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T78Supra1
10-02-2006, 01:23 PM
Just wanted to know what some of you guys thought.

All i know is that the is350 handles better and has a better reliability and is just as fast.

Which one do you think is the better car and Why?

bigboom
10-02-2006, 01:25 PM
i dunno if id say the is350 handles better than the 335i...i definetly like it better for the quality and reliability but even when cross shopping the 330i and the is350 i found the 330i more fun and responsive to drive. but if it were up to me as to what id rather own id take the is350 any day.

Altezza
10-02-2006, 01:27 PM
Even with the VDIM disable in '07, the IS350 probably won't handle as well as the 335i. I'd rather drive the 330/335i, but I'd rather own an IS350.

rc2002
10-02-2006, 01:31 PM
The 335 > IS350 for handling any day of the week. The E90 BMW handling is unreal.

JspecB16
10-02-2006, 01:49 PM
Turbo BMW:drool:

benyl
10-02-2006, 02:17 PM
Lexus has made the IS into a bit of a grandpa car.

IS350 < 335i

If they come out with an IS430 or and IS500, then we will talk. haha

Xtrema
10-02-2006, 04:04 PM
Only reliability of a turbo'd BMW I have reservation on. But everything else should own IS350.

max_boost
10-02-2006, 04:45 PM
Reliability? How many years do you plan to keep the car for? I would buy it, bag on it for the 4 years and give it back to BMW. Who knows.....in 4 years BMW might come out with someting even better :D


Originally posted by benyl
If they come out with an IS430 or and IS500, then we will talk. haha

BMW always seems to be one notch up on them. They would probably release a 355I that would smoke it....again! haha:drool:

ALBERTA_IS
10-03-2006, 04:30 AM
I bought the IS350, I am kinda bieased but I think the Lexus is a better car for what I want. I was looking for pure luxury, power and reliability. BMW is a gorgeous car but I don't want to have any problems even though I ended up getting side swiped by a semi. See pics below. I haven't actually drove the 335 so I can't really knock it I guess!

my car went from this:

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/5/web/2405000-2405999/2405361_11_full.jpg


To this:

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/5/web/2405000-2405999/2405361_21_full.jpg

Mitsu3000gt
10-03-2006, 07:55 AM
Pretty sure the 335i is significantly faster than the IS. The magazines have been hitting sub 5's with it. Also, the torque curve/power delivery is outstanding. The lexus is a great car too but I'd take the 335i any day in this case.

DoubleLP
10-03-2006, 08:07 AM
Originally posted by ALBERTA_IS
I bought the IS350, I am kinda bieased but I think the Lexus is a better car for what I want. I was looking for pure luxury, power and reliability. BMW is a gorgeous car but I don't want to have any problems even though I ended up getting side swiped by a semi. See pics below. I haven't actually drove the 335 so I can't really knock it I guess!

my car went from this:

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/5/web/2405000-2405999/2405361_11_full.jpg


To this:

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/5/web/2405000-2405999/2405361_21_full.jpg

OUCH! I am sorry to hear that bro!! Glad that you are ok!!


I would take the Lexus IS350 over the BMW. I just like the styling of the IS350 a lot more then the BMW.

Redlyne_mr2
10-03-2006, 09:13 AM
Originally posted by benyl
Lexus has made the IS into a bit of a grandpa car.

IS350 &lt; 335i

If they come out with an IS430 or and IS500, then we will talk. haha
Looks like an IS460 will be coming, they held back production because they knew they were going to get desimated by the new m3. Should be interesting to see what Lex comes up with.

ninefourfour
10-03-2006, 09:28 AM
Well considering that the IS350 doesn't come in manual, I don't even think this is up for debate. I would have loved to own th IS350, but two factors made me by a 330i. Manual tranny, and better resale on the BMW

bigboom
10-03-2006, 10:14 AM
Originally posted by ninefourfour
Well considering that the IS350 doesn't come in manual, I don't even think this is up for debate. I would have loved to own th IS350, but two factors made me by a 330i. Manual tranny, and better resale on the BMW

lexus is working on a manual tranny...

yellowsnow
10-03-2006, 11:13 AM
Originally posted by bigboom


lexus is working on a manual tranny...

i haven't heard anything about a manual tranny on the 350... they are working on the awd IS350 though... which will probably be auto again.

the sales guy told me sales for manual trannies are very low for lexus, so that's why they didn't bother making one.

