who can tune? turbo honda

[r7]

who? where?

honda, bseries motor, turbo, hondata

where? who? $? when?

[rage2]

stop asking and come down. I've told you 1000x already.

[atomic]

if u have a turbo application i suggest visiting diablo performance in red deer . cam can set u up with a greddy e-manage with the modular boost controller ..

it's an amazing device . we're using it in an 200sx with a sr20det swap ..

[GTS Jeff]

the speedtech guys have a good rep with honda tuning.

[Paul]

try Cory at Renewed Import

www.renewedimport.com

[rage2]

hehe finally got his car tuned. Yet another AMG killer :thumbsdow

[ls/vtec-crx]

We can definately do it for you. We have a Lambda meter which we use to help better our tuning by telling us if your car is too rich or lean. This would be best cause we will tune your driveabilty maps to save fuel for daily driving, and then have your full throttle map at the most optimal air/fuel ratio. Then we would tune your car on the dyno for full throttle ignition maps to see if we are losing or making power.

[redec]

dyno sheet?

[Toma]

Fackin Hondas..... before you know it everyone with a Honda will be turbod and running 13's :banghead:

Nice numbers....

[teamdsr]

anyone in calgary can tune motec?

[Toma]

Motec? the dos software version?

[rage2]

Originally posted by redec
dyno sheet?
b16a, fmax manifold, not sure what turbo, hondata s200, cams, cam gears.

220whp@7700rpm on a mustang dyno. I spent a little over an hour on it from a very rich base map. Got most of part throttle fixed, and running about 6.5psi on the map on 92 octane with zero detonation, A/F set to 12.3 AFR. Torque is still climbing at 7700rpm, car's going to run 8500rpm on the track, guessing it'll make somewhere in the 250whp range. EGT's never rose past 1350. Timing's nice and safe in the low 20's at full boost.

Short shifting at 7000rpm, the car pulled a carlength on me in 2nd/3rd gear easily onto deerfoot. Nice to weigh only 2100lbs.

I need to buy a Honda :).

[r7]

let me clairify a bit

1990 b16a, y1 tranny
toda flywheel, act clutch
stock cams, toda gears
skunk2 im, maxrev manifold
maxrev intercooler
garret t3/to4e (.60, .48, 57 trim)
2.5 dp, 2.5 exhaust, magna flow oval muffler
75lb injectors, 255lph pump
hondata s200
in 88 crx

and it runs 100x better than before.. so much smoother

thanks to rage2, cory, and the dyno op!

[teamdsr]

motec m4

[CRXguy]

Originally posted by rseven
let me clairify a bit

1990 b16a, y1 tranny
toda flywheel, act clutch
stock cams, toda gears
skunk2 im, maxrev manifold
maxrev intercooler
garret t3/to4e (.60, .48, 57 trim)
2.5 dp, 2.5 exhaust, magna flow oval muffler
75lb injectors, 255lph pump
hondata s200
in 88 crx

and it runs 100x better than before.. so much smoother

thanks to rage2, cory, and the dyno op!

Very nice!!! :thumbsup:

If you get bored of the setup, I'll buy it off you. I wanna be an AMGkiller too. :rofl:

[r7]

pm me a offer!

welp, i'm a little slower than a yamaha r6 (rolling start, 2nd gear 4K rpm) with full exaust, aftermarket sprocket, aftermarket chain, and a good rider. =o (my friend races @ stratotec, race city)


nothing 2psi and some more tuning won't fix.. =o

edit, i'm going to change my license plate to AMGKLLR

[Voodoo Child]

Why not "AMG KILR" dumbass....hehe

[rage2]

we found out this weekend that rseven needs to improve his driving skillz before he can qualify as an AMG killer :rofl:

[Isonex]

Is your Honda Crx...the blue one with the large gaping whole in the front with some over sized rad???:D

[legendboy]

Originally posted by rage2
we found out this weekend that rseven needs to improve his driving skillz before he can qualify as an AMG killer :rofl:

haha if we only had automatic and traction control ! haha :D

[rage2]

Originally posted by Isonex
Is your Honda Crx...the blue one with the large gaping whole in the front with some over sized rad???:D
It's an intercooler, not a rad :).

Here's rseven's pimp CRX. Check out the thinbody front fender! (dent) haha.

[r7]

what a h0m0, taking pictures of my car.. bah

anyhow, i swear i can get a 2.2 60 ft now. =P best i did was a 2.39.. best rage2 did was a 2.29, and yes it was his first time driving the car.. .

[buh_buh]

If his fatass can get a 2.2, you can get a 2.0 :rofl:

[ApexDrift]

so how much did everything cost?

[rage2]

Originally posted by buh_buh
If his fatass can get a 2.2, you can get a 2.0 :rofl:
rseven aint' skinny, he weight just as much as me!

[r7]

2.0 would be hard.. .

anyhow, i've been looking at internals.. .

sleeves , i duno which yet?
pistons, je 9.5:1
rods, crower

if i bother building the motor it's getting a 1.8L block.. .


15psi daily driven? =o would be fun. traction? ugg

[kenny]

Originally posted by rage2
we found out this weekend that rseven needs to improve his driving skillz before he can qualify as an AMG killer :rofl:

We found out this weekend he still needs to shave 0.6s off his time bwhaha :P gettin' close though. Time to do some weight reduction on the AMG to ensure all these crazy fast hondas stay in the rearview mirror.
:burnout:

[boi-alien]

nice car, nice times!

[r7]

thx, i think i'm going to shave 200 lbs off my car aswell. =o

[syeve]

Brad at speedtech is the best Hondata tuner in my opinion. He has tuned dozens of cars...and tuned his own prelude a hair short of 500WHP on a mustang dyno.

