Chinese copy cars

[calstar]

Man i hate all these car companies in China copying designs..this one has got to be the worst..

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/industry/rule-change-for-mileage-estimates-will-see-rates-drop-in-the-us/


If i was lexus and at that show i would be so pissed

[rc2002]

They've been doing this for years. Always higher end luxury cars too...

[Crymson]

That link shows me something about the EPA changing mileage calculations?

[ogpog]

Originally posted by Crymson
That link shows me something about the EPA changing mileage calculations? :werd:
Where is the right link?

[azndragon1234]

Originally posted by Crymson
That link shows me something about the EPA changing mileage calculations?

:werd:

[jasonrx-7]

:werd:

[Xtrema]

I think he meant this link:

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/odds-and-ends/another-chinese-copy-the-byd-f8/

[Orbie]

Originally posted by Xtrema
I think he meant this link:

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/odds-and-ends/another-chinese-copy-the-byd-f8/

No I don't think he was referring to this link, he's talking about a Chinese car that looks like a Lexus at some auto show. Although the above does illustrate the fact that that BYD company will stop at nothing to rip off other manufacturer's designs!

Edit: Maybe this link? :dunno:
http://www.motorauthority.com/news/concept-cars/jianghuai%e2%80%99s-vision-is-clouded-by-lexus-logo/

[ZorroAMG]

Wow...asian copycats are fucking lame. From cars to handbags, get a life, will ya?

[Rockski]

fuckbags :thumbsdow

[Sprinter]

Originally posted by Orbie


No I don't think he was referring to this link, he's talking about a Chinese car that looks like a Lexus at some auto show. Although the above does illustrate the fact that that BYD company will stop at nothing to rip off other manufacturer's designs!

Edit: Maybe this link? :dunno:
http://www.motorauthority.com/news/concept-cars/jianghuai%e2%80%99s-vision-is-clouded-by-lexus-logo/

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[riceeater]

they got no taste either... even straight up copying requires skill and style and they got none :rolleyes: they just bunched together a bunch of nice bits off other cars, and made a dog's breakfast out of it..

[EnRich]

its business right... If they can copy a car, sell it for thousands less, why not. I'd do it. I mean c'mon we're all out to make that buck, this is how the chinesse are doin it. and by the looks of it, their doin a pretty good job. Nasty little bugga's...

[liquidboi69]

Originally posted by ZorroAMG
Wow...asian copycats are fucking lame. From cars to handbags, get a life, will ya?

Btw, Lexus is Japanese a.k.a. Asian. So plz dont refer to all chinese as Asians buddy :P But back on topic, Pretty lame how they just turned that L around hahah....

[harley11]

so couldn't we but a no-name lexus for thousands less and ship here?

[ZorroAMG]

Originally posted by liquidboi69


Btw, Lexus is Japanese a.k.a. Asian. So plz dont refer to all chinese as Asians buddy :P But back on topic, Pretty lame how they just turned that L around hahah....

:confused: :dunno:

[Rav4Guy]

liquidboi must not be Chinese... must be..... flip?

[nismodrifter]

Originally posted by ZorroAMG


:confused: :dunno:

:rofl: :rofl:
Sorry but not only are all Chinese asians but all Indians, sri lankans etc are asian too.

:rofl:

[Rav4Guy]

^ must be... brown?

[nismodrifter]

http://dhsonline.org/jesse/images/newyears0013.jpg

no... thats me^^

Heres another pic of me when im feeling gangster:
http://www.seanmulholland.com/arc/images/m4247323-4669-small.jpg

I'm in the back, you can just barely see my head.
Be sure to say Hi if you see me at a meet

[snowboard]

HAHAHA nice
what are yah buildin there nismo :rolleyes:

[nismodrifter]

I was building parts for my replica HUmmer!!

