Rounded/Screwed Oil Drain Plug - Suggestions - Help

[hoamic11]

Ok, here's what i got, need to do an oil change and the head of the drain bolt is completely facked. it has no edges on it to grab onto,

have tried using a pipe wrench, vice grips, the rounded bolt socket removers,

Need help with this, have done a search on the net and have read on these types of solutions but haven't tried it, so would like to know if you've ever run into this type of problem or have tried these solutions, if not maybe the opinion of what would work.

really i think only solutions i do have is this:
-Drill into/thru the bolt and tap it , then trying to extract it out

-Weld another bolt on it and then take the bolt and drain plug out that way

-trying to saw a flat into the head and using a big flat screwdriver to take it out


I know the very last resort is to replace the oil pan but would like to not do that yet. Umm, think what happened the drain plug was replaced and tighten too much or something but that thing is in there and doesn't want to come out

[Police]

or try turning it counter clockwise:thumbsup:

[hoamic11]

trust me i was turning it the right way

[fatguylittlecar]

I am a mech i have sweet pair pilers that would work they never let me down yet for snap on bring it to my shop and if u get your oil change done there ill change out the plug

[hoamic11]

Originally posted by fatguylittlecar
I am a mech i have sweet pair pilers that would work they never let me down yet for snap on bring it to my shop and if u get your oil change done there ill change out the plug

where do you work?, i also had help from civicsi and as he puts it the bolt head is "Bastarded" now

[fatguylittlecar]

49 and elbow britania esso

[fatguylittlecar]

our oil changes are about 45 plus tax

[hoamic11]

ok, well i've got everything, just need that damn bolt loosened, i'm just sick of it, worked on it today for like 4 hours, and the day b4 for another 1.5

[Police]

one time i used an impact to it, but you have to be careful not to pound a socket in there too hard as it could dent the oil pan...umm same goes for air chisel lol. Honestly i think the vice grip is the best option. For next time don't use wrenches for oil plugs, not even the box end. The ratchet works the best assuming they are 6 point sockets.:thumbsup:

[fatguylittlecar]

lol trust me id get it :D it is rare not to get on out

[fatguylittlecar]

vise grips are crap dont use:thumbsdow

[fatguylittlecar]

6 point socket good:thumbsup:

[hoamic11]

Originally posted by Police
one time i used an impact to it, but you have to be careful not to pound a socket in there too hard as it could dent the oil pan...umm same goes for air chisel lol. Honestly i think the vice grip is the best option. For next time don't use wrenches for oil plugs, not even the box end. The ratchet works the best assuming they are 6 point sockets.


yeah, normally i just the 6pt mastercraft socket, this is the first time for me it has ever gone this far/gone this bad



Originally posted by fatguylittlecar
lol trust me id get it :D it is rare not to get on out


yeah, well if make it down there tomorrow then i'll let ya take alook and tell me what you think

[hoamic11]

Originally posted by fatguylittlecar
our oil changes are about 45 plus tax

man, if you guys charge that for a regular oil change, what's the price on a synthetic oil change?

so what's the name so i know who i'm asking for

[fatguylittlecar]

k just ask for ryan

[fatguylittlecar]

i think its like65

[962 kid]

Originally posted by fatguylittlecar
vise grips are crap dont use:thumbsdow


ViceGrips can be life savers...problem most people have is thinking the chinese knock-off they bought at Princess Auto is a ViseGrip

[fatguylittlecar]

we check over complet car ture we are not as cheap as lube city or others but we dont round off plugs lol :thumbsup:

[fatguylittlecar]

trust me i have real vise grips sure they have there porpose but use the right tool for the job and iits not time to break out the "vise grips"

[hoamic11]

yeah well right now that plug is pretty much fack'd

[fatguylittlecar]

wow 4 hrs working on it i hope i dont piss u off to much when it only takes a few min lol

[hoamic11]

nah, if you get it in a few minutes i'll be relieved, just wondering what it'd cost me, as well if i supply everything what kinda of disount or how much does it actually save me

[fatguylittlecar]

i think the owner charges like 15 to 20 if u bring your own stuff
:dunno:

[fatguylittlecar]

do you have the new plug???

