civic people

[TalonVelocity]

anyone willing to help me out with a decision?

I have decided Im going to buy a 1992-1995 civic.. the Golf thing fell through...


Im either gonna get a dx/cx with a b18 engine swap, or do a Si with exhaust, headers, intake, and nitrous.. which would be the better choice? of course this question is more only for performance. What Im looking for is 0-60 time, a quick acceleration. The nitrous is good cuz I dont really race much AT ALL.. just random relight to redlight stuff.

so what would be quicker? and how much would I be looking at paying for these 2 options?? thanks

[GTS Jeff]

engine swapping your first car is kind of ambitious...

[TalonVelocity]

hehe yeah.. I guess.. is it really that bad of an idea? do u think the headers/exhaust/intake/nitrous is over the top?? Im not really sure whats reliable or not.. Im kinda new to the car scene

[GTS Jeff]

well remember when u start doing heavy mods to a car, it becomes more of a toy than a reliable form of transportation.

[ecstasy_civic]

the swap is PRICEY!!!!!
the header, intake, exhaust and nitrous is expensive too.
might as well turbo your car.

my civic is for sale if interested:thumbsup:

[TalonVelocity]

turbo = unreliable isnt it??

and GTS Jeff -> thats what I like about nitrous, Im not always using it like I would a turbo. It can be a reliable daily driver, and when I wanna turn it up a little i can...

how much will headers/intak etc cost me? I'd want close to top of the line, but nothing excessive

[ecstasy_civic]

if tuned properly a turbo motor can run just as well and reliable as a N/A motor.

header/intake and exhaust??? roughly $1000-1200 depending on your preferance

[TalonVelocity]

I was told a whole exhaust system is 1000 dollars alone.. and Im assuming headers/intake is more then 200$$ lol..

how bout a full/installed nitrous system? $$?

[Illusionsir]

your probibly looking at 1000 for your exhaust, 500-600 for a good header, like 250 for a cold air intake and you can probibly find a nitrious kit from anywhere to 500 to 800.

so all in all i would expect to be paying 2500

[ecstasy_civic]

i took the exhaust as a muffler and custom piping=400-500
intake=250
header=400-600

i took hte middle numbers and added them and it came out to $1200

[TalonVelocity]

wow thats actually less then I was thinkin it would be..

perfect now I'd have money for a kit/rims :P

[ecstasy_civic]

add the nitrous/install and your looking closer to 1000 id bet. dont know much about nitrous, dont really care too

[TalonVelocity]

yeah i like ur car alot.. but Im not lookin to pay more then 6k for a car.. but man urs is wicked

[ecstasy_civic]

its not really, its really clean and in good shape but i dont have to much done to it.

thnx though:thumbsup:

[lightsout]

man my opion on thsi si to by a si to fix up a few boys around ehre did that and they run like a charm. you should go that route.

[ecstasy_civic]

Originally posted by lightsout
man my opion on thsi si to by a si to fix up a few boys around ehre did that and they run like a charm. you should go that route.

what!!??
take your time typing lol

ya once my car is gone im getting either an ef or crx and dropping my turbo motor in there. cheap light and fast:thumbsup:

[gpomp]

How much money are you willing to spend?

[STI-Guy]

I wouldn't suggest nitrous. Some-what dangerous. And like they say, bottles are for babies.

Turbocharge it. Boost is lots of fun. :)

[TalonVelocity]

well Im just worried about the reliablility of turbo.. and again I dont race much, so nitro is better for occasional use.. turbos are workin all the times

and Im willing to spend about 6000$ including body kit and rims

[gpomp]

Originally posted by TalonVelocity
well Im just worried about the reliablility of turbo.. and again I dont race much, so nitro is better for occasional use.. turbos are workin all the times

and Im willing to spend about 6000$ including body kit and rims

Hrm. I think turbo is more reliable than nitrous. Turbo doesn't work all the time, only when you want it to. $6000 is kinda tight for a 92-95 Civic (if you want one in good condition).