http://auto.tom.com/autoimg/upload_dir/1809/1152783717_22817.jpg
http://auto.tom.com/autoimg/upload_dir/1809/1152783717_67742.jpg
http://auto.tom.com/autoimg/upload_dir/1809/1152783708_41139.jpg
http://auto.tom.com/autoimg/upload_dir/1809/1152779328_15293.jpg
http://auto.tom.com/autoimg/upload_dir/1809/1152779328_11564.jpg
http://auto.tom.com/autoimg/upload_dir/1809/1152783611_75148.jpg
http://auto.tom.com/autoimg/upload_dir/1809/1152783649_55927.jpg
http://auto.tom.com/autoimg/upload_dir/1809/1152783649_96686.jpg

Notice the smoke, I guess they are using replica engines too:D

[nismodrifter]

http://www.globalautoindex.com/images/news/1622/norm_1_orig.jpg
http://www.globalautoindex.com/images/news/1622/norm_2_orig.jpg
the Gwperi:
http://www.globalautoindex.com/images/news/1622/norm_5_orig.jpg
http://www.globalautoindex.com/images/news/1622/norm_6_orig.jpg
and the just a little more unique Florid:
http://www.globalautoindex.com/images/news/1622/norm_4_orig.jpg
http://www.globalautoindex.com/images/news/1622/norm_3_orig.jpg

[nismodrifter]

Baolong
http://www.baolong.com.cn/baolong/ImagesProduct/5045-2.gif

BYD
http://www.bydauto.com.cn/ver2/car/f3/ceshi2.jpg
http://auto.tom.com/uimg/2006/11/18/wuyou/4_33918.jpg

Dadi
http://www.dadi-auto.ru/catalog/img/731455507.jpg
http://www.dadi-auto.ru/catalog/img/904363838.jpeg

Shenyang Brillaince auto:
http://www.zhonghuacar.com/junjie/hdtd/images/08.jpg
http://www.zhonghuacar.com/junjie/hdtd/images/07.jpg
http://www.zhonghuacar.com/junjie/hdtd/images/12.jpg

[nismodrifter]

Mercedes Sl front + BMW Badge + Renault Mégane CC:

http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/7357/bydf8500hu0.jpg
http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/9071/bydf81500ox2.jpg
http://cn.autoblog.com/images/2006/11/DSC2456.jpg
http://www.autoblog.com/media/2006/11/dsc09532.jpg

BMW X5 + ...

http://news.chinacars.com/images_test/shichebaogao/200642814691.jpg
http://news.chinacars.com/images_test/shichebaogao/200642814692.jpg
http://news.chinacars.com/images_test/shichebaogao/200642814693.jpg


http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=2937283&page=1
There was a thread on vortex about this haha. These cars are so funny

[liquidboi69]

Originally posted by liquidboi69


Btw, Lexus is Japanese a.k.a. Asian. So plz dont refer to all chinese as Asians buddy :P
You mean don't refer to all azn's as Chinese? Stop smoking crack Henry.

The Yaris and Merc are pretty good copies bodyshape-wise lol.

[snowboard]

god damn
that one SUV looks so cheap :barf:

[Xtrema]

The problem is that some many parts are outsourced to build in China, and foreign country doesn't own these companies or has control of China's law system, it's not hard to pick and build out of those parts.

[dino_martini]

Whats wrong with that? If in the next 15 years the chinese can sell you a Lexus looking, Lexus quality car for 15,000 are you saying you wont buy one becuase "well, it looks like a lexus but its not a lexus" ?

[MooseJawian]

WHILE CANADIANS ARE EVEN LACK OF ABILITY TO ACTUALLY MAKE A CAR...WUT A LAME..TOO..

[ZorroAMG]

^:english:

Haha, nismo....it's a good thing i'm racist...thanks for showing me the way :D

[max_boost]

What else is new. In China, what the hell are copyright laws? The land of fakes/replicas/duplicates/copycats etc.etc. They don't appear to give a shit either. LOL :D They'll take the design, make it their own and make it look like crap. haha

[silver_gs-R]

yeha i noticed this when i was reading an auto news maganize at work a few weeks ago.

