View Full Version : Raise, what raise?
calarina
05-12-2003, 10:18 AM
Well, is it illegal to give someone a raise, and take it away without reason?
Well, that's what hapenned to me. They gave me a raise on April 25th, and I find out now, the cutoff for payday, that they decided to take it away. I told accounting upstairs to take the rest of my $1200 repair bill off my paycheque, thinking that I would have been fine. The rest of the repair bill was $572.12, and now I'm not going to have much of a cheque left to live off of for the next 2 weeks.
Isn't it illegal to take away a persons raise because it cost the employer too much money? BTW, my raise was $3800 extra a year...and I'm damn sure I didn't do anything wrong.
And please, don't post anything demeaning; I'm asking this to find out peoples opinions on it, or if someone knows the answer.
Originally posted by calarina
Well, is it illegal to give someone a raise, and take it away without reason?
Well, that's what hapenned to me. They gave me a raise on April 25th, and I find out now, the cutoff for payday, that they decided to take it away. I told accounting upstairs to take the rest of my $1200 repair bill off my paycheque, thinking that I would have been fine. The rest of the repair bill was $572.12, and now I'm not going to have much of a cheque left to live off of for the next 2 weeks.
Isn't it illegal to take away a persons raise because it cost the employer too much money? BTW, my raise was $3800 extra a year...and I'm damn sure I didn't do anything wrong.
And please, don't post anything demeaning; I'm asking this to find out peoples opinions on it, or if someone knows the answer.
Do you have it in writing?
Blue Devil 2
05-12-2003, 10:24 AM
have you talked to anyone, and asked why?
calarina
05-12-2003, 10:26 AM
I do have it in writing. I was told because an extra $3800 a year cost my employer too much money, and I had already had a raise after a month of working here. But my manager, and the Human Relations director both agreed to giving me a raise.
Originally posted by calarina
I do have it in writing. I was told because an extra $3800 a year cost my employer too much money, and I had already had a raise after a month of working here. But my manager, and the Human Relations director both agreed to giving me a raise.
If you have it in writing explicitly saying you have a raise I think you've got them bent over a barrel. $3800 a year is too much for them? I find that hard to believe!
jdmakkord
05-12-2003, 10:46 AM
Dont forget you've if you've only been there 3 months or less, they can terminate you with no warning or reason.
DUBBED
05-12-2003, 10:50 AM
yeah if youve been there less than 3 months i wouldnt cause too much of a fuss.. who knows ull prob get that raise back within a couple months anyway. and ask them if it would be possible to hold off on the repair bill for another check since you wont be making as much anymore... it would only be fair
calarina
05-12-2003, 10:56 AM
I have been here for more than 3 months, and I have it in writing that I'm a full time employee and had a raise.
And I can't tell them to hold off on the repair bill. Today was cut off, and it already went through...
GTS Jeff
05-12-2003, 11:35 AM
the human stomach can actually digest toilet paper if ure really in a bind.
DUBBED
05-12-2003, 11:37 AM
are you part of a union?
call the workers rights board... they helped me out when i was getting bent over by my old boss... its free cus you pay their salary basically so try that!!
calarina
05-12-2003, 11:48 AM
I'm not part of any union I know about, except for UFCW when I was working for Safeway. :P
I work at a dealership, and as far as I know, we don't have unions here.
4wheeldrift
05-12-2003, 12:07 PM
I'd send an inquiry to the labour relations board, see what they say, if you have a leg to stand on, legally or otherwise.
Weapon_R
05-12-2003, 12:19 PM
Originally posted by 4wheeldrift
I'd send an inquiry to the labour relations board, see what they say, if you have a leg to stand on, legally or otherwise.
Of course, expect to lose your job quickly after you file a complaint, should you have a leg to stand on. No employer is going to keep you after you've filed a complaint with a labour relations board, and any excuse can be used to terminate your employment.
I can swing a mean sack of doorknobs ;)
Call the LRB for sure, see what they say. But start looking for a new job, cause they wont keep you for long afterwards.
4wheeldrift
05-12-2003, 12:23 PM
Originally posted by Weapon_R
Of course, expect to lose your job quickly after you file a complaint, should you have a leg to stand on. No employer is going to keep you after you've filed a complaint with a labour relations board, and any excuse can be used to terminate your employment. Its not like you have to file a complaint, they DO offer advice without opening a file.
Weapon_R
05-12-2003, 12:25 PM
Originally posted by 4wheeldrift
Its not like you have to file a complaint, they DO offer advice without opening a file.