[Barlow]

ummmm, I'd go for the Si just because it proberly hasn't been driven as hard as the one with the nitrous, I'm pretty sure the owner had funw ith the nitrous if he/she knew they were selling it..thats my oppinion neway

[Barlow]

oops never mind my last post i thought yu were choossing between 2 already done up cars my bad

[TalonVelocity]

gpomp, I have 6000$ EXTRA after I buy the car :)

[gpomp]

Oh ok, $6000 can get you pretty nice wheels and body kit. But depending on what wheels and kit you get, you could have enough money for a pretty reliable turbo kit.

[chrisgushue]

get the si and turbo it, w exhaust intake and headers, then drop it with rims

[Ben]

Originally posted by chrisgushue
get the si and turbo it, w exhaust intake and headers, then drop it with rims

Wasn't aware SI's had a V engine

[kaput]

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[Seanith]

Originally posted by Ben


Wasn't aware SI's had a V engine

:dunno:

Get a 92-95 hatch, get a type r engine and go all motor baby! :D

[GTS Jeff]

Originally posted by lightsout
man my opion on thsi si to by a si to fix up a few boys around ehre did that and they run like a charm. you should go that route. ic cann ttpe bttr when imdrunk

[GTS Jeff]

Originally posted by ~$eanith~


:dunno:

Get a 92-95 hatch, get a type r engine and go all motor baby! :D b18 isnt v engine..

[Seanith]

Originally posted by GTS Jeff
b18 isnt v engine..

Who said it was?? :dunno:
Thats what i posted originally... i don't see where the original "V" engine reference came from...am i missing something?

[GTS Jeff]

ok heres what happened

-some guy wants "headers" for his civic si
-ben tells said guy that the civic si doesnt have a v engine
-u respond to ben by suggesting a b18
-i tell u that b18 isnt a v engine either

[Seanith]

Originally posted by GTS Jeff
ok heres what happened

-some guy wants "headers" for his civic si
-ben tells said guy that the civic si doesnt have a v engine
-u respond to ben by suggesting a b18
-i tell u that b18 isnt a v engine either

So your trying to make me and him look wrong on a tecnicality? He wants "headers" as a singular set, but you guys are trying to say he was asking for headers as in a pair of headers, one for each side of the engine in a V configuration? Wow good job man.. :rolleyes: . Don't put words in my mouth man :)

[GTS Jeff]

Originally posted by ~$eanith~


So your trying to make me and him look wrong on a tecnicality? He wants "headers" as a singular set, but you guys are trying to say he was asking for headers as in a pair of headers, one for each side of the engine in a V configuration? Wow good job man.. :rolleyes: . Don't put words in my mouth man :) hey man, u asked - i told u.

did u not learn about singularity and plurality in school? when u say "headers" with the "s" at the end, it implies plurality. thats what the "s" at the end of a noun means. when implying singularity, as in "one" - the "s" is omitted - in this example, the correct grammar would be "header".

welcome to grade 4, jerk.

[TalonVelocity]

I have no clue what u guys are talkin about.. I know nothin about cars :)

but uh yeah a header if it makes ya happy

so whats the final judgement? turbo or nitro?

[Seanith]

dude you gotta get off your pedestal for a second there. I know the "plurality" rules, but we all know what he fucking meant by "headers". Is he going to say "I want to get header" and be cool but also a tard like you? . :dunno:
I'm sure you've heard people refer to things that technically are wrong, but everyone (who isn't a fucking asshole) tends to just let it slide because there is no way to misinterpret it. :thumbsdow
Everyone calls them headers, regardless of how many they are getting.

[Weapon_R]

Originally posted by chrisgushue
get the si and turbo it, w exhaust intake and headers, then drop it with rims

Turbo with headers and intake, eh?

Sweet.

[TalonVelocity]

seanith/jeff whatever guys keep on topic plz :)

[gpomp]

Originally posted by Weapon_R


Turbo with headers and intake, eh?

Sweet.

Hahhahahahah, exactly what I was thinking.