[liquidboi69]

Originally posted by liquidboi69

You mean don't refer to all azn's as Chinese? Stop smoking crack Henry.

The Yaris and Merc are pretty good copies bodyshape-wise lol.

Ooops same shit sorta.. lol. It just sounds like hes calling chinese azn's.

[ZorroAMG]

are chinese NOT asians???? FUCK, who cares liquidboi....evdiently only you and none of the other "asians" posting inthis thread. PLEASE stfu.

[FiveFreshFish]

Originally posted by richardchan2002
They've been doing this for years. Always higher end luxury cars too...

:werd:

http://forums.beyond.ca/showthread.php?s=&threadid=30754

[HiSpec]

Originally posted by dino_martini
Whats wrong with that? If in the next 15 years the chinese can sell you a Lexus looking, Lexus quality car for 15,000 are you saying you wont buy one becuase "well, it looks like a lexus but its not a lexus" ?

I am chinese, but I wish I can agree to your statement. Because about 4-5 months ago, I saw this video regarding about the safety-rating results of chinese-made vehicles. The results were much much less then average, it was outrageously (sp?) horrible.
As much as I support the chinese economy. I think they should stay out of developing and manufacturing in the automotive sector.

[Rav4Guy]

^ i saw that same video.. but.. people have to start somewhere. They just can't jump in the ring and make fancy smancy 5 star rated cars.

I absolutely like the piracy laws... and the lack of them.

[MooseJawian]

Originally posted by HiSpec


I am chinese, but I wish I can agree to your statement. Because about 4-5 months ago, I saw this video regarding about the safety-rating results of chinese-made vehicles. The results were much much less then average, it was outrageously (sp?) horrible.
As much as I support the chinese economy. I think they should stay out of developing and manufacturing in the automotive sector.
you are chinese MY ASS...

[Toms-SC]

This thread got racist

[MooseJawian]

at least chinese ppl have balls and abilities to make one...i totally agree with rav4guy, no one is gonna be able to jump into this makret and build up a mecerdez look with lexus quality and hyundai price vehicle out of no where...
when those hondas and toyotas first get into north america market in the late 70s and early 80. wut were the words about them??POS..cheap toy..blah blah blah..how about now..some stupid red neck spent over 10 grand for a over 15 yrs old nissan..
nothing wrong w/ cars look alike..all sedens are 4 wheels with 4 doors.....i could say the new jetta look like the corolla, why?they do look like from my perspective..anything wrong with that????
when the actual manufacture do not give a shit..who the fuck are you guys to commenting about the look fo those cars????do not tellme you guys care about the copyrite of a bema look more than the bema company..

[ZorroAMG]

yeah, this sheeeit needs to be cerrado, and YOU sir, need to :english:

[clem24]

LOL have you guys actually ridden in a Chinese car? The one I rode in a few years ago felt like it was going to completely fall apart. They are basically where the Koreans were 20 years ago. The car didn't have seat belts. The suspension felt like it was made up of rocks. And it maxed out at about 90 km/h if even that. He had to redline 3 gears before even getting to 50 km/h.

I guess if they copy DVDs and games, then why not cars. Plus they've been doing this for a long time... All the way back to the days of the Audi 5000. I think I've got pics somewhere...

[MooseJawian]

ohohoh.. buddy.." a few yrs ago" is soooo not a convincing term for a growing country as china...when a few yrs ago...air canada was still owned by canadian, but now it is owned by chinese(victor lee's family), and a few yrs ago, huskie energy, one of the canadian biggest energy company was still owned by canadian, now it is owned by chinese...

a few yrs ago, chinese were not even able to make their own engine for a electrical bike, but nowadays, bema has their first oversea manufacture outlet in china. most 3 and 5 series bmw in asian market are built in china,including japan, india.
and also volkswagon,audi, honda, toyota, mitsubishi nissan etc manufactures.and a mercedez manufacture factory next yr.

u'd be surprised how those look-alike vehicles are actually built from the same assemble line with those germany and japan manufactures.

