Spitting ban

[googe]

:rofl: Its illegal to spit in Calgary now? Thats just ridiculous.

Soon you will get tickets for having bad breath, or nonmatching socks.

[TC2002]

Where did you hear this?

[googe]

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20061102.BEHAVIOUR02/TPStory/National

[finboy]

IIRC there was always a bylaw against spitting on the sidewalk, it was just never enforced :dunno:

[Ajay]

Yah there was was a big article on this in the Herald today.

Interesting that it's $100 for spitting, $250 for soliciting but it's only $50 for carrying a knife.

[FiveFreshFish]

That's fine with me because people spit too much on the street anyway.

[ogpog]

Originally posted by Ajay
Yah there was was a big article on this in the Herald today.

Interesting that it's $100 for spitting, $250 for soliciting but it's only $50 for carrying a knife.

The first two things pose interference to other civilians. Simply carrying a knife in your pocket does not.

[TC2002]

HA HA HA! Thanks for the link. Wow. Priorities, eh? So where does the money go to? Another raise? *skeptical* :rolleyes:

[Kaos]

Spitting is gross but getting a ticket for doing it.
Another way to get money for the city!!!
ROCK ON!!
http://smiliesftw.com/x/turbogfight.gif

[doublepostwhore]

I think carrying a knife is far, FAR more important for civilians then spitting.

It may be gross, and all around not a very good habit, but it is definetly something I could put up with if people were unable to carry knifes.

[ogpog]

Originally posted by doublepostwhore
I think carrying a knife is far, FAR more important for civilians then spitting.

It may be gross, and all around not a very good habit, but it is definetly something I could put up with if people were unable to carry knifes.

The thing is, I couldve walked by a hundred people downtown today who had knives in there pocket, but not once did any of them pose a threat to me. I never even saw one knife. Now if every single person on the street spat infront of me, and there were 20 teens soliciting outside of every store, i would have probably had quite a shitty walk.

The way I see it, dont piss people off, and you wont get stabbed.

[FiveFreshFish]

So you won't be able to have a keychain Swiss Army knife on your keychain anymore?

http://images.mec.ca/media/Images/Products/KnivesTools/4008005s_v1_m56577569830474911.jpg

[silver_gs-R]

wow this has to be the stupidest law i have ever heard of.

[88CRX]

How the hell are they going to enforce this?

[szw]

Originally posted by 88CRX
How the hell are they going to enforce this?

The same way any other bylaw is enforced?

[sexualbanana]

Can't you get caned or prison time in Singapore for spitting?

[[GaGe]]

Originally posted by Ajay
Yah there was was a big article on this in the Herald today.

Interesting that it's $100 for spitting, $250 for soliciting but it's only $50 for carrying a knife.

just wondering is it $50 for carrying any knife, or an illegal knife?

[VW02]

Originally posted by sexualbanana
Can't you get caned or prison time in Singapore for spitting?

Yea you get owned for spitting in signapore. Even gum is banned from that place.

[Supa Dexta]

Originally posted by [GaGe]


just wondering is it $50 for carrying any knife, or an illegal knife?

just a visable knife I believe it is..

and putting your foot up on a bench? Its listed right along side public urination.. I can see if you had mud all over your foot, or dog shit, but what harm does a foot on a bench do.. Now where am I gonna do my pushups!

http://www.momentumsports.co.uk/media/images/VideoStills/MKBFeetChairPressUp.jpg

[Darkane]

Whats wrong with this law? I think its good. People aren't civil anymore, no manners, I mean for the love of God I was eating breakfast this morning in the SAIT Four Nines Cafeteria and people were holding forks and knives like they were preparing to jam them into the table. Lightly hold your utencils with the tips of your fingers, not the palms of your hands.

[hussein]

Wow, I will definetly take a look around next time I discard any spit. :rofl:

[szw]

Originally posted by Darkane
Whats wrong with this law? I think its good. People aren't civil anymore, no manners, I mean for the love of God I was eating breakfast this morning in the SAIT Four Nines Cafeteria and people were holding forks and knives like they were preparing to jam them into the table. Lightly hold your utencils with the tips of your fingers, not the palms of your hands.

Why do you hate freedom

[l8braker]

Sounds like a good idea. Nothing worse than walking down the road and see a gob of spit on the ground :barf:

Funny thing is that the trashy types that do that won't be able to pay the fines.

[doublepostwhore]

What happens if you have a cold/flu and you have an accumulation of mucus in your throat, and you try to extricate it from your mouth? Why should it be illegal for me to rid myself of germ ladden fluid?