[hoamic11]

well that ain't bad, hopefully u can get it out then

[hoamic11]

Originally posted by fatguylittlecar
do you have the new plug???

yeah i've got a spoon magnetic one to replace it, but now i'm starting to think about looking into that fram thing

[fatguylittlecar]

ill do my best :thumbsup:

[BlkMaxima]

Hey, Fatguy so what is this secret tool that you seem not to wanna reveal??:confused:

[fatguylittlecar]

the Quick drian one???

[fatguylittlecar]

blue point pariot nose plliers ill see if i can find a link

[BlkMaxima]

Originally posted by fatguylittlecar
blue point pariot nose plliers ill see if i can find a link

lol what??

do you mean parrot

[fatguylittlecar]

lol yupers not a good speller u busted me
:banghead:

[hoamic11]

Originally posted by fatguylittlecar
the Quick drian one???

yeah

[BlkMaxima]

post a link never heard of these things

[fatguylittlecar]

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?P65=&tool=hand&item_ID=55498&group_ID=11629&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog




there ya go :thumbsup:

[fatguylittlecar]

mac tools has somthing like it to

[hoamic11]

Originally posted by BlkMaxima
post a link never heard of these things

i'm searching too and can't find em either

[hoamic11]

that's funny, i was just on snap-on's website right before you posted, haha

[fatguylittlecar]

lol i payed twice that off the snap on truck:banghead:

[hoamic11]

havne't tried those type of pliers/wrenches before but i did think about it, i guess anything is worth a try

[hoamic11]

yeah, usually their more expensive, but then again snap-on is already expensive tools

[BlkMaxima]

Oh Snap, I have a pair of those, I didn't know what it was called though, They work awesome if you have a superman grip!! :thumbsup:


You'd better have a crazy grip to get that stripped drain plug out though

[fatguylittlecar]

i takes a little while to get use to them but they never slip off they just grip tighter the the more u turn
:thumbsup: luv them

[fatguylittlecar]

my grips good years of practice i guess :thumbsup:

[fatguylittlecar]

lol cant belive that ive posted do much over a stupid drian plug ps dont get the fram one

[hoamic11]

what's wrong with the fram one?

[BlkMaxima]

Originally posted by fatguylittlecar
my grips good years of practice i guess :thumbsup:

Ya maybe at jerking off, or giving hand jobs

:rofl: j/k

[Zero102]

Get a pipe wrench. They are made to grab onto round objects. As you turn them they just bite tighter and tighter.

That is, if there is room to use a good pipe wrench.

If buddy here will do it for $15-$20 then you might as well take it in to him, since it will be cheaper than a good pipe wrench.

[fatguylittlecar]

had one customer lose all his oil once with one i perfer a normal one but what ever u want its your car

[fatguylittlecar]

lol mabey the first one

Originally posted by BlkMaxima


Ya maybe at jerking off, or giving hand jobs

:rofl: j/k

[hoamic11]

tried using a 10" pipewrench from princess auto and that didn't work at all

well i've got the magnetic spoon one so i'll be good with it

[fatguylittlecar]

not the later one :thumbsdow lol

[three.eighteen.]

if still no good, dremel a line thru the middle of the bolt and turn it into a make-shift screw??

[AllGoNoShow]

Snap On Truck = Rip off

Best use for a Snap On truck? Waste 15 minutes without having to claim smoke or coffee break. Fucking basterds are too expensive off that thing.

[Zero102]

A princess auto pipe wrench.... the kind that has a big screw that runs down the side to clamp the jaws down with big agressive teeth?
Or just a pair of hose pump pliers?

[hoamic11]

Originally posted by Zero102
A princess auto pipe wrench.... the kind that has a big screw that runs down the side to clamp the jaws down with big agressive teeth?
Or just a pair of hose pump pliers?

yep, the one you mentioned, but i think i don't have much choices to me, it's either drilling in to it and tapping it out, or possibly this new oil extractor thing, and of course the last resort a new oil pan.