[Toms-SC]

Originally posted by MooseJawian
ohohoh.. buddy.." a few yrs ago" is soooo not a convincing term for a growing country as china...when a few yrs ago...air canada was still owned by canadian, but now it is owned by chinese(victor lee's family), and a few yrs ago, huskie energy, one of the canadian biggest energy company was still owned by canadian, now it is owned by chinese...

a few yrs ago, chinese were not even able to make their own engine for a electrical bike, but nowadays, bema has their first oversea manufacture outlet in china. most 3 and 5 series bmw in asian market are built in china,including japan, india.
and also volkswagon,audi, honda, toyota, mitsubishi nissan etc manufactures.and a mercedez manufacture factory next yr.

u'd be surprised how those look-alike vehicles are actually built from the same assemble line with those germany and japan manufactures.

Please stick to pirating software/DVD's/Music/Electronics

K thxs?

~Canada

[JordanEG6]

Originally posted by MooseJawian
ohohoh.. buddy.." a few yrs ago" is soooo not a convincing term for a growing country as china...when a few yrs ago...air canada was still owned by canadian, but now it is owned by chinese(victor lee's family), and a few yrs ago, huskie energy, one of the canadian biggest energy company was still owned by canadian, now it is owned by chinese...

a few yrs ago, chinese were not even able to make their own engine for a electrical bike, but nowadays, bema has their first oversea manufacture outlet in china. most 3 and 5 series bmw in asian market are built in china,including japan, india.
and also volkswagon,audi, honda, toyota, mitsubishi nissan etc manufactures.and a mercedez manufacture factory next yr.

u'd be surprised how those look-alike vehicles are actually built from the same assemble line with those germany and japan manufactures.


okay, so they monopolize and buy out huge companies, so what? doesn't justify them being good car makers and/or designers which is what this thread is really about. Chinese cars are junk IMO, and most cant even pass a 1 star safety rating.

what you are saying is yes, they do build most 3 series, 5 series bmws and other manufacturers vehicles in china, but those are based on the designs of the europeans etc. just because the chinese built something based on other designs, engineering, safety regulations, doesnt make themselves good car makers. They're own designs and engineering, again, are pieces of shit played off of other car makers that cant even withstand crashes at 40mph. i'd buy a kia before any chinese brand anyday.


and btw, that should explain why 3 and 5 series bimmers need to be taken back to the dealer all the time. hahaha j.k.

[HiSpec]

Originally posted by MooseJawian

you are chinese MY ASS...

obviously there isn't enough chinese in SK to know let you what a chinese person looks like... let alone even understand their culture...

but then i can't use you to compare with the rest of SK... its just unfair to them.


Originally posted by JordanEG6



okay, so they monopolize and buy out huge companies, so what? doesn't justify them being good car makers and/or designers which is what this thread is really about. Chinese cars are junk IMO, and most cant even pass a 1 star safety rating.

what you are saying is yes, they do build most 3 series, 5 series bmws and other manufacturers vehicles in china, but those are based on the designs of the europeans etc. just because the chinese built something based on other designs, engineering, safety regulations, doesnt make themselves good car makers. They're own designs and engineering, again, are pieces of shit played off of other car makers that cant even withstand crashes at 40mph. i'd buy a kia before any chinese brand anyday.


and btw, that should explain why 3 and 5 series bimmers need to be taken back to the dealer all the time. hahaha j.k.

AMEN x :werd:

[MooseJawian]

Originally posted by HiSpec


obviously there isn't enough chinese in SK to know let you what a chinese person looks like... let alone even understand their culture...

but then i can't use you to compare with the rest of SK... its just unfair to them.



AMEN x :werd:

hey man..WTF r u still doing here, just saw your mama, she is really pisssed since you AGAIN sneak outta ur delivery job for ur grandpa's kitchen tonight..some orders of chicken fried rice are already gone late...come on...get ur ass back to the kitchen before they take ur civic back..oh..man..how can you pimp in front of ur English as Second Language class if u lose your civic...

