View Full Version : Is it legal to keep certain items in a car
Redlyne_mr2
05-30-2003, 05:00 PM
Probably shouldnt post this question because *I do not condone violence* but is it legal to keep a machete in a car, certain parts of TO have proven to be fairly dangerous...not that Id ever do such a thing
EG STyLeZ
05-30-2003, 05:07 PM
yeah, i'm pretty sure it is
I just keep a bat, glove and a couple of balls.
cipher
05-30-2003, 05:38 PM
how bout a baton?
if you fear for your life. . .
have a baseball bat in there. . .
and if a cop ever asks you why,
just say u played baseball the other day and u forgot to take it out when u got home
lol
;)
lammer
05-30-2003, 06:20 PM
IM CHAN HO NAM! i DONT NEED TO CARRY IT WITH ME CAUSE EVERYON BELONGS TO HUNG HING! hahaah
i dont carry anything, i mean if you stay away from trouble, trouble will stay away from you.
and plus just use the factory performance!
car jack, tire iron! all the works.
omar_allibhai
05-30-2003, 06:32 PM
just if you are gonna carry a bat make sure u have a glove with you because that reduces suspician
EG STyLeZ
05-30-2003, 06:32 PM
Originally posted by lammer
IM CHAN HO NAM! i DONT NEED TO CARRY IT WITH ME CAUSE EVERYON BELONGS TO HUNG HING! hahaah
i dont carry anything, i mean if you stay away from trouble, trouble will stay away from you.
and plus just use the factory performance!
car jack, tire iron! all the works.
:werd: a tire iron would work fine
Originally posted by cipher
how bout a baton?
Supposibly a baton is still consider a weapon. The cop told me to get out of my car and I told him no!
I asked him why I go pulled over and he said I looked suspicious and that I look like a suspect from a previous bank robbery. PLEASE! so he told me if I dont get out of my car that he would pull me out using brute force....
WTF???
So I got out of my car, and they were searching through my car and found a baton, the cop then asked me,
"Whats this for?" I said
"For protection"
so the cop gave me a concealed weapons charge.....
and this was when I was in CALGARY!
NOw you know why I hate PIGS! serve and protect my ass!
:barf:
Toms-Celica
05-30-2003, 06:41 PM
In the states my Father kept a loaded Glock in the glovebox, you should try that!
Dope Dealer
05-30-2003, 06:58 PM
Originally posted by Redlyne_mr2
Probably shouldnt post this question because *I do not condone violence* but is it legal to keep a machete in a car, certain parts of TO have proven to be fairly dangerous...not that Id ever do such a thing
Machete, Baton, Brass Knuckles, Guns, NunChucks etc. etc. would all be illegal.
However, I am not so sure about a bat (As long as you have baseballs and a glove to back it up). Tire iron wouldn't be illegal (At least, I think?).
All the rest, you would get charged with concealed weapon.
Wouldnt a steering wheel Club be the easiest one... i mean its pretty hefty and raise the least suspicion. only problem is the thing spins around so its kinda clumsy...
Seanith
05-30-2003, 07:49 PM
i have a pitching wedge in my trunk ;)
Pepper spray? Whats the policy on that?
Dope Dealer
05-30-2003, 08:19 PM
Originally posted by Ranger_X31
Pepper spray? Whats the policy on that?
Not really a concealed weapon. But didn't Alberta outlaw Pepper Spray a few years ago? I thought you could only get it in the States now?
girlRACER
05-30-2003, 09:10 PM
Originally posted by lammer
IM CHAN HO NAM! i DONT NEED TO CARRY IT WITH ME CAUSE EVERYON BELONGS TO HUNG HING! hahaah
:rofl: :rofl: haha...I love that movie. Young and Dangerous Rocks!
4wheeldrift
05-30-2003, 10:09 PM
Originally posted by Dope Dealer
Not really a concealed weapon. But didn't Alberta outlaw Pepper Spray a few years ago? I thought you could only get it in the States now? Go to MEC and pick up some bear mace. I don't know if it would do more than piss a bear off even more, but its quite effective on humans.
redline_13000
05-30-2003, 10:15 PM
All the times cops have searched jimmy, they always found my tire iron beside my seat. Cant say shit about it though :)
cipher
05-30-2003, 10:33 PM
whats a tire iron? i got a baton at the moment, but now im afraid to get charged. i also want to know where i can get brass knuckles. theyd really be quite handy:D
Originally posted by 4wheeldrift
Go to MEC and pick up some bear mace. I don't know if it would do more than piss a bear off even more, but its quite effective on humans.
