be somewhere in the mid 15's

woohoo. someone has faith in me:D

hey max is the rex in your sig you car. if not what color, etc.

GT2NV
04-14-2003, 11:36 PM
hmmm i doubt it... id be lucky to hit 15.9 and i take civic h/b zc's by like a car and a half...
my opinion is civics sound awful with exaust if youve ever heard the v6 mx3 it sounds deep and sexy and yes it would take a rex... but its pretty damn slow for a v6.... you could swap in the engine that the mx6's have or the probes cause its the same one and will drop in, haha ill sell you mine for 800$ 165hp 160 tq i wanna go jdm ze :( 200hp 190tq thats the way to go..... but its up to you man just get something eveyone has be unique:thumbsup: