Unruly teenager

[Si_FlyGuy]

Does anyone have any recommendations on how to deal with an unruly 17 year old (I'm just a family friend).

It's getting out of hand, so I'm looking for Maury Povich style boot camps in or around Calgary.

Any rent-a-thugs on here? :rofl:

[Supa Dexta]

Do they look up to anyone at all? Perhaps have that person take them out for the day, go somewares and have a talk with them, have them look around and see what type of people are doing what. And how if you want to be a dirtbag begger, you live on the streets and people have no respect for you... where over use of drugs and alcohol will lead you, and really, just see what they are thinking and why they are out of control. We all go thru it, to some extent. I was def the worst in my family, but I've come around and cleaned up and am doing well. People just need to figure out what they want, or get in enough trouble to want to change. etc

[JAYMEZ]

What do you want to give them a scare ? I can call my old friends lol

[Si_FlyGuy]

We had the cops involved after an incident last night. 5 mins after they were gone, he was lipping everyone off again. I had to subdue him, and the fokker was still taunting me (knowing that I wouldn't hit him) after I had a rear mount on him.

No, he doesn't look up to anyone at all, and is severely abusing the fact that his parents spares the rod.

Edit: For some reason, I knew Jaymez would reply lol.

Anything we can do without me going to jail?:p...

[Who?]

-Yeah, take him to the cecil.

-Make him hang out in the park near the drop in center

-Black bag his ass when he is walking home from school, lay a moderate ass whipping on him.

-If you know any greasballs, get them to show up.


Other stuff:

-Grab a set of vise grips and clamp it down on one of his front teeth, when it crumbles like a little cookie, he might shut the fuck up.

-Grab a blow torch, tie him to the couch (or tape) with his feet up on the end and warm them up for him.

-In the same restraint, you can razor blade the area below the toe nail and have it infect. By the time it heals, his toe nails will all be ingrown from the swelling.

-You know the funny bone? Well it isn't so funny after a few sessions with a ball-peen hammer.

-etc. Let me know.

[Who?]

Edit: oh, you said you didn't want to go to jail. Well, maybe let him know that if he tells on you, you will deny it all then have a lemon juice session with his eye sockets.

Say things like "Cut off your head" and "Fuck your throat-hole".

[sh0ko]

Black bag his ass when he is walking home from school, lay a moderate ass whipping on him

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you ask me man.. if his parents wont do anything why should u?!

[Si_FlyGuy]

Jack? Jack Bauer is that you? :rofl:

[RickDaTuner]

Hurting him will only elevate the situation, I think the best thing to do in this case would be to have some sort of strenuous physical activity as a consequence of his actions, and making sure that its done. another thing would be to limit, or completely take away the things he likes the most. really anything that would make him think twice about acting afoo...

really though from a psychological point of view, that young man just wants some love and attention

[Crymson]

Get him involved in a project. Something to focus his energy on. And something that he can see results on, and something that he can claim ownership and a sense of pride from. Give the kid something to car for, and something to lose. I think this is important for the upper middle class idle kids, something that isn't just a dollar sign to him.

Idle hands truely are the tools of the devil, especially for teenagers.

[duffspec]

It depends on the previous experiences that you had with this individual and what type of relationship you have with him. It sounds to me that your the enforcer when things don't go right and it might not be your responsibility to subdue him or even get in his face....just let him finish acting like a 4yr old but, don't respond like a figure of authority. In this case you might need to put your ego on the side, if you don't his reactions will always be back lash. It's away of getting attention or maybe he needs professional help.

Give us an Idea what you situations like and maybe we can be of more help.

[Super_Geo]

Originally posted by Si_FlyGuy
Jack? Jack Bauer is that you? :rofl:


:rofl: :rofl:

[schurchill39]

Take him on a little field trip to the crummy parts of town and see if you cant arange a little visit to the jailhouse. Just show him where his attitude will get him and it should start to knock some sense into him. The important thing is not to le him get to you. Always be calm even if hes being an asshole, that way when he comes to he will see that you were just trying to help him. Its alot harder to get pissed at somne one who is calm (it will just frusterate him)

[forced14]

Have you spoken with his parents on this at all? Perhaps you should be focusing on them more than him, trying to get them to do something about. Give them suggestions as mentioned by others here. They seem to be half the problem because of not using discipline when he was younger.