That stuff actually can and does blind bears. I suspect using it on another person would get you in a lot of trouble.
speedyalero
05-31-2003, 01:16 AM
Originally posted by Kaos
Supposibly a baton is still consider a weapon. The cop told me to get out of my car and I told him no!
I asked him why I go pulled over and he said I looked suspicious and that I look like a suspect from a previous bank robbery. PLEASE! so he told me if I dont get out of my car that he would pull me out using brute force....
WTF???
So I got out of my car, and they were searching through my car and found a baton, the cop then asked me,
"Whats this for?" I said
"For protection"
so the cop gave me a concealed weapons charge.....
and this was when I was in CALGARY!
NOw you know why I hate PIGS! serve and protect my ass!
:barf:
Well, what do you expect? Cop asks you to get out of your car -- unless you have a real good reason (read: something to hide) why not simply comply so you get sent on your way quickly.
I am willing to bet if you had a better attitude with the cop you wouldn't have gotten the charge -- just the 'ol stern talking to.
Also, telling a cop that any item in your car is for protection is kind of asking for it as well.
EvilNeon
05-31-2003, 01:21 AM
A bucket of golf balls in the back makes for some swell high-speed-out-the-sunroof projectiles. It also justifies the pitching wedge.
itsnotaDUB
05-31-2003, 05:33 AM
i had a baton in my ride when i got pulled over and the cop asked " what is this for?", i told him it was a fish bonker... as told to by the guy at spy city the cop couldnt do sheit, lol
Doodle
05-31-2003, 10:55 AM
Keep a T-ball bat with an old ball glove on the bottom of it. The glove takes all the bad out of the situation. I got brass knuckles in TJ, but I think they would hurt my hand as much as they hurt someone.
mwmhong
05-31-2003, 11:02 AM
Originally posted by itsnotaDUB
i had a baton in my ride when i got pulled over and the cop asked " what is this for?", i told him it was a fish bonker... as told to by the guy at spy city the cop couldnt do sheit, lol
Those two guys at the Spy vs. Spy store (when it used to be in Penny Lane Mall) are pretty cool, they always say if you plan on carrying a weapon, have some 'reasonable' explanation for having it to stay out of trouble.
I was pulled over one time and searched for weaponry and when the cops asked about them, I honestly replied "for self-defense". BIG MISTAKE. :(
I actually bought a real fish bonker from Canadian tire and the cashier looks at me funny and says "What's this for?" I say "I'm going fishing." He says "Well.....have fun FISHING." :devil:
Originally posted by Dope Dealer
Not really a concealed weapon. But didn't Alberta outlaw Pepper Spray a few years ago? I thought you could only get it in the States now?
i think thats mase? :dunno: because i know some girls who carry pepper spray and its legal here in ontario
mase and pepper spray are 2 different things i think ...
made up of different components. . .
tegdream
05-31-2003, 11:24 AM
mace=spray
mase=:bigpimp:
Yellow_Fly_Red
05-31-2003, 11:56 AM
Originally posted by Kaos
Supposibly a baton is still consider a weapon. The cop told me to get out of my car and I told him no!
I asked him why I go pulled over and he said I looked suspicious and that I look like a suspect from a previous bank robbery. PLEASE! so he told me if I dont get out of my car that he would pull me out using brute force....
WTF???
So I got out of my car, and they were searching through my car and found a baton, the cop then asked me,
"Whats this for?" I said
"For protection"
so the cop gave me a concealed weapons charge.....
and this was when I was in CALGARY!
NOw you know why I hate PIGS! serve and protect my ass!
:barf:
um... you should've got a lawyer and fought the ticket. It would probably be thrown out of court. Just that MOST people don't fight these kind of tickets and these cops get away with these kind harassment.
In court, he would even have to PROVE that their was actually a recent robbery with the suspect matching your exact descriptions... or else searching your car is an invasion of privacy (even if he finds lots of Cocaine or other weapons in your car), it will be thrown out of court and you will be charged with NOTHING.
You can carry pretty much any NON-PROHIBITED weapons in your car and cannot get charged at all.... RESTRICTED Weapons (most hanguns) require a procedure for storage in your vehicle, a reason for transportation and a valid license for possessing the weapon such as the PAL (Possession and Acquisition's License) for restricted weapons.