[Toms-SC]

Ban

[Cruz]

Originally posted by MooseJawian
at least chinese ppl have balls and abilities to make one...

What's that, a testicle?


i totally agree with rav4guy, no one is gonna be able to jump into this makret and build up a mecerdez look with lexus quality and hyundai price vehicle out of no where...

Excuse me?


when those hondas and toyotas first get into north america market in the late 70s and early 80. wut were the words about them??POS..cheap toy..blah blah blah..


I can honestly say I don't remember those words about them.


i could say the new jetta look like the corolla, why?they do look like from my perspective..anything wrong with that????

If that's your perspective, you're not very perceptive (or intelligent)



a bema look more than the bema company..

:rofl: I think no comment is probably the best comment here.

[HiSpec]

Originally posted by MooseJawian


hey man..WTF r u still doing here, just saw your mama, she is really pisssed since you AGAIN sneak outta ur delivery job for ur grandpa's kitchen tonight..some orders of chicken fried rice are already gone late...come on...get ur ass back to the kitchen before they take ur civic back..oh..man..how can you pimp in front of ur English as Second Language class if u lose your civic...

man... are all kids from moose jaw have no class .... or just you?

And bema? ............................... :rolleyes:

[CalgaryB5]

It is interesting to see those comments as myself a Chinese from HK. I won’t defend any side or who’s right/wrong, racist or not. As I know most of you guy will walk into Walmart shopping comfortably tomorrow like this post has never happened. And products that stamp Made in China will be still around you everyday.

I think you guys never considered that people who live in China have a different set of values in their life. Perhaps those cars are badly built. What if those brands offer the price-tag difference? Will you still get a car to drive or walk 10km to work? The price of the look-a-like can be ¼ of a real brand. Poverty is common in China. A car is considered a luxury item. I’m sure most people in Canada rarely encountered the lack of anything whatsoever. The latest I heard were lack of Wii and the anti-pregnant pills. Anyhow, those cars exist is because of the market demand, not because they just want to copy. We should be glad they are only over in Mainland China not in Canada. But wait ‘Oh snap’, What about those kit-cars over here?

Okay, that’s enough for the copycat brands, what about the real brand cars. I happened to know people who do private import/export automotive in China. He imports new high ends LHD SUVs into China. You can import anything and everything. The day I visit his lot over the summer he got about 200 units sitting there waiting to ship up to China. They have X5, Touareg, Cayenne, Navigator, Land Rover, and H3. Some of them were source from US caused I saw those yellow reflectors & GM Quality stickers. So, to get a luxury car in China it also comes with a price tag. The listed price never what you are going to pay. Even you can afford one is depends on who you know. The car may not be available right away. You have to pay more for the expedite service. He told me that one time he had a customer who really want to be the first guy to have a factory modded Cayenne Turbo(not too sure what if they have in Canada). Anyway, he arranged a flat bed truck at the international terminal hub. When the car got off the cargo ship then towed it to the airport terminal. The car onboard to the next flight on the DHL cargo. I think only some people can afford a bill like that.

Probably my little story doesn’t do much. Is it possible to let other people to drive their shit and sell their shit? If you choose to not buy them, you are already do yourself a favor. I always tell myself that it is easy to misunderstood people but to understand one is hard. Just like I cannot understand my GF. I have no way to control my hoe.
:whipped:

[forkdork]

Originally posted by MooseJawian


hey man..WTF r u still doing here, just saw your mama, she is really pisssed since you AGAIN sneak outta ur delivery job for ur grandpa's kitchen tonight..some orders of chicken fried rice are already gone late...come on...get ur ass back to the kitchen before they take ur civic back..oh..man..how can you pimp in front of ur English as Second Language class if u lose your civic...

Why do I get the feeling that you are ESL?

[ZorroAMG]

What did I DOOOOO????

:rofl: :rofl:

[CalgarySupra]

i would buy a chinese made car way before i buy any american pos including the hummer

china makes a lof of good qaulity products. not just your basic dollar store items.