I meant if and when she does decide to file a complaint, actually.
calarina
05-12-2003, 12:29 PM
Well, I just had a talk with my boss, and he persistantly kept telling me "Oh, it's coming, don't worry! Be patient!". Patient? I had it in writing that I was going to get a raise, and I even showed it to him. This just pisses me off, because now it's going to take me longer to save up for my downpayment on my car...
Well, speaking from experience, they're most likely BS'ing you around because:
1) You're young.
2) You appear weak.
3) You're being a push over.
Remember, you work for them, not the other way around and they're not going to do you any favors. You have every right to close the managers door and say "this is bullshit."
calarina
05-12-2003, 12:58 PM
The manager and I share an office. If he thinks I'm a pushover, then he has another thing comming. I'm either getting this raise back, or going somewhere else that won't screw me over.
My boss claims I do such a good job at everything I do, that if he hears I'm leaving, he'll approach me with an offer. :D Hehe, I can be a bitch if I want to be, but that also limits my career, options, and doesn't make the upper management think too highly of me. That's why I haven't done much of anything yet, except for talking with Simon, and trying to get as much answers out of him, as I can.
tulit
05-12-2003, 01:07 PM
that if he hears I'm leaving, he'll approach me with an offer.
Probably not. A lot of companies will just do bastard things to their employees when they want them to leave (not saying this is your case or anything). Its a lot better for a company for a person to quit than to fire them. They open up a whole new problem for themselves when they have to go and fire someone.
calarina
05-12-2003, 01:17 PM
Originally posted by tulit
Probably not. A lot of companies will just do bastard things to their employees when they want them to leave (not saying this is your case or anything). Its a lot better for a company for a person to quit than to fire them. They open up a whole new problem for themselves when they have to go and fire someone.
I used to be an assistant to the Office Administrator here. Now I have that position. When the Office Administrator quit, my manager approached her with an offer. He seems to like me much better than her, but I'm not trying to play favorites.
No one has answered my question yet. Is it illegal to give someone a raise, and take it away without a valid reason?
jdmakkord
05-12-2003, 01:26 PM
Originally posted by calarina
I used to be an assistant to the Office Administrator here. Now I have that position. When the Office Administrator quit, my manager approached her with an offer. He seems to like me much better than her, but I'm not trying to play favorites.
No one has answered my question yet. Is it illegal to give someone a raise, and take it away without a valid reason?
Actually someone did answer your question partially. Call the labour board, and they will fill you in, whether it was illegal or not.
calarina
05-12-2003, 01:27 PM
Anyone got a number?
DUBBED
05-12-2003, 01:41 PM
Originally posted by Ben
I can swing a mean sack of doorknobs ;)
lol u saw that simpsons the other day too huh?!!
Superesc
05-12-2003, 01:51 PM
I don't think its illegal. If they can prove that your extra 3800 will affect the company they can do whatever heck they want. And yes, usually employees who "inquire" too much at dealership can be out of a job sooner then you think.
mwmhong
05-12-2003, 01:51 PM
Originally posted by calarina
Anyone got a number?
Just a wee bit of advice, you should NOT call from work.
calarina
05-12-2003, 01:58 PM
I have my cell phone right beside my computer.
Originally posted by DUBBED
lol u saw that simpsons the other day too huh?!!
No, why?
calarina
05-12-2003, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by Ben
No, why?
Would this be an example of "Stupid questions get stupid answers"? :D
Fluidic
05-12-2003, 02:05 PM
Originally posted by mwmhong
Just a wee bit of advice, you should NOT call from work.
hahahahahahahahahaha -- right you are my friend -- right you are!
Peter
The Number:
1-800-PHONE-BOOK
DUBBED
05-12-2003, 02:09 PM
Originally posted by Ben
No, why?
that simpsons where the cat burgalur was one and one of nelsons friends is begging homer to be part or the neighborhood watch group... thats exactly what he says... "i can swing a mean sack of doorknobs!!"
calarina
05-12-2003, 02:10 PM
Originally posted by 008
The Number:
1-800-PHONE-BOOK
1-800-I'm too lazy. :tongue: :D Haha. If no one has the number, I'll call later when I'm in the comfort of my own, warm, home.
Originally posted by calarina
1-800-I'm too lazy. :tongue: :D Haha. If no one has the number, I'll call later when I'm in the comfort of my own, warm, home.
Whats the R Value on Cardboard?
:confused:
:rofl: J/K
ninjak84
05-12-2003, 04:50 PM
Originally posted by GTS Jeff
the human stomach can actually digest toilet paper if ure really in a bind.
HAHAHAHAHA! :rofl:
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