[Seanith]

Originally posted by TalonVelocity
seanith/jeff whatever guys keep on topic plz :)

You don't need intake if your boosting..

[ecstasy_civic]

you have to be running an air filter, what happens if you get shit in the housing?

but wait a minute, your right:rolleyes:

[Seanith]

i was referring to CAI or something along those lines.. of course you need an air filter!

[gpomp]

Originally posted by ecstasy_civic
you have to be running an air filter, what happens if you get shit in the housing?

but wait a minute, your right:rolleyes:
Filter? Filter are for wussies...

[Weapon_R]

I'll probably take flames for this, but i'm going to say Nitrous.

It's cheap, it's easy to use, and it's less headache to maintain. Definately more dangerous if used excessively, but many people aren't Saturday night RACE WARS contenders, so that isn't a problem. I know I rarely ever race, so if you are the type of person who only needs that extra push once in a while, go for a Nitrous kit.

If you want power on tap, go for a turbo. It is more costly, harder to maintain, and more damaging on your engine as you are consistently subjecting your engine to large amounts of power each time you step on the gas.

Your best choice for a quick import would be to get a civic dx

b18b engine (b18c is better, but about 3x more)
55 Shot Nitrous
Headers :D
Intake
Exhaust

You should be pretty happy with that setup, and it should be good enough to get you into the 14's

[Seanith]

definitely get a hatch if speed is key...

[gpomp]

Originally posted by ~$eanith~
definitely get a hatch if speed is key...

Not really, a DX coupe is like 180 lbs lighter than a Si hatch.

[hjr]

so you know nothing about cars. then go nitrous. it will be easier for you. Also, read a book or two. learn something about what you doing. It is invaluable to know how your car works if your going to mod it.

[Seanith]

Originally posted by gpomp


Not really, a DX coupe is like 180 lbs lighter than a Si hatch.

What about a CX hatch? BTW what civic Si hatch are you referring to? Didn't they only have them in 89-91?

[gpomp]

Originally posted by ~$eanith~


What about a CX hatch? BTW what civic Si hatch are you referring to? Didn't they only have them in 89-91?

CX hatch is light, but you don't get any luxuries!!! Hrm, were there no Si hatches from 92-95? My memory is not working here...

[Seanith]

nope just Si coupes... the top hatch model had been the DX for quite some time.. comes with sunroof i know that..

[TalonVelocity]

is there really a diff for performance between coupe and hatch?

[^SkylinE^]

hatch is lighter i believe i have a hatch and i love it. I also think that they look better! Well good luck man!!!

[^SkylinE^]

ANd Yes there are 92-95 si hatch backs i own one....i did swap it for a JDM d15b with v-tec but yes there is si hatches and they have sunroofs never heard of CX or DX with sunroofs thought?

[ecstasy_civic]

Originally posted by ^SkylinE^
ANd Yes there are 92-95 si hatch backs i own one....i did swap it for a JDM d15b with v-tec but yes there is si hatches and they have sunroofs never heard of CX or DX with sunroofs thought?

ya man, of course there were si hatches. in 1992 there was no si coupe so it was obviously in a hatch:thumbsup:

also everyone posting in this thread, its called a header!!! not headers.

[Seanith]

Originally posted by ecstasy_civic


ya man, of course there were si hatches. in 1992 there was no si coupe so it was obviously in a hatch:thumbsup:

also everyone posting in this thread, its called a header!!! not headers.

weird i've seen 92-95 coupe Si's (also EXs) but i don't think i've seen Si's hatches in that generation..can someone solidify this?

[FiveFreshFish]

Originally posted by ~$eanith~


weird i've seen 92-95 coupe Si's (also EXs) but i don't think i've seen Si's hatches in that generation..can someone solidify this?

That generation of Si hatch was available in '92 and '93 only. Iirc, the '92 has black door handles while the '93 has them body-coloured.

[lammer]

um 92-95 hatches come in Si didn't they?
comes with power options/sunroof, ac i believe.