Supra MKIV....why nothing yet

[pyar_deewane]

so I was just wondering for a while why there hasnt been any talk of people importing a supra MKIV:eek: ...since they started making them in april 1993 u would prolly be allowed to import one right? so how come no one has started talking about it...am i missing something:dunno:....I know im coming off as a newbie lol:D...but just want some clarification on if they are legal to import once the 15-year law kicks in:rolleyes:

oh yeah sorry for the so many smilies:thumbsup:

[Lo)2enz0]

you can import any of them from the states, as for from japan. right now you can import 92's, this fall and next year is supra's and s14 silvia's

[ex1z7]

I'm assuming because you can't import then till April 2008... and it just turned 2007..?

[CivicTunr]

yah 2007-1993 = 14 years.
so gotta wait one year.

[pyar_deewane]

yea i know i can import one from the states...but have u looked at the price tag...freakin crzy lol...i'd rather wait for the rhd's to come in

[kerry]

A RHD Supra would be as hot as...

http://www.thelesbianvideos.com/sapphicmovies/lesbianskiss/02.jpg

[Lo)2enz0]

funny thing is most of them are auto. your going to be looking at paying $15000 for one from japan

[pyar_deewane]

yah but the good thing about auto is that they cant really be bagged much....and cant be drifted:thumbsup:

[JAYMEZ]

^^ Lol thats a load of shit... I should film the toolies out here who bag the livin shit out of there Supras ... And it seems like they are alllllllllllllll autos... Hahah no fun in that.

People dont buy Supras to drive them like grandmas

[Vietsta]

^^:werd:

[Soren1989]

:rofl:

[A790]

W/E

I got a savings account with IC's name on it. Don't know what car to buy yet, but a Supra TT is definately on the list of options.

[Graham_A_M]

Yeah, I can't wait for the MKIV's to be eligible for import. A nice mint low KM 6speed, TT with a Targa top and a TRD body kit

:drool:

[4doorj]

i cant wait for them!
:thumbsup:
im hoping it brings downt he price of the lhd ones because i would rather drive a lhd one... but im guessing now...
im pretty sure the lhd ones will all still hold their value

[BerserkerCatSplat]

Originally posted by JAYMEZ_STi
^^ Lol thats a load of shit... I should film the toolies out here who bag the livin shit out of there Supras ... And it seems like they are alllllllllllllll autos... Hahah no fun in that.

People dont buy Supras to drive them like grandmas

True that. A MKIV Supra isn't exactly a supercharged Jaguar that Granny Geriatric bought so she could get the heated leather seat package.

[Super_Geo]

Originally posted by BerserkerCatSplat
Granny Geriatric

:rofl::rofl:

[Canmorite]

I saw a red one going by the downtown CO-OP the other day.

[Graham_A_M]

Originally posted by 4doorj
i cant wait for them!
:thumbsup:
im hoping it brings downt he price of the lhd ones because i would rather drive a lhd one... but im guessing now...
im pretty sure the lhd ones will all still hold their value

I was hoping for that too, but I remember asking that same question on www.supraforums.com and most people said that it wouldn't alter the LHD price excessively. The LHD cars will always fetch a higher premium. I know RHD cars definately have they're disadvantages that scare off a lot of buyers.

But the JDM KMIV isn't as good as the North American ones. I forget the details of the comparison, but the fuel intake components aren't as beefy, so there is a HP and 1/4 time loss.
Its not like it matters though since those are usually the first things to be replaced on these cars :rofl:

[Annoyingrob]

They run a 440cc injector as opposed to a 550cc injector, they have ceramic blades on the turbos as opposed to steel, and they're MAP based as opposed to MAF based. Those are th eonly differences, but yeah, they do make slightly less power, and have slightly less power potential on stock turbos/fuel system.