Is it soon going to be illegal to cough/sneeze? That poses more of a threat as it's air borne germs, rather then composed and controlled luggie disposal.

Dont get me wrong spitting is disgusting esp. when you walk down the street and a dude walking the opposite way spits in our common path; then I COULD have been hit by the offender. Thats gross.

From a feasability and practicallity standpoint if they enforce this, its a waste of man power. We arent anything like signapore, we dont have nearly as much reason to be fearful of prosecution or the man power to control it.

They are putting spitting in the same category as speeding, speed kills, spit does not. Well maybe appetite.

[lilmira]

The punishment for spitting should be to clean the street up for a day of two. That will teach you a lesson.
100 bucks ain't anything to a lot of people nowadays. Being a street cleaner in public would be quite a punishment to most people. It doesn't matter if the person has money or not.

The punishment for putting your foot on a bench? uh, you'll be a bench for a day or two to let the others to rest their stinky feet on. :D

[Zero102]

I see the point for people who stand out front of a building smoking and spitting all day. I work with a few people like that, and it makes 8-10 feet of sidewalk on either side of the doors absolutely disgusting. But, if an insect flies into your mouth.... you can be certain that I would be spitting!

[googe]

Originally posted by Darkane
Whats wrong with this law? I think its good. People aren't civil anymore, no manners, I mean for the love of God I was eating breakfast this morning in the SAIT Four Nines Cafeteria and people were holding forks and knives like they were preparing to jam them into the table. Lightly hold your utencils with the tips of your fingers, not the palms of your hands.

i really hope this is sarcasm. you cant seriously give a shit how someone holds their spoon?


Originally posted by l8braker
Sounds like a good idea. Nothing worse than walking down the road and see a gob of spit on the ground :barf:


when did calgary turn into such a whiney bunch of girls?

[Bushy]

I think the laws ok. Last time i was on the c-train some guy was blowing his nose all over the floor. And i highly doubt the cops are gana stop and ticket every person they see spit. It propably just gives them another excuse to stop and question people of interest.

[rage2]

haha live with it kids. First it's smoking at pubs, now it's putting feet up in fucking public. Whats next? Honking will be banned cuz it's rude? How about gum being banned like in Singapore?

Hey if you think it's more than OK to give up one freedom, you shouldn't be whining about this! It makes it better, progress right? :rolleyes:

[Supa Dexta]

I was kind of thinking these things over, and wondered to myself, what sort of limits do they impose on us..?

Say for instance I wanted to eat a cat, or chase a squirrel in the park and then eat him (I don't, but play along) This would actually be illegle wouldn't it? or is it just frowned upon? I don't know for sure if it is against the law (Say I owned the cat), but how could it be? Now I know people will argue about how we're civilzed now, etc.. But if this was yrs ago, and I liked the taste of cats and squirrles, how can they tell me i can't eat one, we were animals at one time, and many people still are.... Know what I'm saying? I can see how they limit drugs and whatnot, because of the effects, but eating something they think is wrong? Some people think eating cows is wrong, but 10's of thousands of them get killed everyday, in alberta alone...

:dunno:

ps, I wans't even high while I thought this up...

[Aleks]

First law against public defecation now this? :banghead:

Way to take all the fun away from the ordinary guy.

[BigMass]

countdown 5 years to "Equilibrium type" society lol. And nobody gives a fuck.

Was just reading yesterday on yahoo how Britain tops the world in "Big Brother" type measures. Everyday of your life you’re on a camera 300 times. Police enforcing laws against speech, thought and banning books.

We are starting to make courtesy and manners into laws. Making laws on the way people think and act. The way society is going with this is about the most disturbing thing I can think of. Much more so than any terror threat from Al Qaeda that I can imagine. And the funny thing is people don’t care and even welcome it. What sick animals we are.

[rage2]

Originally posted by BigMass
We are starting to make courtesy and manners into laws. Making laws on the way people think and act. The way society is going with this is about the most disturbing thing I can think of. Much more so than any terror threat from Al Qaeda that I can imagine. And the funny thing is people don’t care and even welcome it. What sick animals we are.
It's because everyone is selfish, and has a "me me me" mentality. If they get something that benefits them, they'll fight hard for it without realizing that they've given up their own controls and freedoms to the government to get rid of things that are a nuisance. It's all good till something affects them negatively, then they whine, but then it's too late because it's accepted for the government to make all these rules to force us all to, like you said, think and act a certain way.