[doublepostwhore]

Seriously let him get into trouble, let the cops pick him up for assault/b&e or some shit, when he calls for bail after being at reman for a few weeks, then tell him to find a cheap lawyer that you will loan him the money for. Tell him to get one of his "thug" friends to bail him out, dont put up the cash yourself.

Only way a few of my friends out of HS learnt their lesson, Its tough to see someone you care about fuck their lfie over, but remember you can only take a horse to water, cant make him drink. This is canada, rapists can be judges, and murder'ers can be lawyers.

I second the notion of him needing attention we've all been there, see if you cant take him out and get him some pussy, nothing chills a man like a girl friend. Fuck by the time he decides to do something stupid, shes already slapped him across the head. .:devil: :rofl:

[Si_FlyGuy]

Mom agreed to psychological assessment, but dad's against it. I stayed out of it last night until it seemed like he was going to punch his sister again. This was about 2 mins after the cops left after having a stern discussion with him about punching his sister. He threw two sucker punches during a verbal argument. That was before I got there.

It was the first time he had physically hit someone, but it seems to be an escalating issue. To clarify, no blows were dealt on my part. I only subdued him until he stopped being a threat.

I agree that he's probably seeking attention, but I had him in a lock at one point and he dared me to break his elbow. He was even gagging for a split second before I released him from a sleeper hold after he made an agressive move at me. Every time I released pressure, he taunted me, which makes no sense.

[ZedMan]

He probably knows (or at least thinks he does) that you won't take it all the way.

[snowboard]

Dude, just give him jabs in teh kidney's stomach and shit till he shuts the fuck up next time. Kids are fucked these days (i know i am one, well sort of) they wont listen to shit.

[l8braker]

Originally posted by snowboard
Dude, just give him jabs in teh kidney's stomach and shit till he shuts the fuck up next time. Kids are fucked these days (i know i am one, well sort of) they wont listen to shit.

:werd: And then hit his parents for letting him act that way!

[RickDaTuner]

Originally posted by Si_FlyGuy
Jack? Jack Bauer is that you? :rofl:

you know how little kids wear superman underwear, well Chuck Norris wears Jack Bauer underwear

[sputnik]

"If you bungle raising your children, I don't think whatever else you do matters very much." - Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis

[JAYMEZ]

Originally posted by Si_FlyGuy
We had the cops involved after an incident last night. 5 mins after they were gone, he was lipping everyone off again. I had to subdue him, and the fokker was still taunting me (knowing that I wouldn't hit him) after I had a rear mount on him.

No, he doesn't look up to anyone at all, and is severely abusing the fact that his parents spares the rod.

Edit: For some reason, I knew Jaymez would reply lol.

Anything we can do without me going to jail?:p...


Hrmm how about 6 cars full of people outside his house following him lol... And it happens to be all black cars ... Lets see how cocky he gets :rofl: .. nothing works like intimdation

or

I could call him and talk to him :D

[the_new_santa1]

put him out in a field and tie him to a post....then call me up, I will bring my dm-6 paintball gun out and I will dump 22 balls per second on his ass, if he keeps complaining we will grab a couple cases of 2000 paintballs.

[403Gemini]

Originally posted by snowboard
Dude, just give him jabs in teh kidney's stomach and shit till he shuts the fuck up next time. Kids are fucked these days (i know i am one, well sort of) they wont listen to shit.