[Hirosimezz]

Well, thanks to some assholes from instant-oilchange outlet mine got rounded too. Will never allow anybody fiddle with my cars unless it is electronics, A/C or something really mechanically complicated and/or requiring special tools.

But I digress. What I am thinking of is repairing the panes of the plug using a file (rasp-file) to saw off the plug to say 1 or 2 sizes down. (like if it was 13 mm, then it will become 12 or 11mm) and re-try it with a good socket. If that does not work - then buy a good the pipe wrench which (if you do not need it anymore) you can probably return to the shop:D But a really good pipe wrench is an absolute must for everyone practicing the DIY arts... ;)

[Seanith]

Originally posted by hoamic11


yep, the one you mentioned, but i think i don't have much choices to me, it's either drilling in to it and tapping it out, or possibly this new oil extractor thing, and of course the last resort a new oil pan.

Holy fuck Mike let this guy get it out already :rofl:

[Nova316]

Originally posted by Hirosimezz

But I digress. What I am thinking of is repairing the panes of the plug using a file (rasp-file) to saw off the plug to say 1 or 2 sizes down. (like if it was 13 mm, then it will become 12 or 11mm) and re-try it with a good socket. If that does not work - then buy a good the pipe wrench which (if you do not need it anymore) you can probably return to the shop:D But a really good pipe wrench is an absolute must for everyone practicing the DIY arts... ;)

That works quite well unless you've rounded it so much that u can just hammer on a new socket then use that to loosen it
if its to tight you can always put the socket on there then stick a jack underneath it and jack up the socket, most 2ton jacks will have enough force to break loose most bolts

[andres_mt]

Originally posted by Nova316


That works quite well unless you've rounded it so much that u can just hammer on a new socket then use that to loosen it
if its to tight you can always put the socket on there then stick a jack underneath it and jack up the socket, most 2ton jacks will have enough force to break loose most bolts

GREAAAAAAAAT technique, plus it's fun letting gravity do all the work haha

[hoamic11]

Originally posted by Seanith


Holy fuck Mike let this guy get it out already :rofl:


well let fatlittlecarguy take a try at it and no success.

[Hirosimezz]

Originally posted by Nova316
That works quite well unless you've rounded it so much

If you ever studied geometry then you probably remember that you can always convert a circle back into a hexagon - all you need is a thin marker pen and a bit of patience.;)


Originally posted by Nova316
just hammer on a new socket then use that to loosen it
if its to tight you can always put the socket on there then stick a jack underneath it and jack up the socket

And then since many an oilpan are made of aluminum and such you will make your day even happier by cracking it... :D

Oh, a note to the author of the original post - drilling a stuck bolt out but into an oilsump is a liability - there is a chance you will not take all the borings out and you know what it means...:D

[Hirosimezz]

Originally posted by andres_mt


GREAAAAAAAAT technique, plus it's fun letting gravity do all the work haha

And only if gravity could buy you a new sump too... :D :D

[dave5473]

if you have to drill it out use a left hand drill bit. then you might get lucky and it will loosen while your drilling

[hoamic11]

Originally posted by dave5473
if you have to drill it out use a left hand drill bit. then you might get lucky and it will loosen while your drilling


good sugguestion, haven't really thought about that one


thinking about this oil extractor thing that Hingkit is selling:

http://forums.beyond.ca/showthread.php?s=&threadid=139161

what do you guys think?

[Hirosimezz]

Yeah, just do not forget that the bit should be configured accordingly ;) ;)

Good luck! :)

[Weapon_R]

Try dremeling a line through it and use a flat head screwdriver, or have someone weld an old socket to the bolt and then turn away.

[ricosuave]

so, what happened?

[barbarian]

Make sure to use curved jaw vice grips - WR, I think.

[alienman]

I always us the Craftsman Bolt remover things... it just fits over the end of the bolt head and as you turn it cuts into it and tightens up and then the bolt loosens... Never had it not work yet....