With POL (Possession Only License) or a PAL ... I can have a M-16 (5 rounds capacity, semi-automatic) Rifle on the floor of my car... unloaded, but with a box of bullets next to the gun..... and I CANNOT get charged. The gun cannot be carried in my vehicle where its visible to the general public... otherwise it fine...
I need a M-16 for gopher hunting...
:angel:
speedyalero
05-31-2003, 12:25 PM
Originally posted by Yellow_Fly_Red
um... you should've got a lawyer and fought the ticket. It would probably be thrown out of court. Just that MOST people don't fight these kind of tickets and these cops get away with these kind harassment.
How was this harrassment? The cop made a simple request and he got attitude back. "Step out of the car" "No!" -- what do you expect him to do? Let the guy do his job, if you haven't done anything wrong there is no reason to automatically have a bad attitude towards a cop.
In court, he would even have to PROVE that their was actually a recent robbery with the suspect matching your exact descriptions... or else searching your car is an invasion of privacy (even if he finds lots of Cocaine or other weapons in your car), it will be thrown out of court and you will be charged with NOTHING.
Actually, no he doesn't have to prove anything once the person gave him a reason to be suspicious. He asked him to get out fo the car, he refused -- thats a red flag and probable cause for a search. Bad attitude breeds bad attitude.
You can carry pretty much any NON-PROHIBITED weapons in your car and cannot get charged at all.... RESTRICTED Weapons (most hanguns) require a procedure for storage in your vehicle, a reason for transportation and a valid license for possessing the weapon such as the PAL (Possession and Acquisition's License) for restricted weapons.
With POL (Possession Only License) or a PAL ... I can have a M-16 (5 rounds capacity, semi-automatic) Rifle on the floor of my car... unloaded, but with a box of bullets next to the gun..... and I CANNOT get charged. The gun cannot be carried in my vehicle where its visible to the general public... otherwise it fine...
I need a M-16 for gopher hunting...
:angel:
Are you a lawyer? Have you tested this theory? If you are riding around with a baseball bat between your door and seat -- they can and will charge you for having a concealed weapon if you are dumb enough to tell them thats what it is for. Same goes for batons same goes for mace/pepper spray and even a tire iron. But these in the trunk and its no longer an issue.
Why not put the M16 on the floor of your car and test this theory -- I am willing to bet you would be drug out of the car and cuffed.
Its has been a while since I owned any firearms but back when I did (easily 10 years ago in BC) you had to have a specific permit for each weapon and a specific carry permit to carry it from the range/hunting area etc...
The gun needs to be reasonably secured (on the floor of your car is not reasonably secured), unloaded, and you must travel directly from your home to the range and back. AFAIK there are even regulations about trigger locks during transport.
Stopping at the mall on the way home would get your weapons taken away. In the event you are pulled over you are also obligated to inform the officer that you have a weapon, present your permit and inform him were the gun is stored in the vehicle.
I am all for personal protection but in reality half of these kids would shit their pants before they used a bat or baton anyways so whats the point?
EvilNeon
05-31-2003, 12:31 PM
The easiest weapon to get away with is a steering wheel club. They are study, a good swinging size, and there is little to no question as to why you have it easily accessable.
They do cost a bit, but so does the golf club you will do doubt break when you fuse it to somebody's skull.
Superesc
05-31-2003, 12:51 PM
I would say, carry one of those Big Ass SureFire Flashlights! You can blind ppl while wacking them in the head..... I mean they help you fix your car when it breaks down at nite :D
Redlyne_mr2
05-31-2003, 12:57 PM
The problem with items such as "the club", flashlight, a golf club etc is that they arent very threatening and that the llikely hood of actually having to use it is far greater than if you pull a machete or even a baton. You pull a machete and most people will run, you pull out "the club" and you may have a fight on your hands, I think the baseball bat is the most threatening while at the same time being less obvious to the law
Superesc
05-31-2003, 01:02 PM
how about airsoft guns?? :rofl: MP5K with the newer high current battery and high cap magazine (150shots?)... ok bad idea :D ... never carry any firearm toys/replica in public unless you want a swat team at your house :D
Redlyne_mr2
05-31-2003, 01:10 PM
Originally posted by Superesc
how about airsoft guns?? :rofl: MP5K with the newer high current battery and high cap magazine (150shots?)... ok bad idea :D ... never carry any firearm toys/replica in public unless you want a swat team at your house :D
Thanks for the idea Calvin...:thumbsdow do you want me to get arrested because I promise you Id spend all my time in jail planning your demise :guns: (j/k):D
speedyalero
05-31-2003, 02:03 PM
Originally posted by Redlyne_mr2
The problem with items such as "the club", flashlight, a golf club etc is that they arent very threatening and that the llikely hood of actually having to use it is far greater than if you pull a machete or even a baton. You pull a machete and most people will run, you pull out "the club" and you may have a fight on your hands, I think the baseball bat is the most threatening while at the same time being less obvious to the law
Good point. Although if things escalate to the point that you are pulling a weapon -- no matter what it is -- you may be angry enough to want the fight. :guns:
Hash_man
05-31-2003, 02:15 PM
As soon as I get insurance, I think I will be carrying a baseball bat, Although I wish my airsoft was legal in Canada and then that would be my weapon of choice.
