prelude offsets

[Lo)2enz0]

hey, i have been reading up on honda tech for offsets for 97-01 preludes.

now my questions is, what offsets are you guys running. I have head that anything under 45 will rub.

[buh_buh]

taken from 5th gen Prelude thread


Originally posted by richardchan2002
Hey guys, Kevin posted this on another forum. I thought I’d share. :P

Tires

Other sizes can be used, but these will be the majority of sizes used.
Where "Overall Diameter is Larger" is noted there maybe a problem with cars that are lowered.
These are only tires that are close to stock O.D., the offset of your wheels needs to be correct in order to prevent rubbing issues.
235 Width Tires are Not Recommended

Larger Diameter Wheels with cause your Speedometer to Display Slower than you Actual Speed
Smaller Diameter Wheels with cause your Speedometer to Display Faster than you Actual Speed[/U]
5th Generation (1997-2001)
205/50/15 - Better Acceleration, Overall Diameter is Smaller
205/55/15 - Recommended 15”Size Tire w/ 6.5" wide wheel

215/50/15 - Larger Contact Patch, Better Acceleration, Overall Diameter is Smaller
225/45/15 - Even Larger Contact Patch, Minimum of 7" wide wheel is recommended, Overall Diameter is Smaller
225/50/15 - Even Larger Contact Patch, Minimum of 7" wide wheel is Recommended
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205/50/16 - Stock Size, Recommended 16”Size Tire
215/45/16 - Larger Contact Patch
215/50/16 - Larger Contact Patch, Overall Diameter is Larger

225/45/16 - Even Larger Contact Patch, Minimum of 7" wide wheel is Recommended
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215/40/17 - Larger Contact Patch, Recommended 17”Size Tire
215/45/17 - Larger Contact Patch, Overall Diameter is Larger
225/40/17 - Even Larger Contact Patch, Very Limited Selection of Brands
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215/35/18 - Larger Contact Patch, Small Profile means Less Protection for Wheels
215/40/18 - Larger Contact Patch, Overall Diameter is Larger

225/35/18 - Even Larger Contact Patch, Recommended tire size for 18x7.5" with at least a +48mm offset
225/40/18 - Even Larger Contact Patch, Overall Diameter is Larger, Not Recommended if car is Lowered

4th Generation (1992-1996)
205/55/15 - Stock Size, Recommended 15”Size Tire
205/50/15 - Better Acceleration, Overall Diameter is Smaller
215/50/15 - Larger Contact Patch, Better Acceleration, Overall Diameter is Smaller

225/45/15 - Even Larger Contact Patch, Minimum of 7" wide wheel is recommended, Overall Diameter is Smaller
225/50/15 - Even Larger Contact Patch, Minimum of 7" wide wheel is Recommended
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205/50/16 - Recommended 16”Size Tire
215/45/16 - Larger Contact Patch
215/50/16 - Larger Contact Patch, Overall Diameter is Larger
225/45/16 - Even Larger Contact Patch, Minimum of 7" wide wheel is Recommended
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205/40/17 - Overall Diameter is Smaller, Not Recommended w/ 7.5" wide or larger wheel
215/40/17 - Larger Contact Patch, Recommended 17”Size Tire
215/45/17 - Larger Contact Patch, Overall Diameter is Larger
225/40/17 - Even Larger Contact Patch, Very Limited Selection of Brands
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215/35/18 - Larger Contact Patch, Small Profile means Less Protection for Wheels
215/40/18 - Larger Contact Patch, Overall Diameter is Larger
225/35/18 - Even Larger Contact Patch, Recommended tire size for 18x7.5" with at least a +48mm offset

225/40/18 - Even Larger Contact Patch, Overall Diameter is Larger, Not Recommended if car is Lowered

3rd Generation (1988-1991)
195/60/14 - Stock Size
205/55/14 - Larger Contact Patch, Overall Diameter is Smaller
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205/50/15 - Larger Contact Patch
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215/45/16 - Even Larger Contact Patch, Overall Diameter is Larger

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205/40/17 - Larger Contact Patch


Offset
These are only recommendations based upon comments from members of the board.
4th & 5th Gen. Stock = 6.5" Wide Wheel w/ +55mm
3rd Generation Stock = 5.5" Wide Wheel w/ +45mm

Note:
Most people who lower 5th Generation Prelude w/ aftermarket wheel equipped need to trim off a small piece of the rear bumper cover inside of the wheel well. You can trim is using a dremel, grinder, a file (take longer obviously), etc --- it is only plastic. If you put your hand inside the wheel well you will see what I'm referring to. See image below:

http://www.chicagolandpreludeclub.com/images/mugenlude/reartab.jpg

6.5" Wide Wheels w/ 4th & 5th Gen.

Less than +38mm ::: You take the chance of rubbing the outside lip of the wheel well.

+38mm to +55mm ::: You shouldn't have any problems. Recommended Offsets for 6.5" Wide Wheels.
Larger than +55mm ::: You take the chance of rubbing the inside lining of the wheel well.