I would do this ;) if you see him hit his sister punch him in the gut, wind him. "not fun when somebody does it to you, is it?"

he gets lippy, ... grab the phonebook ;) that doesnt leave bruises

[Si_FlyGuy]

I've just been told that the kid was laughing about punching his sister today, and his parents did nothing. :banghead: :banghead:

[jcrules99]

HURT HIM next time, my little brother used to be really lippy too, cuz he knew my parents would protect him from me, then one day i just beat him up right in front of them, he was crying and shit, of course my parents were angry and i got a "talk" but he hasnt shown any atitude towards me since that day

[l8braker]

Originally posted by jcrules99
HURT HIM next time, my little brother used to be really lippy too, cuz he knew my parents would protect him from me, then one day i just beat him up right in front of them, he was crying and shit, of course my parents were angry and i got a "talk" but he hasnt shown any atitude towards me since that day

Where the hell are the Dad's parts? Kick his ass.

[Si_FlyGuy]

Anyone know the legalities of a consenting fight with a minor on private property?

Edit: The 12 year old sister has indicated today that she wishes to go live with her friends because she is scared for her safety. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to proceed?

[403Gemini]

Originally posted by Si_FlyGuy
Anyone know the legalities of a consenting fight with a minor on private property?

like i said, phone book, leaves no bruises then its your word vs his ;)

edit: hell, just let me and james beat the fuck outta him. we're "third party" and we could be "anonymous" lol

[riceeater]

Originally posted by Si_FlyGuy
Anyone know the legalities of a consenting fight with a minor on private property?

Edit: The 12 year old sister has indicated today that she wishes to go live with her friends because she is scared for her safety. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to proceed?

if the girl is THAT scared, i'd do it man... either her or him has to go, and actually it should be him that goes.. he's 17... stick his ass in the army reserves... he'll either learn and straighten up, or he'll learn to handle deadly weapons and come after you guys... i think he's got a good chance of doing that anyways if you let him get much more cocky, so i'd think of something soon... definately split up the kids! maybe have the girl come stay over at your place for a few days till shit blows over if you're that close to the family

[A790]

He needs an ass kicking, plain and simple.

[snowboard]

wow, yah if i was in your position i would go to his place pack his shit up and drag him out the door by his neck.
i'm only 18 but i dont give a shit, i would jump right too it. i hate kids like that.
and i would drag him with alot of force. and alot of anger, to let him know whos in control.
fuck what a little prick.

[Sharpie]

Originally posted by Si_FlyGuy
Mom agreed to psychological assessment, but dad's against it. I stayed out of it last night until it seemed like he was going to punch his sister again. This was about 2 mins after the cops left after having a stern discussion with him about punching his sister. He threw two sucker punches during a verbal argument. That was before I got there.

It was the first time he had physically hit someone, but it seems to be an escalating issue. To clarify, no blows were dealt on my part. I only subdued him until he stopped being a threat.

I agree that he's probably seeking attention, but I had him in a lock at one point and he dared me to break his elbow. He was even gagging for a split second before I released him from a sleeper hold after he made an agressive move at me. Every time I released pressure, he taunted me, which makes no sense.
I dunno about you, but if I saw some kid hit his younger sister I would lose it. That is just stupid to not do anything, just ask permision from his parents next time he does something like.

[acura_el]

tie him to a goal post and take his pants...then take pictures of him, go to his high school and post them all over the school's walls, inside and outside

if u get busted for child pornography, i accept no responsibility :rofl:

[frostyda9]

You don't need to kick his ass, you need to intimidate him mentally. Grab him by the throat, push him up against the wall, get 2 inches away from his face and have a talk with him. Where are his parents in all of this? It's good of you to help, but by the sounds of it they are the problem.

[l8braker]

Originally posted by frostyda9
You don't need to kick his ass, you need to intimidate him mentally. Grab him by the throat, push him up against the wall, get 2 inches away from his face and have a talk with him. Where are his parents in all of this? It's good of you to help, but by the sounds of it they are the problem.

imo, that's a little much for a "family friend" to do, as is this case. The Dad (if he is even around) needs to man up and deal with the kid, and if not him, an uncle, or grandfather.

my 2c

[FiveFreshFish]

Originally posted by Si_FlyGuy
It was the first time he had physically hit someone, but it seems to be an escalating issue. To clarify, no blows were dealt on my part. I only subdued him until he stopped being a threat.