[toyboy88]

Originally posted by B16EM1
A RHD Supra would be as hot as...

http://www.thelesbianvideos.com/sapphicmovies/lesbianskiss/02.jpg

:love:

[D'z Nutz]

Originally posted by B16EM1
A RHD Supra would be as hot as...

http://www.thelesbianvideos.com/sapphicmovies/lesbianskiss/02.jpg

JDM cars need to be washed JDM style :love: :love:

[Redlyne_mr2]

Originally posted by Annoyingrob
They run a 440cc injector as opposed to a 550cc injector, they have ceramic blades on the turbos as opposed to steel, and they're MAP based as opposed to MAF based. Those are th eonly differences, but yeah, they do make slightly less power, and have slightly less power potential on stock turbos/fuel system.
Wow I didnt know that...440cc? Which means the rail and pump are smaller. The only good thing about it is the map but wow...a rhd version isnt worth 10K imo

[Ben]

Originally posted by D'z Nutz


JDM cars need to be washed JDM style :love: :love:


With what? JDM Bush...er, I mean Brush?

[pyar_deewane]

nO PORN >>>>I DONT WANT THIS MOVED TO ASK LEO:banghead:

[max_boost]

Originally posted by pyar_deewane
nO PORN >>>>I DONT WANT THIS MOVED TO ASK LEO:banghead: Is there something wrong with you? :dunno:


Originally posted by D'z Nutz


JDM cars need to be washed JDM style :love: :love: :hitit::drool: :love:

[infected]

Holy NSFW!!

[Zephyr]

Originally posted by pyar_deewane
nO PORN >>>>I DONT WANT THIS MOVED TO ASK LEO:banghead:

:rofl: :rofl:

[pyar_deewane]

there is nothing wrong with me...but i dont want no horny losers cluttering up this thread with crap...:rolleyes:

[Weapon_R]

Originally posted by pyar_deewane
there is nothing wrong with me...but i dont want no horny losers cluttering up this thread with crap...:rolleyes:

Are you into women at all?

[Lo)2enz0]

lol you never know. what guy doesn't want to see three girls making out or tits?

[googe]

Originally posted by pyar_deewane
nO PORN >>>>I DONT WANT THIS MOVED TO ASK LEO:banghead:

OH NOES>>>>>>>TOO LATE!

[EK 2.0]

Originally posted by pyar_deewane
nO PORN >>>>I DONT WANT THIS MOVED TO ASK LEO:banghead:


but you can still read it in ask leo...:dunno:

[T78Supra1]

Just so all you guys are prepared......if you do not want to drive an auto supra and plan to do a conversion, my conversion cost me almost 10,000 and a got the tranny at cost.


If you do go with an auto and want to keep it auto i would definetly change the injectors, fuel rail and the turbo...those ceramic blades scare me. (especially 15year old blades) and you must go with the boost logic Auto tranny with a 3000 rpm torque converter and no 6sp driver will take u on a drag (Crazy shit)

Good luck with importing.

[Redlyne_mr2]

Originally posted by pyar_deewane
nO PORN >>>>I DONT WANT THIS MOVED TO ASK LEO:banghead:
Quick! someone post a pic of Tom Selleck in a bathing suit to make this guy happy

[hjr]

Originally posted by Redlyne_mr2

Quick! someone post a pic of Tom Selleck in a bathing suit to make this guy happy hahahaha!!!

[kevie88]

here you go.. don't hassel the Hoff!

http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/321/321402/folders/246609/194271946405883.hasselhoff.gif

[kerry]

Originally posted by pyar_deewane
there is nothing wrong with me...but i dont want no horny losers cluttering up this thread with crap...:rolleyes:

I sincerely doubt that there's nothing wrong with you...

Instead of "waiting" for an imported supra, import yourself a bride
and then maybe you'll stop whining. :poosie:

[5hift]

Lol he doesnt need a mail order bride, this guy is so obviously fobbed out that mom and dad probably arrainged his marriage when he was 12 to some girl from their village.

[pyar_deewane]

Originally posted by kevie88
here you go.. don't hassel the Hoff!