VWEvo
10-03-2006, 11:15 AM
Even if they did have a manual tranny for the is350, the resale would be junk, as most people who buy lexus buy auto's.

ICEBERG
10-03-2006, 11:17 AM
Well since i drove both, i have to go with the BMW 335. I love German Engineering. Handling and power was more impressive in the BMW. A good friend of mine just bought the is350 and he loves it. So it all depends on your preference.

Cheers,

bigboom
10-03-2006, 11:40 AM
Originally posted by yellowsnow


i haven't heard anything about a manual tranny on the 350... they are working on the awd IS350 though... which will probably be auto again.

the sales guy told me sales for manual trannies are very low for lexus, so that's why they didn't bother making one.

from what my salesman told me they are working on a manual tranny but they havent been able to develop one relaible enough for their standards but it is coming.

follows suit with the IS300...no manual until 2002.

Aleks
10-03-2006, 11:59 AM
I would think the opposite:

BMW handles better and is faster. Anyways I don't think I read one review in a magazine where a lexus beats out a bmw.

You should drive both and choose. I would definatelly go for the BMW though.

C4S
10-03-2006, 04:40 PM
Originally posted by Aleks
I would think the opposite:
BMW handles better and is faster. Anyways I don't think I read one review in a magazine where a lexus beats out a bmw.
You should drive both and choose. I would definatelly go for the BMW though.

Yeah .. you are right .. but as I remember, there was ONE test, the IS rated batter then the 3 series ... in 2000 .. compare a 328 with a IS300 ... IS300 was ~$33K US and the 328I was ~ $45K US .. up to the "price" point, 328i has higher point, but with price issue, IS300 beated the 328i by a point or 2, and like 30 more HP too. however, same month, the other magazine, tested the 325i vs IS300 .. then 325i won, and the next year, 330i came out, and was rated the best as well. I bought an IS300 back then as well, $40K cad in 2000 vs $60K for a 328i ....$20K less for IS ... but somehow, IS350 and 335i are about the same price now.
:eek:

SilverRex
10-03-2006, 06:06 PM
did I read somewhere that the new 07 335i is underrated, its 300 hp twin turbo performs closer to the current M3 at 333 hp.

so for the price. the 335i is a no brainer, however I still perfer the IS350 over the BMW because of the stylin, and dont get me wrong, the BWM is a fantastic car, however, there is too many BMW on the road. :D

BigMass
10-03-2006, 06:45 PM
Originally posted by SilverRex
did I read somewhere that the new 07 335i is underrated, its 300 hp twin turbo performs closer to the current M3 at 333 hp.

so for the price. the 335i is a no brainier, however I still prefer the IS350 over the BMW because of the styling, and dont get me wrong, the BWM is a fantastic car, however, there is too many BMW on the road. :D

exactly, i prefer the Lexus styling and interior over the BMW. One factor is that 3 series BMW's in this city are more common than Civics or Sunfires and they do nothing for me anymore styling wise. While i think the new Lexus styling is almost perfect.

Also the paddle shifters / Auto tranny is something of a selling point for me considering most of my driving is rush hour crap and driving a standard just plain annoying now. I figure the paddles will be enough fun for me on track days.

riceeater
10-03-2006, 06:52 PM
Originally posted by Mitsu3000gt
Pretty sure the 335i is significantly faster than the IS. The magazines have been hitting sub 5's with it. Also, the torque curve/power delivery is outstanding. The lexus is a great car too but I'd take the 335i any day in this case.

i only raced one IS350 from a roll in my srt4, and i found that i was pulling away from him SLOWER than i do when i trounce on M3s, so unless the 335 is close in power as the M3, i think the 350 would squeek out the win... believe me, i was very surprised by it :thumbsup: :clap:

Hoey
10-03-2006, 06:59 PM
IS350 is straight up a gorgeous car.
Lex's are :bigpimp:

Justing
10-03-2006, 07:34 PM
335 no question!
If you plan on modding it, chips are already out for it.
AND stock it performs on par with a e46 M3
:hitit:

ALBERTA_IS
10-03-2006, 07:55 PM
Originally posted by Aleks
I would think the opposite:

BMW handles better and is faster. Anyways I don't think I read one review in a magazine where a lexus beats out a bmw.