He'll keep taunting you if he knows you won't hit him.

Time to change things up and give him a good shot in the solar plexus.

[MrSector9]

consenting fight... simple....

get some boxing gloves.

punch the head of him.

when he goes down... don't stop.

watch out though, he is a tough guy sinvce he beat up his 12 year old sister.

[403Gemini]

Honestly, id pack all of his shit up in garbage bags and toss it on the lawn. he has any electronics? take them to the garage and smash them with a hammer and let him find it. if he freaks (no doubt he will) laugh at him. he starts breaking things inside the house as a way of "backlashing".... well break his leg ;) or "restrain him" and make him pass out lol

edit: or ebay his shit

[szw]

Take his sandwich.

[Weapon_R]

Why is it up to you to discipline him?

[shedboy]

Originally posted by Weapon_R
Why is it up to you to discipline him?

because the parents are pussies? it's like watching maury "my 13 year old kicks my ass and i take it like a bitch"

slap dad around if anyone. parents are allowed to beat their kids, well not really, but they can get away with it. especially since he's still a minor. tell dad to knock some sense into him, or you will knock some sense into dad.

i remember when i was in like grade 6, i'd see jr high or high school kids and be like "yeah they could kick my ass." i'll pick my little brother up from school and the little bastards will swear at me. i dunno whats with kids these days, nobody gives a shit anymore.

[steverules]

Originally posted by Weapon_R
Why is it up to you to discipline him?


Thats a good question!

[Police]

hit the fucking kid already OMG haha

thats what happens when white parents don't hit their kids they go thug eminem style.:burnout:

[schurchill39]

NExt time you see him lash out violently jsut tell him right then and there "you think your a tough guy and wanna beat up girls, your a fucking pussy come and hit me" Challenge him man. If he hits you knock some sense into that boy, expecially if hes hitting his sister.

My brother thought it was a good idea to beat up my sister all the time so one time i finally caught him and challenged him. He hit me then i beat the fuck out of him. He hasnt touched her or me since (that I know of)

[Sprinter]

Originally posted by shedboy


because the parents are pussies? it's like watching maury "my 13 year old kicks my ass and i take it like a bitch"

slap dad around if anyone. parents are allowed to beat their kids, well not really, but they can get away with it. especially since he's still a minor. tell dad to knock some sense into him, or you will knock some sense into dad.

i remember when i was in like grade 6, i'd see jr high or high school kids and be like "yeah they could kick my ass." i'll pick my little brother up from school and the little bastards will swear at me. i dunno whats with kids these days, nobody gives a shit anymore.

Seeing a parent get their ass kicked by their kid is priceless

Why not hire a bunch of gangstas to kidnap the kid, pretending to hold him for ransom... wait, I think I saw that happen before, oh yea they made a movie just like that I can't remember what its called... "Malibu's Most Retarded" maybe???

[yellowsnow]

with all the child protection laws these days, i bet the parents are worried that punk will try and get a lawyer to sue their asses. but yeah, those parents need to do more than exchange words.

[Si_FlyGuy]

I challenged the fokker, he accepted but refused to hit me. When he closed in a little too quickly, I took that as an aggressive move and immediately turned him around and put him in a choke until he started gagging (which only took about a second because he's a pussy).

When he tried to get away by rolling, I went in a rear mount. When he had half control of one of my arms, he said "what're you going to do now, tough guy?". I elbow pinned him on the back of his neck and freed myself a second after. All I did after was pin him down until dad asked me to let him go.

Funny, dad was 3 feet behind me and didn't do anything. Mom was around the corner.

I fully agree that I shouldn't be the one to discipline him, but when he hit his sister and the parents did nothing to him (except yell) that's when I stepped in. My tie with this family is very close. I'd like to take care of him, but it's not worth going to jail for. I'm upset that the parents don't do anything to him.