[lilmira]

Freedom doesn't mean you can do whatever you want without consideration of the others. Yes, we don't need laws to control everything we do everyday but without rules we would turn into animals. It's all about balance.
Decency and common sense seems to be lost art these days. How many times have you seen people acting like a fool because they have no idea in how to live in a society? You have to wonder sometimes if we are pushing the lawmaker to have more control on us or the lawmaker trying to have more control over us?
If we all can act decent with common sense, we wouldn't need many laws and regulations.

[rage2]

Originally posted by lilmira
Freedom doesn't mean you can do whatever you want without consideration of the others. Yes, we don't need laws to control everything we do everyday but without rules we would turn into animals. It's all about balance.
Decency and common sense seems to be lost art these days. How many times have you seen people acting like a fool because they have no idea in how to live in a society?
Thanks for proving my point. What gives YOU the right to decide what's decent and common sense for everyone else? Just because you don't like it doesn't mean the entire population doesn't like it.

You feel it's OK to remove minority groups by creating laws to restrict the minorities because it annoys the majority. They did the same thing many years ago, it was called segregation. That is not progress.

[rage2]

Loitering in a public place or obstructing someone would cost $250.
haha, you know we can all be fined for going to a beyond meet at chinook. That's loitering. Curious what that obstructing someone is... does that mean I can get a bylaw officer to fine someone $250 for holding an elevator door open to finish a converation with someone not going on the elevator? That happens everyday in my building at work.

[lilmira]

Originally posted by rage2

Thanks for proving my point. What gives YOU the right to decide what's decent and common sense for everyone else? Just because you don't like it doesn't mean the entire population doesn't like it.

You feel it's OK to remove minority groups by creating laws to restrict the minorities because it annoys the majority. They did the same thing many years ago, it was called segregation. That is not progress.

You are very welcome.

Again, it's all about balance. Yes, laws and regulations can be used to target a certain group of people in the society although they should be fair and unbiased. That's when democracy comes to play. That's why we here to express our opinion.

At the end of the day, if we all feel that's ok to spit and urinate in public. That's really nothing they can do.

[VW02]

Originally posted by rage2

You feel it's OK to remove minority groups by creating laws to restrict the minorities because it annoys the majority. They did the same thing many years ago

That why they put natives on the reserves

[69cougar]

Like every law out there it comes down to officer discretion.
99% of Calgararians will probably never be bothered by this bylaw.

[Slashin_]

they should probaly enforce something more usful then hiding in the bush to see if ur spitting.....like seriosly if a bug flew in my mouth and i cant spit?....spiting is disgusting but certain times its needed.

[GTS Jeff]

Originally posted by VW02


Yea you get owned for spitting in signapore. Even gum is banned from that place.

Have you ever been there? Gum is not banned there.

Originally posted by szw


Why do you hate freedom

Personal freedoms are only valid so long as they do not infringe upon others' personal freedoms.

Originally posted by doublepostwhore
We arent anything like signapore

That's funny, I thought Singapore was pretty damn close to having a "Canadian" feel for an Asian country. Singapore is pretty much what Canada would be with way more money, way more asians, a bit more socialism, and a bit less spitting.

I can't believe you guys are all pooh-poohing this new law. Are you that damn native street kid at the bus stop that spits once every 2.4 minutes? Or are you a mainlander?

[khtm]

Originally posted by Darkane
Whats wrong with this law? I think its good. People aren't civil anymore, no manners, I mean for the love of God I was eating breakfast this morning in the SAIT Four Nines Cafeteria and people were holding forks and knives like they were preparing to jam them into the table. Lightly hold your utencils with the tips of your fingers, not the palms of your hands.
For the love of the Devil, please build a time machine and move back to 1840.

[rage2]

Originally posted by GTS Jeff
I can't believe you guys are all pooh-poohing this new law. Are you that damn native street kid at the bus stop that spits once every 2.4 minutes? Or are you a mainlander?
What about putting your feet up on park or bus benches? haha seriously, that's pretty stupid. Mainlanders will have a LOT of problems with that one! :rofl:

I'm still trying to figure out what "obstruction" means. $250 for that one haha.

[lilmira]

Originally posted by Slashin_
they should probaly enforce something more usful then hiding in the bush to see if ur spitting.....like seriosly if a bug flew in my mouth and i cant spit?....spiting is disgusting but certain times its needed.

Yes, lately, a lot of people have been having problem with bugs flying into their mouths and therefore spitting all over the place.