[Toms-SC]

Originally posted by CalgarySupra
i would buy a chinese made car way before i buy any american pos including the hummer

china makes a lof of good qaulity products. not just your basic dollar store items.

:zzz:

[JordanEG6]

Originally posted by CalgarySupra
i would buy a chinese made car way before i buy any american pos including the hummer

china makes a lof of good qaulity products. not just your basic dollar store items.


lol are you kidding? the chinese do make good products, in fact all my air jordans are made in china. im not being racist but its true. and they are good quality...

..but to buy any of these cars over a proven, safe, more reliable car from the US is plain stupid. the chinese have been copying and manufacturing cars like this for years and we still have yet to see them hit the international market. so what does that tell you? most of these peices of junk cant pass a simple first stage safety rating or road test.

[Rav4Guy]

^ do they REALLY need to market it outside of China? Not really. with 1.4B people..... I think they need to just sell it to their own people. Obviously they need to upgrade some certain aspects of their designs, but give them a couple more years and they'll come out with a product that'll be comparable.

[ZorroAMG]

yeah a couple more years and they will be as good as toyota or mercedes.

:rolleyes:

[HiSpec]

Originally posted by CalgaryB5
It is interesting to see those comments as myself a Chinese from HK. I won’t defend any side or who’s right/wrong, racist or not. As I know most of you guy will walk into Walmart shopping comfortably tomorrow like this post has never happened. And products that stamp Made in China will be still around you everyday.

I think you guys never considered that people who live in China have a different set of values in their life. Perhaps those cars are badly built. What if those brands offer the price-tag difference? Will you still get a car to drive or walk 10km to work? The price of the look-a-like can be ?of a real brand. Poverty is common in China. A car is considered a luxury item. I’m sure most people in Canada rarely encountered the lack of anything whatsoever. The latest I heard were lack of Wii and the anti-pregnant pills. Anyhow, those cars exist is because of the market demand, not because they just want to copy. We should be glad they are only over in Mainland China not in Canada. But wait ‘Oh snap? What about those kit-cars over here?

Okay, that’s enough for the copycat brands, what about the real brand cars. I happened to know people who do private import/export automotive in China. He imports new high ends LHD SUVs into China. You can import anything and everything. The day I visit his lot over the summer he got about 200 units sitting there waiting to ship up to China. They have X5, Touareg, Cayenne, Navigator, Land Rover, and H3. Some of them were source from US caused I saw those yellow reflectors & GM Quality stickers. So, to get a luxury car in China it also comes with a price tag. The listed price never what you are going to pay. Even you can afford one is depends on who you know. The car may not be available right away. You have to pay more for the expedite service. He told me that one time he had a customer who really want to be the first guy to have a factory modded Cayenne Turbo(not too sure what if they have in Canada). Anyway, he arranged a flat bed truck at the international terminal hub. When the car got off the cargo ship then towed it to the airport terminal. The car onboard to the next flight on the DHL cargo. I think only some people can afford a bill like that.

Probably my little story doesn’t do much. Is it possible to let other people to drive their shit and sell their shit? If you choose to not buy them, you are already do yourself a favor. I always tell myself that it is easy to misunderstood people but to understand one is hard. Just like I cannot understand my GF. I have no way to control my hoe.
:whipped:

you know what... i'm gonna agree with you on that point. Because it is true that different people have different value towards money and standard of living. People in china who are able to afford a vehicle (i'm talking JUST a vehicle, not asking for high-end vehicles) wants to purchase the best bang for bucks vehicle, and yet wont' be ashamed to drive it out on the street.
While people in NA have a higher ability to afford what they desire to have.

[realazy]

I think the point is that these cars cost way less than their imported counterparts. Last I remember when my dad was in China, he told me the prices of some of these cars are less then 10 000 RMB, that is less than $2000 canadian! For a country like China, these are the products that people NEED, not a new BMW or a Merc. And what someone above said is true, they have a large enough market in china to sustain themselves and most of them dont even plan on exporting these cars.