You should drive both and choose. I would definatelly go for the BMW though.

Where have you seen the BMW is faster than the IS 350? The magazines I have seen rate the cars at around 5.2 sec 0-60. Lexus does need to work on handling but the are more luxury minded than BMW so its all in what you prefer I guess.:dunno:

Alex

Altezza
10-03-2006, 08:44 PM
IS350s stock (w/ slushbox automatics) are running 13.5-13.7s in the quarter mile after disabling VDIM. That's in the same area as a 335i w/ a manual tranny. In Toronto, an IS350 pulled 13.36s @104.6mph with only an intake.

The new BMW interior/exterior styling doesn't do it for me. If the new 335i (or new M3 sedan) looked more like an e36 or e46, I'd be all over it. If the IS500 disappoints, sorry BMW, but I'll be in line for an AMG. The new 335i is a great car...but doesn't do it for me.

Aleks
10-03-2006, 08:54 PM
Originally posted by ALBERTA_IS


Where have you seen the BMW is faster than the IS 350? The magazines I have seen rate the cars at around 5.2 sec 0-60. Lexus does need to work on handling but the are more luxury minded than BMW so its all in what you prefer I guess.:dunno:

Alex

C&D reports 0-60 in the high 4s. I would be very surprised if the Lexus was indeed faster.

ALBERTA_IS
10-03-2006, 10:10 PM
Originally posted by Aleks


C&amp;D reports 0-60 in the high 4s. I would be very surprised if the Lexus was indeed faster.

I doubt they are high 4's. M3 was never high 4's and on BMW's website they are saying 5.7's which do make it slower than the IS 350. I am thinking its going to depend more on the driver than the car because it is so close. Either way nothing wrong with both cars!:hitit:

A2VR6
10-03-2006, 11:09 PM
Haven driven both, i personally like the 335i better. The brakes are better, the handling's better and in my opinion I like the ride of the BMW better. But the 335i is a bit more price wise than the Lexus still.

C4S
10-04-2006, 12:08 AM
Again, they are apply and orange ..

Even Toyota didn't set the IS350 to complete with 3 series, the new IS is more a mini GS series, and more closer to C class then 3 series.

I find the IS350 is very close to my GS400 in term of power and comfort. :D however, it is not a driver car as 3 series.

Drive both cars! see how u like it, some people like driving camry, some people like driving Ferrari ..

If auto to auto, the 335i is just slighly faster then the IS350, however, manual 335i is quite a bit faster. :D
when spending $60K .... I think $2K more or less, is not a big concern ... anyway, 335i come with 4 year FREE service.
:D

Aleks
10-04-2006, 07:10 AM
Originally posted by ALBERTA_IS


I doubt they are high 4's. M3 was never high 4's and on BMW's website they are saying 5.7's which do make it slower than the IS 350. I am thinking its going to depend more on the driver than the car because it is so close. Either way nothing wrong with both cars!:hitit:

http://www.caranddriver.com/shortroadtests/11731/2007-bmw-335i-sedan.html

4.8 seconds to 60 mph. BMW rates their cars' horesepower a little differently. Needless to say the 335i is underrated as are a lot of their products. I am sure it would be counterproductive to advertize this sedan being as quick as the current M3 coupe.

Justing
10-04-2006, 02:21 PM
Originally posted by Aleks


http://www.caranddriver.com/shortroadtests/11731/2007-bmw-335i-sedan.html

4.8 seconds to 60 mph. BMW rates their cars' horesepower a little differently. Needless to say the 335i is underrated as are a lot of their products. I am sure it would be counterproductive to advertize this sedan being as quick as the current M3 coupe.

:werd: BMW has been doing this for years.