And does anyone know where I could get more ammo for it?
It is .24 Caliber (6.0mm)
I checked Canadian Tire and no luck.
speedyalero
05-31-2003, 02:28 PM
Originally posted by Hash_man
As soon as I get insurance, I think I will be carrying a baseball bat, Although I wish my airsoft was legal in Canada and then that would be my weapon of choice.
And does anyone know where I could get more ammo for it?
It is .24 Caliber (6.0mm)
I checked Canadian Tire and no luck.
Its been a while but the Spy Shop used to carry ammo.
I am off to Japan Wednesday so I plan on picking a couple airsoft guns up and shipping them back home. PM me if you want me to pick up ammo but I am going to be there for 2 months so if you dont want to wait you are outta luck......
omar_allibhai
05-31-2003, 02:41 PM
whats the max size that you can have a blade that is illigal
cuz i got a nice one and it is about 8" and 4" handle
topohill
07-18-2003, 05:59 AM
My protection is a Doberman and a handy Walther PK 380. I don't care much if they look or not, it is my life. That is why I have a concealed weapons permit. Sometimes the .380 is exchanged for the Ruger S&W .40 auto.
You guys are all messed. If you have a weapon in the trunk, good luck getting it out while people work on you. Come on, seriously, you think you'll have time to get back to you car, pop the trunk, grab your weapon and use it??? Are you just trying to be hard core by carrying a weapon?? I don't care what neighborhood you live in Toronto you don't need a weapon, and if you do it's cause you're causing shit and making trouble.
Mace, and pepper spray are illegal in Canada, bear spray can be purchased at your local Canadian Tire.
Originally posted by K271
Mace, and pepper spray are illegal in Canada, bear spray can be purchased at your local Canadian Tire.
and its wayyyy more effective!
"The Goggles, they do NOTHING"
Originally posted by omar_allibhai
whats the max size that you can have a blade that is illigal
cuz i got a nice one and it is about 8" and 4" handle
4" max balde size (AFAIK). Basically nothing larger than a pocket knife.
-"You call that a knife...THIS is a knife!"
-"Thats a spoon!"
-"Well I see you've played 'knifey-spooney' before!"
Khyron
07-18-2003, 10:56 AM
Carry a rolling pin. :rofl:
Seriously tho, be careful with any weapon - be it a bat, golf club etc. You pull a bat out of the car, you just escalated the fight to allow deadly force which means you just might get your throat smashed.
You're in a car - drive away. (Unless your car broke down in da hood, in which case keeping a bat/tire iron in the trunk makes sense).
Khyron
i've got 2 rocket launchers in my trunk, they're hooked up to my stereo and swing around to the beat of 50 cent
Originally posted by Khyron
Seriously tho, be careful with any weapon - be it a bat, golf club etc. You pull a bat out of the car, you just escalated the fight to allow deadly force which means you just might get your throat smashed.
You're in a car - drive away. (Unless your car broke down in da hood, in which case keeping a bat/tire iron in the trunk makes sense).
Khyron
And you go from a possible public mischief charge to assult with a weapon, a whole new can of worms. Not sure why you'd need to carry any of this shit though, are you people really that worried about getting into a situation where you'll need a bad or machete?:dunno:
sexualbanana
07-18-2003, 11:58 AM
Originally posted by Redlyne_mr2
Thanks for the idea Calvin...:thumbsdow do you want me to get arrested because I promise you Id spend all my time in jail planning your demise :guns: (j/k):D
You hear that Calvin?? He'll be thinking of you when he's with Big Dick Bubba! j/k :D
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