Seriously, it happened to me once though when I was jogging. I was breathing in when the little bugger either flew in or got sucked into my mouth. I think it hit my front teeth quite hard. And yes, I spit it out. :D

[rage2]

haha that happened to me about 3x this year, but I bike a lot in the summer (to and from work). Whenever it happens, its like insane spitting... more like spewing. Drink water, rinse, and spew from coughing haha. I hate bugs :rofl:.

[rage2]

Originally posted by GTS Jeff
Have you ever been there? Gum is not banned there.
Have you ever been there? Only "medical" gums, such as nicorette, are allowed. And to buy it you need a prescription from a doctor or a dentist and only available at pharmacies. This was 2 years ago, and the only reason it was revised was because of the free trade agreement with the US.

I wouldn't call it "not banned" lol.

[Lo)2enz0]

i can see why its banned. but i will admitt that right now since i am sick there is no way i am going to swollow whats coming up

[lilmira]

Originally posted by Lo)2enz0
i can see why its banned. but i will admitt that right now since i am sick there is no way i am going to swollow whats coming up

I would like to send you a box of Kleenex.

[Lo)2enz0]

lol i have already gone threw one. but i would appreciate that

quiting smoking + being sick is the worst. your lungs are trying to get rid of all those chemicals and well its hard to describe

[lilmira]

My advice, don't mix up the used Kleenex with wonton soup. :barf:

[Cruz]

It think that spitting looks terrible, especially when girls do it. I am referring to both the act itself and the resulting product. +1 for the ban :thumbsup:

As far as girls go, +1 for swallowing ;)

[Rockski]

This is the biggest heap of horse shit ive ever heard of. what aboot if i have a nice big dip in (red man) and i have to spit? swallow that shit long enough and your gonna puke. so would "the man"wrather i spit ever couple minutes or would he wrather i save it all up and throw down a huge pudlle of vomit ever half hour?



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Originally posted by GTS Jeff


. Are you that damn native street kid at the bus stop that spits once every 2.4 minutes? Or are you a mainlander?

im that native kid if he was white and it was every 1.80 minutes

[spike98]

Next time im in calgary i am going to have a smoke while jaywalking the i am going spit on the sidewalk.


Fawk there is a like of whiney people around.

[lilmira]

Originally posted by spike98
Next time im in calgary i am going to have a smoke while jaywalking the i am going spit on the sidewalk.


Fawk there is a like of whiney people around.

Wow, when did you learn multi-tasking? We are all really impressed. :thumbsup:

[spike98]

Originally posted by lilmira


Wow, when did you learn multi-tasking? We are all really impressed. :thumbsup:

thanks

[EK 2.0]

no public unrination??


uh oh...buh_buh is gonna be PISSED...hahaha...;)

[nos_efx]

Forget spitting!!!

They should have a fine for bad breath lol :thumbsup: :rofl: Its the worse riding the c-train with some douche breathing his bad breath on you the entire way.....


No No No, they need tickets for people who fart in public. Can't tell you how many times I run into someone who just let one rip and it feels like I just had shit thrown in my face :barf: :barf: :barf:

[googe]

Originally posted by Cruz
It think that spitting looks terrible, especially when girls do it. I am referring to both the act itself and the resulting product. +1 for the ban :thumbsup:

As far as girls go, +1 for swallowing ;)

i think you look terrible. +1 for ban! :thumbsup:

(not actually a personal attack, just making a point)

[GTS Jeff]

Originally posted by rage2

Have you ever been there? Only "medical" gums, such as nicorette, are allowed. And to buy it you need a prescription from a doctor or a dentist and only available at pharmacies. This was 2 years ago, and the only reason it was revised was because of the free trade agreement with the US.

I wouldn't call it "not banned" lol.

Well as a smoker, you are in the clear!

The Singapore government allows Nicorette so that it can help smokers quit smoking, thereby improving their health, more specifically, decreasing their risk of developing respiratory infection, and ever having to spit up phlegm in the first place! Damn smokers. :rofl:

Originally posted by EK 2.0
no public unrination??


uh oh...buh_buh is gonna be PISSED...hahaha...;)

HAHAHHAHA that's a pretty good pic..a little creepy though.

[FiveFreshFish]

Some interesting reading on the gum ban in Singapore.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chewing_gum_ban_in_Singapore

[nhlfan]

Originally posted by FiveFreshFish
Some interesting reading on the gum ban in Singapore.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chewing_gum_ban_in_Singapore

so only juicy fruit is legal? interesting

[Toma]

Originally posted by rage2

It's because everyone is selfish, and has a "me me me" mentality. .....

LOL... ah yes, but isn't that what western society is built on? I think they call it capitalism ;)

If we were concerned about others, we would be looked down upon and called socialists ;)

[01RedDX]

.