Like i said before, the new 335 is on par with the e46 M3:eek:

OMOYYC
11-23-2006, 07:35 PM
Hey gang,

I drove both the IS350 and the 335i before I bought the 335i. The 335i is unbelievable. The torque that I have is insane. It spins the tires easily on a rolling start when it hits 3k RPM, spins the tires all the way to redline, and I got 19' 255 rubbers. Also spin the tires too on a quick shift to 2nd gear. 0-100km is amazing cuz in 2nd gear it goes over 100 even on a 6 speed. Honestly I think if this car had more power, it'd be difficult to drive wihout even larger rubbers.

I do have to agree that the IS has better interior. However, I LOVE the sports seats on the BMW. So comfy! Plus I never wanted a 4dr to begin with!

On the handling department, the BMW beats the IS easy. It's so uneven it's not even fair to compare the 2.

The upgraded sound system in the BMW is absolutely phenominal! For anyone who has heard it will know what I mean. It kills the one in the IS hands down.

I would love to race with whomever has an IS350. It'd be a good race I'm sure!

sneek
11-23-2006, 07:49 PM
drooling over a turbo BMW...what more do you want?

Doesn't BMW measure HP going to the wheels, whereas many companies measure at the flywheel?

herragge
11-23-2006, 08:11 PM
I also must go for the IS350. 335's are coming to be rampant over the roads soon; it won't have the exclusive-ness of the Lexus. Lexus reliability owns all. And did I mention that Lexus Customer Service is one of the STRONGEST points to buy a lexus? Red carpet treatment for any car in the lineup, new/used, a LEXUS car when yours is in for oil change, not some stupid cavalier rental car. Markis Levinson audio is pristine and the interior is beautiful and destroys the BMW's. E90/92 styling doesn't do it for me.

Of course, at this point the handling probably isn't on par with BMW's, but it keeps up on its own. But for modding...how can you beat twin turbo BMW?

IS350 for me please.

Mike


Originally posted by BigMass


exactly, i prefer the Lexus styling and interior over the BMW. One factor is that 3 series BMW's in this city are more common than Civics or Sunfires and they do nothing for me anymore styling wise. While i think the new Lexus styling is almost perfect.

Also the paddle shifters / Auto tranny is something of a selling point for me considering most of my driving is rush hour crap and driving a standard just plain annoying now. I figure the paddles will be enough fun for me on track days.

tictactoe2004
11-23-2006, 08:14 PM
From what i've read online, the 335 is putting out 330-350hp at the flywheel. One dyno I saw put the 335 at 288HP at the rear wheels.. Some other articles said that the M3 has a slightly faster 0-60 (0.2 seconds) but from a 30MPH rolling start the 335i was quite a bit faster... With a chip that car would be sick


:thumbsup:

:hitit: :hitit: :hitit:

HiSpec
11-23-2006, 09:37 PM
Originally posted by benyl
Lexus has made the IS into a bit of a grandpa car.

IS350 &lt; 335i

If they come out with an IS430 or and IS500, then we will talk. haha

I agree... The Altezza lights were the trademark of IS 250/300... now the new IS generation gone away from the Altezza lights... it lost its character to carry the title "IS"

which is ashame...

But at the end of the day.... you can't go wrong with either IS or 335.

guessboi
11-23-2006, 09:50 PM
335i and IS350 is both good choices.
overall slight edge to the 335i IMO. but IS is very good none tha less. :D

Zephyr
11-23-2006, 10:07 PM
Originally posted by Cwave
Hey gang,

I drove both the IS350 and the 335i before I bought the 335i. The 335i is unbelievable. The torque that I have is insane. It spins the tires easily on a rolling start when it hits 3k RPM, spins the tires all the way to redline, and I got 19' 255 rubbers. Also spin the tires too on a quick shift to 2nd gear. 0-100km is amazing cuz in 2nd gear it goes over 100 even on a 6 speed. Honestly I think if this car had more power, it'd be difficult to drive wihout even larger rubbers.

I do have to agree that the IS has better interior. However, I LOVE the sports seats on the BMW. So comfy! Plus I never wanted a 4dr to begin with!

