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eljefe
09-21-2006, 12:16 PM
U.N. expert: Iraq torture may be worse By ELIANE ENGELER, Associated Press Writer
1 hour, 52 minutes ago



GENEVA - Torture in Iraq may be worse now than it was under Saddam Hussein, with militias, terrorist groups and government forces disregarding rules on the humane treatment of prisoners, the U.N. anti-torture chief said Thursday.

Manfred Nowak, the U.N. special investigator on torture, made the remarks as he was presenting a report on detainee conditions at the U.S. prison in Guantanamo Bay as well as to brief the U.N. Human Rights Council, the global body's top rights watchdog, on torture worldwide.

Reports from Iraq indicate that torture "is totally out of hand," he said. "The situation is so bad many people say it is worse than it has been in the times of Saddam Hussein."

Nowak added, "That means something, because the torture methods applied under Saddam Hussein were the worst you could imagine."

Some allegations of torture were undoubtedly credible, with government forces among the perpetrators, he said, citing "very serious allegations of torture within the official Iraqi detention centers."

"You have terrorist groups, you have the military, you have police, you have these militias. There are so many people who are actually abducted, seriously tortured and finally killed," Nowak told reporters at the U.N.'s European headquarters.

"It's not just torture by the government. There are much more brutal methods of torture you'll find by private militias," he said.

A report by the U.N. Assistance Mission in Iraq's Human Rights office cited worrying evidence of torture, unlawful detentions, growth of sectarian militias and death squads, and a rise in "honor killings" of women.

Iraq's government, set up in 2006, is "currently facing a generalized breakdown of law and order which presents a serious challenge to the institutions of Iraq" such as police and security forces and the legal system, the U.N. report said, noting that torture was a major concern.

Nowak has yet to make an official visit to Iraq and said such a mission would be unfeasible as long as the security situation there remains perilous. He based his comments on interviews with people during a visit to Amman, Jordan, and other sources.

"You find these bodies with very heavy and very serious torture marks," he said. "Many of these allegations, I have no doubt that they are credible."

According to the U.N. report, the number of Iraqi civilians killed in July and August hit 6,599, a record-high that is far greater than initial estimates suggested, the U.N. report said Wednesday.

It attributed many of the deaths to rising sectarian tensions that have pushed Iraq toward civil war.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060921/ap_on_re_mi_ea/un_iraq_torture

NGRPLZ.NET
09-21-2006, 12:32 PM
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

This is what I read:

"I DONT LIKE AMERICA"

eljefe
09-21-2006, 12:43 PM
Originally posted by NGRPLZ.NET
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

This is what I read:

"I DONT LIKE AMERICA"

:rofl: I guess you have your distortion glasses on, I am certain the author from the AP wasn't implying that nor was I. I quite like our neighbours to the south. Perhaps what you should have interpreted from my posting that article was it seems like this US government attempt at nation rebuilding has not gone all that well yet and needs some serious work.

NGRPLZ.NET
09-21-2006, 12:47 PM
Originally posted by eljefe


:rofl: I guess you have your distortion glasses on, I am certain the author from the AP wasn't implying that nor was I. I quite like our neighbours to the south. Perhaps what you should have interpreted from my posting that article was it seems like this US government attempt at nation rebuilding has not gone all that well yet and needs some serious work. Ohhhhh.... come on now.. you wish "Death to America" like the rest of us.. :closed: :rofl:

eljefe
09-21-2006, 12:56 PM
:thumbsup: great dialogue out of you :rolleyes:

Toma
09-21-2006, 01:28 PM
Originally posted by eljefe
:thumbsup: great dialogue out of you :rolleyes:
what do you expect from a newbie with a name like ngrplz.... probably just the same old 2 guys with their 17th user account :nut:

NGRPLZ.NET
09-21-2006, 01:35 PM
NGRPLZ. Never been to this site until I registered a week or so ago.

Why would you guys get angry at me for not taking you seriously? No one else here does...

Toma
09-21-2006, 03:09 PM
Originally posted by NGRPLZ.NET
NGRPLZ. Never been to this site until I registered a week or so ago.

Why would you guys get angry at me for not taking you seriously? No one else here does...
you must think you are somewhere else.... this site has over 10,000 members, 800 of which are active at any one time.

The same 5 idiots are always saying the same shit. Who gives a fuck what they think?? :dunno:

:poosie:

And, I am smarter then you, richer then you, better looking then you, have a bigger cock then you, and more respected then you. :nut: Don't be jealous like the other wankers that always post the same "Toma is ****" all the time lol.... but never manage to put together a cohesive arguement to what I post.

l8braker
09-21-2006, 03:17 PM
Originally posted by Toma
And, I am smarter then you, richer then you, better looking then you, have a bigger cock then you, and more respected then you. :nut: Don't be jealous like the other wankers that always post the same "Toma is ****" all the time lol.... but never manage to put together a cohesive arguement to what I post.

that was pretty damn funny.

googe
09-21-2006, 03:25 PM
Originally posted by Toma
And, I am smarter than you, richer than you, better looking than you, have a bigger cock than you, and more respected than you. :nut: Don't be jealous like the other wankers that always post the same "Toma is ****" all the time lol.... but never manage to put together a cohesive arguement to what I post.

fixed :thumbsup:

Toma
09-21-2006, 03:30 PM
Originally posted by googe


fixed :thumbsup:
:rofl: its like a mstercard commercial.... priceless lol

Watcher
09-21-2006, 09:35 PM
Originally posted by googe


fixed :thumbsup:

Well, if you are going to fix it, you might as well do it right...


Originally posted by Toma

And, I am dumber than you, poorer than you, uglier than you, have a smaller cock than you, and more disrespected than you. :nut: Don't laugh when the other beyonders always post the same "Toma is ****" all the time lol.... the funny part is me, I never manage to put together a cohesive arguement to what I post.

Toma
09-21-2006, 10:39 PM
Originally posted by Watcher


Well, if you are going to fix it, you might as well do it right...


:love: ahhh, I was starting to miss you. I was at the edge of my seat waiting for your return from your shift at Macdonalds ........ anxiously awaiting your brilliant contribution to this thread. :thumbsup:

:poosie: :thumbsup:

Khyron
09-21-2006, 11:34 PM
I'm not doubting the article, but I don't like how they use the word "torture" for almost everything nowadays. Only 2 meals instead of 3? Torture. Lights on at night? Torture. Stripped to underpants? Torture? No. Mistreated, maybe. Soldering iron to the eyes, teeth drilled apart with a craftsman - that's torture. Which may very well be what they are talking about, but who knows.

Khyron

justincalgary
09-22-2006, 02:34 PM
Originally posted by Khyron
Soldering iron to the eyes, teeth drilled apart with a craftsman - that's torture.
Khyron

*Note to self*
Don't piss Khyron off:guns:

KuruptEX
09-22-2006, 02:37 PM
word i like rap

NGRPLZ.NET
09-23-2006, 11:33 AM
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yellowsnow
09-23-2006, 11:45 AM
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