[Rockski]

Originally posted by EK 2.0
no public unrination??


uh oh...buh_buh is gonna be PISSED...hahaha...;)

thats a 260$ ticket up here in E town

[dodger97]

Originally posted by lilmira


At the end of the day, if we all feel that's ok to spit and urinate in public. That's really nothing they can do.


Obviously there is something they can do...make a bylaw that makes the action illegal...whether you are found culpable is another issue.:guns:

[EK 2.0]

Originally posted by Rockski
thats a 260$ ticket up here in E town


well the pic is from a long time ago...but it's one of buh_buh's favourite pasttimes...haha...

[lilmira]

Originally posted by dodger97



Obviously there is something they can do...make a bylaw that makes the action illegal...whether you are found culpable is another issue.:guns:

Imagine the majority of the population start spitting whenever and wherever they feel like for whatever reason, there is really nothing they can do, can't they? How many people can they ticket? If that happens, the by-law will be useless because spitting is accepted by the majority.

They cannot just make a by-law without a valid reason.

The question is how acceptable are these actions (spitting, feet on bench...) by the general public.

[Cruz]

Originally posted by googe


i think you look terrible. +1 for ban! :thumbsup:

(not actually a personal attack, just making a point)

In the words of Tony Montana: "Why don't you try stickin your head up your ass. See if it fits."

(not actually a personal attack, just a rebuttal)

[szw]

Originally posted by lilmira


Imagine the majority of the population start spitting whenever and wherever they feel like for whatever reason, there is really nothing they can do, can't they? How many people can they ticket? If that happens, the by-law will be useless because spitting is accepted by the majority.

They cannot just make a by-law without a valid reason.

The question is how acceptable are these actions (spitting, feet on bench...) by the general public.

This is retarded. Everyone could just decide to murder someone too, they can't catch all of us.

[lilmira]

Originally posted by szw


This is retarded. Everyone could just decide to murder someone too, they can't catch all of us.

Yes, it is true if the entire population decide to just go out and kill each other there is really nothing you can do. But why would we? Why would anyone just go out and murder anyone for no reason? You don't see animals just go out and kill each other and I'm sure they know nothing about laws.
You don't just go out and do random acts, do you? I don't read all the laws and regulations to figure out what I should and shouldn't do. Do you?
Are we so stupid now that we need someone to tell us what we should or shouldn't do on every single little thing? I guess some of us are.

[eljefe]

Originally posted by lilmira


Imagine the majority of the population start spitting whenever and wherever they feel like for whatever reason, there is really nothing they can do, can't they? How many people can they ticket? If that happens, the by-law will be useless because spitting is accepted by the majority.

They cannot just make a by-law without a valid reason.

The question is how acceptable are these actions (spitting, feet on bench...) by the general public.

:rolleyes:

[dragonone]

i think it's extremely difficult to enforce something like that
laws like this are popular in asia where they have bylaw officers patrol crowded streets, throwing cigarette buts, spitting (even in the trash can since it evaporates in the air), spitting gum etc.

think the last time i spat in public was.... i don't remember
just my 2 cents

[sexualbanana]

Originally posted by Rockski
This is the biggest heap of horse shit ive ever heard of. what aboot if i have a nice big dip in (red man) and i have to spit? swallow that shit long enough and your gonna puke. so would "the man"wrather i spit ever couple minutes or would he wrather i save it all up and throw down a huge pudlle of vomit ever half hour?

What do you when you chew indoors? Do you spit onto your carpet/floor? Spit into a bottle that you can throw out. It's a lot less disgusting than spitting on the ground, which is basically the intention of this law, imp. It's not that you can't spit, it's that you can't spit when it could offend someone or it could make a mess.

If you're jogging, playing sports, etc on a field and you spit, it's not that bad and it's not that offensive.

If you're downtown during the lunch hour and you spit onto the sidewalk or the road, it's considerably more offensive and the spit stays on the ground until it; a) evaporates, or b) gets stepped on by another person, which is more likely.

[VW02]

Originally posted by GTS Jeff


Have you ever been there? Gum is not banned there.




Guess I was right. :D :D

[iceburns288]

Glad this doesn't affect me. As a baseball player I got into a major habit of spitting and I do it alll the time. At least I'm respectful about it though. I don't spit on sidewalks or on the middle of roads or anything. What I do is I am for the corner of the ground where it meets the wall. I have pretty good aim so I can usually hit right where the wall meets the ground and it's not noticable in the least and no one for sure steps there.