On the handling department, the BMW beats the IS easy. It's so uneven it's not even fair to compare the 2.

The upgraded sound system in the BMW is absolutely phenominal! For anyone who has heard it will know what I mean. It kills the one in the IS hands down.

I would love to race with whomever has an IS350. It'd be a good race I'm sure!

I wooped a 335i on the fwy, dude was trying hard too. After I pulled from him, my buddy with a N/A G35 coupe ripped him a second one too...I think I'll pass on the 335i lol



Originally posted by HiSpec


I agree... The Altezza lights were the trademark of IS 250/300... now the new IS generation gone away from the Altezza lights... it lost its character to carry the title &quot;IS&quot;

which is ashame...

But at the end of the day.... you can't go wrong with either IS or 335.

Altezza and IS are two differen't cars. Worldwide it was the altezza and we had the IS300, right now it's just IS worldwide.

max_boost
11-23-2006, 10:27 PM
^^^

ORLY......I find that hard to believe. So I'll chalk it up to BMW driver didn't know how to drive his car. :D

arian_ma
11-23-2006, 10:32 PM
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/lilsalsagrl/DSC01042.jpg

Gondi Stylez
11-23-2006, 10:35 PM
i would take the IS350 anyday over the 335!

i havent driven the 335 but the IS350 is absolutley AWESOME!

most of the points of the lexus have already been made so i wont restate them.... but for me, out of all the cars i test drove in the luxury/sport category Audi and Lexus take the cake by a LONG shot....

treg50
11-23-2006, 10:36 PM
Originally posted by yellowsnow
i haven't heard anything about a manual tranny on the 350... they are working on the awd IS350 though... which will probably be auto again.

the sales guy told me sales for manual trannies are very low for lexus, so that's why they didn't bother making one.

Manuals are going way of the dinosaur :D

The Porsche 911 Turbo is faster with automatic transmission than with manual. (Click for article) (http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleDetail.aspx?ArticleID=11039&vf=10).
:clap:

IS350 or 335i, is a win-win situation BUT I'd go with the IS350 for its interior and exterior styling, fuel economy, and pricing. I'd take $3000 of the approx. $5000 price diff. and get a few nice factory options for the IS350.

Gondi Stylez
11-23-2006, 10:41 PM
and as u can see from the E90 front bumper BMW copied Audi's headlight washing mechanism! :rofl: how original!

hahaha but in all honesty, either way both a great cars!

Justing
11-23-2006, 10:48 PM
Originally posted by max_boost
^^^

ORLY......I find that hard to believe. So I'll chalk it up to BMW driver didn't know how to drive his car. :D


:werd: It's VERY VERY safe to assume that the BMW driver didn't know how to drive. Cuz srsly...:dunno:

me&you
11-23-2006, 11:07 PM
Originally posted by Gondi Stylez
i would take the IS350 anyday over the 335!

i havent driven the 335 but the IS350 is absolutley AWESOME!

...

Drive one, then talk.

From,

Your friend that's driven both extensively and would take the 335!

PS - Yeah to everyone that hasn't driven or owned either for their opinions!

Gondi Stylez
11-23-2006, 11:47 PM
^^ actually i planned on doing it this weekend... if i do then ill post my comments... but from driving an M3 i can safely assume that the 335 is more of a drivers car (As stated earlier) but IMHO that is where it ends with BMWs....there is only so much power u can give me w/o giving me the rest of the package which inlcude, interior/exterior styling (albiet subjective), cost, customer service, etc...

BMW is only a name, just like MB which is why i will hold to my prediction that come 3-5 maybe more but under 7-10 years Audi and Lexus will be the staples of high end luxury sport....

lexus is already considered a teri 1 luxury car and its only a matter of time before audi gets the title... and if the new lexus ls 460 and the audi r8, rs4, a8 are any indications then this should be happening sooner rather than later...maybe it already has

quoted from wikipedia:

Currently, Audi's sales are growing strongly in Europe, and the company is still renowned for having among the best build quality of any mainstream auto manufacturer [citation needed]. 2004 marked the 11th straight increase in sales, selling 779,441 vehicles worldwide. Record figures were recorded from 21 out of about 50 major sales markets. The largest sales increases came from Eastern Europe (+19.3%), Africa (+17.2%) and the Middle East (+58.5%) [citation needed]. In March of 2005, Audi is building its first two dealerships in India following its high increase in sales in the region.