:rofl:

funny even though u guys suck lol

[LilDrunkenSmurf]

I can't wait for these cars... I realized, this year, I've seen more Ferrari's driving around Calgary than MKIV supras!

The only one i've actually seen on the road was Jaymez, and that was being towed!

[kerry]

Originally posted by pyar_deewane

:rofl:

funny even though u guys suck lol


Wow... almost as weak as you not wanting to see women in your
thread. I'm glad you got the car part of being a man right.... but how
long will it take you to realize that hot women are as nice to look at
as a sexy car?
:dunno:

Makes me question your sexual preference... lol :devil:

[pyar_deewane]

lol whatever I say will just get flamed:eek:

[kerry]

Unless you come up with something witty..... so yes you'll get flamed.

[TeamBestBud]

Originally posted by B16EM1
Unless you come up with something witty..... so yes you'll get flamed.

:rofl:

Originally posted by 5hift
Lol he doesnt need a mail order bride, this guy is so obviously fobbed out that mom and dad probably arrainged his marriage when he was 12 to some girl from their village.

:werd: :rofl:

[EK 2.0]

Originally posted by pyar_deewane

:rofl:

funny even though u guys suck lol


WE suck?? YOU are the one who doesn't want women in his thread...

[JAYMEZ]

Originally posted by LilDrunkenSmurf
I can't wait for these cars... I realized, this year, I've seen more Ferrari's driving around Calgary than MKIV supras!

The only one i've actually seen on the road was Jaymez, and that was being towed!


But it look goood doin it!!:burnout:

[LilDrunkenSmurf]

Originally posted by JAYMEZ_STi



But it look goood doin it!!:burnout:

YEAHHHHH it did.

[RSX-REX]

I imagine we'll see many supra's amongst calgary once they become legal.
It will be difficult to find a specimen 3 - 3.5 grade with a 6 speed transmission * Correct me if manuels are 5 speed *
However they will be around and at a very respectable price.
Now they won't be as cheap as most vehicles through japan.
GTR's, RX7's will be in a completel different ball park price wise * allot cheaper *

however spending 20,000 on a supra from japan is Worlds cheaper then anything you can find here. The average twin turbo Supra runs 30 - 50000 depending where you buy it from and the condition its in.

I think supra's would be one of the smartest alternatives to import vehicles because the engine is so bloody strong and will last a good while with less maintanence then some of its rivalries.

look at the rx7, very cheap price, awsome car but is a money pit.. even more so if you don't spend 6 grand rebuilding the rotary the day it reaches shore from shipment.

[avow]

so you are telling me that they never used the upgraded parts that we had here in canada in japan, even in later years?

i have an mr2 coming in, but man, i really want a mkiv to match :drool:

[Redlyne_mr2]

Originally posted by avow
so you are telling me that they never used the upgraded parts that we had here in canada in japan, even in later years?

i have an mr2 coming in, but man, i really want a mkiv to match :drool:
yep it would appear that the fuel system is far superior in the usdm Supra making the jdm one not so tempting anymore.

[avow]

well thats a kick in the face. how much worse are we talking here?

[RSX-REX]

Hey Dont let this discourage you.. If you love the vehicle just go out and buy it, if you have the money to fix problems when they occur you'll do so without a second guess because you love the vehicle.

I myself wanto get a FD3S next year or the year after for my summer sports car. I could care less that I must rebuild the engine, and spend lots of money to fix her up. Because I love the vehicle and in the end, the means justifies the money spent!

[Redlyne_mr2]

Originally posted by avow
well thats a kick in the face. how much worse are we talking here? Same size fuel system as whats on your mr2 so youd be looking at 300whp at most with that fuel system.