7" Wide Wheels w/ 4th & 5th Gen.

Less than +38mm ::: Not Recommended

+38mm to +41mm ::: Not Recommended if you are, or plan to be, lowered. You take the chance of rubbing the outside lip of the wheel well.
+42mm to +44mm ::: This is a grey area if you are lowered, results vary depending on tire and/or drop. You take the chance of rubbing the outside lip of the wheel well.
+45mm to +50mm ::: You shouldn't have any problems. Recommended Offsets for 7" Wide Wheels.
Larger than +51mm ::: Not Recommend. You take the chance of rubbing the inside lining of the wheel well.



7.5" Wide Wheels w/ 4th & 5th Gen.

Less than +40mm ::: Not Recommended
+40mm to +43mm ::: Not Recommended if you are, or plan to be, lowered. You take the chance of rubbing the outside lip of the wheel well. Wouldn't recommend using any tire with an overall diameter larger than stock and/or with a tire width larger than 215.
+44mm to +47mm ::: This is a grey area if you are lowered, results vary depending on tire and/or drop. You take the chance of rubbing the outside lip of the wheel well. Wouldn't recommend using a tire with an overall diameter more than slightly larger than stock, you chances of rubbing increase.

+48mm to +52mm ::: You shouldn't have any problems. Recommended Offsets for 7.5" Wide Wheels.
Larger than +53mm ::: Not Recommend. You take the chance of rubbing the inside lining of the wheel well.


8" Wide Wheels w/ 4th & 5th Gen.
Not recommended without enlarging or rolling outside lip of wheel wells. Some people have had success with running offsets larger than +48mm, but you are taking a risk. The setup that is working for monk3y is 215/40/17 tires dropped about 1.5".



Stock Lug Pattern
5th Generation ::: 5x114.3
4th Generation ::: 4x114.3
3rd Generation ::: 4x100

[rc2002]

I ran +48 and +50mm offsets on 17" and 18" wheels (7.5" wide) and no problems with rubbing whatsoever. I was even lowered a couple inches.

Rubbing isn't as big a deal as caliper clearance is.

[Lo)2enz0]

awsome, thanks guys for all the info.

well i am thinking about getting a set of rota slipstreams (16x6.5 45+ offset) and the car lowered on tein s-techs

[buh_buh]

shouldnt be a problem at all.
6.5" wide wheel is not even close to being too wide.
You can fit 8's in there with the right offset.

[tirebob]

ET42's on a 7.0 to 7.5 inch wide rim don't usually cause any problems unless you are really low or unless you have some serious camber issues.

That being said, ET45 to ET48 tends to be ideal...

[tabouli]

wtf you got a prelude laurier?!?!

[Lo)2enz0]

ya the mini mini van retired a week ago. loving the prelude :drool:

but s13's for life alex

[1-Bar]

bah, it all hit and miss...I ran 7.5" wide with +43 offset and lowered 2" with my old rims and no issues....

[buh_buh]

it really depends on the tire. Every manufacturer's tire design will be different. Some have flatter sidewalls, some have bulgier.

btw you want to keep these questions in the prelude thread? That's what its there for. thanks.

[tirebob]

Originally posted by buh_buh
it really depends on the tire. Every manufacturer's tire design will be different. Some have flatter sidewalls, some have bulgier.

btw you want to keep these questions in the prelude thread? That's what its there for. thanks. This is a wheel and tire discussion forum... no?

And absolutely! Different manufacturers tread widths make a big difference for sure...

[1-Bar]

^yeah but its prelude specific, you can probably get more input from actual prelude owners to see what works/doesn't a lot faster. Also this topic was covered several times in that thread too....

[Lo)2enz0]

well if its been covered its hard to find. there is a reason why the s13 thread was turned into a section.

none the less, thanks for the help guys

[1-Bar]

^np, richard needs to update the index on page 1, lol...

[2.2vtec]

Does anyone know if I can slap on 205/55/16 on stock rims instead of the recommended tire size of 205/50/16?

[buh_buh]

you can, you will just have a taller sidewall and your speedo will be a little off.

[2.2vtec]

^ But will it look much different and I will probably rub if i'm already lowered correct?

[Lo)2enz0]

lets bring the thread back to life.

Ok, kind of want to bring the whole fitment thing over into my little honda world

lately i have been thinking about running 16x7 with a +35 offset, make its a bit more flush. When it comes to suspension if you have stiff enough suspension and set it settle before you drop it more I think this could be pulled off.

there would be +14mm of inner clearance and it will be extended 26mm. even if i went 16x8 +38 there would still be more clearance but the outer position will be extended 10 more mm.

has anyone even tried low offsets on honda's yet on this board or should i just talk to the nut bags on honda tech who think they drive nissans now with there 0 offsets

[Skyline_Addict]

i think that'll rub for sure man...

[Lo)2enz0]

i think my friend has a 16x8 +35 kicking around. going to attempt to test fit it. thats if he lets me