OMOYYC
11-24-2006, 12:15 AM
Originally posted by Zephyr


I wooped a 335i on the fwy, dude was trying hard too. After I pulled from him, my buddy with a N/A G35 coupe ripped him a second one too...I think I'll pass on the 335i lol


It sounds to me the 335i wasn't trying. There is not a chance the G35 coupe would even come close to the 335i. My 330ci was a close race with the G35 coupe. Even the new 328 should beat the G35 coupe.

OMOYYC
11-24-2006, 11:09 AM
Originally posted by max_boost
^^^

ORLY......I find that hard to believe. So I'll chalk it up to BMW driver didn't know how to drive his car. :D

Or he hasn't broken in his car and couldn't punch it.

Altezza
11-24-2006, 01:49 PM
Originally posted by Cwave

The upgraded sound system in the BMW is absolutely phenominal! For anyone who has heard it will know what I mean. It kills the one in the IS hands down.



While I agree that the upgraded BMW system sounds better than the base system in the IS, the upgraded Mark Levinson sound system in the IS is notably better.

Altezza
11-24-2006, 01:56 PM
Hmm.....I just came across this. Not exactly a 335i....but nice fenders :)

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l69/ase2dais/sgme1.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l69/ase2dais/sgme5.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l69/ase2dais/sgme4.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l69/ase2dais/sgme2.jpg

benyl
11-24-2006, 02:18 PM
ooooo nice!

Zephyr
11-24-2006, 06:51 PM
Originally posted by Cwave


It sounds to me the 335i wasn't trying. There is not a chance the G35 coupe would even come close to the 335i. My 330ci was a close race with the G35 coupe. Even the new 328 should beat the G35 coupe.

actually he was, he was pissed off at my buddy LOL he didnt care too much about me but when he saw a G35 pulling on him he wasnt too happy. he followed after my friend for quite some time after

OMOYYC
11-24-2006, 06:57 PM
Originally posted by Zephyr


actually he was, he was pissed off at my buddy LOL he didnt care too much about me but when he saw a G35 pulling on him he wasnt too happy. he followed after my friend for quite some time after

Interesting.. we should get together for a drag sometime..(when it's not so friggin cold and when the roads are all dry) I'm curious now.

Do you have 19"s?

Chester
11-24-2006, 07:27 PM
He lives in Cali.:eek:

Justing
11-24-2006, 07:59 PM
Originally posted by Chester
He lives in Cali.:eek:

lol, so just drive all the way down to pwn him. Although it wouldn't be worth the trip since the outcome is obvious. :drama:

OMOYYC
11-24-2006, 09:57 PM
Originally posted by Justing


lol, so just drive all the way down to pwn him. Although it wouldn't be worth the trip since the outcome is obvious. :drama:

Obvious which way?

JordanLotoski
11-24-2006, 10:15 PM
Originally posted by T78Supra1
Just wanted to know what some of you guys thought.

All i know is that the is350 handles better and has a better reliability and is just as fast.

Which one do you think is the better car and Why?


the is350 does not handle better then the bmw....i test drove both before buying my 330i and the bmw to me was a far better handling car.

not to mention a way better looking sedan.....
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/2881/picture785be1.jpg

HiSpec
11-25-2006, 02:29 AM
Originally posted by Zephyr

Altezza and IS are two differen't cars. Worldwide it was the altezza and we had the IS300, right now it's just IS worldwide.

I thought Altezza is the IS200.... i guess i'm wrong haha

Justing
11-25-2006, 12:25 PM
Originally posted by Cwave


Obvious which way?

335i > is350... i thought that was obvious haha.

Zephyr
11-25-2006, 07:32 PM
Originally posted by HiSpec


I thought Altezza is the IS200.... i guess i'm wrong haha

the Lexus brand is now worldwide. There is a IS220D i think and in some countries it's still IS300 but with the new styling.