[legendboy]

Originally posted by syeve
Brad at speedtech is the best Hondata tuner in my opinion. He has tuned dozens of cars...and tuned his own prelude a hair short of 500WHP on a mustang dyno.

no offence to brad but hondata is easy to tune with a little practice. Rage2 and I have tuned a bunch of cars this summer and there all making good reliable power.

[r7]

btw, made 243whp and 178wtq on a dynojet tonight.. same tune


vtec engagement dip is a bit drastic @ 4800rpm, think i'm going to raise it.. or do it properly.. run with wastegate open with vtec set @ 10K rpm, record data, run with wastegate open with vtec set @ 2K rpm, record data.. set vtec engagement by that.. . what do you think legendboy?

shouldn't be too hard to do.. . plus where do i get a chip burner?

[boi-alien]

http://www.batronix.com/ for the buner

[rage2]

If I remember the dyno chart correctly, we started losing TQ at 4800rpm. At the 5000rpm, vtec switchover, torque jumped back up huge (thus you feel a kick in the pants at 5000rpm due to change in torque). I lowered to 4800rpm on the latest chip so your torque curve is flatter. You do, however, lose that kick in the pants feel because there is no change in torque, but you're faster since there's no more torque drop.

If you want a better kick in the pants, set the VTEC engagement to 6000rpm, you'll be slow as ass between 5000 and 6000, but that switchover would be like hitting the NAAAAAAAAWS button :rofl:.

BTW - don't do the vtec switchover high and low to find the vtec point. We never touched the high rpm boost fuel curves on the low map or the low rpm boost fuel curves on the high map because we didn't have enough time. Those 2 areas are way off, and u might run super rich or lean....

[r7]

ok.. will do.. i like it to be as fast as possible.. so 5000 will be good. =o

[rage2]

Originally posted by rseven
ok.. will do.. i like it to be as fast as possible.. so 5000 will be good. =o
You missed my point... 4800rpm is the best point... there's no drop in TQ. It feels slower because it lacks a kick, but it's faster because there's no drop in torque between 4800rpm and 5000rpm.

[max_boost]

Originally posted by kenny


We found out this weekend he still needs to shave 0.6s off his time bwhaha :P gettin' close though. Time to do some weight reduction on the AMG to ensure all these crazy fast hondas stay in the rearview mirror.
:burnout: I think you should just get rid of the SLK and upgrade!!! Pick up one of those mid 12 cars from MB! haha

[joejoe3]

yea i have thoughts abt boosting my RSX w/ the CN2 kit. I believe the internals come w/ the kit as well

[XES]

Originally posted by legendboy
no offence to brad but hondata is easy to tune with a little practice. Rage2 and I have tuned a bunch of cars this summer and there all making good reliable power.

...it's easier now than it was when I was doing R&D with Hondata and Nelson close to 4 years ago...
The S200 has all the features u see today 'cause suggestions were made to the right people when the program was being updated (ie. using a VTEC computer on a non-VTEC car, etc.). And try perfecting a map with a hand-held and open road... oh wait, thats what I had to do recently while tuning a Power-FC equipped Type-R.
My mom could tune a "reliable" car using datalogging and a lambda meter, it doesn't mean that she could extract max power and max driveability in the least amount of time. For those with hours and hours of free time and access to tuning equipment, yes, you could do it...and eventually make respectable power. It just get much easier and much faster (therefore cheaper), if you have experience, or know someone with it.
If you can tune one well, you can tune them all :poosie:

[r7]

XES, what do you think of the numbers my setup made?

220whp, 162wtq on a mustang
243whp, 178wtq on a dynojet

same tune, @ 7psi

[legendboy]

Originally posted by XES



If you can tune one well, you can tune them all :poosie:

:werd:

[legendboy]

Originally posted by XES


I was doing R&D with Hondata and Nelson close to 4 years ago...


We've also re-tuned some of nelsons cars also. My roomate blew his engine after nelson tuned it. Turns out that he was running mid 13's a/f in boost after vtec. And on another one we made 30whp. That was after nelson made something crazy like 40 passes with the car at tomas dyno....

[egmike]

We need to tune My EG still :thumbsup:

[XES]

Originally posted by legendboy
We've also re-tuned some of nelsons cars also. My roomate blew his engine after nelson tuned it. Turns out that he was running mid 13's a/f in boost after vtec. And on another one we made 30whp. That was after nelson made something crazy like 40 passes with the car at tomas dyno....

Even though I can not verify any of those stories, in Kelowna he managed to teach me alot regarding tuning (especially on the ignition timing side of things) - or at least he told me which books to read, etc.

Every turbo car I tune will have A/F ratio's around 12.2. If not, I don't hand it back to the customer. Timing is backed off a few (from max power) to ensure lower cylinder head pressures, and 95% of the time fuel is also added (after dynoing, but before it hits the streets) due to the fact that load on a dyno is not identical to load on the street.
Plus every customer which I work with on the dyno leaves with dyno plot in hand...complete with A/F, etc. If I only street tune it, simply ask to look at your final datalogged runs...they will also show the A/F of your car.

You won't see any vehicle with half-assed part-throttle maps, or incomplete high & low cam maps. I tune cars to about 90% or higher on the street (pre-dyno). Usually all that is left to fix on the dyno is some ignition timing...:poosie:

[max_boost]

So you speedtech guys can install me a problem free Comptech supercharger? And if I have problems I can go to you guys? If so, I'll call you up before xmas

[r7]

no reply!

[4G63Power]

If your looking for a quick reply PM or call the Speedtech guys

[Barlow]

lol theres a thought