[pyar_deewane]

wait I just checked out autotrader.com for america........and they have lots of supras for only like 15K US....whats up with that:confused: ....they didnt look fake

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/searchresults.jsp?num_records=&search_type=both&keywordsfyc=&make=TOYOTA&model=SUPRA&distance=0&transmission=&make2=&address=10001&certified=&default_sort=priceDESC&advanced=&max_mileage=&max_price=&sort_type=priceASC&min_price=&body_code=0&end_year=2007&keywordsrep=&color=&start_year=1993&drive=&engine=&fuel=&style_flag=1&doors=&pager.offset=25&first_record=26

[JAYMEZ]

^^ You will not find a 6 speed TT for under 25kUS.... The autotraders are usually salvage , wrecked , crashed , NA , NA-T with 5 speed.


As for the JDM Supra , the rods are weaker , different turbos , fuel rail.. and a few more things i cant think of. If you think you can just change them over to US spec . You will have fun emptying your pocket , NOTHING is cheap on this car.

If your looking to upgrade your Auto to 6 speed. Your going to be spending close to 10k.

[JAYMEZ]

MKIII & MKIV's turbos are casted by Hitachi, but Toyota machined and assembled the unit themselves. MKIV in Japan is really rated at 280HP thanks to a different intake cam profile which designed for low-mid range torque. The turbo sizing is also different, Japanese uses ceramic turbo for quicker spool up. Here is the literature about the difference between Japanese and export models.


2JZ- GTE Jap/Export

Intake Valve dia (mm) 33.5 / 33.5
Intake Valve lift (mm) 7.8/ 8.25
Exhaust vlave dia (mm) 29.0/29.0
Exhaust valve lift (mm) 8.4/8.4


Valve Timing

Intake opening (degBTDC) 3/3
Intake closing (DegABDC) 41/50
Exhaust opening (degBBDC) 52/52
Exhaust closing (degATDC) 4/4

Turbo chargers

Turbine material Ceramic ,Steel
Turbine dia. Large/small ends (mm) 60/48 ,52/44
Compressor dia. Small/Large ends (mm) 39/62 , 39/58
Scroll Area (mm^2) 600/ 740
A/R ratio (mm) 10.7 /13.5

Power output

HP 276 / 315
Torque 318@3600/ 314@4000
Traction/Throttle Control ETCS** TCS***



*Europen HP is higher(325HP) due to higher octane gas


**ETCS - Electronic throttle control system "drive-by-wire", it has two modes, one for high surface friction, and one for low surface friction or "snow" mode for people who own 97TT. Yes, 97TT has ETCS or "drive-by-wire". This would explain the reason why my traction control system doesn't work when I installed pre-97 ECU in my 97TT.


***TCS - Conventional throttle control system, not as exotic as "drive-by-wire", but still able to control the throttle and applies rear brakes when needed.

Both ETCS, and TCS have mechanical cable operates the main throttle valve to ensure reliability and fail-safe operation incase the system fails. Toyota called this "robust" design. And both can be cut off by a console-mounted switch.

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I would also like to ADD that the reason I am so negative about most these threads is that I have actually met about 25 people who always say "Yah im selling my car and getting a Supra soon , blah , blah , blah" NONE have.

[pyar_deewane]

Can I ask whats wrong with your Supra:drool: ...like u said it wasnt running or sumthing...how come:nut:

oh and thanks for the info:thumbsup:

[T78Supra1]

Jaymez is right, RCTS had a customer bring his up from new zealand for the Newfoundland rally and just he had to redo the whole entire fuel and air compartments.....which is serious coin,
Normally to get your supra to BPU+ status is not much money, but starting with a JDM model....well lets just say you better have extra cash

If you plan to import one now is the time to find the parts..becuase when these JDM supras get here these parts will go fast.

But lets be honest, importing a car from japan and not having the coin to fix it up is just stupid.

As for supra's in calgary there is a bunch of them however the average owner is 40+ years old and they just like to look at them sit in their garage. (there is always atleast 2 supra's at a time at rcts being worked on so they are around)

[JAYMEZ]

Originally posted by pyar_deewane
Can I ask whats wrong with your Supra:drool: ...like u said it wasnt running or sumthing...how come:nut:

oh and thanks for the info:thumbsup:


Getting my race engine built up and put in. Going for 700RWHP+ before the summer. Should be done before i get back in April/May