Originally posted by Justing


335i &gt; is350... i thought that was obvious haha.

Obvious how so?

Handling: 335i Wins
Interior Styling: IS350 Wins
Power: Equal
Sound System: IS350 Wins
Exterior Styling: Most magazines prefer the IS350, but that's really up to tastes
Reliability: IS350 Wins

and once the M3 is out, we have the IS-F to take care of that one too, this time with way better suspension.

herragge
11-25-2006, 09:18 PM
^^^^Yeah its obvious. Winner for Lexus.

The only category the Bimmer takes is handling for sure. Leaving styling out of the equation, the lexus makes sense, the reliability, interior and sound are phenomenal and the BMW can't compete in these regards.

Factor in styling now and the Lexus pulls far away from the 335. Very inspired styling and imo, the 335i and the e90 in general is a very unpassionate design imo.

I am a BMW guy, and I am disappointed with the 335 besides the engine and the great handling BMW provides.

Mike

Zephyr
11-25-2006, 09:39 PM
Originally posted by herragge
^^^^Yeah its obvious. Winner for Lexus.

The only category the Bimmer takes is handling for sure. Leaving styling out of the equation, the lexus makes sense, the reliability, interior and sound are phenomenal and the BMW can't compete in these regards.

Factor in styling now and the Lexus pulls far away from the 335. Very inspired styling and imo, the 335i and the e90 in general is a very unpassionate design imo.

I am a BMW guy, and I am disappointed with the 335 besides the engine and the great handling BMW provides.

Mike

yup! 335i is impressive with the inline 6 with two snails and it's handling to go with it, but seriously everything else is old. styling is ok, i prefer the older front ends but i like the new backend.

A2VR6
11-26-2006, 01:20 AM
Originally posted by herragge
^^^^Yeah its obvious. Winner for Lexus.

The only category the Bimmer takes is handling for sure. Leaving styling out of the equation, the lexus makes sense, the reliability, interior and sound are phenomenal and the BMW can't compete in these regards.

Factor in styling now and the Lexus pulls far away from the 335. Very inspired styling and imo, the 335i and the e90 in general is a very unpassionate design imo.

I am a BMW guy, and I am disappointed with the 335 besides the engine and the great handling BMW provides.

Mike

you forgot to mention that the backseat in the IS350 is pretty much useless... theres barely any room back there. That was the biggest concern for my dad when he was looking at it. Its a shame, because he was all ready to get one since he absolutly loves the car but he couldnt over look the back seat.

Gondi Stylez
11-26-2006, 04:45 AM
^^ when i looked the is250/350 the back seat wasn't HUGE but it was decent... not any smaller than my audi:dunno:

Hollywood
12-14-2006, 07:13 PM
You guys are forgetting 1 factor. MODS. Mod wise bang for the buck 335i > is350.

dino_martini
12-14-2006, 07:46 PM
Originally posted by Hollywood
You guys are forgetting 1 factor. MODS. Mod wise bang for the buck 335i &gt; is350.

But how many will be mod'd?

I would take IS350. it looks better imo, plus how many 3 series coupes will be bought in calgary? alot, so unless people know "oh yea, 335..twin turbo I6." They will think, "boring old 3 series coupe".

OMOYYC
12-15-2006, 12:05 AM
Originally posted by Zephyr

Sound System: IS350 Wins


I beg to differ..

smontyLS1
12-15-2006, 12:17 AM
I can't stand the lexus a-pillar, I just seemed right in the way, I would have to go bmw on this one. no question I would take a twin-turbo bmw platform over a new IS. the lexus just isn't aggresive enough.

me&you
12-15-2006, 10:07 AM
Originally posted by smontyLS1
I can't stand the lexus a-pillar, I just seemed right in the way, I would have to go bmw on this one. no question I would take a twin-turbo bmw platform over a new IS. the lexus just isn't aggresive enough.

Excellent point!!!!

Samething bothers me... you can argue until you're blue-in-the-face about 0-60s and stereos (I think BMW is better in both ;)),but it's this type of thing that really makes you love or hate a car.

Everything about the Lexus is nice, but not quite "right" in the same way as the BMW