[sputnik]

Originally posted by Police
hit the fucking kid already OMG haha

thats what happens when white parents don't hit their kids they go thug eminem style.:burnout:

Pretty much.

When I was in high school I had friends that I thought were so cool. They could stay out all night, swear at their parents and have the craziest parties.

Most of those people had kids before they graduated and still work at Safeway ten years later. I'm glad my parents kept me beaten regularily.

[Si_FlyGuy]

Originally posted by sputnik


Pretty much.

When I was in high school I had friends that I thought were so cool. They could stay out all night, swear at their parents and have the craziest parties.

Most of those people had kids before they graduated and still work at Safeway ten years later. I'm glad my parents kept me beaten regularily.

Agreed.

[slammed_cb7]

Well aside from the ass whoopin, which i totally agree with, kick the fucker out and send him as far away as possible, let him try to run away from boarding school in the middle of saskatchewan. You need to take away his "thug support" which i am guessing his friends provide. Also making him admit hes a pussy by challenging him might be really effective by breaking down his own image of himself as a tough guy in his head. So between ruining his suppoort and a good public humiliation, you may be able to show him hes a bitch. Also, i am willing to participate in either ass whooping or public humiliation.

[acura_el]

^^ Agreed as well. I was spanked and I turned out fine. For me, the belt was the weapon of choice

Beat his ass and take his lunch money

[Dooms_Bane]

Originally posted by Who?
-Yeah, take him to the cecil.

-Make him hang out in the park near the drop in center


i say....
second the motion...
strap some hot dogs to his chest and glue some money to his neck and hair
and throw him at the cecil or the drop in center :)
some bums are bound to chase him around for one of the few condiments strapped to him :)
LOL

do it....


"EDIT"

i couldn't help but to remember good old MADDOX...

Love your kids? Prove it by beating them (http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=beat)

"The 2 x 4 / PVC pipe. If you do your job as a parent, this should never have to be administered. This is for heavy duty jobs only (ie. any time your kid comes home and begins a sentence with "she might be pregnant..." or "I can _____ if I want to..." where the blank can be any of the following: smoke, have sex, experiment with drugs, watch Oprah, etc). Usually the threat of this beating is enough to keep your kid from screwing up. "

[Who?]

Restrain him and tie him up bent over a fence somewhere in a gay part of town.. duct tape his ass cheeks apart, put a change cup on his back and a sign saying "Free 18 year old male virgin ass" and make some money.

It's obvious he is going nowhere in life anyways.

[max_boost]

Remember: never take shit from your kids. You make payments on the house, utilities, their clothes, school, and their food. You own them. If they don't like it, they can move out. If you love your kids, love them enough to beat them so that they don't grow up to be idiots.

Take it easy with the beating part, don't want to kill them, other than that, I am :werd: with everything.

It's a tough situation. You want to discipline them by being hard nosed but you don't want their lives to go to the shits if they don't listen.

[Who?]

Originally posted by Who?
Restrain him and tie him up bent over a fence somewhere in a gay part of town.. duct tape his ass cheeks apart, put a change cup on his back and a sign saying "Free 18 year old male virgin ass" and make some money.

It's obvious he is going nowhere in life anyways. In case it gets missed.

[403Gemini]

i see absolutly nothing wrong with a good smack every now and again. Hell i used to be a lippy SoB and after a good hit it knocks some sense into you :thumbsup:

[Who?]

Originally posted by 403Gemini
i see absolutly nothing wrong with a good smack every now and again. Hell i used to be a lippy SoB and after a good hit it knocks some sense into you :thumbsup: Yup. I got it and everyone I know got it when they were younger.

Remember getting it when I was 13.. I was mouthing of this big indian at a rec center and he drilled me in the grill.

My mom and dad laughed about it and told me to stfu next time.

Nowadays, kids walk around pretending theyre badass and figure that if anything happens, their friends will automatically show up and represent. Wtf? They are going to show up magically in between the time a guy swings and the time it lands on his face? Good luck with that.

Now their parents scream justice and if their mouthly little wasteoid shit of a child gets his ass rocked.